Celine Dion Versus Mariah Carey – Round 4

This post is for a fourth round of comments continuing the discussion sparked by the Monarc_2002 editorial viewable here. The debate continued with part 2 and part 3, asking whether or has had the more successful career.


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349 thoughts on “Celine Dion Versus Mariah Carey – Round 4

  1. TRISH says:

    Celine is just a performer.Mariah is a real diva ! She has so many skills and achievements over Celine.The voice is the greatest female artist of all time ! Don’t forget it !

  2. MOFF says:

    Trish, why do you insult Celine?

  3. The Reason says:

    @ TRISH

    Ok girl. That’s it. I don’t know what the hell you are thinking before
    you post a comment here (I don’t even know IF you are thinking to be
    honest) but you have to stop someday. Not only you have been here
    for like 2 years, but you can’t even make some progress or find valid
    arguments.

    So Tony Bennet chose Mariah to do a duet ? Why would ANY Celine
    fan care about this since Celine had already recorded a duet with him
    on his first album featuring duets ? (They did the song ”If I ruled the world”). I see you also boast about Mariah doing a duet with Justin Bieber. I would really like to know why should anyone be proud about this mess. Justin is a voiceless parasite. The new version is awful because of Justin who ruined the song. The worst way for Mariah to destroy her classic. But this last part is just MY OPINION so it doesn’t matter. What matters is the FACT that NOBODY should be proud and boast about Mariah doing a duet with untalented nobodies like Justin Bieber who apparently stated in a interview that he wants to work with Celine now. I honestly say that I wanted to vomit when I read about it.

    Celine never needed duets to boost her popularity and you know this very well. Her powerhouse vocals were enough to built a good reputation and a legend around her name. Celine has been awarded for her vocals since the 80s, everyone knows this. It is not an opinion. It is a fact. I don’t know why you think Celine boosted her voice by doing duets. This doesn’t even make sense. Could I boost my voice by dueting with Barbra Streisand ? No, I would be embarrassed to sing next to this vocal giant. It is obvious Celine had the skills to become who she is. Duets did nothing. It’s like you say that Justin Bieber will be credited as a good singer just because he sang next to a vocal beast like Mariah Carey. As of Celine’s duets… these are not even her best selling and most popular songs, so I don’t know why you’re talking about.

    Anyway, Mariah’s duets have no effect on Celiniacs since Celine sang next to Andrea Bocelli this year. Just a bonus to classic duets with REAL voices such as Peabo Bryson, Barbra Streiasand, Lucciano Pavarotti, Garou, Il Divo and so on. Either way duets are not significant. I am just replying to what you proudly posted about Mariah’s duet with Bieber which is rather ridiculous and embarrassing.

    Let me also get a few things straight : Celine Dion is a vocalist and a performer. Mariah is a vocalist and a musician. Let’s not confound their respective skills cause we look rather irrational. The fact that Celine composed like 10 songs won’t make her a musician, same way the 170 concerts Mariah gave (with no stage demands whatsoever) don’t make her a performer. If you prefer Mariah on stage then good. It is your opinion and it is very respected. Just don’t try to pass it as a fact.

    ”Mariah rules on Billboard next to legends as Beatles and Elvis Presley.Where is Celine ?”

    Celine is currently the most profitable touring artist since Elvis and has
    already beaten The Beatles in terms of touring. So if Mariah stands next to them in terms of Us singles, Celine stands next to them in terms of Us ticket sales. Can’t you see both women are huge ? If you see only Mariah’s achievements, then you are unfair and biased.

    Moving on to your biased and unsupported comments, you have to know that Celine’s version of O Holy Night was voted as the 3rd favevorite Christmas song of all time in a 2004 poll. Her version has more views
    on you tube than any other cover. Anyway, this doesn’t mean much, I’m just showing how you really have no substance while posting your so called facts.

    As of album and singles sales, I’m sorry but people can be manipulated and ”brainwashed” to get singles at a cheap price. It is all about releasing the single physically while the airply on radios reaches its peak. However, NOTHING can manipulate people to buy an expensive ticket to attend a concert. Besides, how come a Mariah fan complain about manipulated album sales when Mariah’s Us sales are overshipped ? In facts (Billboard and Nielsen Soundscan and RIAA) Mariah’s actual Us sales stand at 53m by 2010. However we all know her RIAA certifications stand at 65m. So yes, you shouldn’t talk AT ALL about manipulated album sales.

    I have no comment to make on the insults against Celine. This proves how mad and pressed you are by her legendary status, popularity and good image. Same thing is proved by anyone who can see your shameless you tube activity of trolling Celine videos and posting partialities about her and attacking Celine fans. You say that you do this because Celine fans also attack Mariah. This is a BIG LIE. If this was real, then you should also attack Whitney, Aretha, Aguilera, Beyonce and Leona Lewis fans who constantly attack Mariah and her skills. Especially the Aguilera fans have been AWFUL towards Mariah. Just search on you tube for the videos uploaded by these Christina stans : XTINADISCIPLINE, Kayino and FAILriah OBESEarey.

    However, as EVERYONE can see you keep on attacking Madonna and Celine. Makes me wonder why you insist so much. Hmm… Why ?

    Answer : Because they outsold Mariah. This is what makes you pressed and not their respective fan bases comments on Mimi. But you are not brave enough to admit it. You prefer hiding behind your PC and posting lies.

    With all these being told Mariah is NOT more successful than Celine. Celine has sold more, is awarded more times around the world and even LAMBS have told you so. I have seen LAMBS on you tube replying to you that Celine has sold more records. Same way LAMBS put Mariah below Celine in her respective fan sites. Same way the industry awards Celine more. Same way the media gave Celine the title the recent years (after 2004…).

    Like people around you would advice you, all this IS NOT IMPORTANT.
    Same way a lamb told you that Celine sold more but that IT WAS NOT THAT IMPORTANT. You should really get over this. I mean seriously !
    You have to accept it and move on. Same way I accepted that Mariah
    has been the better vocalist compared to Celine and that Madonna beats Celine in sales BY FAR. It’s not THAT important.

    If you love an artist you should love them with their own flaws and mistakes. Trying to persuade everyone how your fave is perfect is rather delusional and pointless.

    THINK before you reply ! I’m not sure I’m gonna be back.

    Happy Christmas to everyone either wat ! Bye ! <3

  4. TRISH says:

    @Moff :Why do Celine fans insults Mariah ?

  5. TRISH says:

    @ THE REASON
    Someday you have stop to stay in my way when I take Mariah’s haters at their place.If you think that you can prevent me to clear Mariah’s achievements next to these delusional ignorants that try to reduce her as a porn star that is just able to make them get an erection,you make a big mistake.

  6. TRISH says:

    You hate me just because I gave reply to Celiniacs that doesn’t hide how much they hate Mariah.Celine’s fans said that nobody want to sing with Mariah,I just cited 2 among Mariah’s recent collaborations.What is bad in this? Who had deny that Celine had many collaborations?
    Why do you want that I accept anything claiming by Celine fans Lucky Luke?Because like them you love Celine ? Let me remind you that I am a Mariah fan,so don’t reprimand me and my posts anymore.

  7. TRISH says:

    You never say anything about mad comments of Celine fans,but you never hesitate to be after me for anything I claim.
    I didn’t confound their respective skills,just cited Mariah’s skills over Celine as Celine’s fans cited Celine success in Las Vegas over Mariah.
    If you and Celine’s fans prefer Celine on stage,good for you,but don’t try to say is so special as vocalist.

  8. TRISH says:

    Anyway,Celine success at Las Vegas have no effects on Lambs since Mariah has so many other achievements over Celine.
    Yes,Celine can be the most “profitable ” touring artist after Elvis,but Mariah is the most successful artist ever in Billboard.

  9. TRISH says:

    Who said that they can manipulate Ticket concerts? Why do you keep talking about Las Vegas,Touring,Ticket price etc? This is obviously for supporting Celine that is so successful on this unlike Mariah.So,what do you find as bad when I talk about Mariah skills,musicianship,influence,vocal capabilities and legacy over Celine?

  10. TRISH says:

    I keep say Mariah Carey has more success than Celine in singles in sales and airplay Charts.No question about it.
    You prove how much you are a liar when you say that I attack Celine fans.You know damn well that it’s rather the opposite.They can’t stop to call Mariah porn star,she can’t sing anymore,etc… So, I have to reply to them no matter what you think or say

  11. TRISH says:

    However, as EVERYONE can see you keep attacking me when I clear facts about these women and prove that Mariah is better. Makes me wonder why you insist so much. Hmm… Why ?

    Answer : Because Mariah outsold both Celine and Madonna and is much more talented. This is what makes you always try to prove me wrong and ally you with Madonna’s fans.But you are not objective and fair enough to admit Mariah is better than them. You prefer hiding behind your PC,posting lies and fake arguments.

  12. TRISH says:

    All the facts show Mariah Carey is more successful than Celine Dion. Mariah has sold more, has more significant awards,more talent and skills,more accomplishments, more impact around the world and even CELINIACS have told you so.You have seen CELINIACS distinguished in LAMBS on you tube replying to me that Celine has sold more records.Every real lambs know that Mimi has sold more albums and much more singles than Celine.There are so many fake lambs ! Same way the industry awards Celine more if you count her 1980’s Awards when she was a local artist.But The Voice has more important awards.Sorry,but Mariah has sold more than Celine and has much more achievements. Mimi is more successful.

  13. TRISH says:

    Besides, how come a Celine fan talk about manipulated album sales when Celine’s Us sales are overshipped as well as her European ones ? Billboard doesn’t count albums sales and RIAA is more reliable in sales question than Nielsen Soundscan.Otherwise,what say Billboard and Nielsen Soundscan about Celine’s sales in US ? They would stand at 25 – 30 million in US if Mariah’s would stand at just 53.Why every institutions want suddenly to take Mariah’s achievements down ? Does RIAA became partial just in the case of Mariah ? Who could dare deny that Mariah sold much more than Celine in US ? This not nowadays that some institutions could soil her achievements.What could we say about Celine in Europe that even doesn’t any institution that count albums sales ? Celine is the queen of overshipped albums.Even her achievements are overrated.

  14. TRISH says:

    Lucky Luke,if you want to prove Celine is more successful than Mariah just face her achievements to Mariah’s, step by step.You keep say she sold more albums than Mariah just because she has more certifications,but I remind you that Mariah’s global certifications worth more sales than Celine’s.Even Wikipedia recognize it.

  15. TRISH says:

    Celine beats Mariah just and only in concerts and tours.But Mariah beats Celine in records sales,influence,legacy,voice,hits,musicianship and skills.So how Celine could ever be more successfull than Mariah ?

  16. The Reason says:

    You’re wrong. I said a few things on your replies to the Celine fans because
    a good portion of their comments is subjective and up to opinion. Therefore their comments are ignored. However, I don’t know if these people bash Mariah the past 2 years. I know FOR SURE that you are dissing Celine for that period so it is very normal and expected for me to take action against you. Comments like ”Celine did duets in order to boost her voice” are so random and I find them annoying.

    Anyway if you REALLY read my posts you see I put these Celine fans
    into place once I said that Mariah has been the better vocalist + that she is a real musician. These comments DESTROY all the biased attacks against Mimi. Plus, I have said MANY times I find her very pretty and sexy.

    I might find Celine to be overall better (IN MY OPINION) but this doesn’t mean I’m gonna insult Mariah just to make a point and elevate Celine.

    Finally, as I have told you Celine doesn’t need Mariah’s achievements
    and Mariah doesn’t need Celine’s achievements. You can find 20 stuff Mariah achieved over Celine and I can find another 20 things Celine achieved over Mariah. This could never end cause these two ladies along with Whitney are always pretty much a tie.

    PS : As of their comments on Mariah’s voice, I had already said that her 2010 album is a masterpiece. Really conhesive and impressive vocally.
    I listen to it every night. xD

  17. The Reason says:

    Ok girl. REALLY READ FOR ONCE.

    ”You prove how much you are a liar when you say that I attack Celine fans.”
    —> No you have admitted to attack Celine fans who don’t like Mariah. Plus this is obvious from your you tube activity. And you don’t have the guts
    to admit WHY you ONLY attack Madonna and Celine fans and not fans
    from other artists who dislike Mariah even more. So yes, you keep
    debating against Celine and Madonna because you know they are
    considered to be more successful. Simple as that. Don’t try to turn this
    around. These games have no effect on me. I don’t attack you because
    Mariah outsold Celine (cause she hasn’t). I attack you because you
    bash Celine the past years non-stop. I don’t ally with Madonna fans.
    You are so simple minded to understand that I would put ANY Celine fan
    into place that would say Celine sold more than Madonna, because a statement like this IS false.

    ”But you are not objective and fair enough to admit Mariah is better than them.”

    I have already CLEARLY REPEATED MANY TIMES the fields where MC
    is superior so I don’t know what you’re talking about. If you are unable to read, then don’t attack my posts.

    ”All the facts show Mariah Carey is more successful than Celine Dion. ”

    No. All the facts show you are IN DENIAL. There are no facts to prove
    Mariah sold more than Celine. Celine got the most recent awards for her career sales, Celine is known by the media to have sold more, Celine is more stable.

    And NO. LAMBS have told you that Mariah sold more. Celine fans disguised as lambs ? What a PATHETIC thing to say. Do you have
    the guts to post a comment like that on Mariah Journal ? That these
    people are fake Mariah fans ? Do you dare to do this ? I challenge you !
    And then please post similar comments to their respective labels. I would
    like to see what Island Def Jam people would think about you.

    ”Besides, how come a Celine fan talk about manipulated album sales when Celine’s Us sales are overshipped as well as her European ones ? ”

    Aren’t you TIRED of LYING ? You don’t even have proof for all that
    while I have SOLID PROOF for what I claimed. This is what I call FACT.
    Not stuff I make up. I could drop to your level now and say that Mariah’s
    Japanese sales are overshipped just to piss you off but I won’t cause I’m
    sick and tired of your unsupported word games. In facts RIAA (you called it more reliable) has actually separated Mariah’s certified sales from her actual sales so attacking Billboard and Nielsen Soundscan is POINTLESS. Mariah’s overshipped albums are also evident by RIAA data. So yes, PLEASE don’t talk again about manipulated album sales. I don’t know why Mariah’s Us sales are overshipped. I really don’t. Celine’s ”The Colour Of My Love” has sold 4.7m there and is 6xP so some overshipment applies to Celine’s sales as well.

    Oh yes, and sales in Europe are counted by IFPI (In general) and by
    local institutions as well. I don’t know what you’re talking about again.

    I seriously ignore your last reply.

  18. The Reason says:

    I just needed to get this out of my system. Like I said Celine doesn’t need Mariah’s awards and Mariah doesn’t need Celine’s.

    LIST OF CELINE DION AWARDS SINCE 1990…

    1990

    Billet Platine
    Billet Platine for the Concert Céline Dion
    Félix Awards
    Best Angolphone Artist (award refused)

    1991
    Juno Awards
    Album of the Year – Unison
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Félix Awards
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French

    1992
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Female Recording Artist of the Year
    Juno Awards
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Félix Awards
    Best Selling Album of the Year – Dion chante Plamondon
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French
    MuchMusic Video Awards
    Best Adult Contemporary Video – “Je danse dans ma tête”
    Governor General’s Awards
    Honoured with a Medal of Recognition on Canada’s 125th Birthday from the Governor General for Her Contribution to Canadian Culture.

    1993
    Grammy Awards
    Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal – “Beauty and the Beast” (with Peabo Bryson)
    Best Song Written for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media (to Alan Menken and Howard Ashman) – “Beauty and the Beast”
    Billboard Awards
    Billboard International Creative Achievement Award
    Juno Awards
    Best Selling Francophone Album – Dion chante Plamondon
    Single of the Year – “Beauty and the Beast”
    Best Dance Recording – “Love Can Move Mountains” (club mix)
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Félix Awards
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province of Quebec

    1994
    Grammy Awards
    Best Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocal(s) (to David Foster and Jeremy Lubbock) – “When I Fall in Love”
    Juno Awards
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Félix Awards
    Female Artist of the Year
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province Of Quebec

    1995
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Female Recording Artist of the Year
    Ivor Novello Awards
    Song of the Year – “Think Twice”
    Juno Awards
    Album of the Year – The Colour of My Love
    Best Selling Album (Foreign or Domestic) – The Colour of My Love
    Félix Awards
    Pop/Rock Album of the Year – D’eux
    Most Popular Song of the Year – “Pour que tu m’aimes encore”
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province of Quebec

    1996
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Recording Artist of the Year
    MIDEM Awards
    Award for Combined European Sales of Over 10 Million Units in 1995
    Award for Sales of Over 4 Million Units Worldwide for the Album D’eux
    Juno Awards
    Best Selling Album of the Year – D’eux
    Best Selling Francophone Album of the Year – D’eux
    Félix Awards
    Best Selling Album of the Year – D’eux
    Female Artist of the Year
    Performance of the Year
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in Any Language Other Than French
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province of Quebec
    BAMBI Awards
    Top International Pop Star of the Year
    VH1 Awards
    Artist of the Year
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Song of the Year – “To Love You More”
    IRMA Awards
    Best International Female Artist Album – The Colour of My Love
    Malta Music Awards
    Best Selling International Artist
    Victoires de la Musique
    Best Francophone Artist
    Best Song of the Year – “Pour que tu m’aimes encore”
    Trophée Radio France Internationale
    Conseil Francophone de la Chanson – “Pour que tu m’aimes encore”
    Medal of Arts and Letters
    From France’s Minister of Culture Recognizing Céline Dion’s Status as the Best Selling French-language Artist in History

    1997
    Grammy Awards
    Album of the Year – Falling into You
    Best Pop Vocal Album – Falling into You
    Best Song Written for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media (to Diane Warren) – “Because You Loved Me”
    World Music Awards
    World’s Overall Best Selling Recording Artist of the Year
    World’s Best Selling Pop Artist of the Year
    World’s Best Selling Canadian
    Juno Awards
    Best Selling Album (Foreign or Domestic) – Falling into You
    Best Selling Francophone Album – Live à Paris
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    International Achievement Award
    Félix Awards
    Album of the Year (Pop Rock) – Live à Paris
    Album of the Year (Best Seller) – Live à Paris
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Most Successful Québécois Artist in a Language Other Than French
    Most Successful Québécois Artist Outside Quebec
    NARM Awards
    1996/1997 Best Seller Award for Recording of the Year – Falling into You
    1996/1997 Best Seller Award for Pop Recording – Falling into You
    1996/1997 Best Seller Award for Artist of the Year
    IRMA Awards
    Best International Female Artist Album – Falling into You
    Malta Music Awards
    Best Selling Female International Artist
    International Achievement in Arts Awards
    Entertainer of the Year for Distinguished Achievement in Music
    Pop Corn Music Awards
    Best Album of the Year – Falling into You
    Best Female Singer of the Year
    Coca-Cola Full Blast Music Awards
    Most Popular International Artist of 1996
    FM Select Diamond Awards
    Top Female International Artist
    AMIGO Awards
    Best International Female Artist
    National TV2 Awards
    Best International Female Artist

    1998
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Recording Artist of the Year
    American Music Awards
    Favourite Pop/Rock Female Artist
    Billboard Music Awards
    Female Album of the Year – Let’s Talk About Love
    Soundtrack Single of the Year – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Album Artist of the Year
    Adult Contemporary Artist of the Year
    Album of the Year – Titanic
    Soundtrack Album of the Year – Titanic
    The Order of Canada
    Appointed Officer of the Order of Canada for Outstanding Contribution to the World of Contemporary Music
    National Order of Quebec
    Appointed Officer of the National Order of Quebec
    South African Music Awards
    Best Selling International Album – Falling into You
    VH1 Viewers Vote Awards
    Artist of the Year
    Best Female Artist
    Diva of the Year
    Japan Record Awards
    Special Achievement, International Artist – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Pop Album of the Year – Let’s Talk About Love
    International Artist of the Year
    MuchMusic Video Awards
    People’s Choice: Favourite Canadian Artist
    Performance Magazine Readers Poll Awards
    Best Pop Act
    BMI Pop Awards
    Song of the Year – “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now”
    Pop Corn Music Awards
    Best Female Singer of the Year
    Hungarian Record Industry Awards
    International Album of the Year – Let’s Talk About Love
    AMIGO Awards
    Best International Female Artist

    1999
    Grammy Awards
    Record of the Year – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Best Female Pop Vocal Performance – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Song of the Year (to James Horner and Will Jennings) – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Best Song Written for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media (to James Horner and Will Jennings) – “My Heart Will Go On”
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Female Pop Artist
    American Music Awards
    Favourite Female Pop/Rock Artist
    Favourite Adult Contemporary Artist
    Favorite Soundtrack – Titanic
    Juno Awards
    Best Album – Let’s Talk About Love
    Best Selling Album (Foreign or Domestic) – Let’s Talk About Love
    Best Selling Francophone Album – S’il suffisait d’aimer
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    International Achievement Award
    Félix Awards
    Most Successful Québécois Artist in a Language Other Than French
    Walk of Fame
    Inducted into Canada’s Walk of Fame
    Canadian Broadcast Hall of Fame
    Inducted into the Canadian Broadcast Hall of Fame
    People’s Choice Awards
    Favourite Female Music Performer
    BAMBI Awards
    For Sales of Over 10 Million CDs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland
    South African Music Awards
    Best Selling International Album – Let’s Talk About Love
    Blockbuster Entertainment Awards
    Favourite Song from a Movie – “My Heart Will Go On”
    ECHO Awards
    Most Successful International Female Artist
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Song of the Year – “My Heart Will Go On”
    International Pop Album of the Year – These Are Special Times
    International Artist of the Year
    Sony Music Awards
    For Over 120 Million Albums Sold
    Performance Magazine Awards
    To René Angélil for Personal Manager of the Year

    2000
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best-Selling Female Pop Artist
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Pop Album of the Year – All the Way… A Decade of Song
    International Artist of the Year

    2001

    American Music Awards
    Favorite Artist – Adult Contemporary

    2002
    Billboard Latin Music Awards
    Special Award for “My Heart Will Go On” as the First English-language Song to Top Billboard’s Hot Latin Tracks
    NRJ Music Awards
    Best French Duet – “Sous le vent” (with Garou)
    Victoires de la Musique
    Best Original Song of the Year – “Sous le vent”
    Félix Awards
    Most Successful Québécois Artist in a Language Other Than French
    Special Disc Awards
    In Recognition of 15 Million Album and Single Sales in the United Kingdom

    2003
    American Music Awards
    Favorite Artist – Adult Contemporary (January)
    Favorite Artist – Adult Contemporary (November)
    IFPI Awards
    In Honour of a Total of 50 Million Albums Sold in Europe
    To Commemorate the Sale 10 Million Copies of Let’s Talk About Love in Europe
    Dragon Awards
    Female Artist of the Year – International
    Arion Music Awards
    Best Sales, International Album for A New Day Has Come

    2004
    World Music Awards
    Diamond Award for World’s Best Selling Female Artist of All Time (175 Million Albums Sold)
    Hollywood Walk of Fame
    Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame
    Dragon Awards
    Female Artist of the Year – International
    FiFi Awards
    Fragrance of the Year – Women’s Popular Appeal for ‘Celine Dion Parfums’
    ELLA Awards
    For Contribution to Music and Humanitarian and Community Support
    Nevada Ballet Theatre Awards
    Woman of the Year for Significant Contribution to the Performing Arts

    2005
    24th Annual Las Vegas Review Journal’s “Best of Las Vegas” Awards
    Best Headliner in Las Vegas
    6th Annual Visitors’ Choice Awards
    Favorite Headliner in Las Vegas
    Etoiles Chérie FM
    Etoile Chérie FM d’honneur

    2006
    SOCAN Awards
    Best Composition – “Tout près du bonheur”
    25th Annual Las Vegas Review Journal’s “Best of Las Vegas” Awards
    Best Headliner in Las Vegas
    FiFi Awards
    Best Packaging – Women’s Popular Appeal for ‘Belong’
    7th Annual Visitors’ Choice Awards
    Favorite Headliner in Las Vegas
    MovieEntertainment Awards
    Entertainer of the Year in the category of Entertainment Industry’s Most Influential Canadian

    2007
    World Music Awards
    Legend Award
    Etoiles Chérie FM
    Etoile Chérie FM Award
    26th Annual Las Vegas Review Journal’s “Best of Las Vegas” Awards
    Best Singer
    Best All-Around Performer
    Best Show Choreography
    Nevada Commission on Tourism
    Entertainer of the New Millennium

    2008
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Recording Artist
    Félix Awards
    Special Honorary Award
    Honorary degree
    Honorary Doctorate in Music from the Université Laval
    Légion d’honneur
    Légion d’honneur
    NRJ Music Awards
    NRJ Music Award D’honneur
    Special Awards
    For being the only artist with 7 albums that sold more than 1 million copies in Canada
    Special Disc Awards
    In Recognition of 1 Million Album Sales in Poland
    Walk of Fame in Kraków, Poland
    Star on the Walk of Fame in Kraków, Poland

    2009
    Félix Awards
    DVD of the Year – Céline sur les Plaines

    Proven Fact : Celine has indeed won prestegious awards in EVERY MARKET about her sales, talent, influence, contribution and overall impact. I don’t even have to post her 80s awards to make a point. Saying Mariah’s awards are more significant is highly subjective and unsupported.

    Celine had the most recent WMA about her career sales and achievements. Celine has won the most important Grammy categories (Album of the year, Record of the year, Best Vocal album, Best Vocal perfomance and so on). Celine is honoured by the industry cause she’s asked to sing much more often in important ceremonies. Plus her songs have recieved more prestegious awards too : more Academy awards and more Golden Globes.

    Like I said I just had to get this out of my system cause I really hate generic theories. :)

  19. TRISH says:

    Dear Lucky,I don’t know why you’re still after me but I will always put any Celine fans who claim Celine sold more than Mariah because this is false and you know it damn well !
    There are no facts to prove Celine sold more than Mariah.Mariah’s global Certifications worth more million sales than Celine’s.Mariah got the most important awards.Celine got the most recent awards for her career sales,because she catch up Mariah’s level by late in 2000’s.Celine is known by the media to have sold more just because she has the support of Illuminati. In facts,she doesn’t ( I don’t want to talk about it here,but I have to explain why everything is against Mariah since she left Sony Label).

    Globally,Mariah Carey is more stable than Celine.Maybe Celine last compilations have sold a little bit more than Mariah’s,but that doesn’t mean she’s more stable than Mimi.Mariah is more stable in the case of single sales.Mariah had million selling single in 2009 (Obsessed) while Celine’s last million seller single is back to 1998 ( I’m Your Angel ).
    Mariah’s career is more stable globally,for example,Mariah won her first Grammy at age 20 and her last Grammy at age 36 while Celine won her first Grammy at age 24 and her last Grammy at age 30.Mariah made her first number 1 Hit in a major Chart at age 20 and her last at age 38 while Celine made her number 1 Hit in a major Chart at age 26 then her last at age 30.

  20. TRISH says:

    Mariah accomplish so much and broke many records even in the period her career is considered as lower ( 2000’s ).

    – 3 Grammy Awards winning
    -Most Extended voice ever ( Guinness World Records )
    -Widest vocal range ever ( Guinness World Records )
    -Greatest voice ever ( MTV Countdown, Blender Magazine,etc. )
    -Most Week at number 1 in Billboard Hot 1oo Chart for a female artist ( We Belong Together)
    -Most Weeks at number 1 in Brazilian Hot 100 Chart history ( I Want To Know What Love Is)
    -Billboard most played song ever ( We Belong Together)
    -Most popular song of the 2000’s ( We Belong Together)
    -The most popular Christmas song worldwide in 2000 decade ( All I Want For Christmas Is You )
    -Most successful female composer ever
    -Most successful female producer ever

  21. TRISH says:

    All these facts out of those back to 1990’s, are enough to prove that Mariah Carey has a more successful career than Celine Dion.

  22. TRISH says:

    By the way, Divas live/Gloria Macapagal Arroyo/Dave/Charice/Janice are the same person.Congrats Celiniac you show how much you’re sick.Educate yourself about music question ,silly ignorant !

  23. The Reason says:

    You don’t get it, do you ? May I ask you… Do you really read my posts ?
    I speak BASIC English and you don’t seem to follow me AT ALL. You keep asking questions about stuff I already made clear and moreover you often AVOID replying to my questions.

    I have already PERFECTLY explained why I am after you. It is because you have been dissing Celine the past 2 years. The fact that you support Mariah doesn’t mean you have to bash Celine. I clearly support Celine but I’m not bashing Mariah. Do you get it now ?

    I don’t know that Mariah sold more than Celine. I know the exact opposite like most people do so don’t put words in my mouth. You are the one to react to what LAMBS say and you call them names. You also LIED that many Celiniacs told me Mimi sold more than Celine. -.-‘ I don’t know what you’re trying to do with random stuff like this.

    Moving on, there are facts to prove Celine sold more than Mariah.

    – Label Announcements (Even Sony BMG early 00s announcements)

    – Recent Awards

    – Certifications

    – Media

    – Official Sites

    There is nothing you can hold on to in order to prove the opposite. Nothing. Just some random excuses and partial theories.

    For instance, I see you now resort to the Illuminati excuse. I’m sorry but I have to ask you. Aren’t you ashamed at all ? You are the same person who CLEARLY stated that Celine is not supported by that team a while ago. Why do you keep changing your statements everytime it seems convenient ? The Illuminati were mentioned here (in THIS debate) before and you said nothing. Then on the other debate you suddenly started accusing Celine of being an Illuminati member. Then you took it back. And now you support she’s supported again. Aren’t you TIRED of playing word games with me and contradicting ? Can’t you see your comments have NO SUBSTANCE ? Doesn’t this whole thing make you tired and upset ? Either way, you seriously don’t want me to start talking again about your Illuminati theories, so be truthful and don’t mention these embarrassing things to me ever again. Respect Celine, as I respect Mimi. You don’t talk to a hater now so show some respect.

    So you think Mariah is more stable than Celine ? This is SURREAL. Her overall sales pale in comparison to Celine’s this decade in most markets.
    Celine actually sold more albums in Us (17m) according to Billboard and RIAA this decade, she was second only to Britney. She was the #1 earning performer and then grossed $280m. She also sold millions of music DVDs. All The Way is 1xP in Us and her 2007 DVD is 7xP. The ONLY thing Mariah did better was scoring 7-8 hits which is not that impressive either (in terms of stability) given the fact 2/3 of her singles were unsuccessful even in Us. However YES, it’s clear MARIAH sold more singles this decade. Ok ? Good. Still, don’t forget Celine did well in Europe. She scored 8 top 10 hits while MC scored 3 so their singles sales difference is not as big as you imagine it. By the way, let me ask you one simple thing. How much has ”We Belong Together” (Mariah’s biggest 00s hit) sold worldwide and what certifications has it received ? I’m just curious to see your thoughts on that cause I hardly believe you don’t know what you’re talking about. Just to make it clear : Celine’s latest million selling single is That’s The Way It Is. It sold a little more than 1m copies. Sous le vent, I’m Alive and A New Day Has Come are very close with sales of over 900k.

    Here :

    celinedioncharts.com/bysingle.htm

    Umm… What does AGE has to do with Grammy and hits ? The way you think is so partial. They have 5 awards and Celine won the most prestigious categories : Record of the year, Album of the year, Best Vocal Performance and so on. Celine has been awarded since age 14, even in non francophone markets. You missed that. Same way you miss all the other honors in Celine’s career. Biased much ? Anyway her songs have received more prestigious awards too : more Academy awards and more Golden Globes awards AND nominations.

    None of the things you cited proves Mariah accomplished MORE in general. These are just some chart success and things you imagine. She is definitely more successful composer than Celine, since Celine doesn’t compose but ”most successful composer ever” ? Really ? Who lied to you ?
    You have been here for like 2 years and you still haven’t learned not to post lies ? Diane Warren has written ALONE more hits than Mariah and has been awarded more times as a songwriter/composer so don’t exaggerate. PLEASE !

    As of her 2000 accomplishments, I can do the same with Celine. Do you want me to do so ? :) I can make A BIG list of Celine 2000’s accomplishments/awards about her sales, contribution to music, shows and so on. Trust me, I CAN do it.

    I actually thought these people are the same person. I agree with you. But you shouldn’t call anyone sick given the fact you have a big history with nicknames as well. (Mandy, Carla, Meredith and so on)…

    Like I said before, calm down and really THINK before you reply.

  24. Divas Live. says:

    CELINE IS NOT A CLOWN TRISH…….She just want to have fun to other people…

    Madonna – is the queen of pop
    Whitney – is the queen of Divas
    Celine – is the original Diva & the queen of Love songs
    Beyonce – is the queen of RnB
    Britney – is the pop princess
    Mary J. – Queen of Pop/rock
    Mariah Carey – is a Flop in Concert, Flop in Album Sales ,Flop in Movies
    therefore Mariah Carey Is the queen of Flops……

    Here Album Mostly are high in budget but sold not really good,
    Here Movies very very high in budget but my goodness only few are went to watch including TRISH..hahahahah..
    Concert is very Poor ….. very very Flop…….unlike Celine Dion Concert & Movies are very successful even here DVD concert rank # 1 & 2 at billboard DVD category the only artist that two \dvd concert rank 1 & 2 at the same time……

    Mariah Carey’s Infected Angel very very high in budget only successful in US but Very very Flop Globally hahahahahahahaha……

    Celine Dion Taking Chances Very Low Budget only have few songs but Excels Mariah in sales……hahahaha what a shame……

  25. fujiko says:

    Here in Japan Celine Dion Is the Most Awaited Singer t o perform she’s the one and only. There will be no other Celine Dion she is one in a lifetime.

    But Mariah Carey no no there will be a lot of mariah carey in the future.
    Celine Dion with Taro on stage are very perfect to see.

  26. love sick says:

    I wonder why wonder why Trish still saying Mariah Still Better than Celine Dion While Mariah’s Voice so weak nowadays.

    Celine Dion ticket concert is already sold out before her own private plane land on the country.

    I really Love watching The DVD of Celine through the eyes of the world when Oprah also watching behind with that huge crowd then going to her dressing room ….really nice ..

    Celine Dion’s Music & voice will catch millions of hearth around the world & lambs will never feel it because they love Mariah Carey so much.

    They think Celine Dion Is the Biggest stone at Mariah Carey’s way.
    Celine Dion will be better & better honestly its really impossible Mariah can beat Celine Nowadays Mariah Carey lost her voice no power anymore.

  27. love sick says:

    Celine Dion Best earner of the decade long live Celine..

  28. love sick says:

    Mariah’s future in music industry are very dangerous she probably not active any longer. Celine Dion Best earner of the decade long live Celine..

  29. dave says:

    ohhhh im about to come now…ohhhh touch my ****

  30. The Reason says:

    @ Divas live, fujiko (LMAO) , love sick, dave

    Ok guy. I guess you have noticed I am a BIG Celine fan. No doubt about it. Just read my posts. However many things in your posts are invalid.

    You might dislike Mariah but how come she is a flop after selling 200m records by singing songs she created ? How come she’s unsuccessful when her singing and musicianship have inspired and influenced two generations of singers ?

    If there is one queen or RNB that would be Mariah. She has created and made popular many RNB songs since mid 90s when this genre was not that popular. The woman has mastered melismas and runs. She hits like 50 notes in a few seconds in ”Can’t take that away” and ”Lead the way” that were recorded OUT of her vocal prime (1990-1997). As of Beyonce … she PALES in comparison to Mariah on every aspect except for performing. Mariah is a superior singer, musician, producer, artist, seller. Same way Celine’s awards and sales in Japan PALE in comparison to Mariah’s. Celine has sold about 9m albums there while Mariah’s album sales stand at 18m. I just can’t at reading unsupported comments.

    Anyway, it is obvious you want to drop to TRISH’s level who keeps insulting. You can both play the game of unsupported/biased comments. I guess I should leave the two of you alone.

    Away with you.

  31. Gail says:

    Mariah is a better artist than celine and she has sold more records.

  32. The Reason says:

    @Gail/TRISH

    Don’t be silly. Posting the final comment won’t make what you say valid.

    Now the other Celine fan will reply by several nicknames. Haha xD

    What a mess ! What a childish immature behavior. A team of cowards.

    You’re all helpless. Away with all of you children.

  33. Divas Live. says:

    IM SORRY

    but what i mean is Mariah Carey’ present status not her past success…..
    She is a huge flop nowadays……..hahahahahaha…..

  34. Beyonce says:

    Nice one. keep it up..

  35. Whetney says:

    My sweetest friend Mariah Carey oh i think shes just an okay singer.. as what I’ve said darling you have no originality..

  36. Christina Aguilira says:

    Oh common Legend Mariah next time just invite me onto your party . & and i promise i will not do anything to put you on shame…and Ill pray for you too…

  37. Gail says:

    @ Divas Live/ Love Sick / The reason/etc.
    About posts,did you read mines ? I said that Mariah Carey sold more records than Celine and you know that very well ! But you’ll never admit it.
    I also proved that Mariah has a most successful career.This is you who avoid to answer my questions.You try reduce and turn everything about concerts and Las Vegas.
    I remind you that The Voice surpasses on singles Celine not only in 2000’s but also in 1990’s.

  38. Gail ( TRISH ) says:

    You accused me to be Gail. According to you ,I am behind every Mariah supporters.I posted under Gail nickname if that can pleasure you.Do you are satisfied now ?
    By the way,we are both to have 2 years in that blog.I am not the only one.I guess that we’ll stay for the rest of our life since I’ll never stop to post comments here till the administrator decide to close it.

  39. TRISH says:

    @ The Reason/ Divas Live/ Fujiko / Dave/ Gloria Arroyo/ Charice/etc..
    You don’t get it, do you ? May I ask you… Do you really read my posts ?
    I speak BASIC English and you don’t seem to follow me AT ALL. This you who avoid replying to my questions,not the opposite.Just make a list of Celine 2000’sachievements like I did for Mariah.
    I remind you that Mariah has sold more singles than Celine not only in 2000’s but also in 1990’s.Celine is not even close to Mariah in the case of singles sales.
    You are after me because you try to prove hopelessly that Celine has sold more than Mariah and have more success overall.This is the true reason.I didn’t diss Celine when I show what Mariah accomplish more than her.

    You know that Mariah sold more than Celine.You just claim the opposite.All Celiniacs know that Mariah outsold Celine,but they will never admit it because Celine doesn’t have impressive achievements out of her sales and her concerts.So,Celiniacs built their pride with the fantasy by which Celine could sold more than Mariah.Since Mariah already have so many other accomplishments over Celine,so Celine must wins in the case of sales and concerts.

  40. TRISH says:

    Blablabla… Don’t play the wiser and the know it all with me. You and I have both over two years in that blog.I never deny Celine’s achievements,I even said many times that she is very respectable and a good vocalist,but that doesn’t mean that I can’t say that Mariah has more success and sold more than her.

  41. TRISH says:

    Albums sales:
    – Celine wins in Europe
    – Mariah wins in US
    – Celine wins in Canada
    – Mariah wins in Japan
    -Latin America ( they are equals or a slight difference )
    -Africa (Celine wins )
    -Oceania (Mariah Wins )
    – Asia (Mariah wins).
    Singles Sales :
    – Mariah wins in US
    – They are equals in Europe or almost
    – Mariah wins in Oceania
    – Mariah wins in Asia
    -Mariah wins in Latin America
    So,the obvious answer is that Mariah has sold more records.

    Now,answer to this question:
    What are Celine’s million seller singles at 1990 decade ?

  42. TRISH says:

    “Anyway, it is obvious you want to drop to TRISH’s level who keeps insulting. ”
    You deserve a Oscar Lucky Luke,you are a good actor. Trish insult her opponents” This is the weapon you always try to use against me.Anyway,I have to say you that anyone could reach my level,otherwise they would discover when crafty people use tricks and feign to be objective just to make people swallow lies and fake arguments.

  43. The Reason says:

    @ Gail/TRISH

    You really think I am behind these nicknames ? Oh PLEASE ! You are not serious AT ALL. I actually replied to these biased comments by SUPPORTING MARIAH. What else do I have to do ? -.-‘ Go on and check
    my you tube account if you want to see the comments I post in favor of Mariah. If you want let me share my Msn with you so we talk on cams to show you my collection of Mariah’s albums. I have nothing more to say.

    You proved nothing in terms of success. You just babble the same stuff with no proof ?r substance. We have media, awards, biographies, announcements. What do you have ? Oh right, your denial. Celine has sold more albums in Oceania by the way. I had brought certifications.

    See for yourself :

    mariahjournal.com/infozone/charts/albums/australia/index.shtml

    —> 2.5m Albums sales in Australia
    mariahjournal.com/infozone/charts/albums/newzealand/index.shtml

    —> 400k Album sales in N.Zeland

    …and then Celine…

    celinedioncharts.com/bycountry.htm

    2.9m albums in Australia and 700k in N.Zeland.

    You are here since EARLY 2010 and while I have been away for A LONG period you are STILL HERE arguing with Moff and everyone else. So don’t compare us. Plus I show actual RESPECT to Mariah. Can’t say the same about you. Aren’t you the person who said she wanted to spit Celine’s face ? Hmm…

    Stop copy pasting my answers. If you are on a superior level you should
    also try some originality. I said it clearly. I reply to you because you are dissing Celine. Simple as that. I don’t play any games with you, I am 100% honest and clear.

    You still haven’t replied to 1 simple question about Mariah’s single ”We Belong Together”. How much has it sold and in which markets was it certified ? I have already replied to your question by posting you the link that shows Celine’s AND Mariah’s respective single certifications and sales by music market. My answers are in there. There is nothing new to add to already established facts. Either way the 90s singles who sold more than 1m
    worldwide are :

    1) Beauty And The Beast 2) The Power Of Love 3) Think Twice 4) To Love You More 5) Pour Que Tu M’Aimes Encore 6) Because You Loved Me
    7) It Is All Coming Back To Me Now 8) All By Myself 9) Tell Him
    10) My Heart Will Go On 11) Immortality 12) I’m Your Angel 13) That’s The Way It Is

    Mariah’s are :

    1) Vision Of Love 2) Emotions 3) I’ll Be There 4) Dreamlover 5) Hero
    6) Without You 7) Endless Love 8) All I Want For Christmas Is You
    9) Fantasy 10) One Sweet Day 11) Always Be My Baby 12) Honey
    13) My All 14) When You Believe 15) I Still Believe 16) Heartbreaker
    17) Thank God I Found You.

    Here :

    mariahjournal.com/infozone/charts/singles/worldwide/index.shtml

    The rest are 18) We Belong Together 19) Shake It Off 20) Touch My Body and 21) Obsessed.

    CHECK THE LINK AND THE CERTIFICATIONS cause I’m sure you
    think every little Mariah song has sold more than 1m worldwide.

    Mariah has more accomplishments in Us and Japan. Hence 99% of her awards are about these two markets. You don’t want me to post the list of their respective awards and accolades. Don’t provoke me.

  44. Divas Live. says:

    blablablabla blobloblobloblo jovjovjovjov mnmmnmnmnmnmn……

    okey darling i read already your post no question about it that mariah is way better in singles just simply because mariah carey songs mostly is all about for teenagers ..teenagers more likely to download etch. while Celine Dion song mostly are for adult contemporary and

    My deer trish / gail Mature people don’t waste there time to downloading /buying singles… they just preserve there efforts & money to watch the actual show..specially Celine Dion’s Concert that’s why Celine is more successful than Mariah . Mariah’s name is not written in a top earners of the decade….hahahaha.. past mariah;s achivement is not counted today….hahahaha……

  45. Divas Live. says:

    I’m from Asia that’s why when you say Mariah is successful in Asia hahahaha you really make me crazy…what a lie.. most singer in Asia don’t like Mariah because of her demanding attitude . When the time she have a tour in Singapore She Said that the Asia \song Bird Ms Regine Velasques is a brown monkey that know how to sing….

    Mariah Has a bad attitude she hate Christina Aguilera , She has a lot of issue of other singers. She hate Celine At divas live 1998 because she think that Celine has more promotion than her. She hate Regine because Regine can easily mimic the way she sing…hahahaha.. she hate the people that would be better than her.. and that is not a good attitude of being a Diva.

  46. Divas Live. says:

    Concert tickets sales is more precious & expensive than Single sales darling .

  47. TRISH says:

    The Reason/Dave/etc.
    Every Mariah’s singles you mentioned here are platinum or multiplatinum just in US.Their worldwide sales worth many millions unlike Celine’s ( Except The Power Of Love,Because You Loved Me,My Heart Will Go On and I Am Your Angel worth million sales in US and are multimillion seller singles worldwide). Big difference !
    Moreover,Beauty And The Beast,The Reason and Immortality doesn’t reach million sales worldwide.

    PS: Loverboy is a multimillion seller single

  48. TRISH says:

    Mariah receive more prestigious and important Awards than Celine.Celine started to receive important Awards in 2000’s.
    You prove nothing by your post.If Celine equals Mariah on albums sales in Oceania ( Australia and New Zealand) Mariah surpass her there in the case of singles sales.So,she sold more records than Celine in Oceania.This is so simple.

  49. TRISH says:

    I don’t provoke you dear.I just show that Mariah outsold Celine in albums sales.But I keep say that you know very well that Mariah Carey has sold more records than Celine Dion worldwide !You know that Lucky Luke.
    Well,I guess that you will spend the rest of your life here since I will never leave this blog.
    You ask me the sales of Mariah’s We Belong Together ? Ok,this single sold more than any single released by Celine for her whole career ( Except My Heart Will Go On). Satisfied ?

  50. TRISH says:

    By the Way,Mariah is a better performer than Celine.Celine may be a better entertainer but not a better performer than Mimi.Mariah’s rendition of Open Arms,O Come All Ye Faithfull,I’ll Be There,Without You,Endless Love and The Star Spangled Banner are unreachable.
    Don’t confound good performance with entertainment.

  51. TRISH says:

    You said that I proved nothing but just babbling the same things with no proofs.
    Mariah’s main achievements in 2000’s
    – 3 Grammy Awards winning
    -Most Extended voice ever ( Guinness World Records )
    -Widest vocal range ever ( Guinness World Records )
    -Greatest voice ever ( MTV Countdown, Blender Magazine,etc. )
    -Most Week at number 1 in Billboard Hot 1oo Chart for a female artist ( We Belong Together)
    -Most Weeks at number 1 in Brazilian Hot 100 Chart history ( I Want To Know What Love Is)
    -Billboard most played song ever ( We Belong Together)
    -Most popular song of the 2000?s ( We Belong Together)
    -The most popular Christmas song worldwide in 2000 decade ( All I Want For Christmas Is You )
    -Most successful female composer ever
    -Most successful female producer ever
    – 4 Number Hits in Billboard Hot 100

    Just precise me which lie I gave here and tell me which proof I have to give about these accomplishments ???

  52. TRISH says:

    Just make Celine’s 2000’s REAL accomplishments out of her irrelevant awards.
    Can you give musical achievements for her out of profits,Ticket concerts price,perfumes,etc…and concerts in Las Vegas and Tours.
    Yes,Celine is a very good businesswoman,but musically she’s very limited.Her achievements lies in awards that she doesn’t really deserve.I told facts,I don’t try to take her down since I am one of her big fans.

  53. TRISH says:

    Admit it or no,Mariah has way more success than Celine as artist.You are smart enough to see it lucky Luke.You just refuse to admit it.You know damn well that Mariah outsold Celine.I am so sure of it !
    No matter if you continue to bring fake links and arguments to deny it,but that can’t change the concrete fact.
    Mariah is more successful than Celine !

  54. TRISH says:

    There is a HUGE difference their single sales.Mariah also has way more singles that are sold by 500.000 or more (900.000).Mariah has sold more than two times more singles than Celine worldwide.
    Mariah has way more Top 10 Hits in Europe than Celine even in 2000’s.Don’t try to lie to us.

  55. The Reason says:

    The Mariah singles I mentioned are either gold or platinum in Us. MULTIplatinum ? Really ? Who lied to you ? The only DOUBLE Platinum singles are All I Want For Christmas Is You, Fantasy and One Sweet Day. Don’t imagine big differences. The replies are in my links. Everything is calculated. Fake links ? How do you dare calling something fake when you can’t even calculate properly ? Your inability to calculate is proved by your posts and let me explain what I mean. You said Immortality sold less than 1m and of course accepted that Mariah’s Vision Of Love sales surpass the 1m without reacting at all. Now sit and see :

    Immortality is certified

    Platinum in Germany -> 500k

    Silver in France -> 150k

    Silver in Uk -> 200k

    and Gold in Sweden -> 20k

    Therefore based on the certifications ALONE it surpasses the 870.000 mark. So yes this single sold more than 1.000.000 worldwide. Same way I said that Vision Of Love sold more than 1.000.000 since it is certified

    Gold in Us -> 500k

    Gold in Australia -> 35k

    Gold N.Zeland -> 10k

    Therefore its world certifications stand at 550.000 ! Why don’t you react to Mariah’s singles sales and you only react to Celine’s ? Biased much ? Same way Beauty and The Beast is Gold in Us (500k) and Japan (100k) and Australia (35k) so it gets 635.000 based on the certifications aka over 1.000.000 like the rest singles I mentioned. How come you find it perfectly normal for every Mariah single to sell over 1m while you ignore their respective certifications ? If you don’t know, then don’t speak again and don’t dare to call me a liar. Plus, I NEVER said The Reason sold more than 1.000.000. It is a single that flopped anyway. Like I said earlier you should really READ my posts. As of Loverboy it sold slightly LESS than 1m. The fact that you consider this single a multi million seller perfectly explains why you dream Mariah sold so many singles over Celine.

    Celine doesn’t equal with Mariah in album sales in Oceania. She surpasses her and the difference is not covered by Mariah’s singles. They pretty much tie in this market. Check the certifications they got cause I am so bored of reposting them again and again.

    You just SHOW that Mariah outsold Celine ? How ? By INFLATING her album sales and contradicting with her official sites, label announcements, her promotion/management team, her biographies, her awards and her own words ? You are very funny to think that you actually ”SHOW” or ”PROVE” something. Mariah is known to have sold 200m records + and you proudly say with NO PROOF that she sold close to 300m records if not more. Ok then, I guess Celine sold 330m records then since she is know for records sales of 220m since early 2010. I can also ignore all the facts that are given to me. You are not the only to do it. I still remember the way you LIED that ”Butterfly” sold 18.000.00o while its certifications at the most popular markets stand at 7.500.000. And once I asked where this album sold the rest 11.000.000 you always used to avoid the question by repeating the same thing. Is this what a good debater does ? Is this what an adult does ? Is this what a mature person does ? Is this the way a person’s brain works ?

    Moving on, you still ignored and tried to avoid my SIMPLE Question while I try to give detailed answers to all your questions. Let me make it CLEAR. I didn’t ask for your THOUGHTS on We Belong Together. I wait
    a NUMBER and I wait its global CERTIFICATIONS. So I am still waiting.

    What does performing have to do with singing well some songs ? Performing is all about stage presence. So you think Mariah is a better singer AND performer AND that she is much more successful than Celine but she is still years behind Celine when it comes to touring ? How come ? If you could only make sense. If there is ONE reason why Celine is more successful at touring, it is because she is more comfortable on stage. Mariah suffers from severe stage fright and this is one the reasons she avoided touring even in her prime. She has stated this in many interviews and in many videos this is quite evident. Either way, I really CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHY people don’t go to Mariah’s concerts despite the ”fact” that she owns all these skills over Celine. Just let me use your own words and tell you this : Don’t confound singing / interpreting with performing.

    I see you keep posting Mariah’s accomplishments. Well take a look at the respective awards since 1990 :

    MARIAH CAREY AWARDS

    1991
    Soul Train Music Awards (3)
    Best R&B/Urban Contemporary Album of The Year – Female (“Mariah Carey”)
    Best R&B/Urban Contemporary Single – Female (“Love Takes Time”)
    Best R&B/Urban Contemporary New Artist

    American Music Awards (1)
    Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist

    Billboard Music Awards (5)
    Hot 100 Singles Artist 1991
    Top Female Album Artist (“Mariah Carey”)
    Top Female Single Artist (“Vision Of Love”)
    Top Adult Contemporary Artist
    Top Pop Album Artist

    BMI Pop Awards (5)
    Song of the Year (“Love Takes Time”)
    Songwriter Award (“Love Takes Time”)
    Songwriter Award (“Vision of Love”)
    Songwriter Award (“Someday”)
    Songwriter Award (“I Don’t Wanna Cry”)

    Grammy Awards (2)
    Best Pop Vocal Performance Female (“Vision of Love”)
    Best New Artist

    Rolling Stone Magazine’s Readers Pick Awards (1)
    Best New Female Artist

    New York City Music Awards (1)
    Best Female Pop Vocalist

    1992
    American Music Awards (1)
    Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist

    Billboard Music Awards (2)
    Top Female Album Artist (“Emotions”)
    Top Female Single Artist

    BMI Pop Awards (1)
    Songwriter of The Year

    1993
    American Music Awards (January 26) (3)
    Pop/Rock Female Artist
    Top Contemporary Album (“MTV Unplugged”)
    Special Award for Worldwide Sales of over 55 million

    BMI Pop Awards (3)
    Songwriter Award (“Emotions”)
    Songwriter Award (“Can’t Let Go”)
    Songwriter Award (“Make It Happen”)

    ASCAP Pop Music Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Can’t Let Go”)

    1994
    ARIA Music Awards (Australia) (3)
    Most Popular International Album of the Year (“Music Box”)
    Most Popular International Solo Female Artist
    Take 40 Australia Best Chart Album Performance (“Music Box”)

    Billboard Music Awards (1)
    Female Artist of The Year

    MTV European Music Awards (1)
    Favorite Female Artist

    Rockefellar Center Awards (2)
    Worldwide Sales of over 20 million copies (“Music Box”)
    Worldwide Sales of over 55 Million since 1990

    BMI Pop Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Dreamlover”)

    Bravo Magazine Awards (Germany) (1)
    Golden Otto Award – Best Female Artist

    Smash Hits Magazine Awards (UK) (1)
    Best Female Solo Artist

    ASCAP Rhythm & Soul Music Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Hero”)

    1995
    American Music Awards (1)
    Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist

    Blockbuster Entertainment Awards (1)
    Top Pop Female

    Bravo Magazine Awards (Germany) (1)
    Silberner Otto Award – Second Best Female Artist

    Smash Hits Magazine Awards (UK) (1)
    Best Female Solo Artist

    Echo-Preis Awards (Germany) (1)
    Beste International Kunstlerin (Best International Artist)

    World Music Awards (3)
    Best Selling American Recording Artist
    Best Selling World Recording Artist
    Best Selling Pop Artist

    BMI Pop Awards (3)
    Songwriter Award (“Hero”)
    Songwriter Award (“Dreamlover”) – Second Award
    Songwriter Award (“Anytime You Need A Friend”)

    ASCAP Pop Music Awards (3)
    Songwriter Award (“Hero”)
    Songwriter Award (“Dreamlover”)
    Songwriter Award (“Anytime You Need A Friend”)

    ASCAP Rhythm & Soul Music Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Hero”) – Second Award

    1996
    American Music Awards (2)
    Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist
    Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist

    Billboard Music Awards (4)
    Hot 100 Singles Artist of The Year
    Hot 100 Airplay
    Hot Adult Contemporary Artist of The Year
    Special Hot 100 Billboard Award – Record 16 weeks at #1 (“One Sweet Day”)

    Blockbuster Entertainment Awards (2)
    Favorite Single (“Fantasy”)
    Favorite Adult Contemporary Single Female (“One Sweet Day”)

    World Music Awards (4)
    World’s Best Selling Female R&B Artist
    World’s Best Selling Overall Female Recording Artist
    World’s Best Selling Female Pop Artist
    Best Selling American Female Recording Artist

    Bravo Magazine Awards (Germany) (1)
    Bronzener Otto Award: For Third Best Female Artist

    Winter Music National Dance Awards (2)
    Dance Record Of The Year (“Fantasy”)
    Dance Artist Of The Year

    BMI Pop Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Anytime You Need A Friend”) – Second Award

    Gold Disc Awards (Japan) (2)
    International Artist Of The Year
    International Pop Album Of The Year (“Daydream”)

    TMF Awards (Holland) (1)
    Best International Female Singer

    1997
    VH1 Viewers Poll Awards (1)
    Artist of The Year

    BMI Pop Awards (5)
    Song of the Year (“One Sweet Day”)
    Songwriter Award (“One Sweet Day”)
    Songwriter Award (“Fantasy”)
    Songwriter Award (“Always Be My Baby”)
    Songwriter Award (“Forever”)

    ASCAP Pop Music Awards (3)
    Songwriter Award (“One Sweet Day”)
    Songwriter Award (“Fantasy”)
    Songwriter Award (“Forever”)

    ASCAP Rhythm & Soul Music Awards(1)
    Songwriter Award (“One Sweet Day”)
    Bravo Magazine Awards (Germany) (1)
    Silberner Otto Award – Second Best Female Artist

    1998
    American Music Awards(1)
    Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist

    Blockbuster Entertainment Awards (1)
    Favorite Female – Pop (“Butterfly”)

    Billboard Music Awards (1)
    Special Billboard Hot 100 Award – Most #1 singles by a female solo artist (13)

    World Music Awards (2)
    World’s Best Selling Female Soul/R&B Artist
    Legend Award – World’s Best Selling Artist of the 90’s

    Soul Train Lady of Soul Awards (1)
    The Aretha Franklin Award – Female Entertainer of The Year

    International Achievement In Arts Awards (1)
    Entertainer of The Year

    Long Island Music Awards (1)
    Best Female Singer

    BMI Pop Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Always Be My Baby”) – Second Award

    1999
    Blockbuster Entertainment Awards (1)
    Favorite Pop Female

    Billboard Music Awards (1)
    Artist of The Decade

    BMI Pop Awards (4)
    Songwriter Of The Year
    Songwriter Award (“Butterfly”)
    Songwriter Award (“Honeyl”)
    Songwriter Award (“My All”)

    Critics Choice Awards (1)
    Best Song (“When You Believe”)

    ASCAP Pop Music Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Honeyl”)

    NAACP Image Awards
    Outstanding Duo or Group (Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston for “When You Believe”)

    Congressional Awards (1)
    Horizon Award For Founding Fresh Air Fund’s Camp Mariah

    NABOB Awards (1)
    Entertainer of The Year

    Bravo Magazine Awards (Germany) (1)
    Silberner Otto Award – Second Best Female Artist

    BFCA Award (1)
    Best Film Song (“When You Believe”)

    2000
    American Music Awards (1)
    Lifetime Of Achievement Award

    Blockbuster Entertainment Awards (1)
    Favorite Female Artist R&B

    World Music Awards (2)
    World’s Best Selling R&B Female
    World’s Best Selling Female Artist of the Millennium

    DMX Music Awards (1)
    Ultimative Diva

    NRJ Radio Music Awards (France) (1)
    Best International Artist

    2001
    BMI Urban Awards (1)
    Songwriter Award (“Thank God I Found You”)

    The Make-A-Wish Foundation’s Chris Greicius Awards (1)
    Celebrity Wish Granter of the Year

    Radio Music Awards (1)
    Most Requested Artist

    2002
    Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Awards (1)
    Top R&B/Hip-Hop Single Sales (“Loverboy”)

    2003
    The Fresh Air Fund’s Salute to American Heroes Awards (1)
    The American Hero Award – Ongoing contributions to the Fresh Air Fund

    MTV’s Total Request Live Awards (1)
    The Free Ride Award – Best Vehicle Hook-Up (“Loverboy” Hot Rod)

    RIAA Certification Awards (1)
    Commemorative Award – Blue Diamond Award For 100th RIAA Certification

    Soul Train Awards (1)
    Quincy Jones Award – Outstanding Career Achievements in Entertainment, Female

    NRJ Radio Music Awards (Sweden) (1)
    Most Played Artist (1993-2003)

    Z100 New York Achievement in Music Awards (1)
    Achievement Award – Musical and Philanthropic contributions to New York City

    World Music Awards (1)
    Diamond Award – For over 100 million album sales worldwide

    2004
    MTV Asia Awards (1)
    Lifetime Achievement Award

    GrooveVolt Music & Fashion Awards (4)
    Best Female Pop Album (“Charmbracelet”)
    Best Female Pop Song Performance (“Through The Rain”)
    Best Unreleased Pop Album Track (“My Saving Grace”)
    Best Hip-Hop Collaboration (“I Know What You Want”)

    2005
    MTV Japan Video Music Awards (1)
    International Video Icon Award

    Capital Awards 2005 (1)
    Outstanding Contribution to Music

    World Music Awards (4)
    World’s Best Selling Pop Female Artist
    World’s Best Selling R&B Artist
    Female Entertainer of the Year
    Most Played Single (“We Belong Together”)

    Teen Choice Awards (2)
    Choice Music: R&B Artist
    Choice Love Song (“We Belong Together”)

    Lady of Soul Awards (2)
    Best R&B/Soul Album, Solo (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)
    Best R&B/Soul Single, Solo (“We Belong Together”)

    Kiss Awards (UK) (1)
    Best Female Artist

    VIBE Awards (4)
    Artist of the Year
    Album of the Year (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)
    Best R&B Song (“We Belong Together”)
    R&B Voice of the Year

    American Music Awards (1)
    Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist

    Bambi Awards (Germany) (1)
    Pop International Artist

    Billboard Music Awards (5)
    Female Billboard 200 Album Artist of the Year
    Female R&B/Hip-Hop Artist of the Year
    Hot 100 Song of the Year (“We Belong Together”)
    Hot 100 Airplay of the Year (“We Belong Together”)
    Rhythmic Top 40 Title of the Year (“We Belong Together”)

    Recording Academy (NY Chapter) Honor (1)
    Honored for outstanding achievements

    XM Nation Music Awards (1)
    On the Rebound – Best Comeback of the Year

    Radio Music Awards (4)
    Artist of the Year – Urban and Rhythmic Radio
    Song of the Year – Mainstream Hit Radio (“We Belong Together”)
    Song of the Year – Urban and Rhythmic Radio (“We Belong Together”)
    Radio Legend Award

    2006
    GrooveVolt Music & Fashion Awards (6)
    Album of the Year (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)
    Song of the Year (“We Belong Together”)
    Best Female Pop Album (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)
    Best Female Pop Song Performance (“We Belong Together”)
    Best Unreleased Pop Album Track (“Circles”)
    Best Female R&B Song Performance (“We Belong Together”)

    Grammy Awards (3)
    Best Contemporary R&B Album (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)
    Best R&B Song (“We Belong Together”)
    Best Female R&B Vocal Performance (“We Belong Together”)

    Total Request Live Awards (1)
    First Lady of TRL

    NAACP Image Award (1)
    Best Album (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)

    Soul Train Awards (2)
    Best Female R&B-Soul Album (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)
    Best Female R&B-Soul Song (“We Belong Together”)

    BMI Urban Awards (6)
    Song of the Year (“We Belong Together”)
    Songwriter of the Year
    #1 Billboard Song (“We Belong Together”)
    Most Performed Song (“We Belong Together”)
    Most Performed Song (“Shake It Off”)
    Most Performed Song (“Don’t Forget About Us”)

    Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Awards (5)
    Top R&B/Hip-Hop Album (“The Emancipation of Mimi”)
    Top R&B/Hip Hop Artist- Female
    Top R&B/Hip-Hop Artist
    Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs Artist
    Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Albums Artist

    Wish Night 2006 Awards (1)
    Wish Icon Award (for generosity/contributions to Make-A-Wish)

    2007
    BMI Pop Awards (2)
    Most Performed Song (“Shake It Off”)
    Most Performed Song (“Don’t Forget About Us”)

    VH1 Save The Music Foundation Award (1)
    Honored for her contribution to the VH1 Save The Music Foundation

    2008
    Choice FM Awards
    Hall of Fame Award

    Basenotes Award
    Best Celebrity Women’s Fragrance for M by Mariah Carey

    TIME Magazine
    Named one of the “100 Most Influential People In The World”

    MTV Video Music Awards Japan
    Video Vanguard

    BET Awards
    Beautiful Healthy Smile

    Long Island Music Hall of Fame
    Inductee

    20th Annual World Music Awards
    Special Achievement Award

    2008 American Music Awards
    Honorary Award (in recognition of being the solo artist with the most number one hits of all time, and more weeks at number one than any other artist in the history of recorded music)

    2009
    14th Annual Capri Hollywood International Film Festival (1)
    Capri Award ’09 – Supporting Actress of the Year (for performance in Precious)

    Palm Springs International Film Festival Awards Gala (1)
    Breakthrough Performance Award (for performance in Precious)

    2010
    People’s Choice Awards
    Favorite R&B Artist

    12th Annual Keepers of the Dream Awards
    James Brown Cultural Excellence Award (For her philanthropic work through Camp Mariah, which sends 300 inner-city boys and girls to camp.)

    ——————————————————————-
    PROVEN FACT : 99% of these are Us awards. Not real accolades in Canada, Europe, Oceania, Africa, N.America or contenental Asia no matter how many times you’re gonna post your delusional thgouhts of astronomic million sales in these countries. We know Mariah sells huge amounts in Us and Japan and this is why she is awarded in both markets. But continental Asia ? No. She definitely had success there with many of her albums but these markets are too small to make her sell 40.000.000 in continental Asia like you think. Same way it works in Europe with Mariah. She is successful in Uk (she has a few awards there) but she is not that popular in continental Europe. Hence she doesn’t have awards there.

    Now take a look at Celine’s awards and accolades. You’re gonna see she is awarded in EVERY MUSIC market. She even got some Latin Billboard awards for her popularity in South America.

    Really Look :

    CELINE DION AWARDS

    1990

    Billet Platine
    Billet Platine for the Concert Celine Dion
    Felix Awards
    Best Angolphone Artist (award refused)

    1991
    Juno Awards
    Album of the Year – Unison
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Felix Awards
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French

    1992
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Female Recording Artist of the Year
    Juno Awards
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Felix Awards
    Best Selling Album of the Year – Dion chante Plamondon
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French
    MuchMusic Video Awards
    Best Adult Contemporary Video – “Je danse dans ma tete”
    Governor General’s Awards
    Honoured with a Medal of Recognition on Canada’s 125th Birthday from the Governor General for Her Contribution to Canadian Culture.

    1993
    Grammy Awards
    Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal – “Beauty and the Beast” (with Peabo Bryson)
    Best Song Written for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media (to Alan Menken and Howard Ashman) – “Beauty and the Beast”
    Billboard Awards
    Billboard International Creative Achievement Award
    Juno Awards
    Best Selling Francophone Album – Dion chante Plamondon
    Single of the Year – “Beauty and the Beast”
    Best Dance Recording – “Love Can Move Mountains” (club mix)
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Felix Awards
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province of Quebec

    1994
    Grammy Awards
    Best Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocal(s) (to David Foster and Jeremy Lubbock) – “When I Fall in Love”
    Juno Awards
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Felix Awards
    Female Artist of the Year
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in a Language Other Than French
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province Of Quebec

    1995
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Female Recording Artist of the Year
    Ivor Novello Awards
    Song of the Year – “Think Twice”
    Juno Awards
    Album of the Year – The Colour of My Love
    Best Selling Album (Foreign or Domestic) – The Colour of My Love
    Felix Awards
    Pop/Rock Album of the Year – D’eux
    Most Popular Song of the Year – “Pour que tu m’aimes encore”
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province of Quebec

    1996
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Recording Artist of the Year
    MIDEM Awards
    Award for Combined European Sales of Over 10 Million Units in 1995
    Award for Sales of Over 4 Million Units Worldwide for the Album D’eux
    Juno Awards
    Best Selling Album of the Year – D’eux
    Best Selling Francophone Album of the Year – D’eux
    Felix Awards
    Best Selling Album of the Year – D’eux
    Female Artist of the Year
    Performance of the Year
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success in Any Language Other Than French
    Quebec Artist Achieving the Most Success Outside the Province of Quebec
    BAMBI Awards
    Top International Pop Star of the Year
    VH1 Awards
    Artist of the Year
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Song of the Year – “To Love You More”
    IRMA Awards
    Best International Female Artist Album – The Colour of My Love
    Malta Music Awards
    Best Selling International Artist
    Victoires de la Musique
    Best Francophone Artist
    Best Song of the Year – “Pour que tu m’aimes encore”
    Trophee Radio France Internationale
    Conseil Francophone de la Chanson – “Pour que tu m’aimes encore”
    Medal of Arts and Letters
    From France’s Minister of Culture Recognizing Celine Dion’s Status as the Best Selling French-language Artist in History

    1997
    Grammy Awards
    Album of the Year – Falling into You
    Best Pop Vocal Album – Falling into You
    Best Song Written for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media (to Diane Warren) – “Because You Loved Me”
    World Music Awards
    World’s Overall Best Selling Recording Artist of the Year
    World’s Best Selling Pop Artist of the Year
    World’s Best Selling Canadian
    Juno Awards
    Best Selling Album (Foreign or Domestic) – Falling into You
    Best Selling Francophone Album – Live a Paris
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    International Achievement Award
    Felix Awards
    Album of the Year (Pop Rock) – Live a Paris
    Album of the Year (Best Seller) – Live a Paris
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    Most Successful Quebecois Artist in a Language Other Than French
    Most Successful Quebecois Artist Outside Quebec
    NARM Awards
    1996/1997 Best Seller Award for Recording of the Year – Falling into You
    1996/1997 Best Seller Award for Pop Recording – Falling into You
    1996/1997 Best Seller Award for Artist of the Year
    IRMA Awards
    Best International Female Artist Album – Falling into You
    Malta Music Awards
    Best Selling Female International Artist
    International Achievement in Arts Awards
    Entertainer of the Year for Distinguished Achievement in Music
    Pop Corn Music Awards
    Best Album of the Year – Falling into You
    Best Female Singer of the Year
    Coca-Cola Full Blast Music Awards
    Most Popular International Artist of 1996
    FM Select Diamond Awards
    Top Female International Artist
    AMIGO Awards
    Best International Female Artist
    National TV2 Awards
    Best International Female Artist

    1998
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Recording Artist of the Year
    American Music Awards
    Favourite Pop/Rock Female Artist
    Billboard Music Awards
    Female Album of the Year – Let’s Talk About Love
    Soundtrack Single of the Year – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Album Artist of the Year
    Adult Contemporary Artist of the Year
    Album of the Year – Titanic
    Soundtrack Album of the Year – Titanic
    The Order of Canada
    Appointed Officer of the Order of Canada for Outstanding Contribution to the World of Contemporary Music
    National Order of Quebec
    Appointed Officer of the National Order of Quebec
    South African Music Awards
    Best Selling International Album – Falling into You
    VH1 Viewers Vote Awards
    Artist of the Year
    Best Female Artist
    Diva of the Year
    Japan Record Awards
    Special Achievement, International Artist – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Pop Album of the Year – Let’s Talk About Love
    International Artist of the Year
    MuchMusic Video Awards
    People’s Choice: Favourite Canadian Artist
    Performance Magazine Readers Poll Awards
    Best Pop Act
    BMI Pop Awards
    Song of the Year – “It’s All Coming Back to Me Now”
    Pop Corn Music Awards
    Best Female Singer of the Year
    Hungarian Record Industry Awards
    International Album of the Year – Let’s Talk About Love
    AMIGO Awards
    Best International Female Artist

    1999
    Grammy Awards
    Record of the Year – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Best Female Pop Vocal Performance – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Song of the Year (to James Horner and Will Jennings) – “My Heart Will Go On”
    Best Song Written for a Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media (to James Horner and Will Jennings) – “My Heart Will Go On”
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Female Pop Artist
    American Music Awards
    Favourite Female Pop/Rock Artist
    Favourite Adult Contemporary Artist
    Favorite Soundtrack – Titanic
    Juno Awards
    Best Album – Let’s Talk About Love
    Best Selling Album (Foreign or Domestic) – Let’s Talk About Love
    Best Selling Francophone Album – S’il suffisait d’aimer
    Female Vocalist of the Year
    International Achievement Award
    Felix Awards
    Most Successful Quebecois Artist in a Language Other Than French
    Walk of Fame
    Inducted into Canada’s Walk of Fame
    Canadian Broadcast Hall of Fame
    Inducted into the Canadian Broadcast Hall of Fame
    People’s Choice Awards
    Favourite Female Music Performer
    BAMBI Awards
    For Sales of Over 10 Million CDs in Germany, Austria and Switzerland
    South African Music Awards
    Best Selling International Album – Let’s Talk About Love
    Blockbuster Entertainment Awards
    Favourite Song from a Movie – “My Heart Will Go On”
    ECHO Awards
    Most Successful International Female Artist
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Song of the Year – “My Heart Will Go On”
    International Pop Album of the Year – These Are Special Times
    International Artist of the Year
    Sony Music Awards
    For Over 120 Million Albums Sold
    Performance Magazine Awards
    To Rene Angelil for Personal Manager of the Year

    2000
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best-Selling Female Pop Artist
    Japan Gold Disc Awards
    International Pop Album of the Year – All the Way… A Decade of Song
    International Artist of the Year

    2001

    American Music Awards
    Favorite Artist – Adult Contemporary

    2002
    Billboard Latin Music Awards
    Special Award for “My Heart Will Go On” as the First English-language Song to Top Billboard’s Hot Latin Tracks
    NRJ Music Awards
    Best French Duet – “Sous le vent” (with Garou)
    Victoires de la Musique
    Best Original Song of the Year – “Sous le vent”
    Felix Awards
    Most Successful Quebecois Artist in a Language Other Than French
    Special Disc Awards
    In Recognition of 15 Million Album and Single Sales in the United Kingdom

    2003
    American Music Awards
    Favorite Artist – Adult Contemporary (January)
    Favorite Artist – Adult Contemporary (November)
    IFPI Awards
    In Honour of a Total of 50 Million Albums Sold in Europe
    To Commemorate the Sale 10 Million Copies of Let’s Talk About Love in Europe
    Dragon Awards
    Female Artist of the Year – International
    Arion Music Awards
    Best Sales, International Album for A New Day Has Come

    2004
    World Music Awards
    Diamond Award for World’s Best Selling Female Artist of All Time (175 Million Albums Sold)
    Hollywood Walk of Fame
    Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame
    Dragon Awards
    Female Artist of the Year – International
    FiFi Awards
    Fragrance of the Year – Women’s Popular Appeal for ‘Celine Dion Parfums’
    ELLA Awards
    For Contribution to Music and Humanitarian and Community Support
    Nevada Ballet Theatre Awards
    Woman of the Year for Significant Contribution to the Performing Arts

    2005
    24th Annual Las Vegas Review Journal’s “Best of Las Vegas” Awards
    Best Headliner in Las Vegas
    6th Annual Visitors’ Choice Awards
    Favorite Headliner in Las Vegas
    Etoiles Cherie FM
    Etoile Cherie FM d’honneur

    2006
    SOCAN Awards
    Best Composition – “Tout pres du bonheur”
    25th Annual Las Vegas Review Journal’s “Best of Las Vegas” Awards
    Best Headliner in Las Vegas
    FiFi Awards
    Best Packaging – Women’s Popular Appeal for ‘Belong’
    7th Annual Visitors’ Choice Awards
    Favorite Headliner in Las Vegas
    MovieEntertainment Awards
    Entertainer of the Year in the category of Entertainment Industry’s Most Influential Canadian

    2007
    World Music Awards
    Legend Award
    Etoiles Cherie FM
    Etoile Cherie FM Award
    26th Annual Las Vegas Review Journal’s “Best of Las Vegas” Awards
    Best Singer
    Best All-Around Performer
    Best Show Choreography
    Nevada Commission on Tourism
    Entertainer of the New Millennium

    2008
    World Music Awards
    World’s Best Selling Canadian Recording Artist
    Felix Awards
    Special Honorary Award
    Honorary degree
    Honorary Doctorate in Music from the Universite Laval
    Legion d’honneur
    Legion d’honneur
    NRJ Music Awards
    NRJ Music Award D’honneur
    Special Awards
    For being the only artist with 7 albums that sold more than 1 million copies in Canada
    Special Disc Awards
    In Recognition of 1 Million Album Sales in Poland
    Walk of Fame in Krakow, Poland
    Star on the Walk of Fame in Krakow, Poland

    2009
    Felix Awards
    DVD of the Year – Celine sur les Plaines

    FACT : It’s clear Celine is awarded everywhere and it’s clear she is the one to sell out big stadiums in every music market. As of their album sales I have nothing more to add. Their label, awards, media, magazines, official sites and biographies have said it all years before me. Moreover, it is an established fact Celine has major success in continental Europe and this is why she is awarded there. Does she experience major success in continental Asia ? Nope. This is why she is NOT awarded there just like Mariah (who still sold more than Celine in continental Asia, just not the fake unsupported numbers you kept posting). The fact on who got the most important and recent accolades the past years is clear to any unbiased person. However don’t forget that we should take into account their hard times as well. The only bad year for Celine’s sales would be 2004. Mariah had issues in 2001, 2002, 2008, 2009 and 2010 and most of these projects are panned by music critics as well. At least when Celine’s studio albums flop she still has her touring. Mariah ? Maybe good selling singles but as you know that’s not always the case given the fact that Charmbracelet and MCTY didn’t even have good selling singles. Moreover, Celine sold huge amount of music Dvds this decade. So she also has these to back her up. Her latest Dvds with no promotion at all (she was trying to be pregnant) outsold Mariah’s latest ALBUM. Don’t forget also that Mariah was the one to be kicked out of a label while Celine was signing the biggest contract for a live entertainment deal in music history. Plus, Celine owns the bigger and more stable contract with a bigger label. So a good look at their career LOWS is not always bad.

    Finally, I don’t care on your OPINION about which of these Celine deserved and I don’t change my facts and opinion on their sales. Celine surpasses Mariah. There is no need to repeat this in every post. We know already your thoughts. Oh yeah, Celine has MANY singles to sell more than 500k and less than 1m worldwide like Falling Into You, Je Sais Pas, Sous Le Vent, I’m Alive, A New Day Has Come, D’Amour Ou D’Amitie, If you asked me to and so on. The following page perfectly explains how Celine reaches the 47.000.000 mark in single sales. Oh but I forgot ! You don’t trust links that prove you wrong. I know it is convenient. I’m sure if someone threw on my face several links and pages and sources that owned me and proved what an I ignorant I am I would react the same way. This is denial at its best. Anyway, for a change, see this :

    celinedioncharts.com/bysingle.htm

    After you realize how ignorant you look by saying several Celine singles
    didn’t sell more than 1.000.000 worldwide but AT THE SAME TIME accept that Mariah’s singles sell easily more than 1.000.000, WHILE Celine’s singles got HIGHER certifications proves your IGNORANCE AND PARTIALITY. If you get rid of these FLAWS, reply. If not, you’re wasting your time cause I have enough patience to prove you wrong any time and show you how to CALCULATE properly. Till then all your little thoughts ”Mariah sold double amount no doubt” are IGNORED. Don’t accuse me of being strict with you. You leave me no choice.

    Still love you though. :)

  56. The Reason says:

    PS :

    My mistake : Beauty And The Beast is Platinum in Japan (200k) and Gold in Us (500k) so it gets 700k from its certifications. It was not certified in Australia. So it sold slightly above 1m worldwide.

    Loverboy is Gold in Us (500k) and Gold in Australia (35k) so it gets 535k from its certifications.

    EVERYONE TAKE NOTE : TRISH denied BATB sold more than 1.000.000
    while it gets 700k certified sales and then had the nerve to post that
    Loverboy is a multimillion selling single when its certified sales stand at 535k.

    Everyone can see how biased and ignorant you are TRISH. You shouldn’t talk about sales at all. I even remember the days you lied that MC has #1 singles in Jamaica, Heiti and Fidgi Islands.

    Lies after lies and contradictions after contradictions and ignorance after ignorance and partial comments with no substance. That’s all you can do.

    Away with you Dahhling. <3

  57. Divas Live. says:

    WOW this is what we call a true stan of Celine Dion Not a bias one like trish
    always posting blablablabla but cant still prove what she wrote..Trish trish trash .. please next time darling if there’s something you want us to believe just give us the links okey ?? so that you will not look ignorant…..okey I love you trash,…..i mean trish….

    And now the winner is CELINE DION…………………..FOREVER…….

  58. scarey angel says:

    hahaha Madonna is light years better than both of them

  59. scarey angel says:

    Its Crazy & Idiot ,Radiculous,Irrelevant to choose whose more Successful Mariah Or Celine while the Answer is Madonna…..

    Celine is ugly an very old boring.
    Mariah is like a cow pretending to be an angel looks & voice ..okey don’t put some make-up at Mariah’s face and you will see the fat Aretha…

    Madonna is more beautiful than Mariah
    More sexy than Mariah
    More successful than Celine in tour
    Look younger than Celine & Mariah
    No Flop like Mariah
    Not boring Like Celine
    has More awards than Celine
    More Popular than Mariah famous than Celine
    can seduce more men than Mariah
    can hold notes for 17 sec. with screamy falcito than Mariah.
    Madonna the most successful female artist in the \past ,Present.* & for the future. muahh….

  60. scarey angel says:

    By the way indeed Trish must give links to support her delusional post.
    Moooriah Scarey………. trying hard singer.

  61. The Reason says:

    @ scarey angel

    You forgot to mention that Madonna is an untalented, voiceless nobody next to Celine and Mariah. The only reason why Madonna sold more than them is because she is A DECADE OLDER and debuted WORLDWIDE in 1983 and has released DOUBLE amount of english records. #OUCH

    We all know Madonna is DUMPED in awards and total sales since Mariah and Celine debuted WORLDWIDE in 1990. Madonna was lucky enough to play it SAFE for 8 years BEFORE Celine and Mariah debuted worldwide.

    NONE of Madonna’s albums managed to sell as much as Let’s Talk About Love and Falling Into You. NONE of Madonna’s singles managed to sell as much as My Heart Will Go On. Madonna could NEVER pull off residency shows like Celine. NONE of Madonna’s DVDS ever sold as much as Celine’s 2007 Music Dvd. NONE of Madonna’s albums ever made an impact like Celine’s FIY and LTAL. NONE of Celine’s records has ever been panned as Madonna’s Erotica. NONE of Madonna’s albums has ever made history like Celine’s D’Eux. NONE of Madonna’s concerts has ever pulled audiences of more than 90.000 people. Celine has done this twice. #OOOPS.

    Therefore like I said the only reason why Madonna surpasses Celine is not because she is a better seller (Celine sells higher), it is just because she released DOUBLE amount of ENGLISH records worldwide. #DEAL.

    Funny Fact -> In the 00s :

    Madonna sold : 15m from Music, 7m from her 2001 compilation, 4m American Life, 11m COADF, 3.5m Hard Candy, 2.5m Celebration and about 2m from her live albums. (=45m in Album sales). Am I wrong ? NOPE.

    Celine sold : 18m from All The Way, 3m from her 2000 compilation, 11m from ANDHC, 6m from One Heart, 1.5m from 1 Fille&4 Types, 2m from Live in Las Vegas, 2.5m from Miracle, 1.5m from On Ne Change Pas, 1m D’elles, 3.5m Taking Chances and 2m from My Love. (=52m albums)
    Am I wrong ? NOPE.

    Therefore the ONLY reason why Madonna sold more is because she has released about 30 English projects the past 30 years she is active. Celine eliminated her in album sales in the 90s and also dumped her in the 00s.

    By the way, have you ever questioned yourself WHY Madonna was such a flop in the 90s ? Answer : Because in the 90s the audiences demanded for REAL VOCAL TALENT in order to buy and album. Hence singers like Mariah, Celine, Whitney (and more) had all outsold Madonna. Once vocal talent became irrelevant again (In the 00s) the radio stations started playing songs by untalented mainstream nobodies like Madonna, Britney (LMAO), Aguilera, Bieber, Timberlake, Katy Perry, Kesha, Rihanna. LOL !

    Either way Madonna is a product. Oh and she is older and MUCH
    uglier than Mariah, even Celine looks better than her. Not to mention Celine is a better performer too since her songs have more demands. All Madonna does is being suggestive. Well ok. Celine has actually to interpret her songs. Do you know what interpretation means ? Hmm, nope you don’t since you stan for Madonna.

    As of tours, Celine by 54 will destroy Madonna in touring too. Besides, for how long will Madonna be able to do her suggestive shows ? I mean ok, she will ALWAYS be able to pull her songs, since she LIP SYNCS every song, but what about her ”dancing” moves ? Is she planing to use a wheelchair ? :/ Hmm ?

    Begone now.

  62. scarey angel says:

    Oh Realy ??? Madonna is a legend She still can pull a huge # of People around the world.. Celine need to try haRD & BELT LONGER JUST TO ENTICE . PEOPLE TO WATCH HER SHOW. About Mariah a common she so ugly She sing like a cat dying yelling & shouting like Celine …. Madonna is more successful when we speak about touring Celine just second to him & Mariah oh common i can see the fat cat anymore.

  63. TRISH says:

    Blablabla… You prove nothing ,sorry.Mariah Carey has sold most albums and most singles than Celine worldwide.
    By the way,Loverboy is certified Platinum in US.
    Where are Celine’s 2000’s achievements ?
    You just gave citations and Awards here.I await Celine’s 2000’s achievements that could make of her a most successful artist than Mariah.

  64. TRISH says:

    @ The Reason :”Everyone can see how biased and ignorant you are TRISH. You shouldn’t talk about sales at all. I even remember the days you lied that MC has #1 singles in Jamaica, Heiti and Fidgi Islands”.

    You are worst than me,I remember the days you lied with biased links that Madonna and Celine are wider vocal range than Whitney Houston.You also denied that Mariah has most Hits in Europe than Celine but you still unable to prove it ! You are the champion of lies and tricks.

  65. TRISH says:

    Dear Lucky,Mariah outsold Celine in Oceania,your sources lie and are partial.Mariah is way more popular and successful in New Zealand than Celine.Take it.
    @Divas live:
    Celine is a loser my dear,Mimi rules the game.Mariah doesn’t sing thanks to other artists.Prove to us what your idol worth in facts without her irrelevant citations and awards.Truth hurts,but we must accept them. Kisses !!!!

  66. TRISH says:

    @ Scarey Angel : can you just tell me what Madonna worth without her ass ?
    All that Madonna got over Mariah are her radio airplays in Europe and some successes in concerts because of her strip-teases on stage.She doesn’t know sing at all.

    Mariah is way more beautiful than Madonna even when she become very fat.About voice,she’s THE VOICE don’t forget it dear.

    Mariah is light years more beautiful than Madonna !
    Light years More sexy than Madonna !
    Light years More talented than Madonna
    Mariah Look younger than Madonna ( compare both at the same age. 20,30,39 years) Mariah always look younger
    Celine & Mariah
    Madonna has no album that sold as much as Mariah’s Music Box and Daydream.
    Madonna has no single that sold as much as All I Want For Christmas Is You,Without You,We belong Together,etc.

    Mariah is more Popular than Madonna
    Mariah is could seduce men way easily than Madonna,but she’s not a bitch like Madonna ,this is not important for her to seduce men.

    You just make readers laugh at you when you said “Madonna can hold notes for 17 sec. with screamy falcito than Mariah.” You’re so delusional to dare comparing Madonna with Mariah Carey on vocal capabilities ! You are sick.

    Mariah is the most successful female artist ever ! Even Illuminati that supported Madonna can’t change it.Sorry,but The Voice rules.

  67. TRISH says:

    @ The Reason,you continue to call me liar,but you believe the opposite.This is you the liar.Please,give me Celine’s real achievements as artist.

  68. TRISH says:

    You said that I proved nothing but just babbling the same things with no proofs.
    Here are Mariah’s 2000’s achievements.The Reason,post Celine real 2000’s achievements please and stop trying to cheat us with citations and irrelevant awards.
    Mariah’s main achievements in 2000?s
    – Millennium Award
    -Chopard Diamond Award
    – 3 World Music Award
    – 3 Grammy Awards winning
    -Most Extended voice ever ( Guinness World Records )
    -Widest vocal range ever ( Guinness World Records )
    -Greatest voice ever ( MTV Countdown, Blender Magazine,etc. )
    -Most Week at number 1 in Billboard Hot 1oo Chart for a female artist ( We Belong Together)
    -Most Weeks at number 1 in Brazilian Hot 100 Chart history ( I Want To Know What Love Is)
    -Billboard most played song ever ( We Belong Together)
    -Most popular song of the 2000?s ( We Belong Together)
    -The most popular Christmas song worldwide in 2000 decade ( All I Want For Christmas Is You )
    -Most successful female composer ever
    -Most successful female producer ever
    – 4 Number Hits in Billboard Hot 100

    Just precise me which lie I gave here and tell me which proof I have to give about these accomplishments ???

  69. The Reason says:

    @ scarey angel

    LMAO Both Celine and Mariah are legends. The legendary status is not something only Madonna owns. Of course Celine belts notes, same with Mariah. Madonna ? Not so much. She would collapse and fall apart.

    ”Cat dying” LOL @ your lunacy when you stan for Madonna who can’t even phrase her amateur songs.

    Comparing Madonna to Mariah and Celine in terms of vocal talent is like
    comparing the most delicate french chocolate to pig’s sh**.

    Just stop.

    @ TRISH

    Mariah’s TWELVE Platinum Singles are
    1) Dreamlover, 2) Hero, 3) All I Want For Christmas Is You,
    4) Fantasy 5) One Sweet Day 6) Always Be My Baby 7) Honey 8) My All 9) I Still Believe 10) We Belong Together 11) Touch My Body 12) Obsessed

    Stop searching Wikipedia. Who is the ignorant again ? :)

    ”I remember the days you lied with biased links that Madonna and Celine are wider vocal range than Whitney ”

    OMG ! You really CAN’T think, can you ? Listen girl. Vocal range doesn’t mean SINGING range. Of course Madonna doesn’t sing more notes than Whitney, she has just screamed these notes and they are unsupported. Therefore not part of her singing range. I’m sorry but you are too
    ignorant to get BASIC music pedagogy info and then you think I am the ignorant because you don’t get what I am saying. Let me explain it in SIMPLE WORDS : EVERY person has a vocal range, even children. Thing is that a few people have SINGING range. Got the difference now ? For instance, Celine’s VOCAL range is Bb2-D6 which means 3.5 octaves. BUT the notes she really sings and can support are C3-C6 which means 3 octaves. So her SINGING range is 3 octaves and this is what matters. Go back to our convo and see that I talked about vocal range and I said MANY times that Madonna is an awful singer. I actually support the same stuff even now.

    ”You also denied that Mariah has most Hits in Europe than Celine but you still unable to prove it !”

    You are dreaming. I just said Celine scored 8 top hits in Europe THIS DECADE while Mariah 4. Celine’s top 10 hits are That’s the way it is, I’m alive, A New Day has come, Sous le vant, Tout l’or des hommes, Je ne vous oublie pas and S’il n’en restait qu’une. Mariah’s are I Know what you want, It’s like that, We belong together and Touch my body. So nope I didn’t lie cause my comment was about their 00s sales.

    According to which sources Mariah sold more than Celine in Oceania ? :) I’m waiting. You say my links are biased, so I’m waiting for your UNBIASED proof. :)

    Plus, which certifications has ”We Belong Together” recieved worldwide ? Are you avoiding my simple question dear ? :/

    ————————— ACHIEVEMENTS ————————————–

    Most successful producer and composer ? Mariah ? Who lied to you ? She is successful and awarded but THE MOST SUCCESSFUL EVER ? Good THEORY but Diane Warren has written ALONE more hits in her career and Pink who co-writes her material sold more records this decade than Mariah. Even Lady Gaga has scored more successful singles since 2008 (compared to Mariah’s 00s singles). One of them is even 4 times Platinum in Us. I think Pokerface, not sure. Anyway, as you see there are several other songwriters who experienced more success.

    You asked me which are Celine’s achievements this decade ? Are you
    unable to read ? Her awards (just like in Mariah’s case) are correlated to her achievements. People who don’t achieve things are not awarded. Simple as that. Don’t be bitter cause Celine has been awarded in every music market. Let me EXPLAIN in SIMPLE words Celine’s achievements
    this decade :

    1) Celine in the 00s was awarded at World Music Awards in 2000 for her 1999 sales and 2004 for her career sales (Diamond Award) and 2007 for her legendary status and in 2008 again for her total sales. Just like Mariah
    Celine has 1 Diamond Award & 3 World Music Awards in the 00s.

    2) She also received awards for her sales and popularity in Japan (2000), South America (2002), Uk (2002) ,Europe (2003), Africa (2008) and Canada of course (2008).

    3) She also became the first francophone artist to ever receive a Star on the Hollywood Walk of fame.

    4) She also received many awards about her impact, legacy and contribution in 2004 (Woman of the Year for Significant Contribution to the Performing Arts) 2006 (Most Influential Canadian) , 2008 (Honorary Doctorate in Music from the Universite Laval) and Legion D’Honeur from the Prime Minister of France for being the only artist in history to pass francophone music to non-francophone markets around the world. A unique achievement indeed.

    5) She was also awarded as a performer in 2005, 2006, 2007. Not only she was named the Entertainer of year 2006 but she was also named the entertainer of the New Millennium in 2008. On top of these she grossed $680.000.000 from touring. In other words she earned $680.000.000 from performing.

    6) Funny part (I never really noticed it before!) is that Celine was also awarded as a composer. LOL! I think it is amazing given the fact she has only released 5 songs she created. Anyway, Mariah was obviously awarded more times on these skills and rightfully so.

    IN GENERAL (talking about significance) don’t forget that Celine’s songs have won and have been more times nominated for Golden Globes and Academy Awards. Beauty And The Beast and My Heart Will Go On won Oscars while Because You Loved Me and The Prayer were nominated for Oscars too. Mariah’s only song is ”When You Believe” and she didn’t even compose this one. These awards matter and show undeniable critical acclaim. No comment on Celine’s francophone releases. These are always well received and praised by critics. Moreover her Grammy awards are much more significant than Mariah’s so posting how Mariah got 3 Grammy awards this decade is redundant.

    7) According to LA Times Celine is the #1 earning musician and Mariah is not even in the top 20. It is not just because Celine toured (cause I’m sure you would say so). Celine actually pulled over $240.000.0000 from album sales.

    8) Billboard magazine also posted their list of the best sellers in Us album sales this decade. Celine was at #20, second for a female behind Britney. RIAA gave 14 Platinum Certifications to Celine’s albums and 2 Gold.

    9) Celine has been among the best sellers in Europe and Canada too. Mariah isn’t there either, she has actually only 1 platinum album
    in Europe (TEOM -= 1xP) for the whole 00s decade. Also Celine’s ANDHC, One Heart and TC have all been double platinum or platinum in Australia. Mariah’s only platinum release there was TEOM the past 11 years. Like I proved earlier, Celine was actually awarded in 2001, 2002, 2003 for her European sales and also in 2007, 2008 for her sales in Canada. Mariah was not.

    10) Celine was in the top 10 highest earners in terms of touring. She was placed at #6 second for female. Mariah is nowhere to be found again.

    11) Celine also released 4 huge selling Dvds and wrote history in both the Us and Canadian Dvds charts by getting huge certifications and by debuting at the top spots. None of Mariah’s Music Dvds compares to these features, not even the ones she released in her prime.

    12) Another personal record (In terms of legendary status) is the fact that Celine was asked to perform live at Oscars again, was asked to perform at the Emmy awards again, and has already performed more times than any other vocalist in the Grammys (same we Oscars).

    Hell, Mariah was kicked out of a label the year Celine signed the biggest contract for a live entertainment deal ever. Mariah’s latest albums have sold 2m copies+ COMBINED. Celine NEVER sold that low.

    Only a blind imbecile would think that after all these Mariah has a stable career next to CELINE DION. :)

    Still loving ya though <3

  70. scarey angel says:

    Madonna Madonna Madonna both of you really don’t Know what Madonna Contribute to music industries Music industries is not about how you can do any kind of music style like Mooriah \scoorey did & not about hit a highest note & hold it for 2 days like celine did very ignorant two of you. trish / the reason. trish your so idiot you always say Mariah is light year beautiful than mariah….hahahaha at least Madonna’s ass is whiter than mariah.. Whre is mariah when we talk about world tour???? She IS A HUGE FLOP NOBODY WENT TO HER CONCERT COS shes like a CAT DYING ON STAGE… AND ABOUT CELINE OMG shes so ugly..hahaha …
    Mariah is like a slot being rape on stage when shes screaming just to hit the notes Madonna has more charm on stage people cant help when she start to sing * move her body she sound so good If Mariah & Celine are Queens hahahahahah…Madonna is better coz She is A GODDESS OF MUSIC ….SHUT UP YOU LOSERS,….

  71. The Reason says:

    @ scarey angel

    What has Madonna contributed to the Music Industry ?

    Please explain to me cause in my opinion Madonna is a product. She has contributed NOTHING to the industry other than being tremendously
    successful and an inspiration to several people. However these also apply to Celine and Mariah.

    Moreover, Mariah’s singing inspired 2 generations of singers. Celine
    is also influential in terms of vocal skills. Mariah made a music genre popular in mid 90s. Celine managed to pass francophone music in
    every music music. Mariah’s and Celine’s songs are covered in talent shows by new generations of singers way more than Madonna’s. So yep. Celine and Mariah are both HISTORICALLY important. Madonna ? Not so much.

    Madonna’s ass is whiter than Mariah’s ? Really ? I see your a racist on top of being ignorant and rude AND out of topic. Your talents come out all the time. Good.

    So shut the fu** up and take your bitterness about your voiceless whore in another debate. The point of this debate is whether Celine had the most
    successful career COMPARED TO MARIAH or the opposite.Madonna’s name isn’t mentioned, she’s irrelevant to this debate. Therefore you can go now.

  72. Divas Live. says:

    Please don’t do that you only make yourself funny only Celine Dion has an wholesome image here no matter what you do with Triss Celine Dion rules this time even Mariah & Whetney can stop that.. okey? CELINE DION will soon receive an award that the whole world will threat her the most Precious singer of all singer that live in this world i can feel it.

  73. TRISH says:

    Celine has local Award in many countries because she makes endless tours since so many years.
    You are still unable to give Celine’s achievements.All that you did is giving some citations and titles.
    LIAR I said Mariah Carey is the most successful FEMALE producer and composer ever.She’s more successful than Diane Warren with 17 Number hits penned and produced Billboard recognize it itself who are you to try denied it?

    Behind Mariah,Carole King is second .Diane Warren is behind both.Warren may wrote much more songs then has more Top 10,but Number 1 Hits are meaning way than Top 10.Don’t try to reduce Mariah’s achievements.

  74. TRISH says:

    Celine’s 4 Platinum Singles are The Power Of Love,Because You Loved Me,It’s All Coming Back To Me Now and I Am Your Angel.
    Stop searching partial sources and links.

    Don’t try to clear yourself by explaining how Celine and Madonna has more range than Whitney.You fail,your arguments are deliriums coming from your thoughts to show your little knowledge in music.Sorry,nobody will never believe you.This is a LIE,no question about it.

  75. TRISH says:

    About Hits you LIE,Mariah has way more Top 10 Hits in Europe than Celine even in 2000 decade.
    Celine’s Top 20 Hits at 2000-2010 in Hot 100 Charts
    – I Want You To Need Me (# 1 in Canada )
    – Sous Le Vent ( # 1 France , # 1 Belgium )
    – A New Day Has Come ( #2 Canada, #2 Switzerland, # 7 UK, # 6 Germany,# 13 Belgium, # 19 Australia )
    – I’m Alive (#2 Belgium ,#4 Germany,#7 France, #7 Switzerland,#17 UK)
    – I Drove All Night (#1 Canada,#18 Belgium,#11 Switzerland)
    – Tout L’or Des Hommes (#2 Canada, #5 Belgium,#3 France,# 10 Switzerland)
    – Je T’aime Encore ( #14 France,# 16 Germany)
    – Je Ne Vous Oublie Pas (#4 Belgium, #2 France)
    – Tous Les Secrets (#20 France)
    – S’il N’en Restait Qu’une ( # 4 Belgium, #1 France)
    – Taking Chances (#9 Canada,#7 France,# 5 Switzerland)

    Total # ones Hits : 5
    Total Top 10 Hits : 17
    Total Top 20 Hits : 9

    TOTAL : Top 20 Hits : 31
    Celine has ZERO Top 20 Hit in US Chart for the whole 2000 decade !

    Mariah’s Top 20 Hits at 2000 – 2010 :
    -Against All Odds : (# 1 UK,#18 France,#20 Switzerland)
    -Thank God I Found You ( #1 US, #2 Canada,#17 Switzerland)
    -Loverboy (#1 Japan,#2 US, #7 Australia, #3 Canada, #12 UK )

    -Through The Rain ( #1 Spain, # 5 Canada,#7 Switzerland,#8 UK, #11 Netherlands,#1 Philippines, #15 Australia, #7 Italia )
    -Boy I Need You (#17 UK)
    -Bringin On The Heartbreak (#1 Philippines)
    -I Know What You Want (#1 Romania,#3 US,#3 Australia,#3 UK,#5 Canada,#9Germany,#4 Netherland,#7 New Zealand,#5 Switzerland,#8 Belgium,#7 Danemark,#2 Hungary,#4 Ireland,#4 Italia, #6 Norwegian,#11 Sweden)
    -Lil’ Love (#6 New Zealand)
    -It’s Like That ( #1 Japan,#1 China,#1 Cyprus,#3 Hungaria,#11 Ireland,#7 Italia,#13 Norwegian ,# 16 US, #4 UK,# 9 Australia, #16 France,#14 Germany,#1 Israel, #10 Switzerland, #19 Danish,#13 Netherlands)
    -We Belong Together (#1 US,#1 Australia, #12 France,#11 Germany,#2 Netherlands,#4 Switzerland)
    -Shake It Off (#2 US,#6 Australia, #9 UK, #5 New Zealand )
    -Get Your Number ( #9 UK,# 19 Australia ,#7 Germany, #10 Netherlands,#14 Switzerland)
    -Don’t Forget About us (#1 US,#11 UK,#12 Australia, #12 New Zealand,# 19 Switzerland )
    -Touch My Body ( #1 US, # 5 UK, #17 Australia, #2 Canada,#16 France,#6 Germany,#14 Netherlands,#3 New Zealand,#3 Switzerland)
    -Bye Bye ( #19 US, #7 New Zealand)
    -Obsessed ( #7 US, # 13 Australia,#15 Canada,# 8 France)
    -I Want To Know What Love Is (#1 Brazil,#3 Japan,#14 Danemark, #6 France, #6 Hungary,#19 UK )

    Total of number 1 Hits: 15
    Total of Top 10 Hits : 46
    Total of Top 20 Hits : 33
    TOTAL of Top 20 Hits : 94
    SO, MARIAH CAREY GOT MORE THAN 3 TIMES CELINE’S TOP 20 HITS WORLDWIDE.
    MIMI GOT MUCH MORE HITS EVEN IN 2000 DECADE THAN CELINE WORLDWIDE !

  76. TRISH says:

    Honey,you didn’t show any Celine’s achievement here,only citations and awards. Which artist doesn’t got Awards and citations?
    For Example,Mariah held the record of the widest vocal range ever and most extended voice of all times by Guinness Worlds Records for her notes in the National anthem The Star Spangled Banner in 2002.She has the record of most week at number 1 in Billboard Hot 100 for a female artist (Whitney Houston too with I Will Always Love You) thanks to We Belong Together.
    Most successful FEMALE produced and composer ever thanks to her 17 Number 1 Hits penned and produced.etc…
    About Celine,which CONCERT musical achievement she owns in facts out of her sales in ticket concerts ?

  77. TRISH says:

    Mariah has sold more albums and much more singles than Celine worldwide !
    Mariah is also more successful career than Celine !

  78. TRISH says:

    @ Scarey angels:
    Inform yourself and stop posting your delusional thoughts here.Madonna can’t face Mariah in anything except slutting.

  79. The Reason says:

    @ TRISH -.-

    First thing : Have English lessons NOW. You can’t even comprehend what I’m saying.

    Celine had more hits in Eurochart Hot 100. The songs I mentioned hit top 10 in the chart which shows the combined sales and airplay of songs in Europe.

    Now do me a favor to prove that you are not retarded. Honestly I can’t at your diarrhea. Vocal range does not mean singing range. If I stand next to a piano and start screaming notes of every octave my vocal range might
    be 4 octaves. Do I sing ? No. Same way Madonna has screamed unsupported notes in 4 octaves. Does she sing ? No. If you can’t understand basic stuff let it go. I am FAR from being an ignorant. My education on music and singing is superior to yours. Same way my logic is not flawed.

    Celine’s awards have NOTHING to do with her touring. They are correlated to her sales and chart success. Nice try to reduce the value of these awards. So typical of you.

    I am unable to give her achievements ? LMAO.

    World Music Awards, Awards about her Impact, Sales Accolades, Awards on her performance and on top of that outselling Mariah in album sales in every market except for Asia THIS decade. I didn’t give achievements ?

    # 1 Musician of the 00s (LA Times)

    # 5 Richer Woman (Forbes)

    #6 artist at touring

    #2 at Us album sales (RIAA, Billboard)

    Diamond Award + 3 more WMA awards, more recent than Mariah’s.

    4m Dvd Sales

    $680.000.000 grossing from touring.

    Entiled entertainer of the year and then Entertainer of New Millennium

    And yes. Celine is INDEED awarded in Canada, Europe, Africa and S.America. Mariah is not. Fact. Move on.

    Just to make something clear : Celine’s album sales this decade, the grossing from her touring and her music Dvd sales are on an INTERNATIONAL level. The achievements you post are mostly correlated to the Us market and as far as I remember nobody said or implied Celine is more successful in Us than Mariah.

    Diane Warren has received six Academy Award nominations, five Golden Globe nominations, including one win, and seven Grammy Award nominations, including one win. Her songs are featured in about 80 movies. You missed that. She wrote these songs ALONE. Mariah and 2-15 other people write and produce her stuff. You also missed that. Oh and please stay in topic and don’t confound achievements from this decade to career achievements.

    Now TRY to make some fu**ing sense. You call me a liar because you can’t read. I challenge you to bring me the part where I said Celine has more million selling singles in Us. Please show me WHERE I said so. I challenge you. Of course Celine’s million selling singles in Us are the ones you mentioned. However, my previous comments were about singles than sold more than 1m WORLDWIDE. I never said another Celine song sold more than 1m in Us so have a seat. Partial sources and links ? At least I can bring something LMAO. You can’t even bring certifications of Mariah’s biggest single this decade.

    ”Honey,you didn’t show any Celine’s achievement here,only citations and awards. Which artist doesn’t got Awards and citations?”

    What a basic and flawed logic. Artists with no achievements are never awarded. There are tons of artists who are dumped by awards.

    Again. Since you seem so sure about what you say.

    Which certifications has Mariah over Celine in Oceania ?

    Which certifications has her biggest 00s hit received ?

    Let me give you an example of how funny your lists are :

    I drove all night is #1 Belgium, #1 Canada, #2 Netherlands, #7 Greece and #7 Hungary, #9 Portugal, #1 Sweden, #8 in Eurochart. I guess Celine gets ten 10 top hits based on the simple minded and partial way you think just to inflate Mariah’s singles by taking into account small markets and then ignoring the good charting moments of Celine.

    Celine is the best selling female artist ! Unreachable Indeed.

    See ? I can do the same. :)

    Smoots ! <3

  80. TRISH says:

    Everything I claimed here is right unlike you !
    -whatever you say,Madonna never ever reached 4 octaves in any song.This is a lie.She’s nowhere close to Whitney on vocal range,no matter her vocal technique or range.Your little theory can change it !
    -Mariah is the most successful as composer and producer than Diane Warren.
    -Celine has most Top 10 in Eurochart in 2000’s,but Mariah has much more Number 1 Hits and Top 10 hits in European countries than Celine.Don’t try to confound us by mixing things.
    -You continue to give Celine’s citations without any concrete musical achievement out of sales,profits,tours,etc.You talk about Celine’s awards about her successes on Charts when she had zero Number 1 and zero Top 10 Hit in Billboard Hot 100.Zero Number 1 in other major Charts except a few Top 10 Hits in Eurochart.You just show how much Celine is over awarded.

  81. TRISH says:

    So,Mariah should be awarded for her success on Charts too LMAO !!!
    -You try to be the know it all here when you base your arguments on awards and citations instead of facts.You cited Warren prestigious awards and citations,but as songwriter,how many 1 number 1 songs penned she has in Eurochart and Billboard ?
    -You don’t have guts enough to admit that Celine has zero musical achievement in facts.Only irrelevant awards and citations.
    -Mariah’s million selling singles in US are the ones you mentioned too.Moreover,how many million seller singles Celine has out of US ? She’s not a good single seller even out of US.
    You keep asking me for Mariah’s We Belong Together’s certifications just because you know this single is under certified.
    -I talked about international artists,not about wanna be.Every international artists got awards.

  82. TRISH says:

    You show that Celine was called ” Number 1 Musician Of The 2000’s” WHAT A SHAME !!!! what a shame for Celine and Celiniacs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How biased and irrelevant this title is !!!!
    It’s enough to prove how much partial and irrelevant Celine’s awards and achievements are !

  83. TRISH says:

    You are still unable to show even 1 concrete musical achievement for Celine.What a shame ! 30 years in music ,but only tours,albums sales,perfumes,etc… for grossing money and profits.
    Celine is a puppet,a machine

  84. The Reason says:

    Everything you claim proves you are an ignorant not only when it comes to sales but also when it comes to music theory and vocal pedagogy.

    Madonna has never sang 4 octaves in any song. Where did I say Madonna
    sang notes of 4 octaves ? Make some sense. Whitney eliminates her
    as she is connected and actually SINGS.

    Mariah will be more successful than Diane Warren once she starts
    writing her songs alone like Diane Warren does.

    I never mixed ANYTHING. My comment was CLEARLY about Celine’s
    2000 singles in Eurochart. Too bad you can’t comprehend.

    Celine’s career achievements slay Mariah’s. She is awarded in more markets about her sales, more awards about her overall impact, more awards about performing skills, grossing and her songs are critically acclaimed.

    0 Number 1 hits in Us for this decade doesn’t make Celine a bad seller.
    She still sold more albums in Us this decade, more music Dvds and
    way more tickets. Same thing happened in Canada, Europe, Oceania,
    S.America, Africa.

    Girl you posted Mariah’s World Music Awards this decade as an achievement and then I posted Celine’s. So what the fu** are you talking about ? You also boasted about Mariah’s Grammy awards so I did the same. You also posted MAGAZINE facts and so did I. So how come when YOU use awards and magazines info these are achievements but when I use them they are not ? Biased much ? Like I told you, you can’t make sense.

    Musical achievements ? You mean beside being the highest earning musician of the decade ? You mean beside being asked to perform in Oscars, Grammy and Emmys more than any other artist ? You mean beside being the most profitable artist in Us since Elvis (terms of touring) and among the best sellers of the whole decade is not a musical achievement ? If all these aren’t achievements then Mariah’s good selling single (we belong together) being awarded and named song of the decade is not an achievement either since its status is correlated to its airplay and sales.

    You don’t have the guts to admit Celine’s superiority. You only post
    irrelevant fan made lists from magazines. See ? I can play like you.

    Plus, I mentioned many singles of Mariah’s career that sold over 1m
    out of Us (Mentioned 21 songs). After that, I mentioned her 12 platinum singles in Us was to show you that Loverboy is not one of them (It is Gold in Us but you said it was Platinum cause you looked at Wikipedia). Don’t jump from one topic to another.

    We Belong Together is under certified ? According to which source ? (Your brain ?) RIAA ? Billboard ? Nielsen Soundscan ? IFPI ? Which magazine stated so ? Has Mariah or her label or her fan base complained about this single ? I can do the same about any Celine single. If CERTIFIED sales of 1.000.000 copies worldwide are equal to ACTUAL sales of 5.000.000 copies (or more) worldwide in your little brain, then I guess Celine’s MHWGO sold 20.000.000 in Uk, France and Germany alone (Actual sales) since its CERTIFIED sales in these markets stand at 4.000.000+.

    I am actually asking you about this single to show you how you don’t really know these certifications and therefore how you are not in position to
    talk about single sales, let alone total single sales. I can take your huge and laughable contradictions with all the known facts, but I can’t take the fact that you actually ignore BASIC stuff such as simple certifications.

    Moving on… There are MANY international artists who are dumped
    by career awards such as Madonna. Other successful singers get only nominations and not actual awards.

    The word ”musician” can also apply to singers. Open a music theory book
    and stop acting like a mad cow. Educate yourself and stop looking pathetic. Singers such as Whitney, who don’t compose and don’t play instruments, own musicality. Hence, they have musicianship. Either way Celine can be credited as a musician since she has the potential to write songs and she can also play the piano and guitar. Before you bring your ass here to bash Celine, make sure you know what you are talking about.

    Again…What certifications has Mariah over Celine in Oceania ?

    What certifications has Mariah’s best selling song got ?

    Darling the only awards Mariah has above Celine is her songwriting
    awards (since Celine doesn’t write songs) and the fact that she topped
    some magazine Us list. The fact that Christina Aguilera was put ABOVE
    Mariah in one of these lists (I don’t remember which one exactly)
    should be enough proof to show you how much laughable and
    random these lists are. If you ask my opinion, Mariah deserves the
    #1 spot. However, putting the awful barker in front of Mariah in terms of
    vocal capabilities is so funny indeed. So please you can be proud of Mariah’s awesome vocal abilities (rightfully so), but just don’t use these magazine lists to make a point.

    Celine a puppet, a machine ? Good for her. At least she didn’t sell out her signature song by making a duet with Justin Bieber in order to stay relevant like her manager (Randy Jackson LOL) told her to do. Oops.

    You are 2 years here and still unable to even bring certifications or follow a simple convo. Still contradicting with the facts and still being an ignorant. In these 2 years you are in here you could have improved your English and you could actually inform yourself on music theory so you don’t look like an ignorant by confounding vocal range to singing range.

    Away with you. You are helpless.

  85. TRISH says:

    Blablabla…You blabling nothing coherent.Celine is a puppet,a machine,an overrated artist.She worth nothing in facts.Only her sales and concerts tickets are impressive.You can’t change that.Mariah is waaaaaay more successfull than her.
    Whitney co-write and produce many of her songs.The Preacher’s Wife album is entirely produced by Whitney Houston,so how you could compare her with Celine on musical skills and talent? She’s light years better than Celine.Which songs Celine sang that are composed and produced by herself?

    You are wrong in everything you claim here.You blame Wikipedia when it claim something favorable about Mariah when your arguments and links are all biased and partials.
    You fail, Celine is overrated,she spent 21 years to sing international music without bring any contribution in music,only money to Sony team and to herself.

  86. TRISH says:

    Since When Guinness World Records was a Magazine ? You blame magazine and institutions when they praise Mariah’s exceptional voice but you based you on them when you try to improve Celine’s irrelevant awards.Who is contradictory?

    Every smart people can notice easily that every Celine’s achievements turn around her tours,money and albums sold.Nothing else.She’s the most overrated artist ever !

  87. TRISH says:

    Mariah’s career achievements kills Celine !
    All that Celine has musically are her irrelevant awards,citations and money.Nothing else sweety.

  88. The Reason says:

    Ok. These 3 posts really made me laugh.

    The last thing I care about is your little opinion on CELINE DION. I only care about Facts such as certifications and you miserably failed to show them or make sense like before. So please don’t go all around talking about success when you ignore basic stuff.

    Celine only awarded about sales and tours ? Is this what you read on my lists ? Once again… No matter whether you agree or not, Celine has been awarded for her contribution, impact, voice and status as well. I feel sorry for the fact that you are unable to read the list of the awards Celine has received. Baby you are helpless. You say Celine is not awarded and then – once I bring the awards – you say that Celine doesn’t deserve these awards. I am sorry but you are a joke. xD

    I never compared Whitney to Celine in music talent. I talked about musicality (being a musician) which is quite irrelevant to producing. Go read what I said NOW. It was my answer on the dumb things you said about Celine not being a musician. Just to reply to your question…Only 6 songs Celine composed are known (she stated she has written more) and these would be Ce n’etait qu’un reve, Grand Maman, Entre Deux Monde, Don’t save it all for Christmas day, Tout pres du bonheur and she modified some lyrics on Treat Her Like A Lady. However, I NEVER boasted about Celine’s composing skills. Oh oh.

    I never blamed Wikipedia. LMAO. You were the one to say right from the
    start this site is not to be trusted. I only said that Loverboy is not among Mariah’s Platinum selling singles in Us like Wikipedia says.

    You fail, Celine is right where she belongs and sorry but she’s been awarded about her contribution to music as well. Haha xD Pressed much ?
    Mad much ? xD

    I said nothing on Guinness Records dumb dumb. I ONLY talked about the magazine lists. Hence I told you not to use these magazine lists. Did I EVER say you shouldn’t use the Guinness Records ? Hmm ? Failed to make sense again ? Anyway, you are the one to blame Guinness Records when it seems convenient so this is another seat for you. :)

    YOU ? Called ME ? Contradictory ? BAHAHAHA ! First learn how to read and then see how many times you contradict to your own words and then how many times you contradict with Mariah’s own statements, her label announcements, her awards and biographies. I don’t even mention the certifications because you don’t contradict with these…You just ignore them. Oops! :)

    Celine’s achievements beat Mariah’s and this is why Celine’s contract is more stable and bigger than Mariah’s, this is why Celine owns the biggest contract for a live entertainment deal, this is why Celine is asked to perform live in much more ceremonies, this is why Celine received the most recent career awards, this is why Celine ranks always higher than Mariah in income lists and you will deal.

    Your posts are just for the laughs.

    Girl put your dunce hat on and go back to your corner. <3

  89. TRISH says:

    _ I asked you Celine achievements,not Awards.I cited Mariah’s main Awards in 2000’s but I also give her achievements. Just admit that Celine has zero achievement and contribution in music.Only sales,awards and money.
    -If Celine won- awards for contribution and impact on music.I should receive awards for contribution and impact on music too.LMAO !!!!!

    -This is stupid to cite Celine’s amateur songs composed.Why just 2 songs among so many songs and albums? This is because Sony know she’s very amateur on this.So they prefer give her songs composed exclusively by other artists.So,don’t try to talk about Celine’s composing and producing skills anymore.She’s totally nil on these.
    -Don’t put words in my mouth liar ! I never said is not awarded,I said she doesn’t have concrete musical achievements out of sales and concerts.

  90. TRISH says:

    – Yes,I said that Wikipedia is not truthful about most of its articles and infos. But,your links and sources are not better than Wikipedia my dear.They are even worst than Wikipedia.

    – I never boosted about Mariah’s concerts and tours,but you keep talk about Celine’s.I do the same with Mariah’s skills and musicianship. ( composing and producing).
    -I am clear,Celine’s contributions in music are resumed by sales and money .

    _ You said that I used magazine lists for boosting Mariah’s voice.But I remind you that I didn’t give Magazine “lists” only MTV Countdown after the citations of Guinness World Records.

    -At least,Magazines lists are based on polls,votes from music lovers and critics from experts,but on what are based Celine’s awards as number 1 musician of 2000’s decade ? On what are based institutions sales lists and datas like IFPI and Mediatraffic?
    Honey,the sales question is the most delicate because,this is the most difficult thing to count album and single buyed by people all around the world.Guinness is not allowed about sales questions.
    -Vocal records are easily verifiable.

  91. TRISH says:

    Mariah’s achievements are beyond Celine’s.That’s why Mariah’s career is more stable than Celine’s.Even if Celine is still able to got success at Las Vegas.Musical achievements doesn’t resume by Las Vegas show and irrelevant awards.But before all by real achievements.

    Mariah’s career is more stable,that’s why Mariah continue to break records by her musicianship,her skills and her incredible voice.She continue to make music story thanks to her real impact,marks and contributions in music.
    Mariah has more significant awards.Celine won in 2000’s awards that Mariah won since the 1990’s.She catch up Mariah’s level by late that’s why Celine’s important awards came after Mariah’s. Mimi is the deserving Queen of Billboard.Her songs broke records even in 2000’s.Mariah is really unreachable.Celine’s ranks are higher the The Voice just because these ranks are partial. Mimi is unbeatable !!!

  92. TRISH says:

    PS: why only 2 songs among so many songs and albums? ( I refer to Celine’s international career,that’s why I don’t consider the songs where she was a Quebeker star).

  93. TRISH says:

    Celine is overrated by institutions and her fans.They can’t say 3 words without talk about her sales,incomes and tours.She has no real musical achievement.Sorry,but this is all the truth !

  94. The Reason says:

    The achievements you gave are generic jokes and you got them out of your ass. Mariah has awards about her musicianship but was NEVER awarded, NEVER acclaimed, NEVER announced to be the MOST successful female producer OR the most successful female composer/songwriter EVER. I already replied to those stupid stuff anyway. Mariah CO-writes and her albums are overproduced, hence she will never be elevated to the place you think she is. That being said she IS more talented than Celine in this field and she IS more awarded than Celine, therefore she beats Celine in these achievements. NOBODY ever denied it. Same way, Celine beats Mariah in performing. Both women took different career roads and this is why PART of their success and awards is correlated to the choices they made. Could Mariah ever be labeled ”Entertainer of New Millennium” ? No. Could Celine ever win a ”songwriter of the year” award ? No. Adding the word ”musical” in front of the word ”achievements” is rather funny when all these so called ”musical” achievements are in facts correlated to SALES
    and AIRPLAY. For instance, Mariah won songwriting awards (something you call ”musical” achievement) only for popular songs such as ”Someday”. Does this mean this song really shows the best of Mariah’s talent ? No. Songs like ”Looking In”, ”Outside”, ”Petals” and WAY MORE poetically written, but they NEVER won an award. Why ? Because these songs were not hits. So ALL Mariah’s ”musical” achievements are correlated to her SALES. Just like Celine’s awards. So don’t try to elevate Mariah where she doesn’t belong by adding the word ”musical” to her achievements. It is quite funny actually.

    Moving on… I gave awards cause you gave awards and demanded awards. I gave magazine lists cause you gave magazine lists. I don’t care about your opinion on Celine’s awards. I told this earlier. She won these, I hope you also win them someday. This will make you less pressed I guess.

    I NEVER boasted about Celine’s composing skills. You asked a question about the songs she composed and I simply replied showing the 5 songs she composed.

    Plus… At least I bring links. You can’t even post Mariah’s certified sales of her biggest singles. SAD really. However, you are still boasting about these sales. PATHETIC really. LEARN that there is nothing hard in counting sales. This is why certified sales exist and this is why music stores keep DATA of the sold albums and moreover demand new CD’s to replace the old ones. This is why it is clear to everyone how Mariah is behind Celine. And I mean EVERYONE : Labels, Biographies, Sites, Media, Awards, Mariah herself.

    As of the rest jokes you consider musical achievements I have to say that the Guinness Record was given for Mariah’s VOCAL RANGE, not for being the best singer. This is something you confound due to severe lack of knowledge. Singers like Aretha (and Barbra) slay both Celine and Mariah in all registers (except for the whistling in Mariah’s case). Not to mention they always sing live AND have superior breath control.

    And I say goodbye to you by commenting on the most laughable and
    unsupported comments you made :

    Mariah’s career more stable than Celine’s ? LMAO GIRL ! The woman who got kicked out of her label ? The woman who released 5 ENGLISH albums in 10 years that failed to sell more than 3.000.000 copies worldwide ? The woman who couldn’t sell out even in a school celebration ? The woman who doesn’t have any DVD sales the past decade ? The woman who got dumped by international awards when compared to Celine ? The woman who was dumped by all best seller lists for the past decade ? The woman whose contract with Island Def Jam is a fu**ing joke in front of Celine’s contract with SONY BMG ? The woman whose name is correlated to flop soundtracks ? The woman whose only relevance is downloaded hits ?
    The woman whose album was canceled ? The woman whose latest album received a limited worldwide released ? The woman whose latest pathetic attempt of staying relevant was selling out her signature song ? Stability in what beside single sales ? You are eliminated and really sick to think Mariah is stable. Even in Us – Mariah’s strongest market – Celine kicked her ass the past decade, except for single sales.

    Take several seats baby.

  95. Divas Live. says:

    OHHHH.. MY HOW IGNORANT TRISH IS…. to The Reason you know what its hard to keep wake-up to the ignorant person like trish that already awake. I’m sorry my English is not good but yes your right… Trish is really ignorant.

    & the winner is Celine Dion……………….
    the Queen of Highest note.
    Queen of Angelic Voice
    Queen of long notes
    A Concert Queen
    The Earner Queen
    Queen Of Las Vegas
    Queen Of Duets
    Queen Of Love
    Queen Of Ballads
    Mariah Carey is just a Queen of whistle note & a Queen of controversy.

  96. Divas Live. says:

    Celine rules…

  97. What the what?? says:

    This is still going on? Thought you would’ve quit by now TRISH, seeing how you can’t give real facts and proofs, only answer questions that are an advantage to Mariah, And how everyone’s been owning you, but you just don’t seem to understand that. You have to be fair to both singers or else you’re just being biased and are not making any progress whatsoever in trying to get all of us to agree with you.
    nerienlouper.fr/44957-indiscretions-justin-bieber-en-duo-avec-celine-dion-pour-believe/
    Something I thought was interesting and weird at the same time, but since you mentioned Justin Bieber… He talks about Celine around the end.
    Mariah’s sold more singles than Celine, but Celine’s sold more records worldwide. You just have to accept the fact that Celine’s going to be better in some areas than Mariah. She’s not perfect. Instead of bashing Celine and boasting about Mariah, try acknowledging Celine’s talents and achievements and take note that Mariah has many faults herself.
    Like Celine, for example, is nowhere near as vocally flexible as she was in the 90’s or compared to Mariah.
    Now you try.
    Am I being harsh? Or rude? No? Then don’t call me names, have another amateat fit, and insult Celine, all I said is what I saw. Take into consideration that Celine’s sold more than Mariah has.
    Mariah can sell records faster, but Celine can sell more.
    Once you realize that, you’ll probably agree that Celine HAS had a more successful career than Mariah. Critics really have nothing to do with this, because its more about the # of records sold and their popularity. Your opinion on how Mariah’s the greatest singer is your opinion, and I can’t change that, but I can change your theory that Mariah’s sold more.

    Merry Christmas! :)

  98. TRISH says:

    Blablabla…So what? Mariah’s career is more stable than Celine’s.Celine’s career is relevant only by Las Vegas show honey.Mimi slays her in everything.Celine is overrated in everything thanks to Illuminati honey.Your lies will change nothing at all.Mariah kills Celine the past decade in everything,albums sales,singles sales,hits,vocal range and performances,etc…

    This is not Guinness Worlds Records or an institution award that could make of Mariah the best singer,but her songs.Aretha and Barbra blow both Celine in all registers,not Mariah.Mariah is a huge giant vocalist next to Aretha and Barbra.Both could only dream of about singing Mariah’s songs as such : Till the end of time,Emotions,Melt away,Underneath The Stars,Fourth Of July,Mine Again,Can’t Let Go,Butterfly,Without You,The Wind,Vanishing,Whenever You call, Charlie Brown Christmas,Through The Rain,Lead The way,My saving Grace,Open Arms,O holy Night,Vision Of Love,If It’s Over,etc… Which song of Barbra or Aretha that Mariah couldn’t sing? Mariah could sing their own songs even much better than them both ??? Mariah has a better breath control than all them and she sing different notes easily with an incredible flexibility.
    Whose 5 albums of Mariah that are sell below 300.000 worldwide?
    Don’t you become tired to continue your lies like this ? Anyway,Mariah’s global sales surpass Celine’s with a respectable difference.Take it !
    Celine can’t face Mariah in anything baby.Even with Illuminati back up she has thanks to Mottola and Sony team can’t do it.
    Mimi is way better.

  99. TRISH says:

    Sorry,but Mariah is a real artist.She’s way more successful than Celine.Celine is an ok performer and her Las Vegas show is very successful,but Mariah is a musical phenomenon.The Voice wins !
    Merry Christmas and kisses !!!!!

  100. The Reason says:

    @ TRISH

    Mariah’s career is NOT stable, let alone MORE stable than Celine’s.

    Mariah is the 00s

    – 4/5 album released sold less than 4m copies worldwide, while 2 of them where released BEFORE Downloading appeared.

    – 2/3 singles she released flopped.

    – No real music Dvd sales.

    – No real tour sellouts.

    – Kicked out of her label

    – Correlated her name to flop soundtracks

    – 2/5 really panned by music critics.

    This is a stable career for you. Pathetic really.

    Aretha destroys Mariah in all registers. Connected head voice, not falsetto like MC, beltings up to D6, Mariah barely up to G#5, ability to phrase in a G2 note, more agility, more live singing, superior breath control (Mariah has an AWFUL breath control and this is evident by the fact that she chops words to make it through the songs ”there’s a ….. heeeeero… if you look… insi–ii-de…. your heart…), sense of timing, sense of rhythm, stamina and intelligence. Aretha could sing all these songs, except for the whistle parts.

    May I ask you… what vocal range do songs like Fantasy and Whenever You Call and Till the end of time cover ?

    Moreover… can you mention one legato run in Mariah’s career ?

    Third… can you name me 2 songs in which Mariah sings like 50 notes in a few seconds ?

    I want everyone to see what a dumb ignorant you are. Anyway, in Mariah’s own words she belongs to Aretha’s back up singers.

    No comment on the Illuminati crap and the rest unsupported diarrhea. You will be in position to talk about sales once you learn basic info on Mariah’s certifications. Till then Celine > Mariah. As long as you ignore BASIC stuff, repeating theories you got out of your ass makes you look retarded and pressed. Sorry. :/

    Now go back to your corner, put your dunce hat on and I will tell you when
    to take it off.

    @ Divas Live

    Just watch her being unable to reply to my simple questions. It’s so funny!

    @ what the what

    Idiots are undefeated. They insist even when they are cornered and owned.

    Sad really. :/

  101. Divas Live. says:

    hahahahahahaha.. so funny you know what trish every one has own favorite songs & singer.. you cant just compare the songs o f your Idol to any body because that was Mariah Carey’s Specialty…for example can Mariah sing more beautiful than Celine My hearth will go on, all by my self ,or its all come back to me now???? nonononono darling cos that was Celine Dion Song shes the original & The world knows that Original is better than new version you just can’t understand cos your ears are close while your mouth is open…all by myself is not Celine who first to sing but shes been popular of it according to Simon Cowell it was the song of A All time Diva.Because Shes the female version of that song. just like Mariah Carey’s Rendition of open Arms Shes the first Female who sang it after Journey & shes really amazing. Celine Dion Also sing that song & Mariah is better than Celine to sing that song \because…………………..Mariah Carey sing that song While shes only 26 years old, While Celine Dion Sing that Song at the age of 43 years old but shes really good at it too.can’t you see????? hope you notice it…..Celine Has a consistent carrier than Mariah Celine Dion Is planning for a World |Tour Again……after her Vegas Show & more over Shes going to Release a New Album a Two Album English & French just Watch & See how a true Supper Star Rule this Decade again.

    Again…………… Where is Mariah Today ???? Ans. Sleeping Everynight At home

    While Celine Still Working For Her Future of music Industries Shes still gaining more promotion ,Projects ,Etch. as i said Before Celine Rules… Again Darling……..Muah Merry Christmas Too ..My Christmas is not Complete Without An Angel Singing A Holy Night an that Angel is Celine Dion……Muah Happy New year……

  102. TRISH says:

    @ The Reason
    Cite me 1 or 2 songs of Aretha that Mariah couldn’t sing.You said that Aretha could sing Emotions,Underneath the stars,Do You Know Where You going To,If Its Over,The Wind,Mine Again. except whistle notes??? LMAOOOO !!!!!!! You dream a dream my dear ! Aretha couldn’t do even the first 10 seconds of these songs.Mariah can do everything Aretha did even much better than her.
    Mariah blow Aretha away in everything vocally,no question about it !

    Mariah’s career is MORE stable than Celine’s.Celine has only her Las Vegas show as something really successfull, everything else is citations,irrelevant awards,illuminati back up,etc…

    Celine is the 00s

    – 4/5 album released sold less than 4m copies worldwide, while all of them are promoted by endless tours and concerts.
    -Zero Number one Hit in Billboard Hot 100
    -Zero Top 10 Hit in Billboard Hot 100
    -Zero Grammy Award winning
    -Zero huge song
    – Every singles released flopped
    -Zero million seller single
    – No real music Videos sales.
    – No acting career at all unlike every major female artists.( Only a comedian career through her Las Vegas show.Lol -)

    – No part at all in composing and producing hr own songs,only performing.

    -Praised by her label thanks to incomes she grossed by her endless concerts and shows.

    – Correlated her name to clown shows.
    – A lot of irrelevants awards and citations from instituions and her label thanks to illuminati back up.
    This is what is called a stable career for you? Very great !

  103. TRISH says:

    Mariah could sing My Heart Will Go On and All By Myself way better than Celine.She wouldn’t sound nasal at all in it ! Celine’s version is the original as you said,but a cover version could be better than the original,don’t forget it !
    Mariah’s version of Open Arms would be better than Celine’s even if she sang it at 40.For example Mariah’s O Come All Ye Faithful is better than Celine’s although Celine sang it first at age 30,while Mariah’s at 40.See?

    Where is Mariah Today ???? She works hard to composing and producing songs for her next album,while Celine grossed money in Las Vegas by singing every night while other artists try hard to compose and produce songs for her 2 next albums.See the difference ?

    By the way,Mariah’s O Holy Night is the ultimate version EVER ! No matter say ignorant and haters.
    Ciaooooo !!!!

  104. TRISH says:

    @ What The What: This is you that have to be fair and admit that Mariah has sold more records worldwide than Celine.Which facts do you talk about Las Vegas show ??? I would like to know.
    What do you mean by ” everyone” ? Did you mean The Reason and you ? This is normal as Celiniacs you just defend her as well I do for Mariah.Which real facts and proofs did you give after Celine’s Las Vegas show???
    Don’t be delusional my dear,how Celine could sold more records while Mariah surpasses her in both albums and singles sales worldwide ? Because Celine has success at Las Vegas ?

    In the same way,you’re just being biased and are not making any progress whatsoever in trying to get all of us to agree with you.
    Who deny that Justin talked about Celine? Who care about it ? I mentioned Justin Bieber just to answered to a Celiniacs that said nobody wanted to sing with Mariah.So,according to you all of you are right in everything since Celine is show ahead of Mariah.I should swallow all your bullcraps.Really funny !! I never claim Mariah is perfect,I just show how she has a more successful career than Celine through her concrete sales and musical achievements.
    Mariah’s global certifications worth more sales than Celine’s although Celine has more certifications sales.Moreover,If you calculate their respective sales by continents,Mariah has the advantage.Celine sold more than Mariah is just your opinion honey.About singing,Mariah is the best singer ever ! Let their respective songs talk by themselves.Mimi wins.

    Merry Christmas to you too my dear !!!

  105. The Reason says:

    Of course Celine’s career IS stable and in facts 10 times more stable than Mariah’s. Any proof for what you just posted ? Oh no. Sorry I forgot… Anyway…

    Dear TRISH You have lost your credibility and everyone who reads your delusional, unsupported posts can see it. You say something, then you are asked about it and then you can’t reply. You will see how many times you lied and failed in this small paragraph and then you will see how you are going to be UNABLE to reply to simple questions again.

    You say Mariah outsells Celine in everything while you ignore her singles certifications. That’s a contradiction. FAIL.

    You say Mariah outsings even Aretha and while you lack music theory and vocal pedagogy knowledge. You don’t even know simple terms and can’t even reply to simple questions about notes and legato runs. That’s another contradiction. FAIL.

    Aretha could sing all the songs you cited except for the whistle parts. Go ask ANY person who knows about music. Mariah could never sing Aretha’s songs because most of them demand support in the upper belt which Mariah lacks. Mariah can’t belt Bb5s. Aretha can. Mariah can’t access the 6th octave in chest voice. Aretha can. Mariah has never really sustained any note above F5. Aretha has sustained D6 notes. Aretha managed to phrase in a G2 note at age 70. Like Mariah said ”I went to sing with the backup singers because this is where I belong”. Your only argument is ”by listening to their songs” and then putting nice adjectives to describe Mariah’s Voice. So pathetic indeed. I can play the same game. Well vocal tone is subjective and the songs you mentioned are not even difficult for Aretha like I said before. You are just uneducated. FAIL.

    Could you ever ask to these following questions ? If you can’t, then you shouldn’t talk about vocals at all. Go on girl. I challenge you again. What range do Mariah’s songs like Till The End Of Time and Whenever You Call cover ? What is mixing ? What is the difference between head voice and falsetto ? Which is the highest BELTED note in Mariah’s studio and live performances ? What is Mariah’s vocal type and what does this mean ? What is a legato run and can you bring a simple example ? Show us what an ignorant you are by not replying to simple questions. Do what you did before when you avoided simple questions on certifications and notes.

    You say Mariah has a more stable career than Celine and you support it with laughable statements you got out of your ass. Mariah doesn’t even appear in any best seller lists the past 11 years of any music market. Celine does. FAIL. Not only in tours but also in album sales. Another contradiction and huge FAIL. Celine only successful in Vegas ? In Vegas ? Is this why her Taking Chances world tour destroys all the touring of Mariah’s career ? FAIL.

    Now let me show what a fat LIAR you are…

    ”4/5 album released sold less than 4m copies worldwide, while all of them are promoted by endless tours and concerts.”

    FAIL. Celine released FOUR studio English albums. Only Taking Chances was promoted by a world tour. SECOND FAIL. A New Day Has Come and One Heart sold 11m and almost 6m copies respectively. THIRD FAIL.

    ”No real music video sales” FAIL. Her 2007 Dvd is the best selling Dvd of all time released by a female artist with sales of almost 3m copies. Her 2001 and 2010 received big certifications as well, with the second of them being #1 in Us, Canada, Uk and France. Thanx for proving your statements are big jokes.

    ”No acting career ” BAHAHAHA ! Acting career is IRRELEVANT to her success. Celine also is not a lawyer ! Celine is not a doctor ! Surprise Surprise ! I guess she is unsuccessful for that. Hahaha xD What a simple minded thought. I just can’t take these silly arguments anymore. Hahaha. How many things can you get out of your ass baby ? Being a singer doesn’t mean you are an actor. All the so called singers have never studied acting so they have nothing on Celine or the REAL actors. This is the main reason most singers are panned by critics for acting.

    ”No part at all in composing” FAIL. This has nothing to do with success and sales. This comment is correlated to her artistry and you put it on a ”success” list. FAIL. You confound things to make a point. Sad really.

    ”A lot of irrelevant awards” FAIL. At least hers are recent. Mariah can only dream of being awarded in Canada, Europe, Africa, L.America and C.Asia no matter how many lies you post about her overall success there.

    Celine in the 00s

    * 1# earning artist. Mariah nowhere.
    * 4 World Music Awards
    * Awards in Us, Canada, Europe, Uk, S.America, Africa. Mariah dumped.
    * #2 selling artist of Us in albums. Mariah dumped.
    * Biggest contract with Sony Bmg and Vegas. Mariah kicked out of her label and isn’t even the #1 name of her small label.
    *Real Dvd sales
    *Real Ticket sales
    *Real Album sales

    ONLY thing Mariah did in the 00s better than Celine was scoring 7 hits and getting Grammy awards, which Celine already had. Celine sold more albums, more dvds and more tickets than Mariah in the 00s. She got more awards than Mariah in the 00s. She also has a stable contract. In other words she has a way more stable career.

    Mariah’s 5/6 albums released sold less than 4m copies worldwide, while 2 of them where released BEFORE Downloading appeared. No real music Dvd sales. No real tour sellouts. Kicked out of her label. Correlated her name to flop soundtracks. 2/5 really panned by music critics. Duet with Bieber. I don’t even have to go on. Your comments are redundant.

    You are an ignorant. I’m sorry but I proved it. Helpless as fu**. This is why people on you tube laugh at your comments and call you sick and retarded.

    You are the Queen of LIES and FAILS. :)

    Still loving you though.

    <3

  106. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    Tell me. Tell me how I’m being biased. Did I only talk about Celine’s success? No. I actually gave constructive critism about her. Not Mariah. I said Mariah’s sold more singles but Celine’s sold more records. Is this biased? No. “Mariah sells faster but Celine sells more.” Is this biased? No. “Celine’s not nearly as vocally flexible as she was in the 90’s or compared to Mariah.” Is this biased? No. You’re just repeating what other people have said to you back at me because you can’t think of anything good or smart to say.
    You know, if you knew english at all, you’d be able to tell that what i said had nothing to do with trying to get all of you to agree with me. Really, the only one who’s continuously talked back at us for a long time is YOU. But you don’t, and I can’t do anything about it.
    Do you want to list me all of her albums, singles, etc, and the # of copies its sold? With proof?
    I bet you do, but you have no real facts and proofs to do that.

  107. TRISH says:

    – Mariah’s career is way more stable than Celine’s.Deal with it baby.
    You can continue to insult me and try to take me down,this is your job since the debut.I don’t care about it,that could change nothing in facts that Mariah’s career is more successful than Celine’s.

    -This is you that ignore Celine’s certifications as you said there is a slight difference between their respective singles sales worldwide while Mariah has two times Celine’s certified million seller singles.LMAO !!!!

    -Just cite me which song of Aretha that Mariah couldn’t sing if you dare.Mariah could sing EVERY Aretha’s songs.But Aretha could NEVER EVER sing a Mariah’s hard song.At least I cited many of Mariah’s songs that Aretha couldn’t sing unlike you.You try to impress me by your little musical knowledge,you just fail honey.I believe true musical experts that said Mariah’s voice is unique and exceptional.Don’t try to take advantage by showing your poor knowledge in music,Mariah slays Aretha,their respective songs are enough to prove it and real experts already stated on this.Nobody sings as low or as high as Mariah.You can babbling your theories for yourself and your pride allies.
    You said that Aretha could sing Emotions,You’re So Cold,Melt Away,O Holy Night,Charlie Brown Christmas,Vanishing,My saving Grace,Against All Odds,Mine Again,etc…Objective people can see who among you and me lie.

  108. TRISH says:

    You said Celine is more stable than Mariah with citations,Las Vegas show as supports.
    You said that Mariah doesn’t even appear in any best seller lists the past 11 years of any music market.Mariah’s Charmbracelet and The Emancipation Of Mimi are respectively 6 and 12 million sales.
    You just give me reason when I said that institutions take Mariah’s achievements down while Celine’s are highly overrated.Why Mariah didn’t appear in 2006 best seller lists while TEOM was the best selling album of 2005-2006 ? This is only Celine that deserve to be listed for a best-seller album?
    Can you explain to me why those partialities???

    Answer: Illuminati back up Celine’s achievements while it try to destroy Mariah’s and reduce them.
    Every Celine’s albums and DVD are promoted by her endless tours, concerts and Las Vegas show,not only by the Taking Chances tour.

  109. TRISH says:

    Yes,Celine is not a doctor.But all important divas have or had an acting career,no matter if they got success or not it .Barbra Streisand,Madonna,Mariah Carey,Whitney Houston,Britney Spears,Beyonce Knowles,etc. already make movies.Celine? Only pull and faces on stage…Lol !
    Yes,Celine got Awards in these countries because she’s a great clown that amuse people on stage in her tours on thoses part.But that doesn’t mean her sales surpass Mariah’s.Can you just tell me how many hits she has in these countries ???
    Mariah’s Millenium Award is enough to slays any and every local awards that Celine could ever win till the next 989 years !

  110. TRISH says:

    Just prove that Celine worth something in the last decade out of incomes that are grossed by her Las Vegas show and concerts.
    Yes,Celine became the number 1 of Sony team only after that Mariah left that label.Mariah belongs to a small label as you said,but that change nothing in her talent,her skills,her success and popularity.Celine can get huge thanks to the prestige of Sony,that’s why they try hard to put her above of Mariah since Mimi left Mottola and the Label.Mottola is a Illuminati mentor,he owns huge power in music industry.This is not for nothing that every Celine’s achievements are multiply by 10 while every Mariah’s are divide by 10 by institutions and medias.Celine is not more than an overrated artists.She’s very far to got Mariah’s successes in facts !

  111. TRISH says:

    You LIE !!!!!! Mariah’s albums that sold less than 4 million came after TEOM ! Besides,Celine’s One Heart doesn’t reach 6 million.All others are behind 4 million sales.Don’t dream honey.
    Mimi rules.
    Happy Holidays !!!

  112. TRISH says:

    @ What the what : If you are not biased,how could you say that Celine has sold more records than Mariah?
    -As you accept Mariah has sold more singles,can you give me Celine’s album sales per continent?
    You ask me proofs and certifications.But,if you’re really objective answer this simple question.
    The 1990 decade is the most successful for both divas, who among Mariah or Celine has sold most albums worldwide in that decade?
    Which difference between them both?

    The 2000’s is the less successful decade for both divas who among both has sold the most albums? Which difference between them both?

  113. The Reason says:

    @ QUEEN OF FAILS

    1) GENERIC COMMENT

    Celine’s career is more stable cause she kept selling her albums, tickets, dvds and got more recent awards. On top of that her contracts and income and status are bigger than Mariah’s. Celine’s career is more successful than Mariah’s. Mariah doesn’t have double single certifications worldwide and you were already questioned about it and failed. You look like an idiot to post random, unsupported comparisons when you don’t even know the certifications of We Belong Together. FAIL.

    2) VOCAL PEDAGOGY

    Vocal pedagory is a SCIENCE that stands WAY ABOVE your delusional theories on singing. Your arguments on vocals are the most ridiculous thing I ever read in my whole life. I have met many idiots but nobody could ever reach your stupidity. That being said… Aretha could sing all Mariah’s songs. I told you earlier that most of Aretha’s songs reach the 6th octave in chest voice and require belting ability in that area. For instance the song Respect. You are such an imbecile to talk with me about vocals when you know sh** on music theory. ”At least I cited many of Mariah’s songs that Aretha couldn’t sing unlike you” Who told you Aretha couldn’t sing these songs ? Who lied to you ? You said Aretha couldn’t sing ”If It’s Over” which is a SOUL song. Sit down NOW. The highest belted note in this song is a F#5. Do you know what F#5 is ? It is a note in the 5th octave! How come Aretha couldn’t sing this song when she has many songs where her beltings reach the 6th octave and is known to be the Queen of Soul ? This alone proves what an ignorant you are. I am not trying to impress you with these. You are too simple minded to understand that you have to know about music theory and vocal pedagory in order to see the capabilities of a singer. Liking some songs is IRRELEVANT to singing.
    ”I believe true musical experts that said Mariah’s voice is unique and exceptional” What an ignorant you are. Voice is not correlated to singing. FAIL. Either way nobody said Mariah isn’t a good vocalist. Praises mean nothing. If praises where important that would mean Christina is an excellent singer. SECOND FAIL. Either way many people also praised Aretha. Have you ever heard the praises of Aretha’s unreachable skills ? Have you ever seen Celine, Mariah, Whitney praising Aretha ? Oh and I don’t have poor knowledge at all. My brain, knowledge and education SLAY yours. You are a big lunatic who can’t think to save her life and only knows how to avoid questions. You are not in position to post judgements on my knowledge. The last thing I need is a simpleton like you to validate my far superior education. Moving on, I don’t give a fu** on what you think about Mariah’s vocal TONE. A song is created by NOTES. Can Aretha belt the notes Mariah belted ? YES. Can Mariah belt the notes Aretha belted ? NO. Besides Aretha can sing as low as Mariah, but no higher cause she doesn’t whistle. FAIL. Go on girl. Tell me what’s hard with Mariah’s ”Against All Odds” ? What makes it unreachable for Aretha in terms of singing technique ? Go on. I replied to all your nonsense. Your turn now. Time to FAIL again.

    3) SALES

    Mariah did appear in best seller lists in 2006 for TEOM and also received WMA for this album. FAIL. What I said is that she didn’t appear in decade-end lists which is true.

    Charmbracelet 6.000.000 ? Really love ? Why ? Because its certified sales stand at 1.7m worldwide ? Then I guess Taking Chances sold 10.000.000 worldwide because it gets 2.5m certified sales in world’s biggest markets and I also guess that Mariah’s E=MC2 sold 6.000.000 worldwide cause its certified sales stand at 1.5m too. PATHETIC FAIL.

    Illuminati comments and your opinion is IGNORED. Go spread that bullcrap to your friends and idiots. I am none of these things and I am only going to reply into established facts : certifications, awards and vocal pedagogy facts. NEXT.

    NONE of Celine’s 00s albums was promoted by tours. FAIL. Her shows was in Vegas alone. She didn’t tour the world and the biggest part of the track list included her 90s hits. FAIL.

    DEAD at your little brain thinking Britney and Madonna are important divas. FAIL. Besides, Celine was busy doing what none of these non-factos could do.

    ”Can you just tell me how many hits she has in these countries ???”

    FAIL. Why don’t you move your fatass to bring something here for a change ? Celine destroys Mariah in sales in Oceania, Africa, Canada, Europe and S.America and you will deal. Hit songs don’t mean more record sales. FAIL. The album Mariah Carey scored 4 #1 in Us and Falling Into You only 1 #1 hit but Mariah Carey is 9xP there while Falling Into You is 11xP. Don’t make random correlations. But her ! Random correlations and lies are your only weapons. So… FAIL.

    Mariah’s award is already dumped by Celine’s following awards. FAIL

    ”Just prove that Celine worth something in the last decade out of incomes
    that are grossed by her Las Vegas show and concerts.”

    Pathetic little troll. Your inability to read is SHOCKING.

    *Celine was among the best sellers in ALBUM sales in Us, Canada, Europe, Africa.
    *Celine sold huge amount of Dvds in 2001, 2010 and mostly in 2007.
    *Celine won several career awards, not just local awards.
    *Celine was asked to perform more times in all significant ceremonies.
    *Celine co-wrote A FEW songs but still did well in french charts and one them was awarded.
    *Celine also got awards for her impact and performing skills, not just sales.
    NEXT.

    ”Mariah belongs to a small label as you said,but that change nothing in her talent,her skills,her success and popularity.”

    When did I say Mariah’s new label affects her talent and skills ? FAIL.

    ”Mottola is a Illuminati mentor,he owns huge power in music industry”

    Oh really ? You don’t say. Well… Celine was not the one to give him blowjobs. :)

    ”You LIE !!!!!! Mariah’s albums that sold less than 4 million came after
    TEOM ! Besides,Celine’s One Heart doesn’t reach 6 million.
    All others are behind 4 million sales.Don’t dream honey.
    Mimi rules.”

    So One Heart doesn’t reach 6m but Charmbracelet does ? Helpless cow.
    Let me own you one more time. One Heart is 2xP in Us, 1xP Europe, Gold Japan, 3xP Canada, 1xP Australia which means it gets 3.500.000 certified sales from these markets. It SLAYS Charmbracelet whose certified sales stand BELOW the 2.000.000. mark. FAIL.

    Do you see how PATHETIC you are ? LIAR !

    Do you see you CAN’T reply to the questions I post ?

    Do you see you know SH** on music and vocals ? You replied to 0 Questions. FAIL.

    #ELIMINATED #SLAYED #DRAGGED #DESTROYED

    Don’t even dare to reply back unless you get a brain and some credibility.

  114. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    That is not being biased
    Biased – When you systematically claim something that gives an advantage to you/something or someone you support
    What I’ve said has not been biased, since I have not only talked about Celine’s success and Mariah’s failures.
    But you, you talk about Mariah’s success while you claim to be giving us real facts by calling Celine names and only insulting her. And by the way, your insults are not constructive.
    Why are you asking me to give you sales? Why are you asking everyone who’s supporting Celine to give you sales, when they’re the ones asking YOU to give it to them. Because you have no real facts to prove that Mariah’s had more success than Celine. Until you give it to me, I will not give you mine. (I’m repeating what you’ve been doing for the past 2 years.) But I will tell you this, and that is that Mariah has sold more singles than Celine, by about 5 million (i’m pretty sure), and Celine’s sold more albums, by about a 30 million margin. But if you think I’m wrong, prove it to me by giving me REAL sales with REAL proof.
    Do you have any real arguments for the fact that she’s gotten many awards and is paid so much besides saying that she makes clown faces, quote “LOL”? Because I know that’s not the reason and I’m sure you know for a fact that that’s not true. You just can’t admit that people actually go to see her in concert for her voice.

  115. The Reason says:

    @ what the what

    Agreed.

    Celine : 178m Album sales, 47m Single sales, 5m Dvds, 12m tickets.

    Mariah : 150m Album sales, 55m Single sales, 3m Dvds, … oh well.

    TRISH is mad because people spend money to see Celine live for her god given VOICE and performing talent, while they dump Mariah’s cheap pre recorded concerts even if they are held in little stadiums of 2.500 capacity. Hence, she is mad and insults Celine. We are not mad to insult Mariah because we know Celine is superior.

    For what I said check Mariah Journal and Celine Dion Chart and Sales.
    They are VERY detailed and agree with their respective labels, announcements, awards, biographies, BILLBOARD and media info.

  116. Divas Live. says:

    @ The Reason
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. YES You right Shes really funny She cant even Answer your question directly. She didn’t even know what kind of notes Mariah Carey use in particular song…hahahahaha She’s keep on using diversionary technique & land to another subject hahahahha.. i almost vomit i cant help but to hahahahahahahaha….

    Anyway …….. Recently I was amaze by Celine Dion Sang \summertime at telethon wow…………wow……she’s really good in jazz & classic music…Mariah Carey Cant do that ….I cant hear her voice nowadays she really did not taking care of her voice….its so sad a legendary like her were almost drowning nowadays only Celine Dion Can still go on for the future in this world of music industries … long live CELINE….. i feel like im soaring when she sing You & I….wow…..

  117. TRISH says:

    Mariah’s career is more stable than Celine’s cause she kept selling her albums,singles and got more important awards.Moreover Mariah had Hits,vocal records,icon Songs.
    Mariah is a real artist who doesn’t grossed money and ruin her voice every night while other artists create and produce entirely songs for her next albums.Celine is a lucrative machine and a puppet created by Sony.Mariah is also an actress,a model,a musician, a songwriter and producer her status are bigger than Celine’s.You look so silly by posting biased and senseless craps .
    FAIL !

  118. TRISH says:

    Who lied to me about Aretha couldn’t If It’s Over??? Answer: Aretha’s songs since I never heard an Aretha’s song that could rivalize with Mariah’s If It’s Over.You can say F5, F7 or blablabla…They are just biased interpretations to cheat who doesn’t have musical knowledge.Just cite me the song in which she outsing Mariah in “If It’s Over” if you can.
    By the way, I give a sh** about your musical pedagogy and knowledge.Real experts already state about Mariah’s unreachable voice.Go and show your theories and musical knowledge out of this blog.You’re just a laughable Celine fanatic.
    Mariah just kills Aretha.
    FAIL

  119. TRISH says:

    Aretha’s “Respect”??? Hahaha ! This is so laughable.You’d better clean up your ears sweety.Aretha doesn’t reach Mariah’s If It’s Over notes in this song.Continue to search.You suck with your “music pedagogy” .Mimi slays Aretha.
    FAIL

  120. TRISH says:

    What is hard in Mariah’s Against All Odds??? Curious answer from an “musical expert” as you.Lol !!!!!
    Aretha can only dream to sing the last part of this song when Mariah sang… CAUSE I”LL ( still be standing (standing here)
    AND YOU COMING BACK TO ME IS AGAINST ALL ODDS THAT’S THE CHANCE I’VE GOT TO TAKE.
    No matter how musical experts or “music pedagogy” call these notes,but nobody could sing this part as high and as powerful as those Mariah’s notes,even Whitney can’t,neither Aretha.

  121. TRISH says:

    This is you that said Mariah didn’t appears in any best-seller list these 11 last years.So,these”decade end-lists” appears since the 11 last years???
    Anyway,those lists are clearly partials.You are not enough to clear them.
    Certifications sales are biased by institutions because of the Illuminati.

    Celine’s 2000 decade albums are all promoted by A New Day Show.Otherwise,If Celine doesn’t got popular songs in any of the countries you mentioned whereas she is so praised and received awards.So why do people buyed her albums and awarded her ???

  122. TRISH says:

    Mariah destroys Celine in sales in Oceania, US, Japan, Asia and S.America and you will deal.Tours and concerts doesn’t mean more record sales. FAIL.
    You said :”Celine was among the best sellers in ALBUM sales in Us, Canada, Europe, Africa.” (This is a sales achievements,an artists can accomplish huge musical achievements out of sales.)
    *Celine sold huge amount of Dvds in 2001, 2010 and mostly in 2007. ( Sales again FAIL)
    *Celine won several career awards, not just local awards.( For which achievement ? Surely for sales or incomes. FAIL)
    *Celine was asked to perform more times in all significant ceremonies ( What is the achievement in it? Organizators can chose whoever they want to,what could mean,is the quality of the performances. FAIL )
    *Celine co-wrote A FEW songs but still did well in french charts and one them was awarded.( LMAOOOOOO !!!!!!! Really laughable,this is a shame for you to cite that here !!!! just cite me 3 or 4 among them for an artists that already spent 21 years to sing international music and sold so many million of albums. FAIL)
    *Celine also got awards for her impact and performing skills ( Ok,she’s a great performer but which concrete impact in the music industry do you talk about ?),
    Only performance can be mentioned for Celine as achievement out of sales and incomes.
    How she could surpass Mariah with these ??? How do you could say she has a more successful career than Carey ? Who look subjective ?

  123. TRISH says:

    @ What the what: As you can’t answer to me questions,why did you ask me proofs if you don’t have proofs yourself to give?
    By the way,I remind you this the debate doesn’t concern only sales,but every achievements.So,you can prove your objectivity by saying who among Celine or Mariah has a more successful career.

  124. TRISH says:

    @ The reason, which proof you got about Celine doesn’t give blowjob to Mottola? maybe Mariah gave blowjobs to Mottola,but what is wrong in it? Since she married him.
    Celine gave blowjobs Rene Angelil and till today she continue to do it. although he’s completely flabby.Beurk… !!! Even Viagra can’t help Rene…LOL ! -)))
    Anyway,Mariah is not the one that Mottola manipulate as a polite puppet !

  125. TRISH says:

    Celine : 150m Album sales, 30m Single sales, 5m Dvds, 4 Number 1 Hits in Billboard Hot 100
    Mariah : 180m Album sales, 70m Single sales, 3m Dvds,18 Number Hits in Billboard Hot 100 … .

    The Reason is frustrated because people praise Mariah’s SUBLIME and UNREACHABLE voice and talent.Then buy her albums and singles.Even Celine’s expensive and successful clown shows can’t face Mariah’s skills as hitmaker,songwriter and producer.Celine’s pre recorded concerts got successes thanks to her clown attitude and pull faces.Lambs are not frustrated about Celine’s success at Las Vegas because we know Mariah is light years superior and slays Celine in everything else out pull faces and clowning….

    For what I said check Mariah Journal and Celine Dion Chart and Sales.
    They are VERY detailed and agree with their respective labels, announcements, awards, biographies, BILLBOARD and media info.

  126. TRISH says:

    “For what I said check Mariah Journal and Celine Dion Chart and Sales.
    They are VERY detailed and agree with their respective labels, announcements, awards, biographies, BILLBOARD and media info.”
    Yes,these sources are biased by illuminati.Even Mariah’s label swallow illuminati’s official datas for prevent them to kill Mariah.We already know that you agree with Illuminati since it pull Celine above everyone.

  127. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    I only gave you sales because YOU asked me to. Reread what you posted before trying to “own” me.
    Really? You’re resorting to talking bout their sex life to make Mariah better? You really should leave, because that has nothing to do with their success and no one cares. But even if she did, like you said, “but what is wrong in it? Since she married him.”
    You just made a bigger fool out of yourself than ever before. So what if The Reason said anything about it. You’re the one making fun about it, when you know they’re not true, but you had to say it because you had nothing else to say about it. And how do you know these sources are “biased by Illuminati.”? Because you can’t accept it?
    If you “lambs” are not frustrated, why are you here? You said lambs know Mariah is far superior, so why do you need to talk back at us and make fun of something irrelevant to this discussion?

  128. The Reason says:

    @ QUEEN OF FAILS AND COPY PASTED COMMENTS

    1) If It’s Over is a SOUL song and Aretha was, is and will be a SOUL singer, the QUEEN OF SOUL. The F#5 is a biased interpetation ? No girl. It is the highest belted note in this song and Aretha could belt this and many notes above that.

    *Reach Out and Touch
    *Are You Leaving Me
    *Jump are 3 Aretha’s songs in which she belts notes from the SIXTH octave. Mariah has NEVER came close to that, not even in studio where
    her highest chest note is A5 which is in the FIFTH octave. You wanna know which Mariah songs reach the belted A5 note ? Circles and Fly Like A Bird. Go ask ANY lamb or musician to tell you about it and you will see that I am right and that I know what I am talking about.

    ”By the way, I give a sh** about your musical pedagogy and knowledge.”

    You were the one to comment on my education before baby, so now don’t
    change your own statements by saying you don’t care about it. If you don’t care about it, then don’t talk about it. FAIL.

    The point you mentioned in Against All Odds is a simple Eb5 and E5 note. EVERY vocalist has sang this note, even Aguilera. FAIL.

    Mariah didn’t ruin her voice by performing ? You are right. Agreed.
    She ruined her voice by her unhealthy singing style, vocal nodules,
    alcohol and because she stopped vocal lessons in late 90s. These are the reasons she strains on simple songs like Touch my body and Obsessed. This is the reason she runs out of breath in simple soft verses of songs such as Hero and I’ll be there. She could never ruin her voice by live singing since she mostly uses playback. #Next.

    2) Celine’s career is more stable cause she kept selling her albums, tickets, dvds and got more recent awards. On top of that her contracts and income and status are bigger than Mariah’s. Celine’s career is more successful than Mariah’s. Mariah doesn’t have double single certifications worldwide and you were already questioned about it and failed. You look like an idiot to post random, unsupported comparisons when you don’t even know the certifications of We Belong Together.

    Your opinion on CELINE DION is IGNORED, your insultes are IGNORED
    as well. I don’t have time to teach you how to behave when your parents have obviously failed in this department.

    Let’s move on to the rest unsupported things you posted about sales :

    * Mariah doesn’t appear in best sellers lists of the past decade because
    she FLOPPED. Deal with it. Her only successful album is TEOM and
    she scored 6-7 good selling hits and this is why one of these songs
    (We Belong Together) made it to the decade-end lists. So how
    come these lists are partial when they award her good moments ? FAIL.

    * The 00s songs that were sang in Celine’s show were : A new day has come, I’m Alive, I drove all night and I Surrender. These are 4 tracks in a list of 16 songs. So how come she was promoting her 00s albums with this LOCAL show ? FAIL.

    * ”If Celine doesn’t got popular songs in any of the countries you mentioned whereas she is so praised and received awards.So why do people buyed her albums and awarded her ???”

    Pathetic little question. Celine has popular songs in her good selling markets and she has also visited these countris with several of her tours. Are you saying that Celine doesn’t have hits and #1 albums in Uk, France, Canada, Africa ? This is just nonsense. Guess what ? FAIL.

    * Celine destroys Mariah in Oceania, S.America and you will deal. I never said concerts mean more sales. FAIL. #Next

    * I posted all these sales achievements because you asked : ”what else did Celine achieve except for touring and ticket sales ?” Therefore I mentioned her awards and album, dvd sales as well. FAIL. Either way the so called musical achievements are ALWAYS correlated to prormotion, marketing, sales and airplay and I explained this later in details. FAIL.

    3) SINGLES CERTIFICATIONS (I mention only the physically released singles of their careers. Radio/promotional singles are irrelevant because they are not sold.)

    * MARIAH CAREY…

    1.Vision Of Love

    Gold in Us (500k), Gold in Australia (35k), Gold in N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified sales : 540k
    ——————————-

    2.Love Takes Time

    Gold in Us (500k)

    Certified sales : 500k
    ——————-

    3.Someday

    Gold in Us (500k)

    Certified sales : 500k
    ———————

    4.I Don’t Wanna Cry

    Certified sales : –
    —————————-

    5.There’s Gotta Be A Way

    Certified sales : –
    —————————–

    6.Emotions

    Gold in Us (500k), Australia (35k), N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified sales : 540k
    ——————————

    7.Can’t Let Go

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————-

    8.Make It Happen

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————–

    9.I’ll Be There

    Gold in Us (500k), Australia (35k), N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified sales : 540k
    ——————————–

    10.Dreamlover

    Platinum in Us (1m), Gold in Australia (35k), Gold in N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified sales : 1.040.000
    —————————————

    11.Hero

    Platinum in Us (1m), Platinum in Australia (35k), Sylver in France (150k)

    and Gold in N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified sales : 1.2m
    ——————————————

    12.Without You

    Gold in Us (500k), Platinum in Australia (70k),

    Gold in France (200k), Platinum in Germany (500k),

    Platinum in Netherlands (100k)

    Gold in N.Zeland (5k)

    Gold in Switzerland (50k)

    Gold in Uk (200k)

    Certified sales : 1.7m
    ———————————————

    13.Anytime You Need A Friend

    Gold in N.Zeland

    Certified sales : 5k
    ———————————————-

    14.Endless Love

    Gold in Us (500k), Platinum in Australia (70k), Gold in N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified sales : 575k
    ———————————————

    15.All I Want For Christmas Is You

    2xPlatinum in Us (2m), Million Japan (1m), Platinum in Australia (70k),

    Gold in Uk (200k), Gold in Denmark (50k) , Gold in Italy (50k)

    Certified sales : 3.4m
    ———————————————-

    16.Fantasy

    2xPlatinum in Us (2m), Platinum in Australia (70k)

    Silver in France (150k), Platinum in N.Zeland (10k),

    Silver in Uk (150k)

    Certified sales : 2.4m
    —————————————————-

    17.One Sweet Day

    2xPlatinum in Us (2m), Platinum in Australia (70k)

    Silver in France (150k), Silver in Uk (150k),

    Platinum in N.Zeland (10k), Platinum in Norway (50k)

    Certified sales : 2.5m
    ——————————————————

    18.Open Arms

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————-

    19.Honey

    Platinum in Us (1m) and Gold in Australia (35k)

    Certified sales : 1.035.00
    ———————————————————

    20.My All

    Platinum in Us (1m), Silver in France (150k)

    Certified sales : 1.150.000
    ———————————————————–

    21.When You Believe

    Gold in Us (500k), Gold in Australia (50k), Gold in France (200k),

    Gold in Germany (250k), Platinum in Belgium (50k),

    Platinum in Norway (50k), Platinum in Sweeden (50k)

    Platinum in Switzerland (100k)

    Certified sales : 1.250.000
    ————————————————————

    22.I Still Believe

    Platinum in Us (1m)

    Certified Sales : 1m
    ————————————————————-

    23.Heartbreaker

    Gold in Us (500k), Platinum in Australia (70k), Gold in France (200k),

    Platinum in N.Zeland (10k)

    Certified sales : 780k
    ————————————————————–

    24.Thank God I Found You

    Gold in Us (500k)

    Certified sales : 500k
    ————————————————————-

    25.Crybaby/Can’t Take That Away

    Certified sales : –
    ————————————————————-

    26.Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now)

    Sylver in Uk (150k)

    Certified sales : 150k
    ————————————————————–

    27.Loverboy

    Gold in Us (500k), Gold in Australia (35k)

    Certified sales : 535k
    ————————————————————–

    28.Never Too Far/Hero Medley

    Certified sales : –
    —————————————————————

    29.Through The Rain

    Gold in Canada (50k)

    Certified sales : 50k
    —————————————————————

    30.Boy (I Need You)

    Certified Sales : –
    ————————————————————-

    31.Bringing On The Heartbreak

    Certified sales : –
    ————————————————————-

    32.I Know What You Want

    Gold in Australia (35k) and Gold in N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified sales : 40k
    ——————————————————————

    33.You Make Me Wanna

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————

    34.It’s Like That

    Gold in Us (500k), Gold in Australia (35k)

    Certified sales : 535k
    ——————————————————————-

    35.We Belong Together

    Platinum in Us (1m), Platinum in Australia (70k), N.Zeland (10k)

    Certified sales : 1.1m
    ——————————————————————-

    36.Shake It Off/Get Your Number

    Gold in Us (500k) and Gold in Australia (35k)

    Certified sales : 535k
    ——————————————————————-

    37.Don’t Forget About Us

    Gold in Us (500k)

    Certified sales : 500k
    ——————————————————————-

    38.Say Something

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————

    39.Fly Like A Bird

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————

    40.Touch My Body

    Platinum in Us (1m), Japan Gold (100k)

    Certified sales : 1.1m
    ——————————————————————-

    41.Bye Bye

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————-

    42.I’ll be loving you long time

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————-

    43.I Stay In Love

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————

    44.Obsessed

    Platinum in Us (1m), Australia Gold (35k)

    Certified sales : 1.035.000
    ——————————————————————

    45.I Want To Know What Love Is

    Platinum in Brazil (60k)

    Certified sales : 60k

    ——————————————————————

    46.Up Out My Face

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————-

    47.Angels Cry

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————

    48.O Santa

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————–

    49.Lil Love

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————–

    50.My Love

    Certified sales : –
    ——————————————————————–

    CONCLUSIONS :

    1) Total Certified Single Sales : 26.900.000

    2) The rest singles like If It’s Over, Joy To The World, Forever, Underneath The Stars, Butterfly, Breakdown, The Roof, Hateu and 100% (and more) were released on radios ONLY. Therefore they didn’t sell copies.

    3) 20 from the 50 singles were NOT certified in ANY market. Do you still
    believe Mariah is a strong single seller after that ? :/

    & MARIAH’S SINGLE SALES DOCUMENTATION

    1994: Mariah was presented with an award for sales of over 55 million albums and singles worldwide, (Estimated: 45 million albums and 13.7 million singles) 1998: Mariah said HERSELF in an interview with Vibe Magazine that Emotions sold about 10 million records worldwide (when artists say ‘records’ they usually mean albums and singles, Mariah said she sold 150+ million albums and singles in 2001, which we know were albums and singles). Emotions officially sold 8 million albums, so she sold 2 million singles from the Emotions album. 2001: At the signing of Mariah’s contract with Virgin/EMI records and Mariah’s official site during that era, Mariah had sold more than 150 million albums and singles. (Estimated: 116.5 million albums and 36 million singles) worldwide. 2005: Mariah said HERSELF in an interview with CNN’s ‘Showbiz Tonight’, that she sold 30+ million records with from one album (Music Box).

    ——>

    * CELINE DION…

    01.D’Amour Ou D’Amitie

    Gold in France (500k) and Gold in Canada (50k)

    Certified Sales : 550k (Certification Levels were higher in the 80s in France)
    ——————————-

    02.Une Colombe

    Gold in Canada (50k)

    Certified Sales : 50k
    —————————–

    03.Ne Partez Pas Sans Moi

    Certified Sales : –
    ——————————-

    04.(If There Was) Any Other Way

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————

    05.Unison

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————

    06.Where Does My Heart Beat Now

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————

    07.The Last To Know

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————

    08.Beauty And The Beast

    Gold in Us (500k), Platinum in Japan (200k)

    Certified Sales : 700k
    ———————————-

    09.If You Asked Me To

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————

    10.Nothing Broken But My Heart

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————-

    11.Love Can Move Mountains

    Certified Sales : –
    ————————————

    12.Un Garcon Pas Comme Les Autres (Ziggy)

    Gold in France (200k)

    Certified Sales : 200k
    ————————————

    13.L’Amour Existe Encore

    Certified Sales : –
    ————————————

    14.Water From The Moon

    Certified Sales : –
    ————————————

    15.When I Fall In Love

    Certified Sales : –
    ————————————

    16.The Power Of Love

    Platinum in Us (1m), Sylver in France (150k),

    Platinum in Australia (70k), Gold in N.Zeland (5k)

    Certified Sales : 1.2m
    ————————————–

    17.Misled

    Certified Sales : –
    —————————-

    18.Think Twice

    2xPlatinum (600k), Gold in Netherlands (50k),

    Platinum in Australia (70k)

    Certified Sales : 720k
    —————————–

    19.Only One Road

    Certified Sales : –
    ——————————–

    20.Calling You

    Certified Sales : –
    ——————————-

    21.Pour Que Tu M’Aimes Encore

    Diamond in France (1m)

    Certified Sales : 1m
    ——————————–

    22.Je Sais Pas

    Sylver in France (150k)

    Certified Sales : 150k
    ———————————

    23.To Love You More

    Million in Japan (1m)

    Certified Sales : 1m
    ———————————

    24.Falling Into You

    Sylver France (150k), Sylver Uk (150k)

    Certified Sales : 300k
    ———————————-

    25.Because You Loved Me

    Platinum in Us (1m), Platinum in N.Zeland (10k),

    2xPlatinum in Australia (140k), Gold in Germany (250k)

    and Sylver in Uk (150k)

    Certified Sales : 1.5m
    ———————————–

    26.It’s All Coming Back To Me Now

    Platinum in Us (1m), Gold in Australia (35k),

    Gold in N.Zeland (5k), Sylver in Uk (150k)

    Certified Sales : 1.2m
    ———————————–

    27.The Power Of The Dream

    Gold in Japan (100k)

    Certified Sales : 100k
    ————————————

    28.J’Attendais

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————-

    29.All By Myself

    Gold in Us (500k), Sylver in Uk (150k), Sylver in France (150k)

    Certified Sales : 800k
    ———————————-

    30.Call The Man

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————

    31.Tell Him

    Platinum in Belgium (50k), Platinum in Netherlands (70k),

    Gold in Uk (200k), Gold in France (200k), Gold in Australia (35k),

    Gold in Switzerland (25k). Gold in Norway (20k)

    Certified Sales : 650k
    ———————————

    32.Be The Man

    Platinum in Japan (200k)

    Certified Sales : 200k
    ———————————

    33.My Heart Will Go On

    Diamond France (1m), 4xPlatinum in Germany (2m),

    3xPlatinum in Belgium (150k), 2xPlatinum in Australia (140k)

    2xPlatinum in Japan (400k),

    2xPlatinum in Netherlands (150k)

    2xPlatinum in Norway (50k)

    2xPlatinum in Sweeden (50k)

    2xPlatinum in Uk (600k)

    Platinum in Greece (50k), Gold Austria (25k)

    Gold in Us (500k)

    Certified Sales : 5.2m
    ——————————–

    34.Immortality

    Platinum in Germany (500k), Sylver in France (150k),

    Sylver in Uk (150k), 1xGold in Sweden (10k)

    Certified Sales : 800k
    ———————————

    35.Zora Sourit

    Gold in Belgium (25k) , Sylver in France (150k)

    Certified Sales : 175k
    ———————————–

    36.I’m Your Angel

    Platinum in Us (1m), 1xGold Australia (35k),

    1xSylver in Uk (150k)

    Certified Sales : 1.2m
    ————————————-

    37.S’il Suffisait D’Aimer

    Gold in Belgium (25k) and Gold In France (200k)

    Certified Sales : 225k
    —————————————

    38.On Ne Change Pas

    Sylver in France (150k)

    Certified Sales : 150k
    ————————————–

    39.Treat Her Like A Lady

    Certified Sales : –
    ————————————-

    40.That’s The Way It Is

    Platinum in Sweden (20k), Gold in Australia (35k)

    Gold in Germany (250k), Sylver in France (150k),

    Gold in Belgium (25k)

    Certified Sales : 500k
    ———————————–

    41.Live (For The One I Love)

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————–

    42.I Want You To Need Me

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————-

    43.The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————-

    44.Sous Le Vent

    Diamond in France (750k), 1xPlatinum Belgium (50k)

    1xPlatinum Switzerland (40k)

    Certified Sales : 840k
    ————————————

    45.A New Day Has Come

    Gold in Australia (35k), Greece (20k), Us (500k) and Norway (10k)

    Certified Sales : 565k
    ———————————

    46.I’m Alive

    Platinum in Belgium (25k), Gold in France (200k)

    Certified Sales : 225k
    ———————————

    47.Goodbye (The Saddest Word)

    Certified Sales : –
    ——————————–

    48.I Drove All Night

    Gold in Australia (35k), Platinum in Belgium (50k)

    Certified Sales : 85k
    ———————————

    49.One Heart

    Certified Sales : –
    ———————————

    50.Tout L’Or Des Hommes

    Sylver in France (150k)

    Certified Sales : 150k
    ——————————

    51.Je T’Aime Encore

    Certified Sales : –
    —————————–

    52.Je Ne Vous Oublie Pas

    Sylver in France (150k)

    Certified Sales : 150k
    —————————-

    53.Tous Les Secrets

    Certified Sales : –
    —————————

    54.I Believe In You (Je Crois Toi)

    Certified Sales : –
    —————————

    55.Et S’il N’en Restait Qu’une (Je Serais Celle-La)

    Certified Sales : –
    ————————–

    56.Taking Chances

    Gold in Canada (20k)

    Certified Sales : 20k
    —————————

    57.My Love

    Certified Sales : –
    —————————
    1) Total Certified Single sales : 20.600.000

    Are you still dreaming Mariah sold 70.000.000 singles when her certified sales stand at 26.900.000 ? Are you still dreaming that Mariah sold 40m singles more than Celine when their difference in certified sales stands at 6.000.000 ?

    Go put your dunce hat NOW. I am still laughing at you for saying Charmbracelet sold 6m when its certified sales stand at 1.5m and then saying One Heart sold less than 6m when its certified sales reach the 3.5m mark. Biased much ? Ignorant much ? Uneducated much ?

    Answer : Yes. Yes. Yes.

    #OWNED.

    @ Divas Live

    Isn’t she funny indeed ? She can’t even admit that THOUSANDS pay HUGE amounts of money to listen to Celine’s VOICE and admire performing TALENT. I guess it is because Mariah’s pre recorded concerts can’t sell out even in her native Us, in small arenas. Could you make a list of the questions I asked her and didn’t reply ? I would be interested to see that. I think it’s more than 15 questions by now. This alone speaks volumes about her credibility. Hahaha xD

    @ what the what

    TRISH doesn’t accept all the sources that dump Mariah, aka 1) labels
    2) media 3) awards 4) biographies 5) official sites 6) institutions. Now she even attacks certifications. LMAO. What else does Mariah have to do to show her delusional fan base that she is commercially finished ? Does she have to cancel her albums ? Does she have to give limited release to her albums ? Does she have to duet with Bieber ? Oh wait ! She did all these things. Oooops!

    The End <3

  129. Divas Live. says:

    aND THE winner is Celine Dion……………………………………..forever darling………………

  130. TRISH says:

    @ The Reason: Great Job,bravo ! Let’s make it for albums the same way you did for singles.Let’s consider only US and Europe for both divas,then Japan and Canada- Asia and Africa -Ocenia and Latin America.

    MARIAH CAREY

    01.Mariah Carey 16m (Us 9P , Eur 1P)

    02.Emotions 08m (Us 4P , Eur 1P)

    03.Mtv Live 06m (Us 3P , Eur 1P)

    04.Music Box 30m (Us 10P , Eur 7P)

    05.Merry Xmas (Us 5P , Eur 1P

    06.Daydream 25m (Us 10P , Eur 3P)

    06.Butterfly (Us 5P , Eur 1P
    07.Number 1s (Us 5P , Eur 1P
    08.Rainbow 10m (Us 3P , Eur 1P
    09.Glitter 3m (Us 1P
    10.Charmbracelet 3m (Us 1P –
    11.Greatest Hits (Us 1P – 1 Eur -)

    12.Remixies (250k in Us)

    13.TEOM (Us 6P – Europe 1P)

    14.E=MC2 2.5m (Us 1P –
    15.Ballads –
    16.Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel ( Us – Gold)

    17.Merry Xmas 2 U US- Gold
    Total: 83 million for US and Europe.

    CELINE DION

    . Celine Album Certifications Sales :
    01.Unison (Us P
    02.Dion Chante Plamondon –

    03.Celine Dion (Us 2P
    04.The Colour Of My Love (Us 6P , Eur 4P
    05.A L’Olympia (Eur P)

    06.D’Eux 10m Europe 8P
    07.Falling Into You (Us 11P , Eur 9P
    08.Live A Paris (Eur 2P)

    09.Lets Talk About Love (Us 10P , Eur 10P
    10.S’Il Suffisait D’Aimer (2P Europe
    11.These Are Special Times (Us 5P , Eur 1P
    12.Au Coeur Du Stade –
    13.All The Way 23m (Us 7m -– , Eur 5m
    14.Collectors Serie (Us Gold –
    15.A New Day Has Come (Us 3P , Eur 3P
    .One Heart (Us 2P , Eur 1P)

    17.1 Fille Et 4 Types Eur Platine

    18.A New Day…Live In Las Vegas (Us Gold)

    19.Miracle (Us Platinum –
    20.On Ne Change Pas Eur Platine
    21.D’Elles-
    22.Taking Chances (Us 1P , Eur 1P
    23.My Love –
    Total: 91 million for US and Europe.

  131. TRISH says:

    Celine Dion ; Canada :12 million + Japan 5 – 7 million = 19 – 21 million
    Mariah Carey : Canada 5 -7 million + Japan 19 million = 24 – 26 million

    Celine: Ocenia : 3,5 million
    Mariah: Oceania:3 million
    Celine in Africa : 5 million
    Mariah in Africa : 4 million
    Celine in Asia : about 10 million
    Mariah in Asia : about 30 million

    Latin America both are equals maybe 1 or 2 million of difference.

    Where is the difference of 30 million of albums sales that Celine has over Mariah ? You said that Mariah’s singles surpass Celine’s by just 7 million when 6 million sales of difference come from their certification sales whereas you said 28 -30 million sales of difference in their respective albums sales.Who among you or me is the most subjective?
    If you think that I am partial ,I await your arguments.

  132. TRISH says:

    PS: I consider only Platinum ( million) or Gold ( 500.000) sales for both artists Celine and Mariah.

  133. TRISH says:

    @What what:Are you Lucky Luke’s lawyer? If you don’t want to debate and bring arguments yourself,why do you want? Why do you after my posts? I I’ll ignore your posts as you are unable to debate and give proofs.said that I claimed “Mariah is far superior, so why do you need to talk back at us and make fun of something irrelevant to this discussion” I remind you The Reason was the first to claim it in favor of Celine but you blame me when I did the same.You are really ” objective”. You try to be regarded as most objective than me,that’s why you said Celine’s albums surpass Mariah’s by 30 million sales without any proof.But you want me to give you mines. Really brilliant and funny.
    Listen to me dear, You’re here just to take me down and support Celine’s fans.If you want debate bring arguments…
    Ciaoooo!

  134. The Reason says:

    So you finally trust Certifications ? Wow. This is a progress ! And I hope you are going to stop overrate Mariah’s single sales from now on.

    Since we talk about CERTIFIED album sales Mariah doesn’t reach
    the 19m in certifications but the 17m in Japan and 4.1m in Canada.
    She has 40xPlatinum (40×100.000=4.000.000) and 1xGold (1×50.000=50.000) in Canada and she also reaches the 65m in Us and 18m in Europe like you said. In Oceania Mariah has 30xPlatinum certifications in Australia (30×70.000 = 2.100.000 sales) and 3xGold certifications in Australia (3×35.000 = 105.000 sales) and 25xPlatinum in N.Zeland (25×10.000 = 250.000) and 1xGold (1×5.000 = 5.000) and therefore her total CERTIFIED album sales in Oceania stand at 2.460.000

    Celine’s CERTIFIED sales in Us stand at 50m and 49m in Europe (Your posts were correct but you calculated wrong- see again). In Japan her CERTIFIED sales stand at 6m and 12m in Canada. In Oceania Celine gets in Australia 34xPlatinum (34×70.000 = 2.380.000) and 1xGold (1×35.000=35.000), 37xPlatinum in N.Zeland (37×10.000 = 370.000) and 3xGold (3xGold = 3×5.000 = 15.000) so her total CERTIFIED sales in Oceania stand at 2.800.000. Celine’s album sales in Africa surpass the 7.000.000 mark (These were the sales she got her award for) but I haven’t found a detailed documentation about her certifications there beside her late 90s music awards as the best selling foreign/international singer.

    —-> Therefore —>

    106.600.000 CERTIFIED sales from Us, Canada, Oceania, Europe and Japan for Mariah and 119.800.000 CERTIFIED sales from Us, Canada, Oceania, Europe and Japan for Celine.

    Thing is their ACTUAL sales in these markets. Mariah’s actual sales
    are 68m Us, 28m Europe, 5m Canada, 3.5m Oceania and 19m Japan
    which leads to 123.500.000 album sales and Celine’s are 53m in Us, 60m in Europe, 15m in Canada, 8m in Japan and 4m Oceania so she gets
    140.000.000 from these. Celine’s proportion in Canada is bigger because she has 7 Diamond albums which stand for certifications that vary from 10xPlatinum – 18xPlatinum (Let’s Talk About Love/The Colour Of My Love). & Celine gets more copies from Africa.

    If you think that Continental Asia and South America (SMALL markets) are enough to turn this around… I’m waiting your arguments and certifications there. Just keep in mind Billboard has recorded several achievements for Celine in S.America and that she was awarded in 2002 too. Moreover keep in mind that none of them was ever awarded in any Asian market, except for Japan. Just saying… :)

  135. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    I understood about 10% of what you said, so most will be ignored. Did I say I didn’t want to debate? Yes, The Reason was the first to say something about it in favor of Celine, but you also said the same, with a disrespectful comment. But you said it because you wanted to make fun about it, not as an argument to prove who is better.
    I only said I wanted you to give me your sales first because I asked you first. I was only doing what you’ve been doing. So don’t blame me for this stupid tactic. You’re still sticking to the idea that Celine makes money by pulling “clown faces”? And you’re telling me to bring arguments when all you can talk about are their sex life and pulling face?
    Dumber than a stick.

  136. Divas Live. says:

    and the winner is Celine Dion………………………… Mariah is queen of lipsinging…..what a disgrace….. poor vocal power..hahahahahahaha….

    try to fine at youtube of mariah’s real voice \\\\\\\\\\\7 you will be shock how shes been caught lip. & her voice at divas live being pre recorded for DVD’s but still fail…

  137. Mariah4ever says:

    and the winner is Mariah Carey………………………… Celine is queen of lipsinging…..what a disgrace…..nasal and poor vocal power,no flexibility,no riffs,no melismas,no decorations,no innovations,her live performances are easily predictable and sound exactly the same with album versions.They are all lynpsync versions..hahahahahahaha….

    try to fine at youtube of Celine’s real voice \\\\\\\\\\\7 you will be shock how shes been caught lip. & her voice at A New Day’s and Celine’s show being pre recorded for DVD’s but still fail…

  138. Mariah4ever says:

    Trish is busy,busy and very busy,but she will back,don’t worry.Happy holidays and kisses for y’all !!!!!!!!
    Mimi is the very best,Celine sucks she’s so nasal and so ugly.beurk..
    Bye

  139. The Reason says:

    What a dumb, pathetic, helpless little cow. No only the nickname games are still strong but also the copy paste tactic. This explains why TRISH is among these people with more than 1 you tube accounts who feels the need to thumb up their own comments in order to get some credibility.

    Her #1 flop account :

    youtube.com/user/patipatou79

    Her #2 flop account :

    youtube.com/user/daviddaviddaviddaful

    Now read the comment Mariah4ever (=TRISH) left here :

    ”,no flexibility,no riffs,no melismas,no decorations,no innovations,her live performances are easily predictable and sound exactly the same with album versions.”

    Now read the comment patipatou79 left on you tube :

    ”GREAT LIPSYNC VERSION, EXACTLY THE SAME WITH THE ALBUM VERSION ,no creativity,NO decorations,too much straight and nasal…LMAO -)))”

    This was a comment on a CELINE DION VIDEO of her O Holy Night version.

    We ALL know this girl is sick now. You can find her pathetic, mean comments on several videos about Madonna and Celine (the women who outsell her fave) and on videos made by lambs comparing Celine and Mariah. She is so obsessed and mad.

    I guess trolling Celine videos is what keeps you busy, busy, busy…

    Pressed much ? Angry much ? Desperate much ? Yes. Yes. Yes.

    Ask from Santa to give you a working brain next year. Thanks bitch.

  140. Mariah4ever says:

    Hahaha! You made me laugh.I am less patient than Trish.So Trish is the only one in the planet that use the words ” no flexibility,no decorations,no innovation and nasal etc.” for Celine ???
    Hahaha,the only sick is you.According to your sick mind,Trish is the only one Mariah Carey’s fan that could integrate a blog of forum about Mariah vs Celine.You are ill and crazy for Celine.Hahaha!
    So,according to me,What the what,Divas live and the Reason are the same person.Hahaha,I can play the same game. Trish will kick your ass as Mariah kick Celine’s ugly and wrinkled ass,hahahaha !
    Be patient,Trish will come baaaaaaaaaaaaaack !
    I love you all Hahaha.
    Happy new year !!!!!!!!!

  141. The Reason says:

    Oh TRISH. You have used the same nickname before when you lied it
    was your little sister. Same way you lied here that you are 19 years old
    while you post on you tube that you are 27 years old. Do you think you are to be trusted ? XD

    As for the words… It is not a coincidence that the exact limited ghetto vocabulary was used in these videos. Do you think many lambs
    would use these adjective so randomly when they can’t even define
    them like you ? ”no decorations” LMAO. Too bad simple melismas, a beautiful legato line, sustained notes, sense of lyricism and a solid intonation are ways to decorate a song and all these are evident in Celine’s singing in general and on her ”O Holy Night” version in specific. A beautiful seat for you and TRISH.

    I am ill and crazy ? No dear, I never troll you tube videos and I don’t play silly games with multiple accounts or nicknames. Keep your advice and insults for TRISH who bashes and insults singers and strangers in here for 2 years. Let me remind you what a sick behavior looks like :

    Who said she’d like to beat me ? TRISH.
    Who said she’d like to spit on Celine’s face ? TRISH.
    Who’s been resorting to name calling the most ? TRISH.
    Who’s been throwing shade the most ? TRISH.

    See ? You think you can play games with me because this is what your simple minded head tells you. Don’t overestimate yourself. You can’t play any game cause you’re not smart enough. —> You say that I am ”what the what”. How come when ”what the what” speaks English MUCH better than I do ? If you could only make sense.

    You have 2 choices : Show me certifications from Latin America
    and continental Asia that are enough to turn their album sales difference around and win the debate OR admit you are an idiot who lost this debate.

    Oh and stop posting that TRISH will be back. LMAO. Do you think I’m afraid ? I have been dragging her everytime I post my well supported and far superior comments. Everyone can see this. The girl who couldn’t post the certifications of We Belong Together (aka Mariah’s best selling single of the past 11 years) is not a match for me. Really ;-)

    Off you go now. You are dismissed. :)

  142. Dwight says:

    Both artists are great.The difference between both is that : Mariah Carey is like a homemade cookie while Celine Dion is like an industrial cookie : – )

  143. Divas Live. says:

    hahahaha Trish is realyy funy…. she really has a thick face to mimic my post hahahahaha…….. Mariah Carey’s |Lipsyngin is very popular in the world thats why her concert is flop because people knows she will do it again & again hahahahaha,, poor Trish like a trashhhhhh…………hahahaha…. even here in asia shes a huge flop star….

  144. Divas Live. says:

    flop flop flop flop flop spread your wings & flop……flop flop hahahahaha poor mimi….

  145. Divas Live. says:

    Celine Dion is the best singer in the world nowadays, Trish must live with it Mariah Carey are only Dreaming nowadays to get her voice back in shape just to stay in the spotlight….. Celine gets better & better even if you try to aked your mother , your father ,your friends even if you try to asked your \grand mother darling they will choose Celine than your Mariah Carey ,
    I notice when your angry you call Celine Dion ugly…. then I will say this to you that Mariah give Blow jobs to lots of men that she like hahahaha try to listen Mnm music about mariah then you will see whose singer has an ugly Image…..
    Celine is the most humble singer that Ive seen… She’d never do some issue to other artist just being talk about for album sales purposes… Mariah Carey is like a big CAT fat Cow.. yelling,shouting,whistle anywhere without meaning that’s why people dislike her anymore…

    SHE CANT SING ANYMORE HAPPY NEW YEAR………///////LOVE YOU CELINE DION …..YOUR AN ANGEL SINGING…..

  146. Divas Live. says:

    I REALLY LOVE CELINE DION I DON’T HATE MARIAH BUT I ONLY HER TOO IF SOME IDIT LIKE TRISH TRASH KEEP ON BANGING CELINE .

    MARIAH IS A NICE SINGER BUT ///////// A FAN LIKE TRISH IS AN EXAMPLE OF AN IDIOT PERSON THAT KEEPS MARIAH CAREY’S CARRIER DROWNING BECAUSE CELINE FANS KNOW WHAT MARIAH CAREY’S WEAKNESS WHILE THE IDIOT TRISH KEEP BASHING CELINE . CELINE FANS SHOW TO MOST PEOPLE WHATS THE REAL STATUS OF MARIAH RIGHT NOW… MARIAH CAREY IS NOT THAT POWERFUL ANYMORE

    IF THERE’S A CHANCE CELINE & MARIAH CAREY IN ONE STAGE JUST IN ONE NIGHT ….. CELINE DION WILL BLOW MARIAH CAREY AWAY JUST LIKE WHAT SHE DID AT DIVAS LIVE 1998

    IF MARIAH CAREY IS A TRUE DIVA SHE MUST NOT LET CELINE TOI TAKE THE PRICE THAT NIGHT…… THE WHOLE WORLD WAS AMAZE….. THAT MARIAH HAS NOTHING TO DO AT NIGHT…..SHE ONLY GOOD IN STUDIO BUT VERY POOR LIVE…..

    & MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD THAT TRAVEL ONLY TO SEE HER IN LAS VEGAS KNOWS THAT….

    MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD THAT WATCH HER CONCERT DESPITE OF GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS KNOWS THAT..

    MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT BUY HER ALBUMS & SINGLES KNOWS THAT

    EVEN THE THOUSAND’S OF CELEBRITY & A HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF ARTIST,SINGERS ,COMPOSER KNOWS ….THAT MARIAH HAS NO MATCH TO CELINE DION ….

    THIS IS /////// CELINE DION //////// ERA/////

    HAPPY NEW YEAR………..

  147. Divas Live. says:

    AND ………………by the way just travel around the world darling so that you will know Whose version of a come all ye faithful being played in every church today….. they often choose Celine Dion song Even The holy night version just to feel the real meaning of Christmas… Not a shouting & whistle everywhere that you cant even relax an enjoy the moment with a perfect song for Christmas

    You said Trish that Mariah can sing My Hearth Will Go On than Celine………………………hhahahahahahahahah…………hahahahahahahaha………………hahahahahaha……………………now its confirm that you came from Mental Hospital………………..hahahahahahahaha…….. keep on dreaming Trashhhhh you will need it …..Dream…& Wish for your Idol Voice get back in shape because shes about to vanish in music Industries……..Happy New Year………to all……………./////////////////

  148. TRISH says:

    @ What the what
    You understood anything you want,since it favor your lovely artist Celine.But don’t try to play the ” objective one” with me.You are clearly partial.You said that I am biased cause I said Mariah outsold Celine,but you said yourself that Celine outsold Mariah’s records by 30 million.Which proofs did you give about it? At least I brought their respective US and Europe million certified sales.Sorry,but you failed .
    I am not the only one to post disrespectful comment about my opponents.I just reply to disrespectful comments.He refers to Mariah giving blowjob to Mottola while I talked about Mottola’s influence on Celine’s artistic choices.just open your eyes and read Divas live’s posts.If you try only to disappoint my posts,you ‘ll just show your own partiality instead of mines.
    Your opinion are partial and stupid.

  149. TRISH says:

    @ The Reason
    I don’t “think” This is a fact that Mariah is a huge seller in Asia,you know it damn well.Even if institutions can’t prove it,there are so many indices.Mariah has a huge advantage over Celine in Asia as well Celine do in Europe over Mariah.
    You said that you wait my arguments on these ? Can you give arguments about it yourself? If we both can’t give arguments about Asian and S.A sales,So how could you state Celine outsold Mariah by 25-30 million records when certified sales show a difference of 5-10 million when we don’t consider Mariah’s 2nd greatest market ( Asia continent). Who try to be partial and subjective?
    We talk about sales,not about awards.Mariah is the greatest seller western artist.Celine is not even close to her.This is a FACT.Awards can’t change it.

  150. TRISH says:

    @The Reason: You see me through every lambs who cite Celine’s weaknesses,you are a psychopath.I don’t care about what you said on me.Try to defame,try again.You are worse than me,but I don’t have time enough to search your past mad posts.
    Who asked to suck he’s sh**?
    Who called me troll? Bitch ?
    Who called Mariah cheap whore? Fat cow?
    Etc?
    If you refer to my last posts just to defame me and show how much I am mad to make a point.You prove just that you are a coward.Let say readers discover themselves who is mad and who is fair and objective without babbling very past comments.

  151. TRISH says:

    “I have been dragging her everytime I post my well supported and far superior comments. Everyone can see this.” Do you think that you can decide yourself that your posts are far superior to mines? Don’t overestimate yourself dear.Just show to readers where do you come from with 20-30 million albums that Celine sold over Mariah if you can and wake up from your daydream.

  152. TRISH says:

    @ Divas live: Who care about you “REALLY LOVE CELINE DION I DON’T HATE MARIAH ” ? Here is a blog of debate,if you can’t prove your delusional bullcraps,just shut up your slut mouth.Nobody care if you venerate Celine,this is your own business.
    I don’t even have to banging Celine since I don’t hate her.I own almost her whole discography.Facts banging Celine face to Mariah,not me.I just talk facts honey.

    Celine is an ok singer,but Mariah is the greatest singer ever.She can sing not only Pop/Ballad songs.She already make her proofs on singing every musical genres unlike Celine.This is a fact sweety not a fanatic delusion -))
    This is you that look as idiot and ill when you try to improve Celine as a better singer than Mariah.You are a fool Celine fanatic !

    IF THERE’S A CHANCE CELINE & MARIAH CAREY IN ONE STAGE JUST IN ONE NIGHT ….. MARIAH CAREY WOULD BLOW CELINE DION AWAY JUST LIKE SHE DID IN EVERY COVER VERSIONS THAT BOTH ALREADY PERFORMED ( O HOLY NIGHT, THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER,OPEN ARMS, O COME ALL YE FAITHFUL )

    MARIAH’S VOCAL CAPABILITIES ARE ABOVE AND OUT JUST ONE NIGHT. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT CELINE DID AS SO IMPRESSIVE AT THE DIVAS LIVE 1998 ? THE FACT THAT MARIAH WAS NERVOUS IN THAT SHOW DOESN’T PROVE THAT CELINE WAS SO IMPRESSIVE.
    CELINE HAS ONLY HER LAS VEGAS SHOW AS SOMETHING REALLY SUCCESSFUL ,ALL THE REST ARE DELUSIONS AND PARTIAL CRAPS AND ILLUMINATI BACK UP
    SO,STOP YOUR DIARRHEA ABOUT CELINE AS ” THE SUPREME ARTIST”. SHE’S SO FAR FROM IT IN FACTS .

    YES,YOU SAID SOMETHING RIGHT,EVEN THE THOUSAND’S OF CELEBRITY & A HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF ARTIST,SINGERS ,COMPOSER KNOWS …. THAT MARIAH HAS NO MATCH TO CELINE DION ….
    SINCE THEY ALL KNOW THAT MARIAH IS LIGHT YEARS SUPERIOR TO CELINE.

    THANKS,HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU TOO………..

  153. TRISH says:

    Yes, even if Celine’s version of O Com All Ye Faithful was the most played in your daydreams,Mariah’s version would stay a better version by far….Clean up your ears very dear.
    Celine’s version is the most played in every nasal churchs…LMAO !!

    How dare you question me about Mariah singing My Heart Will Go On ??? Every readers of this blog will laugh at you.Why do you think that Mariah couldn’t sing it ? Because of its nasal resonances ???
    Aguilera,Braxton,Hudson,Clarkson,Lewis,Simpson,etc. could sing easily this song.This song is too banal and easy for the woman that is called the VOICE .You laugh at yourself dear,if you don’t know Mariah’s song just try to listen just a few of them before coming here and saying your stupid and foolish absurdities.You are the shame of Celiniacs.
    Love and Kisses
    You prove that you come from the planet mute.

  154. TRISH says:

    PS :@ The Reason
    I don’t just “think” about Mariah’s Asian sales. This is a fact that Mariah is a huge seller in Asia,you know it damn well.Even if institutions can’t prove it,there are so many indices.Mariah has a huge advantage over Celine in Asia as well Celine do in Europe over Mariah.
    You said that you wait my arguments on these ? Can you give arguments about it yourself? If we both can’t give arguments about Asian and S.A sales,So how could you state Celine outsold Mariah by 25-30 million records when certified sales show a difference of 5-10 million when we even don’t consider Mariah’s 2nd greatest market ( Asia continent).So,how it could be possible when Mariah is the that already outsold Celine in Singles sales ???
    Who is partial and subjective?
    We talk about sales,not about awards.Mariah is the greatest seller western artist in Asia continent.Madonna is second although she’s far behind Mariah.So,Celine is not even close to Mariah there.This is a FACT that Awards and citations can’t change.

  155. TRISH says:

    Mariah Carey is the best singer in the world ever,proving not only by citations and awards,but before all by her songs and performances! Celine is the queen of lipsynching.Mariah is way better than her on stage !

  156. TRISH says:

    PS : My mistakes I meant that Divas live prove that he come from the planet deaf .
    Thanks

  157. Dreamlover says:

    @ TRISH

    (The Reason)

    I’m gonna make things simple for you because I find you extremely boring.

    Take note on the following :

    1) ”At least I brought their respective US and Europe million certified sales.”

    You brought NOTHING honey. You only COPY PASTED my previous comments. I am just making this straight.

    2) They is NO proof that Mariah sold so much more in CONTINENTAL Asia. If you know something I ignore go on and prove me wrong.

    ”there are so many indices.” Uhmm… Like the fact that she was never awarded there ? Yeap right. Next !

    3) ”You said that you wait my arguments on these ? ”

    Yes darling. I brought sales for their ENTIRE singles discography when
    you FAILED at bringing the certifications of ONE Mariah single. Then
    you copy pasted MY comments about their respective album sales
    and now you call me PARTIAL for aksing you to PROVE
    what YOU say and think about their sales in Asia and S.America ?
    Dear, these are YOUR cards because these album sales in these two
    markets are your LAST chance to prove Mariah’s commercial superiority.

    Celine surpasses her for 17m CERTIFIED album sales in the rest
    music markets without counting Africa (which makes this difference bigger).

    4) ”Celine is not even close to her.This is a FACT.Awards can’t change it.”

    How do you know this baby ? You can’t even post their respective certifications in a relevantly big market like China. :)

    5) ”You are worse than me,but I don’t have time enough to search your past mad posts.”

    LMAO. Nope. I don’t troll Mariah’s videos on you tube. I never did and never will. I never threatened you and I never said I wanted to beat Mariah. You are so pressed over Celine and my insults were the result of YOUR insults. I rarely insult people and you have the privilege to be the FIRST girl I EVER insulted like that in my life. LOL.

    6) ”Do you think that you can decide yourself that your posts are far superior to mines?

    First of all, there is no such thing as readers. LMAO. Stop dreaming that you are in a public debate. Second, my comments are well supported indeed. You just post generic things you imagine and lies and only call my posts biased without explaining and elaborating on what makes them partial. Third, you have 0 credibility when you try (for instance) to prove vocal superiority by mentioning awards and stuff like that. This is the best example of ignorance. I’m gonna show you below what I mean.

    Moving on

    – Celine resonates from the mask in My Heart Will Go On and there is 0 nasality. FAIL.

    – Aguilera, Simpson, Hudson, Lewis, Clarkson could never sing My Heart Will Go On because the first 2 strain every mid belt, Hudson has no colors in her voice and the rest 2 have an awful low register and couldn’t deliver the soft parts of the song. FAIL.

    Like I told you before STOP. TALKING. ABOUT. VOCAL. ISSUES.

    Technically Mariah could sing My Heart Will Go On indeed. Of course this comes from your falsified belief that Mariah can sing all songs, not from your music knowledge but anyway.

    – Celine can’t sing ONLY ballads. FAIL. This is a very IGNORANT and CONTRADICTORY comment from someone who just said she owns her entire discography. Celine has sang soft rock, blues, Jazz, reggae, disco, rnb, country, techno and I could cite the respective songs any time.

    – Both Celine and Mariah are guilty of lipping. LMAO. None of the is the Queen of it. Stop posting bull crap PLEASE.

    – Mariah isn’t better than Celine on stage. She is awkward many times and hardly ever energetic. Hence more people attend Celine’s concerts. If you reply to this by mentioning ”pulling faces” you are helpless indeed.

    Oh and please don’t call out ANYONE’S comments for being ignorant and contradictory. You ARE the one to post the most ignorant and contradictory and falsified comments BY FAR. Remember when you said Mariah sold more than 40m albums than Celine ? And here you are now totally unable to turn around the 20m albums difference that exists in favor of Celine. Remember when you said Mariah sold more than 40m singles than Celine ? And here you are exposed since their sales difference stands indeed at 7m copies like I had been saying for so long. So yeap. Don’t call anyone partial or liar cause you are unreachable in these. This is proved so many times. Same goes for your ignorance of course since you avoid 90% of the questions you are asked.

    Like I said I’m bored of this debate…

    Do me a favor and deal with the fact that Mariah is not the best selling female artist ever. It is not that important. Seriously… You are probably the last lamb to believe that. :/

  158. TRISH says:

    @ The Reason
    Dreamlover ? The next comment will be under the nickname Fantasy or Misled ? Hahaha ! This is really funny…LMAO : -))

    1) Since when you were allowed to created musical certification sales ? Are you a musical expert or a musical institution representative? Do you think that these datas are yours ? That’s why you decided yourself to certified All The Way album 9 x Platinum in US ? Very impressive from you !

    2) They is NO proof that Celine outsold Mariah’s albums by even 10 million,this is rather the opposite. If you know something I ignore go on and prove me wrong.
    4) You said that No proof explain Mariah’s sales in Asia,so how dare you that Celine outsold Mariah’s sales when their respective asian sales are unknown there?

    How dare you deny that Mariah is a huge western seller in Asia over Celine? Then you talk about objectivity and partiality?

    How could you talk about the better worldwide seller between both when their asian sales are not clear ? Just because IFPI decided that Celine is a huge seller in Europe?

    3) Sweety, certifications prove that Celine’s US + Canada + Japan + Europe doesn’t surpass Mariah’s by even 10 million although Mariah’s best market after US ( Asia) is even not considered.So,even if Mariah would sold just 20 – 25 million over Celine in Asia ( the largest continent and the most populated by very faaaaar… in the whole earth planet ) She would have the advantage over Celine.So,you fail,when you babbling that Celine could ever outsold Mariah’s albums by even 1 million.This is impossible. FAIL !

    4) Yes,Celine is not even close to Mariah in Asia. How do you know that Mariah is not even close to Celine in Europe ? Because of IFPI and Mediatrafic’s wishes ?

    5) Here is a Popdirt debate,not Youtube.By the way I already your mad comments and your fights with some lambs in Youtube.You dissed lambs in Youtube since many years before I integrate it.This is you the sick fanatic.Anyway,don’t try to talk about Youtube’s posts here to make a point.Don’t play the innocent here cause you are not.

    6) Oh ! “Stop dreaming that you are in a public debate.” So,according to you,we are just in only 2 in Popdirt debates,that’s why you think I am under every other lamb that could come here and say something in favor of Mariah over Celine ? Only Celine could have a fan to support her out of you.Great !Thank you for this info…LMAO !!!!! I really think that you are ill.
    By which arguments your comments are well supported ??? Estimations ? Partial citations? Irrelevant Awards? .Wake up ! You dreamed a dream.Hahaha ! I already explained why they are partials and biased.

    You’d better reprimand your allie Celiniac ( if he really exist) about his delusional craps about Mariah as singer.Celine can’t match Mariah as singer, hate it or like it. Mariah is faaaaaaar better singer than Celine.Don’t even try to say this is my imagination.Everyone know it
    – Aguilera, Simpson, Hudson, Lewis, Clarkson could sing very well My Heart Will Go On.Aguilera could do it easily,she can sing more softly than Celine,don’t even try to deny it.
    . FAIL.

    I tell you right now, SAY TO YOUR IDIOT ALLIE TO STOP TALKING. ABOUT. VOCAL. ISSUES.if he come back with he’s ignorant bullcraps I will destroy he’s deliriums.

    Celine has sang soft rock, blues, Jazz, reggae, disco, rnb, country, techno ,etc. ??? Bof…Only her Pop/ballad songs are good all the rest are amateur.Every artist could try singing every musical genres,but Mariah is better in different musical genre mastered than any female artist.

    – Both Celine and Mariah are guilty of lipping.So,why celiniacs always try to diss lambs by saying that Mariah is the only one to lipped? You’d better answer Divas Live’s bullcraps about lipsynching,since he is the first that talked about it.Try to show a little bit of objectivity baby.

  159. TRISH says:

    You ask me to remind when I said Mariah outsold Celine’s singles by 40 million? Do you remind when you said that Lady gaga equals Mariah’s single sold? That Madonna outsold Mariah’s singles by 50 million ? By the way,the datas you gave for Celine and Mariah’s singles are unfair cause you consider Celine weak sales in Europe. For Example Celine has many singles certified 50 K, 75 K etc for some of her successful singles in Europe as Tell him,Tout l’or des hommes,etc. In the same way,Mariah’s Make It Happen,Someday,I Don’t Wanna cry,Anytime You Need A Friend, Open Arms,Butterfly,Can’t take That away,Against All Odds,etc… could sold by 80 k,150,k,300 k,400 k, etc. In US alone although they are not certified since they were popular in Charts.
    Move on this.
    Anyway, Mariah outsold Celine

  160. Dreamlover says:

    Yes darlling. I felt like changing my nickname.

    1) I didn’t say that I created these certifications. Learn how to read. I said that I was the one to collect them and bring them here on this debate. And my comment was a reply to you saying that you were the one to bring them here when all you did was copy pasting MY comments, posted months ago. Made sense now ? Good. Move on.

    2) I showed how Celine outsells Mariah for 20m album copies from their combined sales in all markets exept for S.America and Asia. And you are the one to call me a liar. So go on and show me how I am a liar.

    3) I said that YOU brought NO proof to support YOUR theories. I didn’t
    say Mariah’s Asian sales are uknown because they aren’t. They are calculated indeed and posted in her official sites. Too bad you are unable to move your ass and do some search of YOUR OWN. This is why we know her big/important certifications there. Too bad your ”knowledge” stops DEAD at what is posted in Wikipedia.

    4) I NEVER denied Mariah sold more than Celine in Asia. But their difference is huge mainly because of the Japanese sales. And Celine’s sales are calculated in Asia as well and I have showed you the link. What else can I do ? :)

    5) Certifications from all music markets exept CONTENENTAL Asia
    and S.Anerica show Celine being ahead for 20m album sales+. I don’t
    reply to ”even if” theories. Next !

    6) I know that Celine is in front of Mariah in Europe because of her
    certifications not only in Europe as a whole (IFPI) but also of the
    certifications they recieved in each market in specific. You are
    a very troubled person to doubt these certifications when a few weeks ago YOU were the one to bring them here. Moreover Mediatrafic is not correlated to Europe alone. I don’t know where you saw that. You are obviously attack Mediatraffic because it shows Celine being ahead of Mariah.

    7) Having fights with lambs is totally different than hating on Mariah and bashing her videos. It takes a brain to get the difference so I don’t expect you to get it. I have also had many fights with Celine fans who used to say that Celine didn’t lip. (I am just giving ONE example)…

    8) You always talk about ”the readers”. This is dumb. Like 5 or 6 people would pay attention to these comments, not more. We are not judged by anyone LMAO.

    9) ”Estimations ? Partial citations? Irrelevant Awards?”

    Why do you attack these ? Oh right. Because Mariah is dumped. Ooops.

    10) None of these women could sing My Heart Will Go On. Aguilera doesn’t sing softly at all. She screams her notes and labours even in the 4th octave. I repeat that none of them could sing My Heart Will Go On. The softest note in the mid 3rd octave and the highest is an Eb5. This song requires same range as Mariah’s version of Open Arms. Do you think that
    Christina and the rest bitches could sing Open Arms ? Imagine Aguilera straining on ” Nooothing to hide, believe what I’m saying !” or
    ”You’re here, there’s noooothing I fear” … Moreover, I already said clearly that Mariah could sing My Heart Will Go On, so this is a DIRECT reply to what the Celine fan said. Didn’t you read it ?

    11) And yes… Celine sang all these genres. I didn’t compare her with Mariah. I replied to what you said that Celine can only sing ballads. If you attack Celine for singing only pop/ballads you’re gonna get called out on it.

    12) Saying that Mariah AND Celine are guilty of lipping is an OBVIOUS reply to both of you. I adressed the comment to you because I got a reply from you. Jesus ! You call me out on objectivity when you couldn’t even CITE which songs are lipped by Mariah and which songs are lipped by Celine. When you put your fingers on the PC to write to ME, make SURE you know what you are talking about.

    13) ”Do you remind when you said that Lady gaga equals Mariah’s single sold? ”

    Yes because SHE DOES. Do you want me to bring her certifications to show you where her certified sales stand ? The certified sales of ”Pokerface” stand at 8.000.000 worldwide (5xPlatinum in Us alone). ”Just Dance” is 6xPlatinum in Us. So from only 2 songs she gets 11.000.000 certified sales in US ! You really think that the rest certified sales of her hit songs don’t reach the 27.000.000 mark WORLDIWDE ? Like I said I can bring her certified sales ANYTIME. Don’t provoke me.

    14) My list of their single sales is VERY correct and many of the singles
    you mentioned weren’t even released commercially. On top of that
    Celine has many singles to MISS certifications such as If you aksed me to,
    Where does my heart beat now, That’s way it is, Nothing Broken My Heart,
    Misled etc. All these charted higher in Us than many of the Mariah songs you mentioned. So don’t attack my lists AT ALL.

    You should change your nickname to Misled. It fits your knowledge and denial perfectly.

  161. Dreamlover says:

    On top of all these :

    – I was the one to bring their singles certifications here.

    – I was the one to bring all their awards.

    – I was the one to post label announcements.

    – I was the one to post their album sales in all markets except for 2.

    What have you done TRISH for this debate ? I mean…other than dragging your delusional ass here and repeating unsupported theories that are dumped by official facts.

    ”Anyway, Mariah outsold Celine”

    Yes, this is why Celine made it AGAIN to the list of top 10 earnes of 2011. Mariah is nowhere again no matter how she used several artists to stay relevant and sell records/downloads. She released 3 duets, right ? And re-released her 2010 Xmas album right ? XD

    Keep dreaming she outsold Celine.

  162. Dreamlover says:

    I am going to post Gaga’s CERTIFIED sales in Us and Uk only.

    1) Just Dance-> 6xPLATINUM in Us & 1xPLATINUM in Uk -> 6m + 300k

    2) Pokerface —-> 5xPLATINUM in Us & 1xPLATINUM in Uk —> 5m + 300k

    3) Love Game —-> 2xPLATINUM un Us —> 2m

    4) Paparazzi —> 3xPLATINUM & 1xGOLD in Uk —> 3m & 150k

    5) Bad Romance —-> 4xPLATINUM in Us & 1xGOLD in Uk —> 4m & 300k

    6) Telephone —-> 3xPLATINUM in Us —> 3m

    7) Alejandro —> 2xPLATINUM in Us —> 2m

    8) Born This Way —> 3xPLATINUM in Us

    9) The Edge Of Glory —> 2xPLATINUM in Us

    Also You and I and Marry The Night sold 1m and 500k + in Us respectively
    but aren’t certified yet. Check BILLBOARD and Nielsen Soundscan for these and RIAA for her certifications. Everything is so clear.

    Lady Gaga with 9 songs has reached the 31.000.000 CERTIFIED sales in Us and Uk ALONE. Only in these TWO markets.

    So Gaga in Us and Uk >>>>>>>> Mariah’s TOTAL WORLDWIDE single certified sales.

    Gaga : 31.000.000 …. Mariah : 27.000.000 !

    As you see I know what I am talking about. I am not hating on Mariah
    and I am NOT a Gaga fan. Like I have told you many times STOP. TALKING. ABOUT. SALES.

    Would you like to forget about this debate and talk about our fave Mariah songs and albums etc ?

    Darling you don’t know about sales and you don’t know about vocals.

    I seriously can’t discuss with you anymore. :/ You wanted to prove
    that I am partial and unfair and this is why you brought Lady Gaga
    up. And what is the result ? You proved again you are an ignorant.
    Instead of proving my partiality, you proved your ignorance. It all
    turned against you. :(

    Like I said… it’s time to give up humiliating yourself. You don’t deserve that. :/

  163. Divas Live says:

    hahahaha…………

  164. Divas Live says:

    Mariah Carey has no voice anymore try to asked some doctor to check your airdrum Moriah Sluty…is known in the world for the most demanding singer… that’s why nobody went to her concert only few cow….

    She just ruin if she sing my herth will go on what shed do is boring whistle 7 disgusting whisper hahaha

    Pray Pray & pray to get your Moriah slutty to her voice to get back in shape because shes boring hahaha

    try to whistle hard to have an impact to the audience but still not good to hear…..what a disgrace singer don’t know how to take care of her slutty voice….

  165. Divas Live says:

    shes not affective anymore she ruined Micheal Jackson’s memoriam

    She ruin the show of divas live 1998 Aretha & Celi ne kill her several time at the show….hahhahaha

    What a shame to the issue about her label…..hahaha…..

    Celine Dion Will kick her black ass in everything…..

    Mariah is Ugly if you take away her 1″ thick make up that’s the fact….. & what a huge implant breast eww…

  166. Divas Live says:

    Moriahh Sluty has no voice anymore ……………………hahaha Celine Dion rules

  167. BUTTERFLY says:

    Yes darlling. I felt like changing my nickname.

    1) You felt proud bringing Maria and Celine’s US and European Certification sales ? Hahaha ! What as more banal and easy ? Do you really think that I couldn’t find them ? Oh you’re really the best.Hahaha. LMAO What a stupid though !
    Yes I prove that I’m able to kick your partial ass using your own crap comments.

    2) I showed how Mariah outsells Celine for 20m album copies from their combined sales in all markets although I even don’t considered S.America and Asia. And you are the one to call me a liar. So go on and show me how I am a liar.

    3) I said that YOU brought NO real proof to support YOUR though. Prove Mariah’s Asian sales if you dare.Any institution never happened to calculate Mariah’s Asian sales,cause Asia is too big and too much populated.They calculate only her sales in some greatest Asian markets.
    . Too bad your ”knowledge” stops DEAD at what is posted in every sources that are under the Illuminati influence.

    4) In the same way you said in the case of Asia,I can say that in Europe,Mariah and Celine’s difference is huge mainly because of French sales.But,Celine is credited to sell more than two times of Mariah’s albums in whole Europe. What else can I do ? :)

    5) You LIE !!!!!!! You usually say Celine’s GLOBAL albums outsold Mariah’s by 25 – 30 million.Don’t try to clear yourself by tricks.Moreover,Certifications from all music markets except CONTINENTAL Asia
    and S.America doesn’t show Celine being ahead for even 10m album sales. I challenge you to prove it !!!!!!! You are the king and the tricky LIAR that never lived. Prove how Celine’s certifications out of Asia outsold Mariah by 20 million if you dare !!!!
    5)
    Even if we consider that Mariah sold just 25 – 30 million album over Celine in Asia,that would give her the advantage.

    6)No baby, I attack Mediatrafic because it base its datas on estimations and statements,not on real counts.
    7) You always say that you reply to my comments because they are exposed.So,if there is just 5 or 6 people that would pay attention to these why do you so obsessed to reply each comment?
    So,when I said “readers” I refer to the 5 or 6 people that could read them,ok ?

    9) ”Estimations ? Partial citations? Irrelevant Awards?”

    Why do I attack these ? First- Because Celine doesn’t deserve even the half of them ( Best Musician of 2000’s, for example and so on… This is so laughable) Mariah is dumped. Oops.
    Second-Because you confound them with achievements themselves. Achievements stay facts even if they are not honored by any institution.If you can’t give an achievement for an artist without talking about its accolade.This could be a fake achievement and an irrelevant award

  168. Dreamlover says:

    @ TRISH

    *Mariah has 40xPlatinum (40×100.000=4.000.000) and 1xGold (1×50.000=50.000) in Canada and she also reaches the 65m in Us and 18m in Europe like YOU said. In Oceania Mariah has 30xPlatinum certifications in Australia (30×70.000 = 2.100.000 sales) and 3xGold certifications in Australia (3×35.000 = 105.000 sales) and 25xPlatinum in N.Zealand (25×10.000 = 250.000) and 1xGold (1×5.000 = 5.000) and therefore her total CERTIFIED album sales in Oceania stand at 2.460.000.
    In Japan Mariah has 12 MILLION Certifications and 11 PLATINUM and 2 GOLD so her certified sales stand at 14.5m there.

    So she gets 65m (US) & 4m (CANADA) & 18m (EUROPE) & 14.5m (JAPAN) & 2.5m (OCEANIA) = 104m CERTIFIED sales.

    *Celine’s CERTIFIED sales in Us stand at 50m and 49m in Europe (YOU posted so). In Japan her CERTIFIED sales stand at 6m and 12m in Canada. In Oceania Celine gets in Australia 34xPlatinum (34×70.000 = 2.380.000) and 1xGold (1×35.000=35.000), 37xPlatinum in N.Zealand (37×10.000 = 370.000) and 3xGold (3xGold = 3×5.000 = 15.000) so her total CERTIFIED sales in Oceania stand at 2.800.000. Celine’s album sales in Africa surpass the 7.000.000 mark (These were the sales she got her award for).

    Celine gets 50m (US) & 12m (CANADA) & 49m (EUROPE) & 6m (JAPAN)
    & 2.8m (OCEANIA) = 120m CERTIFIED sales from these.

    See why I said that Celine is ahead for 16m copies and close to 20m if you also count that she is the best seller in Africa ? Hence her awards there.

    #OUCH !

    Now please reply to these simple Questions if you can :

    1) Where did I say I felt PROUD of bringing these certifications here ?
    Are you putting words in my mouth for making a point ? I just
    made it clear that you did nothing about it unlike what you said to
    ”what the what”. Second, don’t judge something as easy when you
    failed bringing the certifications of Mariah’s ”We Belong Together”.

    2) When was the last time you showed anything ? LMAO. We brought their respective sales and this is how Celine is ahead for about 20m without counting Asia and L.America.

    3) ”Prove Mariah’s Asian sales if you dare.”

    Why do you ask me to prove this since this is YOUR job ? I supported Celine’s superiority by all significant markets and your LAST chance
    is the Asian micro markets. LEARN that the Asian markets are VERY SMALL and population is IRRELEVANT to certification levels and amount of sales. Next ! However, I WILL post Mariah’s certified sales in the major markets there once you comprehend their sales difference from Us, Canada, Oceania, Africa, Japan. I can’t talk about Asian sales when you come back like a MORON to say that Mariah beats Celine for 20m albums in these markets. Sit down.

    4) ”In the same way you said in the case of Asia,I can say that in Europe,Mariah and Celine’s difference is huge mainly because of French sales.But,Celine is credited to sell more than two times of Mariah’s albums in whole Europe. What else can I do ? :)”

    How can you be that stupid ? :D This doesn’t even make sense given the
    fact that Celine outsells Mariah in EVERY European market. They only tie
    in single sales in Uk and still Celine sold more albums in Uk. So how come
    you’d say something like that ? Based on what ?

    5) LMAO ! I died laughing at this surreal post. Anyway I reposted THE facts so you can take a seat. See how copy pasting exposes your stupidity ?

    6) ”No baby, I attack Mediatrafic because it base its datas on estimations and statements,not on real counts.”

    Please explain me : Who are you to say this ? You really think you are in position to judge sources when you brought 0 sources here and have been UNABLE to post your faves singles certifications ? XD Darling you are just a simple minded girl behind its PC ! You don’t even know proper English so LMAO @ you judging official international sources like that !

    7) What have you brought in this debate ? Awards ? Nope. Sales certifications ? Nope. Official Announcements ? Nope. So what are
    you doing here exactly ? Trying to prove you like Mariah by
    posting all this nonsense ?

    Please girl, reply to these simple questions by answers and not copy pasting my comments if you dare ! Do you have the guts to do so ?
    If you don’t just admit being a pussy loser.

    PS1 : Celine deserved all her awards. #1 earning musician makes sense and of course Celine can be called a musician because singing well (something Celine does) requires musicality. (Not to mention she can play piano, guitar and has potential to compose.) Got it girl ? Celine deserves all her accolades and even more. By saying with no arguments that she doesn’t deserve them isn’t going to make Mariah look any better since she doesn’t have them. Celine’s songs received more Academy, Grammy, Golden Globe, Junos, Felix, European awards and you will deal. Same way Mariah’s received more Billboard awards. Celine received the most recent career awards and you will deal. On top of that she is awarded in Canada, Uk, Europe, Africa, Latin America and Mariah could only dream of these. It’s more possible to sellout an arena in these markets than being awarded there. Celine made it to the top 10 of the highest earners of 2011 AGAIN. Mariah nowhere no matter the FACT that she did 3 commercially released duets & re-released her 2010 Christmas album.

    PS2 Where is the so called ”best sellers” popularity and stability darling ?
    You think album sales of 600k , 1.2m, 2m and commercial disasters like Glitter and Charmbracelet apply to the best selling female artist ever ? & On top of these no touring sellouts and no good music DVD sales !

    PS3 You are such a joke. Do me a favour and stop correlating Mariah’s undeniable TALENT to her success. Being successful doesn’t mean someone is talented or Madonna wouldn’t be so successful cause she is untalented. And vice versa ! Being talented doesn’t mean someone will be successful. Hence, a god given talent like Lara Fabian is unsuccessful.
    Mariah can’t win in everything baby girl. Just stick to the fact that make stand out :
    * Technique
    *Singing Range
    *#1 hits & 200m sales
    * Impact/ Influence
    * Musicianship

    Instead of lying about her sales go learn what terms ”technique” and ”musicianship” are about and TRUST ME, you’re gonna admire Mariah even more and you won’t have to resort to STUPID lists (Cove, Rolling Stone etc) or SILLY arguments ”by listening to her songs” to prove her talent and superiority.

    These were my questions (I’m sure I’m gonna get 0 answers) and these were my suggestions… At least you showed you have SOME brain by making no further stupid comment on Gaga’s obvious superiority in single sales. That’s a progress ! Bravo !

    Now do me a favour, calm down and think before you reply…

    Away with you.

  169. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    I’m seriously sick and tired of you using Illuminati as an excuse to why Celine’s sales are higher than Mariah. First, you keep going on about how Celine is apart of Illuminati, then you say “In spite of all I saw in the web,I don’t really think Celine is Illuminati because of her personality and her kindness.” Then you go back to using the Illuminati excuse.
    What is wrong with you??
    That’s all I have to say for today. Goodnight and rest peacefully
    :)

  170. BUTTERFLY says:

    10) You said that every female vocalists could sing Mariah’s Against All Odds,you said that it would be easy for Christina and others to sing the part : “CAUSE I”LL ( still be standing (standing here)
    AND YOU COMING BACK TO ME IS AGAINST ALL ODDS THAT’S THE CHANCE I’VE GOT TO TAKE.”
    but you try to say that they couldn’t sing My heart will go on because of the part ” You’re here there’s nothing I fear ” What a paradoxical comment from an expert ? … LMAO ! The 5 or 6 people would see who among you and me is partial.
    All these women could sing easily My Heart Will Go On. Aguilera most softly than Celine. Yes,she screams her notes ,but Celine do the same honey.Celine screams her high notes instead of singing on them.11) And yes… Celine sang all these genres. I didn’t compare her with Mariah. I replied to what you said that Celine can only sing ballads. If you attack Celine for singing only pop/ballads you’re gonna get called out on it.

    12) No matter if Celine has some amateur songs in different musical genres.What is important here, is that Mariah is a better singer than her.No question about it.

    13) None of these Celine’s singles you mentioned charted higher than Mariah’s in US,Only Where Doe’s My heart Beat Now was Charted Top 5 in Billboard Hot 100 as well as Can’t Let go and make It Happen.
    Moreover,Celine wasn’t a great single seller in US like Mariah was.Mariah’s uncertified singles sold way more than Celine’s .

    You should change your nickname to Crafty.

  171. BUTTERFLY says:

    And don’t talk anymore about objectivity.I am sure if I replied to Divas Live disrespectful comments,you would answer to me.If a lamb come here and post the same comments that Divas Live did to banging Celine,you would the first to answer to him ,then say this is me under another Nickname,and blablabla… I will reply to Divas Live just to provoke your reaction.

    @ Divas Live : Celine maybe a Mariah rival in records sales,but as vocalist she doesn’t deserve to be compare with Mariah.Mariah is the voice,the most extended voice ever ! No human can match her in singing ability and vocal capabilities.Celine can only dream of Mariah’s whispers and soft notes as well as her low notes,her powerful notes and her flexibility.keep dreaming about your nose.All that she’s able to do is repeating after producers and singing recycled hits.She just follow the way paved by other artists.Other artists create and compose her songs,than produce them.Where is your proud on this when you try to dissed lambs by banging Mariah as vocalist and singer ? At least,she doesn’t sing thanks to other arti.
    Get a grip dear asshole and don’t give to your idol what is belong to another artists.Ok ???
    Bye

  172. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Lucky Luke.
    Your partial posts made me laugh !
    You give Celine’s 12 million sales estimation in Canada when you give Mariah’s Japanese certification sales .This is really objective from you !
    Honey,Celine’s Canadian certifications doesn’t reach even 10 million.So,if you consider she sold 12 million albums in Canada, I consider that Mariah sold 19 million albums in japan.Do you think that you are the only smart person in this planet ?
    Hahaha,18 million sales for Mariah in Europe while 49 for Celine ? Hahahaha…I just can’t stop to laugh.LMAO !!!! This is so funny.Now you give me reason when I said that Mariah sales are undershipped in Europe while Celine’s are highly overshipped.These number you gave doesn’t match with certifications sales count themselves.
    The objective and fair way to calculate their respective albums sales is that :

    Mariah 83 million Certified sales from US and Europe alone.
    Celine 91 million Certified sales from US and Europe alone.
    You can’t deny it baby.Prove me wrong if you dare !
    Celine 12 million official sales from Canada
    Mariah 18 million official sales from Japan
    Celine 5 million official sales from Japan
    Mariah 4 million official sales from Canada
    Celine 2,8 million official sales from Oceania
    Mariah 2,5 million official sales from Oceania
    Where are the 20 million sales that Celine has over Mariah ? Where this difference coming from ? Your straight imagination ? …LMAO !

    Don’t dream about Celine sold 7 million albums in Africa.This is just ridiculous and laughable…Lol
    Asian sales ? Not clear
    S.America
    ? Not clear
    Africa ( the micro continent market by far ) ? Not clear
    So,where is the proof that Celine’s albums outsold Mariah’s ?

  173. BUTTERFLY says:

    You said ” This doesn’t even make sense given the
    fact that Celine outsells Mariah in EVERY European market. They only tie
    in single sales in Uk and still Celine sold more albums in Uk. So how come
    you’d say something like that ? Based on what ?”
    I remind you that Mariah outsells Celine in EVERY Asian market as well as Celine do in Europe.So,my arguments has a solid base.

    Please explain me : Who are you to say Celine outsold Mariah ? You really think institutions are in position to decided about artists sales when they are UNABLE to explain how they could stated like this and make estimations out of reality like IFPI usually do?
    You too baby ,you are just a simple minded boy behind its PC ! Babbling fake arguments and partial statements that are based on nothing.

    I don’t speak proper English but,I am smart enough to discover lies and tricks from people who know English language better than me.

    What have I brought in this debate ? I denounced fake arguments,links,citations,irrelevant awards,fake achievements,etc.I also brought many and many solid arguments.

    I could answer to you the same question
    What had you bring as concrete in this debate ?
    I answer to what I want since you ignored most of my questions.

    Celine doesn’t deserved all her awards. #1 earning musician doesn’t makes sense for a limited artist as Celine.Yes she can sing,but which Pop (music) artist doesn’t know to sing ? In which of her songs Celine already played Piano or Guitar ? Do you think that she really deserves the title of Best Musician in 2000 whole decade just because she play Piano and Guitar at home ? For her Kids,her family or husband ? Do you think that Musical institution should awarded someone for its supposed ” composing potential” While she never had a personal implication in her own songs ? Which doesn’t deserve a such award and Citation if Celine do?????????????????

    .Mariah’s songs receive way more WORLD MUSIC AWARDS !!
    By the way,can you tell me which Grammy Celine has over Mariah ?
    Mariah won 5 Grammy awards while Celine won 4,5 Grammy.See?

    Celine received the most recent career awards because she reach Mariah’s level by late, deal with it baby.
    Everyone already knows that Celine is successful in concerts,it useless to still talking about it.She still successful in concerts these last years while Mariah still have Hits in major charts.

    Where is the so called ”best sellers” popularity and stability sweety ?
    You think album sales of 400k , 1.2m, 2m from compilations and commercial disasters like Taking Chance,One heart and Miracle apply to the best selling female artist ever ? & On top of these no Single sellouts and no Hit in Charts !

    PS3 You are such a joke. Do me a favour and stop correlating Celine’s undeniable COMMERCIAL achievements to her talent and success.
    ……Kisses !

  174. Dreamlover says:

    @ GUTTERFLY

    I reply to you because you are the one to take action against my favorite singer the past 2 years and on top of that you are the one to insult me and make fun of my posts. So every time you act like a little bitch, I’m gonna reply to you. I have already given my answers on vocal ability for Celine and Mariah so I don’t plan to repeat them again and again. Besides, even I talked about it, you could barely understand. Remember when I said Mariah has great technique (I replied to a Mimi hater) and you confounded technique to singing style ? Remember when you thought
    I bashed Mariah once I said she isn’t in a good vocal condition ? If you only knew that condition is irrelevant to singing ability and therefore I wasn’t bashing her singing at all. Do you remember when you posted an ignorant comment on you tube saying Celine’s 5th octave belted notes aren’t high notes ? Either way vocal ability, lipping, insults are irrelevant to this debate because this debate is correlated to success. The question is who had the most successful career, not who is the most talented. I have to say though that you are right in your argument about Against All Odds. I posted my words in the wrong way. I used the word vocalist to talk about skilled singers such as Toni Braxton, Lara Fabian, Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin etc because all these could sing this song and Celine’s My Heart Will Go On of course. Christina Aguilera couldn’t sing it because she is very throaty. My mistake. Like I told you Celine resonates through the mask in My Heart Will Go On. She has indeed been throaty in upper belts sometimes when singing live but this is very out of topic. Thing is people like Christina or Jessica Simpson can’t sing in the 5th octave at all and therefore what you say about their singing is totally unsupported. Not to mention that their lower register is a myth.

    Many of the singles I stated charted higher than singles you mentioned
    such as Butterfly, Forever, Can’t Take That Away. Can’t Let Go and Make It Happen are top 5 hits. Same goes for Where Does My Heart Beat Now and If You Asked Me To. Don’t forget that Celine has many not certified singles in European countries as well such as Only One Road (Top 10 in Uk, Ireland), and songs that charted high in the European Hot 100 such as I Drove All Night and more. See ? Singles that lost certifications don’t only apply to Mariah. They also apply to Celine. Either way these songs didn’t
    sell enough copies to be certified so they are irrelevant to the discussion. Same discussion could be made for certified singles as well that lost a higher certification. There is no end to this and a convo like this makes no sense at all since there isn’t any sort of proof.

    You dared to laugh at my comments ? This will surely make you laugh as well. Take note :

    This the list YOU brought a few weeks ago :

    01.Mariah Carey 16m (Us 9P , Eur 1P)
    02.Emotions 08m (Us 4P , Eur 1P)
    03.Mtv Live 06m (Us 3P , Eur 1P)
    04.Music Box 30m (Us 10P , Eur 7P)
    05.Merry Xmas (Us 5P , Eur 1P
    06.Daydream 25m (Us 10P , Eur 3P)
    07.Butterfly (Us 5P , Eur 1P
    08.Number 1s (Us 5P , Eur 1P
    09.Rainbow 10m (Us 3P , Eur 1P
    10.Glitter 3m (Us 1P
    11.Charmbracelet 3m (Us 1P –
    12.Greatest Hits (Us 1P – 1 Eur -)
    13.Remixies (250k in Us)
    14.TEOM (Us 6P – Europe 1P)
    15.E=MC2 2.5m (Us 1P –
    16.Ballads –
    17.Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel ( Us – Gold)
    18.Merry Xmas 2 U US- Gold

    01.Unison (Us P, -)
    02.Dion Chante Plamondon –
    03.Celine Dion (Us 2P, -)
    04.The Colour Of My Love (Us 6P , Eur 4P)
    05.A L’Olympia (Eur P)
    06.D’Eux 10m Europe 8P
    07.Falling Into You (Us 11P , Eur 9P
    08.Live A Paris (Eur 2P)
    09.Lets Talk About Love (Us 10P , Eur 10P
    10.S’Il Suffisait D’Aimer (2P Europe
    11.These Are Special Times (Us 5P , Eur 1P
    12.Au Coeur Du Stade –
    13.All The Way 23m (Us 7m -– , Eur 5m
    14.Collectors Serie (Us Gold –
    15.A New Day Has Come (Us 3P , Eur 3P
    16.One Heart (Us 2P , Eur 1P)
    17.1 Fille Et 4 Types Eur Platine
    18.A New Day…Live In Las Vegas (Us Gold)
    19.Miracle (Us Platinum –
    20.On Ne Change Pas Eur Platine
    21.D’Elles-
    22.Taking Chances (Us 1P , Eur 1P
    23.My Love –

    Do you know how to count ? YOU gave Mariah 18 PLATINUM certifications in Europe and YOU gave Celine 48 PLATINUM certifications there. Feeling stupid now ? You can laugh at your inability to COUNT, nothing funny about my objectivity.

    Moreover :

    Celine’s Canadian CERTIFIED Sales :

    Unison : 7xPLATINUM
    Dion Chante Plamondon : 2xPLATINUM
    Celine Dion : Diamond
    The Colour Of My Love : Diamond
    A L’Olympia : 1xPLATINUM
    D’Eux : 7xPLATINUM
    Falling Into You : Diamond
    Live A Paris : 2xPLATINUM
    Let’s Talk About Love : Diamond
    S’il Suffisait D’Aimer : 4xPLATINUM
    These Are Special Times : Diamond
    Au Coeur Du Stade : Gold
    All The Way : Diamond
    A New Day Has Come : 6xPLATINUM
    One Heart : 3xPLATINUM
    1 Fille & 4 Typees : 1xPlatinum
    Miracle : 1xPLATINUM
    On Ne Change Pas : 3xPLATINUM
    Taking Chances : 4xPLATINUM
    My Love : 2xPLATINUM

    With 44 Platinum Certifications & 6 Diamond & 1 Gold Certifications Celine’s CERTIFIED sales in Canada reach the 10.4m mark. Add the 1m Certified sales of her 80s albums to see that Celine reaches the 11.5m.

    Mariah’s Japanese CERTIFIED Sales :

    Mariah Carey : 4x Platinum
    Emotions : Million
    MTV Unplugged : 2x Platinum
    Music Box 2xMillion
    Merry Christmas 2xMillion
    Daydream 2xMillion
    Butterfly Million
    #1’s 3xMillion
    Rainbow Million
    Glitter 2x Platinum
    Greates 2x Platinum
    Charmbr 2x Platinum
    The Remi
    The Emancipation of Mimi 1xPlatinum
    E=MC² 1xGold 150,000
    Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel Gold

    With 13 Platinum, 2xGold and 12 Million Certifications Mariah’s CERTIFIED sales in Japan reach the 14.5m in certified sales.

    Therefore you can finally shut the fu** up. Celine’s certified sales in Canada stand at 11.5m+ and Mariah’s in Japan stand at 14.5m. Remember we talk about CERTIFIED sales. Their actual sales stand a little higher of course and this is why I have been saying that Mariah sold 18m in Japan, just like her label says.

    #HAVE A SEAT

    With 49m Certified sales in Europe and 50m Certifies sales in Us, Celine
    reaches the 99.000.000 mark in certified sales and not 91m like you said.

    #HAVE ANOTHER SEAT BITCH

    Celine’s certified sales in Japan stand at 6m ! 5m of which come from
    her Million seller albums. TCOML, FIY, LTAL are all 1xMillion and
    All the way is 2xMillion in this country. Add her Platinum and Gold
    Certifications to see Celine reaches the 6m mark in certified sales there.

    #AND ANOTHER SEAT

    Therefore I repeat ! Celine gets 50m Us & 11.5m Canada, 48m Europe, 2.8m Oceania, 6m Japan and her total certified sales from these stand at 118.5m ! Mariah gets 65m Us & 4m Canada & 18m Europe & 2.5m Oceania & 14.5m Japan and her total certified sales from these stand at 104m !

    #SIT AND SPIN

    Celine sold 7.000.000 Albums in Africa. Hence her award.

    #NEXT

    Now I’m gonna destroy your pathetic statements. Take note :

    ”I remind you that Mariah outsells Celine in EVERY Asian market as well as Celine do in Europe.So,my arguments has a solid base.”

    Nope. Your arguments have 0 base because you brought 0 certifications
    for Mariah and 0 certifications for Celine. #FAIL

    Second, I am not the only to say Celine beats Mariah in sales. Their labels say so, media say so, biographies say so, awards say so… so before you question me, go question all these people.

    Third, you don’t speak proper English and you are very dumb to figure anything out. If you find a source to say Mariah is the best seller you would proudly bring it here without questioning it, no matter if the background pic of the link had the word ”Illuminati” in capitals. Either way you have discovered 0 lies and 0 tricks so that’s another seat for you.
    Moreover, you never denounced anything. You just DENY all the facts that show Mariah’s inferiority and create silly excuses. None of your arguments is solid. You just spam the convo.

    ”What had you bring as concrete in this debate ?”

    I brought ALL the certifications for Mariah’s and Celine’s singles.
    I brought ALL their awards, after you kept talking about these awards.
    I brought most of their album sales certifications.
    I brought the music dvd sales after you posted your crap.
    I brought official announcements from Mariah’s label.
    I brought videos that proved who the industry declares as the best seller.
    These are the things I brought. Again TRISH…

    What have YOU brought to this debate ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

    Celine Dion deserved ALL her awards and she deserves even MORE. Celine is not a limited artist you dork. She sings well AND perfoms well and has potential to do anything she wants. You DARE asking who pop singer doesn’t sing well in an industry where people like Britney, Rihanna, Madonna, Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha, Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber, Timberlake, Ricky Martin, Nelly Furtado and way more have been HUGELY SUCCESSFUL ? You are such a dork ! Either way I
    PERFECTLY explained WHY Celine can be called ”musician”.
    If you don’t get, go open a music theory book immediately.

    ”Mariah’s songs receive way more WORLD MUSIC AWARDS”

    FAIL ! Mariah’s WMA are correlated to her sales, not her songs.
    These awards are IRRELEVANT to acclaim. NEXT !

    Mariah and Celine won 5 Grammy in total. But Celine’s songs
    got another 5 Grammy awards that weren’t presented to her. Oops !
    Still my point is valid. Celine’s SONGS have done better. Academy and Golden Globes awards also prove my statements.

    ”Celine received the most recent career awards because she reach Mariah’s level by late, deal with it baby.”

    Exactly. When did I say or imply the opposite ? I clearly say that both Mariah AND Celine deserve their awards. I never said Celine was on Mariah’s level when she wasn’t. You are too much of a retard to make sense though. Poor thing.

    ”Everyone already knows that Celine is successful in concerts,it useless to still talking about it.She still successful in concerts these last years while Mariah still have Hits in major charts.”

    FAIL. First of all Mariah’s 5-6 good hits the past 11 years PALE in comparison to Celine’s 680.000.000 grossing. Any person who knows that 1 + 1 = 2 could see this. Second, Celine is not ”still successful”
    in tours alone. She surpassed everyone in music dvd sales this decade and also proved to be a stable album seller. Can’t say the same for Mariah though.

    ”Where is the so called ”best sellers” popularity and stability sweety ?
    You think album sales of 400k , 1.2m, 2m from compilations and commercial disasters like Taking Chance,One heart and Miracle apply to the best selling female artist ever ? & On top of these no Single sellouts and no Hit in Charts ! ”

    Pathetic troll. Taking Chances sold 3.5m the least, One Heart 5.5m the least and the only flop would be Miracle with 2.5m album sales. Mariah’s albums sold 600k (MCTY), 1.2m (Memoirs) and 2.5m E=MC2. Thing is Miracle received 0 promo and 0 commercial singles were released and 0 videos were made. Still it sold 2.5m which as much E=MC2 sold regardless of the fact that Mariah’s album was largely promoted and had 4 commercially released singles & 4 music videos. Celine’s latest Dvds sold more than Mariah’s latest album These alone speak volumes of what a delusional trash you are.

    ”Do me a favour and stop correlating Celine’s undeniable COMMERCIAL achievements to her talent and success.”

    I NEVER did that ! I have said CLEARLY that Celine sold more than Mariah, while I find Mariah to be a more skilled vocalist and musician. #FAIL

    You can’t even read stupid cow. I feel sorry for you.

    As for Asia and S.America just wait… Once you stop lying about their
    European, Canadian and Japanese certifications, you’re gonna see the truth of what a flop Mariah is in Latin America and how small the Asian
    markets are.

    #ELIMINATED

  175. Divas Live says:

    Keep Dreaming ……………. what a shame Mooriah scarey try to duet with younger artist to have an impact to the people….what a shame

    Mooriah has all the style of singing but the question is why shes always been left behind by Celine Dion

    Look at Breatney Spears she outsold Mariah in tour… thats mean people around the world are sick & tired of Mariah’s whispering ,poor vocal power…no melisma no decoration …no interpretation no voice quality..no originality…… what a shame…… Your Mariah cant beat celine…..

    Celine Dion’s Nasal voice is being embrace by the whole world while
    Mariah’s whispering no voice,cant even hit & hold high notes,,,,, & boooooring whistle are being rejected…..hahahaha poor Butterfly cant soar high……..Celine will shine Again & again…..billions light years away than Mooriah Scarey…..

  176. Divas Live says:

    Celine Dion’s lowest album sales is……Mariah carey’s highest album sale’s…………& there’s nothing you can do about it Because that is the reality that happening ryt now………………… thanks to Justine Beiber she can still manage to stay relevant in music industries….

    Celine Dion Album’s Low in budget can Manage to sold 2m plussss
    While Mariah’s album that high in budget,more ,commercial ,promotion…can only manage to sale 1m plusss…. see the difference …..//////
    Wake…..up….. trash…..your idol is about to whistle again….. to stay relevant…

  177. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ What the what
    I don’t use Illuminati as excuse about ” Celine’s sales are higher than Mariah’s” since they are not.I use them to show how the musical influence is under the Illuminati influence.The denouncers of Illuminati include Celine as a member to this devilish sect,based in many proofs.I am not the one that invent Celine is Illuminati. Inform yourself about it.
    I said in the Madonna Vs Mariah debate that personally I don’t think that Celine is Illuminati because of her kindness and her great personality. But all these are not above the proofs -))
    Here in that debate, I said that Celine is under Illuminati influence via Sony Music Label Tommy Mottola that manipulate her artistic choice since 1990.Nobody could deny that Celine’s success is boosted by Illuminati back up. when we consider her irrelevant awards,citations,titles,the accolades her songs receive although there are not produced,comped by her and are not records in Hit Parade or sales Charts,etc.Celine’s awards and titles have nothing to do with what she achieved in facts.
    Everything is ok about me sweety….

  178. BUTTERFLY says:

    Even the most skilled singers such as Toni Braxton, Lara Fabian, Aretha Franklin etc can’t sing Mariah’s Against All Odds.
    They can sing Mariah’s Open Arms and Celine’s My Heart Will Go On of course,but not Against All Odds.Only Whitney Houston can do.
    Christina Aguilera and Leona Lewis could sing My Heart Will Go On.I am not sure for Kelly,Jennifer and Jessica.

  179. BUTTERFLY says:

    You said that many of the singles you stated charted higher than singles I mentioned.Can you just cite them to me?

    About the sales question,what is matter is that you and What the what LIED ! When you said that Celine’s albums outsold Mariah’s by 20 – 30 million.
    Your list didn’t show a difference of 20- 30 million when we even don’t consider Mariah’s second best market (Asia). 118,4 – 104 =14,4 not 20.
    When we consider Asia+ Africa + Latin America’s sales,Mariah takes the advantage thanks to Asia that she owns hand down.
    So,how could you say Celine sold more albums than Mariah ?
    As worse,how could you say that Celine sold more records than Mariah ?

    Who is partial and unfair ? Trish ? The 5 or 6 people that read this blog will see by themselves.

  180. BUTTERFLY says:

    I remind you that Mariah outsells Celine in EVERY Asian market as well as Celine do in Europe.So,my arguments has a solid base.”
    Yes,this argument has solid base.
    Mariah outsells Celine in :
    -China
    -Hong Kong
    -South Korea
    -Taiwan
    -Philippines
    -etc…
    You said that ” If you find a source to say Mariah is the best seller over Celine you would proudly bring it here without questioning it, no matter if the background pic of the link had the word ”Illuminati” in capitals. Either way you have discovered 0 lies and 0 tricks so that’s another seat for you.

    vanityedge.com/forum/showthread.php?17-Mariah-Carey-Chart-Accomplishments-Sales-amp-Awards

    facebook.com/pages/Mariah-CareyBEST-Selling-Female-Artist-of-All-time/211741578856176?sk=wall

    wikidumper.blogspot.com/2006/11/best-selling-female-recording-artist.html

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABest-selling_music_artist
    atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103759
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists

    These sources says that Mariah outsold Celine in albums.You wanted it,you got it baby.

  181. BUTTERFLY says:

    I denounced Guinness,IFPI,your craps arguments and links etc.What have YOU brought to this debate ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

    Celine Dion doesn’t deserved even the HALF of her awards . Celine is a limited artist you pig. She sings well AND performs well ,but that’s all she can do.Nobody cares about her ” potential” but about what she did in FACTS baby.Celine is very limited like it or hate it.
    Yes, whom pop singer doesn’t sing in an musical industry ? Not every singers are vocalists,but all them have your place in the Music industry.Not everyone loves vocalists. Britney, Rihanna, Madonna, Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha, Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber, Timberlake, Ricky Martin, Nelly Furtado and way more have all their place in music industry,not just Celine.Celine is just a better vocalist and seller than all of them. Most of these artists you mentioned take part in composing and producing many of their own songs unlike Celine.They all have some personal implication in their work as artist unlike Celine.

    Yes,Mariah’s songs receive way more WORLD MUSIC AWARDS than Celine”

    Mariah won 5 Grammy . Composers and Producers of Celine’s songs won 10 Grammy awards,but 4,5 Grammy went to Celine because she performed these songs .Oops.
    Mimi win

  182. Dreamlover says:

    @ TRASHY GUTTERFLY

    *There is no proof Celine is in the Illuminati, only a couple articles posted anonymously in the internet. You have to have an IQ of 30 to swallow what is posted on blogs. Same random pages attack Mariah. We have done this discussion in the past so don’t start again. Moreover don’t post crap that Celine’s career was boosted by Illuminati when Mariah reached superstandom when she was promoted by Tomy M. and then kept her relevance by doing duets with several artists who are strongly correlated
    to the Illuminati parodies. On top of these (This part made me laugh actually) the fact that you consider that Celine’s awards are irrelevant is FAR from being substancial proof of your silly, unsupported claims. So, please come back with something more craftly next time that will prove you are smarter than a puppy.

    *Against All Odds has LOWER mid belts than My Heart Will Go On. Thanx for proving what an ignorant dumbass you are. It is way easier to belt Against All Odds than to belt My Heart Will Go On. I am sticking to the belting part because this is the part you brought up before. Leona doesn’t have low register to sing My Heart Will Go On. Same goes for
    Aguilera and on top of that Aguilera would sound like dying on the belting part since she has never accessed the 5th octave without straining. Same goes for Jessica who is even worse than Aguilera. Only Jennifer could sing My Heart Will Go On cause she is a decent belter, but still her voice has 0 colours and her intonation is just basic. Kelly could so the belting part for sure, but she couldn’t phrase in the lower parts cause her lower register is nonexistent just like Leona’s and Aguilera’s. Deal with these darling. All these are established vocal pedagogy stuff. There aren’t things I imagine of get out of my head to make a point. I find it very funny that you are still talking about vocals when you confounded 1) singing style to singing technique 2) high belts to low belts 3) bad vocal condition to bad singing 4) vocal range to singing range 5) magazine lists to singing ability.

    *I already explain that singles like Where does my heart beat now and If you asked me to charted higher than songs such as Butterfly, Forever, Crybaby, My Love and I also said that there is no logic behind talking about their non certified singles at all. Because if we make a point out of it, then we should also make the same discussion about the certified singles. For instance, if take into account that Anytime you need a friend is close to
    500k, then the same way we could randomly say that we belong toger is
    close to 1.9m sales in Us ! These are just theories and I won’t spend time talking about these stuff. Either way you know that Mariah’s certified sales in Us stand at about 19m and you know that her actual single sales there stand at 31m. On the same proportion the rest 8m singles certified worldwide must equal to about 20m actual sales. And this is why her label and sites and EVERY OTHER SOURCE says Mariah sold somthing more than 50m singles worldwide. Stop posting pathetic excuses.

    *The sales questions is still up to discussion baby. First, admit their certified sales in the major markets and then we talk again. You write in capitals that me and what the what lied ? ? ? Really baby ? If we are liars for saying Celine outsold Mariah for 20-30m albums worldwide, then how should we call YOU for saying Mariah surpasses Celine for 40m singles and another 40m albums worldwide ? ? ?

    *Mariah takes no advantage from the Asian micro markets. Only a LUNATIC would talk about sales DIFFERENCE when she hasn’t even shown ONE certification for ANY Celine or Mariah album in these markets. Aren’t you ashamed to post these ridiculous lies ? Like I said, admit their certifications in Japan, Canada, Us, Oceania and Europe and then we can talk about your delusional thoughts on Asia and Latin America. No further comments on the crap about Asian markets you posted so far. #IGNORED

    LMAO @ the links you brought. First of all, I didn’t ask for them. Second,
    they DESTROY ALL YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENTS. This is what the first link says :

    Approximate album sales worldwide: 148,000,000
    Approximate single sales worldwide: 52,000,000
    Approximate video/DVD sales worldwide: 2,000,000
    Approximate record sales worldwide: 202,000,000

    BAHAHAHA ! LMFAO ! Poor girl. You fell into your own trap..!

    LMAO @ the second link being a FAN MADE Facebook page. My Facebook page declares Celine as the best seller and has more likes. xD

    LMAO @ the thrid link being a FAN MADE 2006 lists which shows Mariah being dumped by Madonna although you still deny that.

    LMAO @ the fourth link being from Wikipedia when in this SAME site Celine and Madonna are recognized for selling more.

    Thank you for these links. THANK YOU. Especially the first one made me laugh SO much. Not only you spent time from your boring life to find these but they also destroyed all your attempts to inflate her album sales. Only a simpleton would expose its own lies like you just did. Bravo !

    *You never denounced Guiness. You lied that it awarded Madonna before and still you haven’t proved that no matter how many times we asked you to bring solid proof about it.

    You never denounced IFPI. You lied it supporrts Nana Mousxouri and
    you haven’t proved that no matter how many times we told you that it was her label that announced her worldwide estimations.

    You never denounced my links because you never explained what made them partial no matter how many times I asked you to ellaborate.

    *You must be very slow so you asked again what I brought here. Ok. I repeat again cause you didn’t get it the first time.

    I brought ALL the certifications for Mariah’s and Celine’s singles.
    I brought ALL their awards, after you kept talking about these awards.
    I brought most of their album sales certifications.
    I brought the music dvd sales after you posted your crap.
    I brought official announcements from Mariah’s label.
    I brought videos that proved who the industry declares as the best seller.
    These are the things I brought. Again TRISH…

    Again my love. What have YOU brought to this debate ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

    *Celine deserves all her awards and even more. Just wait to see how much more she’s gonna get. Celine sings well which is rare in the industry now and she also performs well which is very common but usually bad singers who use autotune and lip are able to perform good like Madonna and Britney. The artists who can carry a tune while performing, being energetic and expressive are very few. I think the best example is Beyonce nowadays. Many people care about potential. However none of Celine’s awards is correlated to her potential. Her awards are about her sales, voice, perfomances, performing skills which are things she does well like you said. So stop being a contradictory cow. Having ”implication” in their works doesn’t make them better artists because in my opinion most of these people do trashy music, so yeah all this is up to opinion. Celine’s vocal superiority isn’t. So don’t ask me again who sings and who doesn’t cause these people don’t sing. Being a SINGer means you can SING. In other words being credited to be a SINGer means you can carry a tune and they can’t. Moving on, Mariah recieved 0 World Music Awards for her songs and their critical acclaim. She got these awards for her career sales and sales per year and for being (annually) the best selling American pop artist or the best selling American rnb artist and so on. I have already brought the awards here and everyone can laugh at you. Celine won 5 Grammy just like Mariah. The rest 5 went to composers exactly because her songs have gained more critical acclaim. And Celine won the most significant Grammy categories. Ooops. Celine wins. On top of that don’t even forget who got more awards in the rest music markets and who got more nominations/wins in Golden Globe Awards and Academy Awards.

    #SLAYED (Again)

  183. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ TRASHY GUTTERFLY

    *There is so many proofs that Celine is in the Illuminati, you are nothing to try to denying them honey. Fail
    Don’t try to imply Mariah I refer to illuminati,you can’t put Mariah in it just Celine is mentioned.You can’t decide to defame illuminati accusations as “fan made” just because they discover that Celine is a member. Celine’s career is boosted by Illuminati that’s why she receive so many accolades ,awards and citations when her songs are even not records in Charts sales,Hits Parade.Any of them doesn’t got her part for producing and composing. All her awards and citations are irrelevants.

    There is no comparison at all between Against All Odds and My Heart Will Go On.You could compare Open Arms with My Heart Will Go On,silly idiot !
    Everyone could sing My Heart Will Go On,but nobody can even dream of singing Mariah’s Against All Odds. Fail
    Aguilera and other girls would sing My Heart Will Go On very well, without any nasal resonance.

    *The sales questions is still up to discussion baby. First, admit that nobody can state about global sales when an entire continent market is not clear.You lied because you said that Celine outsold Mariah when you even don’t include Asian sales in your counts although you know that Mariah’s sales are impressive there unlike Celine’s.their certified sales in the major markets excluded Asia didn’t show a difference of even 20 million.Although Asian sales are not inclu.Your statements are UNFAIR and PARTIAL.So,don’t dare claim that Celine outsold Mariah by even 1 album,because its a LIE !!!!!!!

    *If Celine takes advantage from the European micro markets,why Mariah doesn’t ? Only a LUNATIC and FOOL would talk about sales DIFFERENCE when she hasn’t even shown sales from EVERY MUSIC MARKETS FROM THE WHOLE WORLD ! Otherwise,this is PARTIAL and SUBJECTIVE.

    Honey,you challenged me to post a link showing Mariah is ahead of Celine in sales.I just do it.If I trusted these kind of links I would probably post them since many months before you asked me to.The links you usually posted are not more reliable than those baby,keep dreaming.

    I denounced Guiness and IFPI
    You never denounced IFPI.This is IFPI that said Nana sold over 200 million albums,even in the links I posted IFPI say so. FAIL

    I always denounced your links because you explained how they are all biased and partial.You never explained why you think they are above doubts and partialities.Obviously because you agree with illuminati since put Celine very high.LMAO !
    ALL the certifications ,awards,etc… were always available for everyone.You did nothing.Don’t get proud just to posted them here.What is so impressive to post them in a debate ? The most impressive would be to question their validity.what is true and what is fake among those things.for Mariah’s and Celine’s singles.
    I denounced your lies and theorie,etc..
    . Having ”implication” in their works can make artists obviously better artists because in facts.Producing,compsing etc. require skills and musicianship,thats why Producers and composers are awarded and honored for their work.Without these artists that create songs ,Celine couldn’t be an international singer with an international career.
    Composers and producers won 10 Grammy Awards, because their songs have gained good critical acclaim.4,5 went to Celine just because she performs these songs.
    Celine won 4 Grammy. She won a half Grammy thanks to Peobo Bryson for the song Beauty and the Beast,so she won 4,5 grammy . Mariah won 5 Grammy Awards !!!!

  184. Dreamlover says:

    @ TRASHY GUTTERFLY

    You address this comment to YOURSELF ? LMAO. Your stupidity has
    reached a brand new level.

    *There no established proof for what you claim baby. I could make 3 blogs right now to post same crap about ANY artist. All it takes is spare time and 3 e-mails. I am going to imply whatever I like about Mariah as long as you throw shade to Celine. You said Celine is guided by Mottola right ? I say the same about Mariah who sold more than 100.000.000 and built a legend around her name when she was guided AND married to that man. Mariah’s name has been mentioned too because of her collaborations with
    people such as Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, because of her songs about partying, sex, drugs and also because of her music videos. As you can see, if you or anyone can bash Celine, me and others can also bash Mariah.

    *Celine didn’t receive awards for her hit singles you idiot ! She received them for her album sales, vocals, performing skills and like you said before she really does sing and perform well and like everyone knows she is very popular. #CONTRADICTION … Don’t be mad that your favorite hasn’t been awarded that much. I know it hurts you but this doesn’t mean you have to look like a complete idiot everytime you drag your retarded pressed ass here.

    *Celine hits 2 E5s in MHWGO and Mariah 1 Eb5 in AAO. Of course
    only a dumbass would compare a higher belted note (E5) to a lower one (Eb5). Out of the people you mentioned only Jennifer Hudson could sing
    both songs but she would suck. Celine’s singing in MHWGO isn’t nasal AT ALL. She places the voice in the mask. Do you know what that means ? Nope. Christina and the other girls couldn’t sing and I already explained why.

    *EVERYONE can talk about global sales because their sales are clear and calculated. First stop lying about their certified sales in Us, Canada, Oceania, Europe and Japan and then we move on.

    ”Only a LUNATIC and FOOL would talk about sales DIFFERENCE when she hasn’t even shown sales from EVERY MUSIC MARKETS FROM THE WHOLE WORLD !”

    LMAO. Bitch SHUT THE FU** UP. You are the one to post differences of 40m albums and 40m singles so THANK YOU for calling YOURSELF a lunatic. Second, I can prove their world sales but you don’t let me go further since you post LIES about the major markets.

    FAIL.

    *The links I post come from official international AND acclaimed sources.

    You never denounced Guinness. You lied that it awarded Madonna before and still you haven’t proved that no matter how many times we asked you to bring solid proof about it.

    You never denounced IFPI. You lied it supports Nana Mousxouri and
    you haven’t proved that no matter how many times we told you that it was her label that announced her worldwide estimations.

    You never denounced my links because you never explained what made them partial no matter how many times I asked you to elaborate.

    ”ALL the certifications ,awards,etc… were always available for everyone.”

    Contradictory cow. Yet you couldn’t bring the certification of WBT. FAIL

    Celine’s 4.5 Grammy are in way more important categories than Mariah’s… and Celine’s songs also got 5 more. Mariah’s ? 0

    Therefore you have 9.5 for her discography VS 5 …. OOOOPS!

    So according to this theory Mariah was nominated for 0.5 Academy awards in her entire career, right ? OOOOOPS!

    So sad…

    What is resonance ? What is musicianship ? Which note is the final note in which a female can sing in full chest voice ?

    I am asking these to humiliate you. I know you can’t reply but yet you used all these terms. Why did you use these while you don’t know what they are about ? Because you are DUMBER than a new born puppy.

    Come back with a brain basic bitch.

  185. Dreamlover says:

    @ GUTTERFLY

    Dumbass, you don’t have a musical ear nor actual understanding over music issues. You’re just try defend your fave with some random and inaccurate sh**. Mariah was/is/will be a great singer with a healthy/proper technique (I’m sure you don’t know what technique means) and rare musicality (I’m sure you don’t know what musicality is). As of Christina, no matter if she has a great voice, no matter if you like her tone more than Celine’s she still remains an atrocious singer with an awful technique and several habits that prove musical retardation. This woman sings out of tune and strains. Fact. She has never belted properly a mid belt in her entire career, in or out of studio. Plus, she has immense pitch issues. Comparing Aguilera, Jessica to Celine Dion is like comparing sh** to delicate chocolate. It is unbelievable and rather ridiculous that a person who supports Mariah’s and Whitney’s vocals also finds Christina’s and Jessica’s singing to be good. Saying that Christina could sing My Heart Will Go ON song is like saying Christina could sing Mariah’s I Don’t Wanna Cry, Forever, So Blessed, Vanishing, Open Arms. She couldn’t sing these because all these songs are full of mid belts (I am sure you don’t know which notes are considered mid belts). I know you are going to repeat the same things you repeated again and again, but remember that I can also repeat every statement. Moreover, keep in mind that you are unable to define, resonance, musicianship and chest voice. Hence you are not in position to judge anyone’s vocals.

    Bottom line… Out of the singers you mentioned… the list goes…

    Mariah > Celine > Kelly > Jennifer > Leona > Christina > Jessica

    You look like a total idiot trying to bash Celine’s singing when I already
    said several times that Mariah is the better singer.

    #Bitch Bye !

  186. Divas Live says:

    Celine Dion Winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnsssssssssssss………!!!!!!!!!!!

  187. Dreamlover says:

    @ Divas Live

    So true. Please take note how Gutterfly will be unable to reply to my questions about resoance, musicianship, chest voice. It’s gonna be very funny given the fact that SHE used these terms.

  188. Divas Live. says:

    ?????? why??? shes not answering…..?????/? hmmmmm……??

  189. Dreamlover says:

    @ Divas Live

    LOL

    She can’t even construct an argument of her own. The bitch is so brain dead that addressed her latest ridiculous post to herself and not me. She has extreme mental issues and 0 understanding of music terms. Such an embarrassment.

    Santa Claus didn’t bring her the working brain she requested this year. :/

  190. Divas Live. says:

    AND…………….THE WINNER IS CELINE DION………………..

    wELCOME TO……….////// CELINE DION///////…………..ERA.

  191. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Dreamfu**er
    You address this comment to YOUR DEEP A-HOLE ? LMAO. Your obsession for this wrinkled camel become exaggerate and make you completely delusional and fool .

    – All illuminati accusations against Celine are established facts that are based on solid proofs.Only Illuminati supporters try to deny it.FAIL

    – Celine continue today to be guided by Mottola after 21 years under Illuminati influence. Mariah was always rebelled against him since her debut.She even change her musical genre after 1995 then left Mottola. Since 1996, Mottola and Sony team focused in Celine’s career and promoted her mainly over Mariah because she was a polite puppet that did anything and everything they want to.So,don’t try to equal her to Mariah about Mottola’s influence. FAIL

    – Since 1996 till today,Mariah’s career lies in her talent,her creativity,her musicianship and her unreachable voice. FAIL

    – Artistic collaborations can’t imply someone into Illuminati.According to your stupid theory,we are all illuminati as we listen to music from Illuminati artists etc. FAIL

    – Drugs, sex, alcohol, etc..have to do with morality.Not to a devilish sect. FAIL
    -Yes,Celine receive awards for her album sales, vocals, performing skills,then ? Why she has so many awards for these banal achievements? You gave me reason dear.She’s highly overrated. This doesn’t hurt me at all since I already know that Celine’s awards are irrelevant. My favorite artist deserve many billion awards over Celine,don’t dream. FAIL

    – There is no comparison between MHWGO and Mariah’s AAO vocal notes.The whole world would agree with it.Your little musical theories and knowledge can nothing in it. FAIL
    – Christina and all other girls can sing MHWGO very well !

    – EVERYONE FAIR can talk about global sales ONLY if they bring sales from every markets worldwide,not only the market that favorise their favorite artist. FAIL

    LMAO. Slut SHUT THE FU** UP. You are the one to post differences of 20 -30m albums .FAIL.

    – The links I post come from official international fan made AND acclaimed Illuminati partial sources. FAIL

    – I denounced your links, Guinness and IFPI with so many irrefutable proofs that you try to deny. FAIL

    Celine’s 4.5 Grammy just thanks to producers and composers since she didn’t deserve them.There are so many better vocalists that could perfom the masterpiece songs created by composers and producers. FAIL

    Therefore you have 0 for Celine’s discography VS 5 for Mimi …. OOOOPS!

    – I am not your puppet,how dare you asked me questions about vocal pedagogy ? Do you want to make swallow your bullcraps interpretations about vocal notes??? Hahaha ! You are not enough to do it. Try again. FAIL

    What is wrong if I don’t have vocal pedagogy? Celine herself doesn’t have vocal pedagogy,neither musicianship.You can humiliate your wrinkled idol,not me sweety. She’s just literate enough to write her name and nickname since she dropped her junior high school so young… FAIL

  192. BUTTERFLY says:

    PS :- The links you post come from official international fan made AND acclaimed Illuminati partial sources. FAIL

  193. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Live:
    AND……………. THE WINNER IS MARIAH CAREY………………..

    ……….////// MARIAH CAREY ///////…………..REIGNS NOBODY CAN DETHRONE HER. THE VOICE RUUUUUUUUUUUUULES !!!!!!!!!!
    The nasal era is over *************

  194. Dreamlover says:

    You addressed your latest post to yourself dumb bitch. Read again your embarrassment. I never addressed any of my comments to myself.

    The so called camel accomplished in her career and life way more things than you or your ghetto family would ever dream off so you’re a big nobody to judge her. Go back to your trailer park and pray to God to give you a fu**ing working brain, filthy parasite.

    All Illuminati accusations for Mariah are established. The woman fu**ed with the Illuminati leader, collaborated with Illuminati artists, influenced Illuminati artists and sang devilish, suggestive songs and you will deal.

    Mottola isn’t correlated to Sony BMG Anymore. He quit LONG AGO.
    #Embarrassed It’s a lucky thing Mariah slept with LA Reid and several
    other producers (all of them Illuminati) and made her record Illuminati songs to boost her career and had a good moment in 2005. Still, she dumped them all and got married in 2008 (in a church) and therefore she flopped hard.

    Celine’s career is correlated to her voice, performing skills and musicianship and great songs and this is why it is much bigger than Mariah’s. :)

    I don’t have to give ANY reason for Celine’s awards. The fact that YOU don’t agree to these isn’t enough to make me explain this crap. I’d like someone to explain me first why Mariah got all these awards that she didn’t deserve.

    My Heart Will Go On is harder to sing than Against All Odds so yes. No comparison indeed.

    Christina could choke, collapse and die in any attempt to sing ANY Celine song. :)

    I post differences of 20-30m sales while you post differences of 80m sales.

    You posted 0 links from official sources, just Facebook pages and Wikipedia because this is as far as your nonexistent brain can go.

    You never denounced links, Guinness or IFPI. You are too much of sh** to denounce anything. Go finish high school and then we talk again.

    Celine’s 9.5 Grammy awards for her songs, sales, vocals slay Mariah’s 5.

    What is resonance ? What is musicianship ? What is chest voice ? Bitch google this words. Even a random definition would be better than 0 answers. It’s less humiliating.

    Celine has actually OPENLY cited her vocal strengths and flaws not only in Biographies but also in interviews too. Hence she knows her limits and own abilities. Hence she has a good ear and knowledge. Mariah has a good ear too. This is why she stated some years ago ”If God gives me my voice and octaves back, I’m gonna stop drinking” … see ?

    It’s not my fault I am way more educated than you. You obviously couldn’t comprehend any music terms or any of my arguments due to your dyslexia or due to plain stupidity.

    Quick Question : Guess who made it to the top 10 of the highest earners of 2011 and who was dumped… (Dumped AGAIN!)

    Baby, I can also copy paste your posts and spam the convo. XD

    Go put your dunce cap on, return to your street corner and I’ll tell you when to take it off.

  195. Dreamlover says:

    @EVERYONE

    Gutterfly said that the blogs that talk about Celine being in the Illuminati are an established proof. Mariah’s name is also mentioned a lot in several blogs no matter how the insect tries to deny it.

    Here :

    1) answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110114172218AARMG1p

    2) abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread679839/pg1

    3) godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message797711/pg1

    4) mediaexposed.tumblr.com/post/5078791166/britney-spears-hold-it-against-me-mk-ultra-multiple

    5) youtube.com/watch?v=lbsIFaDHQYE

    6) youtube.com/watch?v=MUgXgeZBs28

    How come blogs are an established fact when it comes to Celine and not an established fact when it comes to Mariah ? Biased much ? Unfair much ?

    Like I said… If someone can throw shade to Celine (who is one of the FEW humble, kind and good, family oriented people in the industry), I can do the same with Mariah. :)

    @GUTTERFLY

    If you tell me again that these blogs aren’t enough to prove something for Mariah, then you know my reply… Then these blogs aren’t enough to prove something for Celine too. You can’t have it both ways, when you talk with me. Stay in your street corner with your dunce cap on like I commanded.

    #STAY MAD & PRESSED

  196. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    You know, since all you post is trash, unintelligent, and hard to understand, I’ve decided to only comment on one thing you said or claimed per post… starting after this comment, because EVERYTHING you said or i could understand made me laugh and/or think how mental you are.
    First of all, the DUMBEST thing you said, or should I say didn’t say, was explain what words like resonance and musicianship mean. I mean the dumbest moron would’ve just looked it up online and post it, no matter how wrong or stupid the definitions were, at least you gave something to show that you have the tiniest piece of brain left in there. Who cares if you don’t know what these words mean??? It just proves that you have no idea what you’re talking about and just made a MUCH bigger fool out of yourself.
    But you didn’t.
    You said that Celine didn’t deserve any of her awards, but this is your opinion, and not a fact, so NOBODY cares. If you think these are actual facts and not opinions, like what you thought about beauty and appearance, then… I can’t do anything else about it except tell you to go to a doctor. Or go back to elementary school.
    And how do you know these sources are “biased and Illuminati”?
    ANSWER: You don’t!
    You just can’t accept the fact that there are REAL sources that say Celine has had a bigger success, unlike you, who don’t even give us ONE. And I will keep repeating this until you give us a REAL source and or admit that Celine’s had a bigger success than Mariah. But you won’t. So I can’t do anything about that.
    And you know what? I know EXACTLY what your comment is going to be. You’re just going to disagree with everything I said and give excuses for why you’ve been owned since the day you became apart of this discussion, and then end your post with insults towards Celine, me, and everyone else who supports Celine.
    I’m sorry for being mean, but you needed to hear it from someone, if your parents won’t tell you.

  197. TRISH IS A COMPULSIVE LIAR says:

    List of Lies :

    1) Mariah sold 40.000.000 albums more than Celine.

    2) Mariah sold 40.000.000 singles more than Celine.

    3) Mariah has #1s in Fidji, Jamaica and Heiti.

    4) Mariah is more popular than Celine in Africa.

    5) Mariah is more popular than Celine in Oceania.

    6) Mariah is more popular than Celine in Uk.

    7) Mariah is more popular that Celine in Netherlands.

    8) Celine’s sold 140m albums by 2004 and 150m by now.

    9) Mariah sold 200m albums worldwide.

    10) Mariah sold 100m singles worldwide.

    11) Mariah sold more music dvds than Celine in Us.

    12) Mariah sold more music dvds than Celine worldwide.

    13) Mariah’s perfumes line is more popular than Celine’s.

    14) Mariah is richer than Celine.

    15) Mariah’s AIWFCIY sold more copies than Celine’s MHWGO.

    16) Mariah has more European hits in the 00s than Celine.

    17) Mariah sold more than 25.000.000 albums in Japan.

    18) Mariah sold 60.000.000 albums in Asia if not 50.000.000.

    19) Mariah sold as much as Celine in Europe ?

    20) MHWGO is full of nasal resonance.

    Exposed.

    All these after she brought 0 album certifications, 0 single certifications, 0 official announcements, 0 links and after ignoring basic terms such as resonance and musicianship.

    Failure is a life standard for the uneducated morons…

    You are a mental case darling, ask for help immediately !

    *shrugs*

  198. Divas Live. says:

    hAHAHAHAHAH YOUR mARIAH cAREY IS a about to loose
    her breath again ,,,and now ….ladys & gentle men be prepare for another new year..
    Another huge Flop Albums
    Another huge Flop Concert
    Another huge Flop Movies
    ladys & gentle Cow …. introducing ThE Queen Of Flops…..

    MRs Mariah Cannon……..

    hehehehe……….are you ready to be entertain with a flop artist????/

    no!!no! People nowadays are smart enough they don’t need to buy albums & mariah careys concert because they know Mariah Will will lipsyncing again again……boring…no voice quality,,,,,,,,

  199. Divas Live. says:

    no melesma,,,,,,,,
    no decoration…..
    no interpretation///////
    no breath control……..
    no originality………..like wheatney houston said
    no voice….
    can’t hold a high notes…..
    Can’t dance….
    can’t entertain.,,,,,,,
    for the total of 100% BOOOO BOOORING PERFORMANCE

  200. Divas Live. says:

    hahahahahahaha………

  201. QueenWhitneyHouston says:

    Mariah in the Illuminati? Very shocked! I will make video about this and put it at you-tube so everyone knows.Thank a lot for saying so.I love her but she sucks.her fans always horrible and delusional.She can’ t sing anymore and they delusional call her ”The Voice”.Sorry Whitney is ”The Voice”.It’s sad really.Sorry my English not so good, not my first language.I’m from Argentina. Queen Whitney and Queen Celine always popular here, Queen Mariah not.My generation still know Queen Mariah for the sexy videos.She Queen of Payola, Flops, playback, cancelled tours, Illuminati and silicone.I love her but the mean fans made me do this.sorry.her fans so horrible and mean to everyone.

  202. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Dreamsucker : You addressed your latest post to your blinded and silly allies,not to me.

    ” My ghetto family ” Why do you say that ??? Hahaha.Do you think that I’m black because I support Mariah Carey ? Do you think that you are superior to people who live in Ghetto ? Surprise,I am white.
    Do me a favor and don’t introduce racist question in that debate ashamed cannibal. Do you try to improve Celine as more successful than Carey because she’s 100 % white unlike Mariah ? This is why she’s worldwide overrated ?
    Thanks to say this ,I finally discover why you can’t accept that Mariah is way better than her.
    Listen to me my love,if there would be an artist who doesn’t make me dream in the whole planet,this is Celine Dion.Why could I get jealous about her ? Her money would be the only one reason.
    But,the most important for me this is love.Celine can dream about guys that are interested on me although I am not famous,neither rich.Except her godfather Rene,she could buy men thanks to her money or her popularity,but not thanks to her status of a simple woman.Her money and her popularity doesn’t mean that she has a better life than me idiot..Don’t judge me because I not not as rich and famous as Celine.You are not in place to talk about God and prayers when you treat me and my family as ” Ghetto” God loves everyone,no matter he’s skin complexion ,no matter if he’s rich or poor.
    I remind you that I belong to Caucasian people,but that mean nothing.I don’t like people from Ghetto only because they love violence and behave like rebels.But I don’t think that they are inferior to me and other persons with a different skin complexion..Be careful with what you say idiot.

    All Illuminati accusations for Celine are established. The woman fu**ed with an Illuminati leader since age 12 , sell her soul to devil to reach success,money ,popularity and glory.Sings Illuminati songs,makes satanic symbols,etc.

    Celine gave blowjobs to Rene,Mottola, Goldman,David foster and all other composers and producers that worked with her and create songs for her,as she’s too much ugly to be fu**ed by them.She screams hard and make pulls and faces to have success in concerts,but flopped in alb albums sales since 2003 till today

  203. BUTTERFLY says:

    Celine’s career is correlated to recycled songs,clown,pull faces,nasal voice,predictable performances,irrelevant awards and citations, Illuminati back up and this is why Mariah’s is much bigger than her :)

    My Heart Will Go On is easier than any Aguilera’s song.Aguilera, Lewis, Hudson, Clarkson,Simpson,etc… have all harder songs than MHWGO.Moreover,any of these vocalists sound nasal and dry.
    Celine couldn’t sing Christina’s Beautiful or any other songs.

    I always denounced links, Guinness or IFPI with irrefutable proofs.Keep babbling your hating diarrhea. Advice Celine to finish her high school for being able to take part in her next albums and built a real legacy for her fans.

    Celine’s 0 Grammy awards for her songs, sales, vocals can’t face Mariah’s 5.

    What is resonance ? Listen to any Celine’s song and you’ll hear the nasal resonance in every of her songs.

    I am not the only one ignorant about music terms and vocal pedagogy.Your idol is worse than me in this,believe me.

  204. BUTTERFLY says:

    EVERYONE ??? You surely meant the 5 or 6 people.
    Mariah runs illuminati’s influence since 1990’s.Celine stay in illuminati. What is hard to understand ?

    @ What the what:
    You suck !anything you claim here is bullcraps and fanatic delusions.You already said that Celine outsold Mariah by 30 million albums without any proof.Bring fact proving your lie before saying anything here,ok ?

  205. BUTTERFLY says:

    List of Lies :

    1) Celine sold 20 – 30 million. albums more than Mariah.

    2) Mariah sold only 5 – 7 million singles more than Celine.

    3) Celine has more Hits than Mariah in Europe.

    4) Celine sold more than Mariah in Oceania.

    5) Celine is more popular than Mariah in Oceania.

    6) Celine is more popular than Mariah in South America.

    7) Celine is more popular than Mariah in Brazil .

    8) Celine is the best selling artist of 1990 decade not Mariah..

    9) Celine sold more albums worldwide than Mariah

    10) Celine’s My Heart Will Go On is a harder song than Mariah’s Against All Odds

    11) Celine deserves more awards than Mariah

    12) Celine accomplish more in music than Mariah

    13) Celine is richer than Mariah

    14) Celine’s MHWGO sold more copies worldwide than Mariah’s AIWFCIY

    15) Celine has more European hits in 2000’s than Mariah

    16) Celine’s global sales outsold Mariah’s although he doesn’t consider the Asian continent in his count.

    17) Celine deserves all her awards and citations

    etc…

  206. BUTTERFLY says:

    @Divas Live : A celine fan who talk about originality ? Which originality Celine has ? To stand that other artists give her new songs to prepare an album ? To recycled other artists songs ? About voice,just clean up your ears.Celine sound like a parrot

  207. Dreamlover says:

    GUTTERFLY

    Why do you reply ? I didn’t give you permission ! You should still be in your corner with your dunce cap on learning English and studying music theory as I said. xD

    ALL my previous comments are addressed to YOU. Your dyslexia doesn’t help. Poor thing.

    Ghetto is a reference to your low education level and poor comprehension skills. You mentioned violence. Really bitch ? This comes from the person who wanted to spit into Celine’s face, enter Madonna’s house and also beat MOFF and punch me ? #DRAGGED. Do you think that you are superior than a woman that you call ”camel” ? Oops.

    Pathetic little parasite… Celine has more money, more fame than you and MOST IMPORTANTLY she is a well balanced person (not some crazy bitch who threatens and insults behind her PC), speaks English AND french better than you (Therefore you’d rather finish elementary school), can make fu**ing sense when she is talking (she doesn’t have comprehension issues like you), she has never insulted anyone the 31 years she is active, she has actual talent. You are a pest spending time behind your PC, talking about HER and dissing HER. Hence she is a much superior human being. Made sense now ? If you want me to believe that you are good looking show me a link of your Facebook account. If you are, I will admit it.

    ”be careful to what you say idiot” Darling, you have to know that in life you get as much respect as you give. Keep bashing Celine and I’m gonna keep bashing you on any level I want. Simple as that. :)

    And there you are. You are talking about God (and how he loves human beings) and THEN you claim that Celine is evil while she is married in a church, is baptized (just like her kids), has MANY songs praising songs, even one of the few songs she composed is about Christmas and universal love. If you could only make sense. Like I said earlier if the accusations for Celine are valid, then the accusations for Mariah (which are more) are also valid. You can’t and you will NEVER
    have it both ways when you are talking to ME. Got that ?

    ”make pull faces to have success in concerts” You know imbecile… what you just said means that people prefer to pay money to see Celine pulling faces than going to Mariah’s concerts to listen to her voice. Can you understand that you are telling us that Mariah’s vocals aren’t enough to beat Celine’s facial expressions ? #Dumped.

    The rest comments about vocals are ignored unless you tell me what
    resonance, musicianship, chest voice are. Moreover, what is the vocal
    range of the song Beautiful that Celine can’t reach ? In what key is that song sang ? What is special about its intervals ?

    You never denounced links, Guiness and IFPI. You just LIED that Guinness
    awarded Madonna’s previous sales and brought 0 links and then LIED that
    IFPI announced fake sales for Mousxouri and brought 0 proof. This is the definition of denouncing for you ? You think that everything that comes out of your little brain is proof ? So if you tell me that Celine’s ”One Heart” album sold 2m copies worldwide and I say it sold 9m I have denounced what you said ? Is it THAT simple ? Stay failing brainless insect.

    Celine has received 5 Grammy awards and 5 more went to the creators. You mad ? All these while English is her 2nd language. You pressed ? Stay mad at the Queen’s success and unreachable acclaim. I have been here for so much time and I NEVER said about ANY artist that got awards they didn’t deserve cause I’m not pressed, desperate, concerned and pathetic like YOU.

    ”I am not the only one ignorant about music terms and vocal pedagogy.Your idol is worse than me in this,believe me.”

    Nope. Go read ANY of her biographies where she OPENLY talks about notes, her flaws, her strengths, her own limits. She also repeats these stuff in french interviews (in 2007 and 2008) and even when she went to X Factor as a mentor. Mariah has a good ear as well. This is why she said herself that ”if God gives me my voice and range back, I’m gonna stop drinking”…

    In vocal pedagogy there is no term such as ”nasal resoance” EPIC FAIL.
    Not only you can’t define your SH**, but you also can’t use them properly. UTTER FAIL.

    ”EVERYONE ??? You surely meant the 5 or 6 people.” I am sorry… but don’t you always mention ”the readers” ? xD How come you react now ?

    #NEXT

    ”Celine stay in Illuminati. What is hard to understand ? ”

    Mariah stays Illuminati. What is hard to understand ? Have you seen the blogs that prove so ? I can also show you NEW you tube videos talking about it and more blogs. Oooopsie !

    @ LIST OF LIES – A good Joke.

    Bitch PLEASE learn how to read and comprehend. I know God has been unfair to you for making you dumber than a stick but PLEASE try.

    #1 is NOT a lie. It is STILL up to discussion but you have destroyed the debate by insulting Celine, saying she doesn’t deserve awards and posting Illuminati crap. Stop talking crap and then I show you sales from rest music markets.

    #2 Mariah IS ahead of Celine for ONLY 7m singles like I PROVED. Mariah’s certified sales stand at 27m and Celine’s at 21m. Either way your big fat lie that Mariah sold 40-60m singles more than Celine is DENOUNCED. See ? This is how denouncing works.

    #3 I NEVER said Celine has more hits than Mariah in Europe. LIE.

    #4, #5, #6, #7 ARE true.

    #8 I NEVER said Celine is the best seller of the 90s. LIE.

    #9 Still up to discussion. FAIL.

    #10 MHWGO is harder to sing than AOD. A science that is FAR superior
    than your delusion says so. You act like I said that every Celine song
    is harder than Mariah’s. You are an imbecile indeed. NEXT !

    #11 This is up to opinion you moron. How come saying that Celine deserves more than Mariah is a lie ? It can’t be a lie since it is an OPINION, not a fact. #EMBARRASSED

    #12 Commercially EASILY.

    #13 LMAO. So Forbes & labels lie ? FAIL.

    #14 MHWGO sold 11m with its certified sales being close to 6m, AIWFCIY sold 6m with its certified sales stand at 4m. EPIC FAIL. You still can’t swallow that your faves best seller is a non factor ? :(

    Funny how you put words in my mouth to accuse me of lying. Second, you are still dreaming that Mariah sold more than Celine in Oceania ? YOU ADMITTED that Celine sold SLIGHTLY more there and now you change it.
    You said it YOURSELF a few DAYS before. #CONTRADICTION

    YOU.ARE.A.BIG.FU**ING.MESS.AND.A.JOKE.

    #STAY FAILING RETARD

  208. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    You just proved how predictable you are, telling me that I suck and that I should bring my sources before you bring yours. Please tell me where I said 30 million. I’m honestly asking this, because I might’ve missed it. And how do you know “anything you claim here is bullcraps and fanatic delusions.”??? Your copying and pasting is so dumb, you don’t even have your own brain to work with. You’re going to be so embarrassed when or if I tell you how old I am. I mean come on! I have better grammar, originality, and a BRAIN!
    Get over yourself.

  209. TRISH IS A COMPULSIVE LIAR AND MENTAL CASE says:

    1) AIWFCIY sold more than MHWGO.

    *All I Want For Christmas Is You

    2xPlatinum in Us (2m), Million Japan (1m), Platinum in Australia (70k),
    Gold in Uk (200k), Gold in Denmark (50k) , Gold in Italy (50k)

    Certified sales : 3.4m

    *My Heart Will Go On

    Diamond France (1m+), 4xPlatinum in Germany (2m+),
    3xPlatinum in Belgium (150k), 2xPlatinum in Australia (140k)
    2xPlatinum in Japan (400k), 2xPlatinum in Netherlands (150k)
    2xPlatinum in Norway (50k) 2xPlatinum in Sweden (50k)
    2xPlatinum in Uk (1m+) Platinum in Greece (50k), Gold Austria (25k)
    Gold in Us (500k)

    Certified Sales : 5.5m+

    2) Mariah is more popular in Brazil AND Latina America.

    MARIAH IS A FLOP IN LATIN AMERICA.

    1) BRAZIL

    Mariah sells almost 2m in Brazil (5xPlatinum and 4xGold in Brazil). A VERY poor market for her. ABPD certifications are based on the amount of records shipped to stores minus returns, meaning if there are many copies of an album on the shelves at retail and there is no demand for them, they will be shipped back to the record label and will not be counted in the certification.

    Before 2001:

    Gold = 100,000 shipped to retailers
    Platinum = 250,000 shipped to retailers

    Since 2001:

    Gold = 50,000 shipped to retailers
    Platinum = 125,000 shipped to retailers

    Since 2006:

    Gold = 30,000 shipped to retailers
    Platinum = 60,000 shipped to retailers

    Take Note Now : This is the list according to which Wikipedia says that Mariah’s Music Box sold 800.000 in Brazil.

    Best selling female international albums in Brazil

    1)Whitney Houston – The Bodyguard (1992) – 1.1 million

    2)Madonna – The Immaculate Collection (1990) – 1.0 million

    3)Madonna – True Blue (1986) – 1.0 million

    4)Celine Dion – Let’s Talk About Love – 1.0 million

    5)Shakira – Pies descalzos (1995) and Britney Spears – Oops!…I Did It Again (2000)- 0.9 million

    6)Alanis Morissette – Jagged Little Pill (1995) and Britney Spears – …Baby One More Time 1999 – 0.84 million

    7)Madonna – Ray of Light (1998) – 0.83 million

    8)Mariah Carey – Music Box (1993) – 0.8 million

    9)Madonna – Like a Prayer (1989) – 0.76 million

    10)Celine Dion – Falling Into You (1996) – 0.75 million

    Celine pretty much destroys Mariah’s entire catalogue in Brazil with only the releases of Let’s Talk About Love (1m) and Falling Into You (750k). OUCH! I don’t even have to mention other platinum or #1 albums there such as All The Way, A New Day Has Come. I can if you want to though…
    If you say that the list is flasified, then you invalidate Mariah’s best selling album there. Don’t forget that ! Like I told you based on THIS list, Mariah’s wikipedia page metnions sales of 800k for Music Box in Brazil.

    2) MEXICO

    Mariah sold ALMOST 500k in Mexico (1xPlatinum & 4xGold Certifications). Mariah is pretty much unknown here. Her best seller is just Music Box which is 1xPlatinum. Even Celine’s 00s albums such as ANDHC and OH which aren’t her best sellers there have reached #1 and #2. FIY, LTAL, ATW are all #1 as well.

    3) ARGENTINA

    Mariah sold almost 250.000 in Argentina. Another poor market.
    Music Box is 2xPLATINUM, Daydream 1xPlatinum and her 1998, 1999 releases have gone Gold.

    CAPIF (international) certifications are based on the amount of records shipped to stores minus returns, meaning if there are many copies of an album on the shelves at retail and there is no demand for them,
    they will be shipped back to the record label and will not be counted in the certification.

    Before 2000

    Gold = 30,000 shipped to retailers and record clubs
    Platinum = 60,000 shipped to retailers and record clubs

    Since 2000

    Gold = 20,000 shipped to retailers and record clubs
    Platinum = 30,000 shipped to retailers and record clubs

    Celine’s Let’s Talk About Love is 2xPlatinum in Argentina, Falling Into You is 1xPlatinum, A New Day Has Come is 2xPlatinum, All The Way is 1xPlatinum. These 5 Albums are enough for Celine to surpass the 300.000 mark and beat Mariah.

    As you can see Mariah has sold LESS than 3.000.000 in Latin America. There AREN’T any more markets to certify sales so don’t even bother searching a google map or wikipedia. I am sure you think that even people who live in the Amazon go and buy Mariah’s records. LOL. Maybe jungle people too. LMAO. And even if there are more little markets (which there aren’t) it is OBVIOUS that Celine Dion is WAY more popular than Mariah in Brazil & Mexico & Argentina –> Latin America. Mariah is only remembered there for Music Box in general and ”I Want To Know What Love Is” in Brazil. Celine has more sales, a Special Award, ”My Heart Will Go On” and song like ”All By Myself” have done VERY well in Latin Billboard Charts too. The cuba Remixes of ”Immortality” were very successful in Brazil too. Celine has also recorded more Spanish songs than Mimi exactly because she’s more demanded. Celine has also released more local singles in these areas such as ”Dreaming Of You” and ”Make You Happy” and ”When I Need You” (Although none of these was a hit song). A small detail too : Celine’s Spanish songs were never panned like Mariah’s who had accent issues and grammar mistakes too. Mariah isn’t popular at all in Latin America dear.

    Celine Dion IS.

    3) Mariah is richer than Celine.

    Celine made it to the top 10 of Forbes in 2011. Mariah didn’t. Celine is richer indeed. She was in the top 10 all the previous years and was put ahead of Mariah in 2007 when their CAREER totals were estimated.

    Again TRISH : Can you explain these LIES by giving straight answers ?

    1) Mariah sold 40.000.000 albums more than Celine.

    2) Mariah sold 40.000.000 singles more than Celine.

    3) Mariah has #1s in Fidji, Jamaica and Haiti.

    4) Mariah is more popular than Celine in Africa.

    5) Mariah is more popular than Celine in Oceania.

    6) Mariah is more popular than Celine in Uk.

    7) Mariah is more popular that Celine in Netherlands.

    8) Celine’s sold 140m albums by 2004 and 150m by now.

    9) Mariah sold 200m albums worldwide.

    10) Mariah sold 100m singles worldwide.

    11) Mariah sold more music dvds than Celine in Us.

    12) Mariah sold more music dvds than Celine worldwide.

    13) Mariah’s perfumes line is more popular than Celine’s.

    14) Mariah is richer than Celine.

    15) Mariah’s AIWFCIY sold more copies than Celine’s MHWGO.

    16) Mariah has more European hits in the 00s than Celine.

    17) Mariah sold more than 25.000.000 albums in Japan.

    18) Mariah sold 60.000.000 albums in Asia if not 50.000.000.

    19) Mariah sold as much as Celine in Europe.

    20) MHWGO is full of nasal resonance.

  210. Divas Live. says:

    @ Butterfly

    oh really how do you call Mariah Carey’s Renditions of

    Ill Be there …… by Micheal jackson
    Open Arms …..By Journbey
    I Cant Live …… by Air Supply
    Do You Know ….. by Barbara Streisand
    I wanna Know what Love is……foreigner

    all this song are sang by Mariah Scarey…..using her silicon boobs as her decoration …so stop talking Sh** bitch ugly cow because your idol is also recycled some hits do some research about what your Mariah Scarey sang so that you will not be call IGNORANT …..OKEY…?????

  211. Divas Live. says:

    rECYCLE……??? RECYCLE YOUR bRAIN GO BACK TO MENTAL HOSPITAL,,,,,,,,IT WILL HELP YOU…A lot….hahahaha

  212. Divas Live. says:

    Singing…… Endless Love……….. using her boobs Again & again as her decoration….what a shame ….shes about to lose her breath every time she sang….Clean up ?Your ears… just use gasoline to clean it okey/….???

  213. Dreamlover says:

    TRISH… It is ok… You can reply now. Take the dunce cap off and post your answers. However, if you post something silly, then you’ll have to stay in your corner wearing your beautiful dunce cap again. I am warning you. :)

    TRISH —> google.gr/imgres?imgurl=http://mrkatzoff.org/wp-content/uploads/dunce-cap-copy.jpg&imgrefurl=http://mrkatzoff.org/2010/07/the-mystical-origins-of-teaching-math/dunce-cap-copy/&h=301&w=400&sz=31&tbnid=vF5wRHDIAt-_DM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=129&prev=/search%3Fq%3DDUNCE%2BCAP%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=DUNCE+CAP&docid=VA6VN2rK8EdatM&sa=X&ei=naYXT5vDKc_m-gbsvPzzCQ&ved=0CFUQ9QEwBg&dur=44

    LMFAO !

  214. BUTTERFLY says:

    @Dreamsucker:
    – All your previous comments are addressed to your deep asshole and your idiot allies that applause any crap you brought without even understand anything.

    – Do you think that a woman with a horse face is superior to me just because she’s richer than me and supported by Illuminati?

    – ” Celine is married in a church, is baptized (just like her kids), has MANY songs praising songs, even one of the few songs she composed is about Christmas and universal love.” All these are not enough to clear her in Illuminati accusations. Find most convincing arguments to post.

    – I denounced links,Guinness and IFPI.Keep denying it
    .
    – There is no need to have vocal pedagogy to notice the nasal resonance in every Celine’s songs

    – You are the one that corrected me when I said “readers” then say there is just 5 or 6 people that follow this discussion.Now you said ” EVERYONE” to refer to them.So,I was right when I said “readers”
    .
    – Your devilish thoughts can’t imply Mariah in Illuminati.Celine is the one that belongs to this sect.

  215. BUTTERFLY says:

    List of Truth

    – Mariah is more popular than Celine in Oceania ( Fiji, New Zealand,Singapore,etc. )

    -Mariah is more popular than Celine in South America

    – AIWFCIY sold more than MHWGO

    -Mariah is more popular than Celine in Brazil

    -Mariah is more popular than Celine in West Indies ( Jamaica, Haiti,etc.)

    -Mariah has more hits in Europe than Celine for both decades :
    1990 and 2000

    -AAO is harder than MHWGO
    -MHWGO is slightly nasal ( like every Celine’s songs.)
    -and so on…

  216. BUTTERFLY says:

    Divas Live : Mariah has a few covering songs from her discography,but she doesn’t make albums mainly by covering songs like Celine.Mariah just proved that she’s able to give unique renditions of some old popular songs.Mariah is just multivarious,not limited.

    Mariah didn’t receive the Guinness citation for her boobs,but for her UNREACHABLE voice.People doesn’t vote Mariah as the greatest voice ever for her boobs.When people listen to her incredible songs like Fly Like A Bird,Mine Again,Outside,Through The Rain,One Child,etc.they doesn’t see her boobs.You pathetic idiot,educate yourself.This is not by Mariah’s fault if Celine has her female monkey breasts.

  217. BUTTERFLY says:

    Lucky Luke,who do you think you are ? How dare you say me when to post a comment to this debate ? Do you think that you lead the discussion because you are supported by this ignorant called Divas Live ? Hahaha this is so funny.

  218. BUTTERFLY says:

    You just proved that you are much predictable than me.I already known that you couldn’t bring proofs to justify your lie.You even deny that you said so.
    You posted that from December 21 ,2011 : “But I will tell you this, and that is that Mariah has sold more singles than Celine, by about 5 million (i’m pretty sure), and Celine’s sold more albums, by about a 30 million margin. But if you think I’m wrong, prove it to me by giving me REAL sales with REAL proof.”
    Now,I show you when you said 30 million.
    Who lie ? Hahaha !
    Which REAL sales and REAL proof did you give when you claimed this ???
    This is not a grammatical debate.Don’t judge me by my bad English, you’d rather inform yourself about music question and sales before bashing me.
    Bye bye honey !

  219. BUTTERFLY says:

    PS ; my last post is addressed to What the what

  220. Dreamlover says:

    @ GUTTERFLY

    LOL. Stupid ****.

    Celine is better than you because

    A) She is more famous

    B) She is richer

    C) She is a well balanced woman (not some crazy bitch who threatens)

    D) She is more educated or…to put it better…less illiterate

    E) She doesn’t have comprehension problems

    F) She doesn’t insult people

    and most important of all…

    G) She never insulted YOU in person like you did with her.

    So you are better because you are more beautiful ? LOL. What a ”deep” and ”mature” way of thinking. Either way, show me your Facebook account (if you dare) to tell whether you are better or not. If you are better than Celine, I will admit it. Away with you.

    I don’t have to prove the fact that Celine is not supported by the Illuminati group. My comment was an answer to your diarrhea about how God loves and supports all human beings. If you knew how to read and articulate you wouldn’t ask these silly questions.

    You never invalidated links, Guinness and IFPI. You LIED that Guinness supported fake Madonna sales before 2010 and LIED that IFPI posted fake sales for Nana Mousxouri, when Guinness NEVER supported sales close to 400m for Madonna and IFPI NEVER posted fake for Nana Moushouri. Keep Lying. You will get NOWHERE with these lies cause I have a working brain and a VERY good memory. Either way I don’t need IFPI or Guinness to support my arguments so saying that you never invalidated them is irrelevant to my posts. Just a proof of what a simpleton and compulsive liar you are.

    But I don’t know what ”nasal resonance” is darling, because there is no such term in vocal pedagogy. Moreover you don’t even know what ”resonance” means, let alone ”nasal resonance”.

    Mariah is in the Illuminati. If these are ”my devilish thoughts”, then again you make devilish thoughts for Celine. I already posted 6 links proving Mariah’s involvement and dark profile just like you posted 2 links proving (according to you) Celine’s involvement. If you and your sub par IQ can throw shade to someone, I can do it as well.

    Oh ok… since this as far as your imagination can go. You think you are going to upset me by posting these ridiculous lists but you don’t how much patience I have. There you go :

    Celine has 2.8m certified sales in Oceania. Mariah 2.5.

    Celine has sold more in every Latin America market and I proved it before.
    More platinum and more gold certifications in every major market. More demand, more special awards, more Spanish songs, more singles released, more songs to chart high in the Billboard Latin chart.

    My Heart Will Go On has almost 6m certified sales. AIWFCIY has 3.5m.

    There is no certification system for places such as West Indies, Jamaica, Heite, Fiji and if there is you would look less stupid by bring these info. Again, turns out you love humiliating yourself and being concerned. May I ask you something… When you have sex do you enjoy a good spank in the ass ?

    Against All Odds hardest part is one Eb5 note (I am sure you don’t know what Eb5 is) and My Heart Will Go On hardest part are two E5 notes (I am sure you don’t know what E5 is).

    My Heart Will Go On is a hella powerful recording. Don’t forget it was a ONE TAKE thing.

    How come every Mariah song is more difficult to sing than Celine ? You think ”Touch My Body” is harder than ”I Surrender” ? Funny girl. However, (although your have 0 knowledge), Mariah’s songs in general ARE more difficult than Celine’s.

    I’m bored of your recycled comments…

    Again, put your dunce cap on and go back to your corner for the rest 2 days. You are not allowed to post here till then.

  221. Dreamlover says:

    @ what the what

    ”you’d rather inform yourself about music question and sales before bashing me.”

    Said the simpleton who couldn’t bring the certifications of ”We Belong Together” and can’t define resonance. LMFAO!

    #I JUST CAN’T AT HER LUNACY

  222. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    Can you really come up with nothing of your own?? You just HAVE to copy and paste other people’s posts????
    You think proving to me that I did say 30 mil is going to “own” me? I already told you, that I might have missed it so I’m honestly asking you. if you found it, that does nothing to me or you, since Ibalready stated that I was pretty sure I said it. Idiot.
    You know why I’m not giving you facts?? Well first of all you haven’t given any and I asked you first. Second, I know you’re going to say its illuminati based. (your stupid tactics, so don’t blame me) You do know you’ve been here longer than I have don’t you? Which means you have a LOT more to give sources and info to LONG before I do. ”you’d rather inform yourself about music question and sales before bashing me.” You might want to do the same to Dreamlover. You HAVE been insulting and giving him info that are false or have little sources a lot longer. Make sure you THINK before you post because these things you’re telling me to do just backfired onto YOU. Don’t post anything again until:
    1) admit Celine’s had a bigger succes than Mariah
    2) bring YOUR sources for the info you bring
    3) stop insulting us when you’ve done and said the dumbest things that I can insult WAY MORE about (and there’s actually a reason for insulting you)

    Or

    4) take your foot out of your mouth

    Good luck

  223. Dreamlover says:

    According to Billboard (2010) and their official sites Mariah sold 200m+ records worldwide and Celine 220m+.

    According to World Music Awards Celine is more successful than Mariah since she was awarded later and more sales were announced worldwide.

    According to Forbes Celine is richer.

    TRISH go learn which notes Mariah can sing, what is her vocal type, which is the highest belted note in her career (studio and live), what is head voice, what is chest voice, what is resonance and musicianship cause the saddest thing about you is that you don’t even know much things about Mariah. And I can explain ALL these in DETAIL. Hence I understand much more about Mariah than you. Are you feeling ashamed that I know more about Mariah’s voice and singing than you ?

    The biggest fail isn’t in your ridiculous attempts to bash Celine but mostly
    the fact that you can’t properly support Mariah. Helpless indeed. Oh and I don’t care what you think about World Music Awards, Billboard, IFPI, Nielsen Soundscan, Media, Biographies, Magazines and Labels. Fact is they support Celine. Therefore if you want to prove Mariah’s superiority please address a letter to these institutions. Do you dare to address a message to these calling them evil because they dump your fave ? Do you have the guts ?

    And by the way, don’t attack me for showing how Mariah isn’t that successful in Latin America. Her certified sales in Brazil stand at 2m, Argentina in 250k and Mexico 500k. Her official sites say so as well. So how come I lie ? How come her FAN sites lie ? All these certifications are clear and I also brought certifications AND showed which institutions certify sales there. Like I said many times before Mariah sold 4.5m in Canada (4m certified sales), 68m Us (65m certified sales), 28m Europe (18m certified sales), 3.5m Oceania (3m certified sales) and 18m in Japan (14,5m certified sales or 17,2m if you analyze her million certifications).
    Could you EVER bring these here ? No. So we are moving on to Latin America where Mariah has almost 3m certified sales so let’s say she sold a total of 6m in actual sales (can’t inflate it more). In Africa she has sold less than 7m (since she isn’t the best seller there) so let’s suppose she sold 6m in Africa. Fair enough ? Yes. And what is left for us ? Continental Asia. From the rest markets Mariah gets about 135.000.000 actual sales. Add her sales from the major continental Asian markets to see she sold almost 150.000.000 albums worldwide like her fan sites and all labels and all biographies prove. You are very delusional to contradict with all these.
    I can also show you her detailed sales from the major C.Asia markets where her certified sales stand at 10m exactly. Hence what I’ve been saying makes perfect sense. Hence, even Billboard and every announcement shows 54m singles and 150m albums and 3m dvds (even the link you brought said so) for a total of 207m records sold.

    Stop attacking us for believing what EVERYONE believes, even people in the industry such as Larry King, Oprah, Ellen, Nick Cannon, Mottola and so on. Before attacking go ask Oprah and Larry in person why they declared Celine as the best seller. If you think you know more than these people who are INSIDE the industry, then go on and properly articulate and bring the facts to prove your points. This is what an adult with a brain would do. Can you do this ?

    I am so sick and tired of your nasty, unsupported comments. I still remember you used to say Butterfly sold 18m worldwide when it certified sales from the major markets equal to 7.5m. That way Daydream must have sold 45m since its certified sales in these markets stand at 17m copies.
    See how you LIE and don’t make sense ? You even CONTRADICT to Mariah’s own discography.

    Funniest thing is that you desperately try to pass that Mariah is the best singer ever and the best seller ever, when she is none of these things (although she is close to top in both cases). Therefore, the only pressed person here is YOU. We are Celine fans and we admit Mariah was more popular in the 90s and we also admit Madonna outsells Celine and same way we admit our faves flaws.

    I know there are Celine fans who bash Mariah but Mariah is mostly hated by fans of Madonna, Whitney, Aguilera, Eminem. Therefore why do you always attack Celine fans in you tube with your multiple accounts ? Are you going to deny doing so ? Be careful ! Cause I can bring 8 links of videos (about Celine) when you bash her performances. So don’t even think of provoking me.

    By the way, I want to see Mariah’s sales in West Indies. Can you show me ? No. So why did you bother posting this ?

    As of the copy pasting tactic, it just shows you are dumb, unoriginal and pressed. I don’t mind about it. It shows I am much superior. I am glad you admire my smart posts so much that you have to copy paste them.

    Seriously, learn BASIC stuff about sales such as certifications and their level and then go learn BASIC stuff about music such as resonance, chest voice, key and so on cause you seriously look PATHETIC when you say something and then CAN’T explain it. Smart people can ELABORATE on what they say. You can’t. Sad but truth.

    As of your pathetic insults against Celine, I love how you insult a woman who accomplished more in her life than you or your entire family, a woman who is kind and polite to everyone, a woman who has huge impact on many people’s life, a woman who is old enough to be your mother. You should be in position to show some respect but who am I to teach you respect when your parents obviously failed to do so ? You might be pretty (although you never showed a pic of yourself) but you are an ugly person on the inside. Biased, unfair, rude, dismissive and so on.

    All these my love are ugly. Very ugly.

    THE END.

  224. Divas Live says:

    @ Butterflop how come..? you can Blurted out such a blunt word to Celine that shes Limited artist….While Celine always win when we talk about concert,Latest Album Sales…signing a biggest contract in music industries..
    While Mariah is Flopping….ohh i hate to repeat this……

    flop Concerts….
    Dropped by her label…
    Flop Movie…
    Flop Album Sales..
    and here you are keep bashing Celine’s success…….Poor Cow….Using Illuminati as an excuse so that her Idol will not Drown by Celine Dion’s Success..

    I Really Wonder why the Doctor let you out from the mental…?????

    By The Way About You Said about…Blow Jobs….. let me tell you this …

    Do you know?? that Mariah Carey Give Blow job to montola so that he will marry her ..Mariah do that so that she don’t need to go on tour to put some money on her Carrier.. she also give blow jobs to all the members of Boyz 11 men to boost her popularity…she even gave blow job to David Foster to work with her…She even Give Blow job to the Italian Heartrob for her lust…She also give Blow jobs to all the members of Westlife to still in affective in the music industries..Then she give Blow job to Mnm to stay relevant specialy to Mnm fans around the world…then recently she give blow job to justine bebier to stay relevant nowadays….hahahah…
    but still Shes not contented she attack Madonna so that people will talking about her Again & again….

    No wonder her contract to Las vegas @ cesar’s palace is canceled….>???/

    Now ….ask this to your Idol … & when you ask this be polite and not too loud so that she will not slap your ugly monkey face….okey????

  225. Divas Live says:

    Mariah Cowrey….. whose Next……??/

    No wonder her mouth is too big when she scream…..& not singing…

  226. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Lucky Luke
    I am better than Celine because

    – I am well balanced as I am a real woman who doesn’t manipulated by anyone

    – I am way more beautiful and gorgeous

    – I am humble

    – I will marry my cute boyfriend soon

    – I am free to take profits of my life unlike her who live to grossing money

    – I am more respectable since anyone accuse me to sell out my soul to devil for reach success,money and get famous

    – I own my bac since many years ago. I went to university,tec…I am way more educated than her.

    Don’t NEVER EVER say that Celine is better than me anymore you ignorant.Only Fame and fortune can’t make people happy. I am better than her.

  227. BUTTERFLY says:

    I never insult people,only you and other crazy fanatics.
    I never insult Celine,I admire her too much.If I meet her I would be very happy and I would ask her for an autograph .I just hate her silly fans as you. Sincerely,I love Celine.
    I would never insult her in front of her.I listen to her music almost every day.So,how could I hate her. I repeat it,I HATE YOU HER CRAZY FANS

  228. BUTTERFLY says:

    – I denounced Guinness,your links and IFPI with solid proofs. Read my previous posts about them

    -Mariah is more popular than Celine in Oceania.Do you try to deny it based on biased difference in their certification sales ? This is laughable.People from Fidji, New Zealand and Singapore knows that Mariah is their musical queen.Keep deny it idiot.

    Mariah has more sales in Latin America. More influence, more impact, more popularity , more successful singles , more songs to chart high in the Billboard Latin chart.

  229. BUTTERFLY says:

    All I Want For Christmas Is You is way more popular worldwide and sold more than My Heart Will Go On. The biased certifications sales you posted are untrue. after these certifications back to 1990’s, AIWFCIY continue to sell every year.MHWGO sales were fixed since the end of 1990’s.
    AIWFCIS sold more.

    .

  230. BUTTERFLY says:

    I didn’t talk about sales in West Indies, but about popularity.I traveled in some Caribbean countries and I listened Mariah’s music in some radios everyday ( they played Celine’s music too but Mariah more).I got many friends that work in some Caribbean countries,they tell me that Mariah’s music is very popular there and her classic are played in radios everyday ( Hero,My All, Without You, Anytime You Need A Friend, Open Arms,I’ll Be There, One Sweet day,I Want To Know What Love Is,We Belong Together,Never To Far,etc..).
    At the end of 2011, I was in a Caribbean country cause my boyfriend is a member of UN team.I listened Mariah’s O Holy night, O Come All Ye Faithful,and Auld Lang Syne were very played in many radios there.

    – Whatever you say, Against All Odds ( Mariah’s version) is way harder to sing than Celine’s My Heart Will Go On.Your vocal knowledge can nothing in it

    – Yes, I surrender is harder to sing than Touch My Body.I have to admit it

  231. BUTTERFLY says:

    As you always say that Magazines,labels,medias,supported Celine as best seller over Mariah and that even Mariah’s sites and labels said she sold about 150 million albums. Read that : I found it in Mariah Daily journal.

    “We are immensely proud to confer among Mariah Carey the Entertainer BET Honor. With an astounding 200 million career albums sold, 18 #1 Hits on the Billboard Hot 100 (more than Elvis Presley), and 5 Grammy Awards, this incomparable singer-songwriter, producer, performer, actor, philanthropist and mother of twins continues her journey as one of the most influential superstars in the world”.

  232. BUTTERFLY says:

    @What the what
    You asked to show you where you said that Celine outsold Mariah by 30 million.I did it.So,I will ignore your craps when you will able to post your proofs about it,ok?
    Don’t even try to babbling nothing else.You judged me saying Mariah outsold Celine without proofs and Certifications,now give yours if you are really better than me just prove it,I challenge you.
    I await your proofs baby.
    Kisses

  233. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ What the what: can you please tell me in what you based you to claim that Celine Dion has a more successful career than Mariah Carey
    PS: I address it to what the what,to anyone else.

  234. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Live:
    If I could only spit in your face and slap you !
    listen to me baby,you just proved that you are the worse ineducate one in that debate.
    Anyway,you should know that Mariah is a born singer/composer/producer unlike your clown.So, she doesn’t have to give blowjobs to her collaborators to have good albums and good songs I have to say you stop your stupid game with me.If you want to play the game of insults ,dissing posts and disrespectful comments with me,you’ll be the loser,believe me honey.
    Kisses

  235. Dreamlover says:

    @ BUTTERFLY

    What kind of a well balanced person insults strangers, says she wants to

    enter people’s houses, beat them and spit them ? On one comment you

    say you are well balanced and then you say you want to slap ”divas live”

    and spit on his face. This is what I define as ”pure contradiction”.

    You went to university ? A few months ago you said you were only 19 years

    old. Another contradiction. Go back and watch Celine’s interview when

    she said she wanted to be an international superstar and look at her now.

    Does your cute boyfriend have ANY clue of your shameless internet activity

    the past 2 years ? Again I didn’t only mention money and fortune. Read

    again.

    However since this the FIRST time you seem to be somehow rational (in

    the second post) how come you like a woman who sold her soul to the

    devil like you said ? Moreover why do you think I’m silly ? Silly ? No you

    might hate me but there is no way you think I’m an idiot. I’m sure you

    clearly see I know more about Mariah’s sales, voice, singing than you do.

    Moreover why do you hate me ? I am one of the FEW Celine fans IN THE

    WORLD to clearly admit Mariah’s vocal superiority. How many Celine

    fans have you meet that could explain to you with REAL terms why

    Mariah has been more skilled vocally ?

    Moving on to the third post, I have read ALL your comments before.

    You know what your argument to invalidate Guiness was ? It was that

    according to you Guiness had already mentioned 380m sales for Madonna

    a few years before the 2010 announcement. And when me and MOFF

    asked you to show us this announcement you didn’t reply anything. Do I

    remember correctly ? Do I miss anything ? Your argument against IFPI

    was that they announced 300m sales for Nana Moushouri and when I

    repeated that it was Nana’s LABEL to make this announcement you

    just avoided the topic. Do I remember correctly ? Can you correct me ? Do

    I say something wrong ?

    Celine sold more records in both Oceania and Latin America and if you

    want to invalidate my certifications, then bring your facts. Being a musical

    queen and having talent is irrelevant to sales or Madonna wouldn’t be a

    good seller. Can you name ONE singer Mariah influenced from Latin

    America ? Because I can show you an interview where Thalia (the best

    selling spanish singer ever) credits Celine as her main influence and

    actually calls her a ”miracle”’. Can you mention ONE song that charted

    higher than MHWGO or ABM in these markets ? Because I only know that

    Celine got a Special Award in 2002. Am I wrong or manipulative again ? If

    you know something more about these markets please show me.

    You mention that certifications sales are biased. Really ? Then simple logic

    says that we can’t talk anymore since you now don’t even trust

    certifications. How could ANYONE talk with you when you don’t trust

    labels, media, awards, institutions and now you don’t trust certifications ?

    My Heart Will Go On sold 11m copies worldwide, was included in LTAL

    album that sold 32m, then included in 2 parts of Soundtrack that sold

    40m, then on the album All The Way that sold 22m and My Love that sold

    2m and then again on 3 live albums that sold 3m copies (110m!) and this

    song is performed on about 1.300 shows/concerts Celine gave, it got

    Grammy awards, Academy awards, Juno Awards, is the only single to

    reach million status in the 3 major European markets, was ranked as the

    2nd most poignant Grammy perfomance ever, singers like Leona Lewis,

    Faith Hill have tried to dublicate it on studio, recived Special Latin

    Billboard Award for being the only anglophone song to top the spanish

    charts, it has been performed on talent shows way more than AIWFCIY

    and so on. Aren’t you biased to say ”way” more ? Way ? Really ?

    For your info, AIWFCIY was NOT double platinum in the 90s ! It was just

    platinum ! It got its 2nd platinum certification in Us a few years before so

    you’d rather educate yourself before saying that Mariah’s is undercertified.

    As of 2011, the certifications of both songs stand at 3.5m and 6m

    respectively. How come you can’t admit one Celine song to be more

    popular ? Anyway, I worked hard to bring all these certifications and you

    are just unfair to try to invalidate all this by posting unsupported

    theories. It is quite logical that Mariah is more popular in Asian markets

    so I won’t debate any further on this.

    Against All Odds is NOT harded to sing than MHWGO. Please tell me…

    Do you think I have a REASON to lie about this ? It isn’t even important !

    I can mention you so many Mariah songs that are harder to sing and

    I can also EXPLAIN WHY they are harder. For instance… From her debut

    Vision Of Love, There’s Gotta Be A Way, Someday, All In Your Mind,

    Prisoner ARE definitely harder to sing than MHWGO. Same goes for

    almost every song on Emotions. See ? I already admit OPENELY that

    about 15 songs from only 2 Mariah albums ARE harder than MHWGO.

    There is no motive for me to hide the truth, seriously.

    On the same site her album sales and single sales are calculated and

    lead to 200m records total. What you read is an announcement

    where people mixed the words ”albums” and ”records”. Even if you

    believe that Mariah sold more, how come you believe that she sold

    200m albums ? :/

    Finally, don’t react to what people say. You actually seem to be indirectly

    manipulated but I don’t think you understand you are being manipulated.

    For instance if a Celine fan says ”Mariah sucks” you will react saying

    ”Celine sucks, she is a clown and a robot” but if a Celine fan says ”Mariah

    is the best” you will say ”Celine is great too”. You always do that so don’t

    let what others say define your opinion or define what you say for that

    matter. I constantly see lambs bashing Celine but I never insult Mariah

    and I don’t react to this because I know I have a SOLID opinion about her

    that nothing can change it. Do the same. Keep your own.

  236. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    You know you’re the dumbest person I’ve ever met or talked to??? The fact that you think you’re more respectable, well balanced, and a “real woman” is… I don’t even know what to say to that, but I’ll try. It’s the dumbest, idiotic, out of this world lies you have EVER claimed. If you’re do respectable and well balanced, what have you been doing here insulting people for 2 YEARS?? You never insulted Celine?? Isn’t calling her old and ugly an insult? Isn’t calling her clown face an insult??? You can call her names on this discussion but you don’t have the tiniest guts to say it in front of her face. You don’t think her fans are people too? You know what, everyone here is WAY more respectable as a human being than you’ll ever be. It’s just so funny how the only way you can respond to me is by copying and pasting or asking me for my sales and facts before you can even give any. Why don’t you try it for a change. And if the only way you can respond to me is by asking my sales and insulting me, GET LOST
    Boy, do I feel SO sorry for your “cute boyfriend”.

  237. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    You know what, I’m so sick and tired of you telling me to bring my album sales, so here you go:

    Mariah’s

    Mariah Carey: 13,500,000 mil
    Emotions: 8,000,000 mil
    MTV Unplugged: 6,500,000 mil
    Music Box: 26,000,000 mil
    Merry Christmas: 12,500,000 mil
    Daydream: 20,000,000 mil
    Butterfly: 10,000,000 mil
    #1’s: 15,000,000 mil
    Rainbow: 8,500,000 mil
    Glitter: 2,500,000 mil
    Greatest Hits (Double Disc Album): 4,000,000 mil
    Charmbracelet: 3,000,000 mil
    The Remixes (Double Disc Album): 500,000
    The Emancipation of Mimi: 9,250,000 mil
    E=MC²: 2,500,000 mil
    The Ballads/Love Songs: 750,000
    Memoirs Of An Imperfect Angel: 1,250,000 mil
    Merry Christmas II You: 750,000

    Total: 144,500,000 mil albums
    mariahjournal

    Celine’s

    First French Albums: 1,300,000 mil
    Unison: 3,000,000 mil
    Dion Chante Plamomdon: 1,200,000 mil
    Celine Dion: 5,300,000 mil
    The Colour Of My Love: 16,600,000 mil
    À L’Olympia: 800,000
    D’eux: 7,700,000 mil
    Falling Into You: 32,100,000 mil
    Live À Paris: 2,300,000 mil
    Let’s Talk About Love: 30,300,000 mil
    S’il Suffisait D’aimer: 3,900,000 mil
    These Are Special Times: 12,100,000 mil
    Au Couer Du Stade: 1,200,000 mil
    All The Way … A Decade Of Song: 22,500,000 mil
    The Collectors Series Vol.1: 2,600,000 mil
    A New Day Has Come: 10,500,000 mil
    One Heart: 5,100,000 mil
    1 Fille et 4 Types: 1,400,000 mil
    A New Day … Live In Las Vegas: 1,200,000 mil
    Miracle: 2,600,000 mil
    On Ne Change Pas: 1,200,000 mil
    D’elles: 800,000
    Taking Chances: 3,400,000 mil
    My Love: Essential Collection: 2,000,000 mil
    Taking Chances World Tour: 400,000
    Other Albums: 2,600,000 mil
    Total: 174,300,000 mil
    celinedioncharts

    Now if you or any one else in this discussion think otherwise, than go right ahead and say it. But if you’re going tell me it’s like for example 10 mil lower than it should be, then that will be ignored.
    This sentence is directed to @TRISH:
    Don’t bother telling me this is illuminati based or ANYTHING, because they will be ignored until you can prove it with facts or YOUR sales.

    Why don’t you give me some of YOUR sales now to prove me otherwise.
    Bet you can’t do it

  238. Divas Live says:

    @ Butterflop/Trish

    why should i believe in you…..???

    you trying to make us believe that your a girl? your beautiful? oh common you have tail… darling…

    you are the most outrageous,outlandish,biggest idiot of all time that Ive meet…. just wrote this in your small brain that I’m only mimic the way you attack Celine Dion.. I’m just only trying hard to be like you….see…

    Mariah looks younger than Celine but just notice this darling that mariah’s performance nowadays is like an old witch…

    Mariah carey is a member of illuminati Nick Canon is Illuminati thats why she is too… dont forget that idiot ujust think before you wrote anything so that i will not kick your black ass….

  239. Divas Live says:

    What a shame Mariah give drugs to her twin to be prepare for the new world order… She even has all the signs of illuminati…. Poor mimi the issue of her big horn is apt to pervade in the whole world…..

  240. Divas Live says:

    by the way …… your getting married right??/ congrats….. hope he will not file a divorse like Tommy did to Mariah…. wow isn’t okey ? Male & Male got Married hmmmm????

  241. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ What the what : Hahaha ! your datas sales made me laugh so much ! You just confound your stupid thoughts with official albums datas sales.My 4 years old cousin could give a more reliable datas sales lists than you. LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Baby,you clearly show how much you are an ignorant in sales questions.I don’t have time anymore to spend with you.This is useless to continue discussing with you,Go and learn about Mariah’s sales,then come back in that debate.Ok ?
    Bye bye.

  242. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Lucky Luke:Celine sold less records in both Oceania and Latin America ,these certifications and awards are not trustable since they doesn’t match her popularity in these places.

    You said :”Being a musical

    queen and having talent is irrelevant to sales or Madonna wouldn’t be a

    good seller. Can you name ONE singer Mariah influenced from Latin

    America ? Because I can show you an interview where Thalia (the best

    selling spanish singer ever) credits Celine as her main influence and

    actually calls her a ”miracle”’. Can you mention ONE song that charted

    higher than MHWGO or ABM in these markets ? ”
    All these doesn’t mean that Celine is more popular than Mariah in Latin America.I could say the same about Celine in Europe,Mariah has more hits in Europe and influence more artists there,but Celine sold more and credited as more popular.So,this argument doesn’t keep.

    My Heart Will Go On doesn’t sold more than All I Want For Christmas Is You whatever the accolades and awards it received.AIWFCIY is much more popular worldwide than MHWGO,don’t even try to deny it.

    Against All Odds is harded to sing than MHWGO.Nobody can even imagine another singer hit the final notes that Mariah did in that song ( except Whitney).

    – The sales question is not clear in any site,label,media,institution,etc. All them make incorrect statements sometimes.So,nobody knows who are reliables or not among them.

  243. Dreamlover says:

    @BUTTERFLY

    What do you know about Celine’s popularity in these places such
    as Oceania and Latin America ? What do you know that invalidates
    their certifications ?

    Like I said if certifications are not to be trusted then there is no point in debating because certifications is the only source we can use (since you don’t accept announcements, awards, media info).

    You said Mariah is more influential in Latin America and that she has more hits there too (songs that charted higher than MHWGO and ABM). This is why I asked you to tell me which singers she influenced and what hits she got there. Got it now ? I didn’t create an argument. I asked you to EXPLAIN your argument. So don’t come here to tell me that hits and influence don’t show popularity when YOU used hits and influenced and awards as arguments for Mariah’s popularity. ”So,this argument doesn’t keep.” Yet YOU used this argument before…

    My Heart Will Go On has DOUBLE certifications, WAY more awards, WAY more critical acclaim, it was recycled in over 110.000.000 records that were SOLD worldwide, has been performed over 1.300 by Celine in EVERY music market. Your arguments are ?

    The fact that you like Whitney and Mariah doesn’t mean other singers couldn’t belt this part. Like I told you this is a SIMPLE MID BELT. Get over it. I have NO motive to lie about this when I already post Mariah has been the superior vocalist. Use your brain once.

    youtube.com/watch?v=lus-hodhGMw

    At 2.52 & 3.02 Celine belts higher than Mariah does in AOO. Mariah hits Eb5 and Celine E5. Why don’t you go to someone who knows to play the piano to tell you if I am wrong or right ? This will definitely help you see that I am not a liar. I can bring you TONS of songs where Mariah herself and Whitney and Lara and Celine and Aretha and Patti and Beyonce and Kelly and many more belt higher than this.

    Oh and the list ”what the what” posted is detailed from Mariah’s official sites. Both Sony Bmg and Island Def Jam confirm almost 150m albums for Mariah and 50m+ singles. EVERYWHERE you might search, you’ll see these. In EVERY OFFICIAL announcement. Before you laugh at this list, please address a comment to lambs who worked HARD to make it !
    How much have you worked for anything correlated to Mariah ? Hell
    you didn’t even bring the certified sales of 1 song !

    If you can’t deal with all these certifications and announcements don’t come back cause that’s all we have to use. If you think your travels across the world are a stronger argument to prove their popularity than these lists and links and awards and certifications, then I suggest you go to a mental hospital immediately, cause aren’t dumb enough to buy these
    childish theories.

  244. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    Do you know why I’m always laughing at your posts?? Because I always predict everything you’re going to say. My prediction is always right every single time, unless suddenly you get a brain transplant and realize how dumb you’ve been and stop posting.
    What did I tell you?? If you don’t like my sales, then give me YOURS!!!!!! Because these are DETAILED. Tell me which ones that i have are wrong. If you can’t even take the time to find even ONE correct sale for even just ONE album, just LEAVE. Ok? Because saying everything is biased is not making any progress for any of us and it’s not an argument without any facts. So give me YOUR sales. It’s 3 smart people that actually knows about music and can prove there point against 1 idiot who thinks they know everything because they’ve traveled to a lot of places and thinks labels, media, certifications, etc is all biased and illuminati based. If you gave even the most exaggerated sales and the source, at least you gave something as proof that you think my sales are wrong. If you can’t give us any, then I suggest you leave, because we’re just going in circles.

  245. BUTTERFLY says:

    – Dear sweeties,do you think that certifications and awards are established facts and above partialities? Hahahaha ! This is so laughable.Most certifications are based in statements,not in real counts,they are sometimes out of facts.
    – All I Want For Christmas Is You is more poupar worldwide and sold more than My Heart Will Go On.
    – No matter if I love or hate Mariah and Whitney,the fact is that they are both the only one vocalists in this planet that could hit the final note in Mariah’s Against All Odds,whatever how these notes are called in vocal pedagogy .

  246. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ everyone : There is the right sales
    Celine Dion

    1-La voix du bon Dieu 40 000
    2-Céline Dion chante Noël 40 000
    3-Tellement j’ai d’amour 180 000
    4-Les chemins de ma maison 90 000
    5-Du soleil au cœur 90,000
    6-Chants et contes de Noël 40 000
    7-Les Premieres annees 12 000
    8-Les oiseaux du Bonheur 90,000
    9-Mélanie 90 000
    10-Les plus grands succès de Céline Dion40,000
    11-C’est pour toi 40 000
    12-Celine Dion en concert 40,000
    13-Les chansons en or 40,000
    14-Incognito 500 000
    15-Cest Pour Vivre 10 000
    16-The Collection ( 1982-1988 )15 000
    17-The Best Of 300,000
    18- Gold ( Vol 2 ) 5000
    19-Gold ( Vol 1) 7000
    20- Unison 2
    21-Dion chante Plamondon 2,
    22-Celine Dion 3
    23-The Colour Of My Love 13
    24- The Early Singles 9000
    25-A l’Olympia 0,5
    26-D’eux The French album 7
    27-Live A Paris 0,7
    28-Falling into you 26
    29- Let’s talk about love 25
    30- These are special times 11,5
    31- S’il suffisait d’aimer 3
    32- All The Way… A decade of songs 17
    33-Au Coeur Du stade 0,4
    34-The Collector series 1,5
    35-Les Indispensables 10 000
    36- On Ne Change Pas 1,5
    37- A New Day Has Come 9
    38-Les Plus Belles Chansons D’amour 11 000
    39- One heart 3
    40- 1 fille et 4 Types 1,7
    41- A New Day…Live In Las Vegas 1,1
    42- Miracle 2,5
    43-Let’s Talk About Love/Falling Into You/A New Day Has Come 0,3
    44-Taking Chances 3
    45-Ultimate Box 8 000
    46-D’elles 1
    47-Complete Best 1,2
    48-My love: Essential Collection 1
    49-Taking Chances World Tour : The Concert 530 000
    Global Total : 141,5 million.

    Mariah Carey Albums Sales .
    01.MARIAH CAREY ->18 m Copies
    02.EMOTIONS -> 11 m Copies
    03.MTV UNPLUGGED -> 10m Copies
    04.MUSIC BOX -> 32m Copies
    05.MERRY CHRISTMAS -> 17 m Copies
    06.DAYDREAM -> 25 m Copies
    07.BUTTERFLY 17 m Copies
    08.NUMBER 1’S -> 18 m Copies
    09.RAINBOW -> 12m Copies
    10.GLITTER -> 4 m Copies
    11.GREATEST HITS -> 5 m Copies
    12.CHARMBRACELET -> 5 m Copies
    13.REMIXES -> 1m Copies
    14.THE EMANCIPATION OF MIMI -> 12,5 m Copies
    15.E=MC2 -> 2,5m Copies
    16.MEMOIRS -> 2 m Copies
    17..BALLADS 0,8 m Copies
    18-PLAYLIST-> 0,4m copies
    19-MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU 0,8mCopies
    Total sales =194,8 million albums sold.
    If Someone find something wrong in my list,just tell me it

  247. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Nasal
    I am in better place to question your sex. You already post that Mariah make you get erection,than post comment under female nicknames ( Gloria Arroyo,Charice,Divas Live,etc..) Are you a she-male,a transsexual or a drag queen ? That’s why you are jalous about Mariah’s boobbs ??? You are so weird ! You even doesn’t able to discern the sex ( genre) of people because you not a boy neither a girl.Ooooooooooops !

    you trying to make us believe that your a girl? your beautiful? oh common you have tail… darling…

    you are the most outrageous,outlandish,biggest idiot of all time that Ive meet…. just wrote this in your small brain that I’m only mimic the way you attack Celine Dion.. I’m just only trying hard to be like you….see…

    Mariah looks younger than Celine but just notice this darling that mariah’s performance nowadays is like an old witch…

    Mariah carey is a member of illuminati Nick Canon is Illuminati thats why she is too… dont forget that idiot ujust think before you wrote anything so that i will not kick your black ass….

  248. BUTTERFLY says:

    you trying to make us believe that your a girl? your beautiful? oh common you have tail… darling…

    you are the worst ignorant,ineducated,silly and pathetic fanatic of all time that I’ve never met….

    Mariah looks younger than Celine but just notice this darling that mariah’s performance nowadays is still unreachable.
    – My black ass ? Oh do you think that my ass is black ? That’s why you cite irrelevant awards and partial arguments to show that Celine is great because her ass is white although she’s completely nil and limited?

    If Mariah was illuminati she would stay under Sony’s influence like the puppet called Celine did.

  249. BUTTERFLY says:

    What a shame,Celine can’t even kiss her twins since she doesn’t have lips.
    …..
    by the way …… This is Mariah who left and divorced Tommy Mottola,not the opposite.I am female and I will marry a male.Pervert, ashamed transsexual go to the hell and burn with your depravated mind !

  250. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Live : You would like that Mariah take drug and give drugs to her twins? Why she would do that ? Even if she will doesn’t sold even 1 album in the future days,she will be happy enough to live without the need to drug herself and her kids.She has a real and healthy husband who loves her and that she loves.Two children and enough money to live the rest of her life in peace.

  251. Dreamlover says:

    I will only state SOME of the humiliating mistakes you made.

    A L’Olympia is 1xP in Europe which means 1m+ sales and you give 0,7.

    FAIL.

    D’eux is 8xPlatinum in Europe and 7xPlatinum in Canada which means its certified sales stand at 8.700.000. And you say it sold 7.000.000 ? FAIL.

    Live A Paris is 2xP in Europe so it gets 2m sales from this and you say it sold 0.7 ? FAIL.

    Falling Into You sold 31m copies worldwide. FAIL.

    Let’s Talk About Love sold 32.5m copies worldwide FAIL.

    Taking Chances has DOUBLE certifications worldwide than Glitter and Charmbracelet so if an album sold 5m, then this should be Taking Chances.

    Butterfly’s certified sales in major markets stand at 7.5m and you give a total of 17m. FAIL.

    A New Day Has Come has certified sales of 7m as well and you give 9m to it ? FAIL.

    The Colour Of My Love’s certified sales stand at 13m which means that by the standards of Butterfly is must have sold 24m. And you give 13m ? FAIL.

    One Heart 3m ? 2xP in Us, 1xP in Europe and 3xP in Canada and it already gets 3.3m certified sales. FAIL.

    What a shame for you. I don’t go on with this pathetic attempt. All I have to say is that you should feel embarrassed. Every Mariah album is inflated except for the Remixies and Merry Christmas To You. Based on your standards I should say that Mariah’s ”Memoirs” sold 100k worldwide
    since its certified sales stand at 600k worldwide. I can easily delete 500k just like you did with several Celine’s albums.

    Bravo TRISH. This list will stay in history as the biggest failure ever.

    You deserve a Guinness Record for this.

    NOBODY CAN DROP LOWER.

  252. Divas Live says:

    oh really??? hahahahaha…its soo nice to make you mad…..hahahahaha….
    nop darling i used the name glorya but dave & charice no no its just your imagination…. I attack Mariah’s Boobs baceause you keep saying Celine is ugly…your jelous o f Celines Facial expression.. hahahaha…

    Yes Darling Mariah & Nick enject some drugs to their twins for the new world order they are under investigate now……
    Nick Cannon is th e new President of nickelodean cartoon network that has a sign o f pyramid & 1 eye ….. oooopsss

    yes Darling Im A Girl i can give you my facebook account & my tel.# t o prove im a girl…. how about you../??? hahaha.. a beautiful girl…….

    Speaking of awards i was tired to give you that because … you wont believe it anyway because of Illuminati excuses…. that you’ve do to attack Celine.

    But the way i attack Mariah is a member of illuminati is true ,,,,,,

    Mariah is a huge flop artist ..there’s no way to put an honor to an artist the most successful artist o f all time i f you have fLOPS…..

    Mariah can sing anything no question about it ,,,,, but why Shes a huge flop in concet nowadays….
    Shes spend a lot tons of money for her booring movies but no body went to watch her movie ouch…… just live with it…. okey ??? she really need to rest…… its so sad Mariah has all the guts …. but only Celine Dion’s Nasal voice as what you’ve said can excel her in evrything …….just take it or live with it….Okey…. Just Insult Celine & I’ll Insult Mariah too….okey….????

  253. Divas Live says:

    As what I’ve Said

  254. Divas Live says:

    As what I’ve Said IM TRYING HARD TO BE LIKE YOU …

    THE MOST IDIOT,UNEDUCATED,OUTRAGEOUS,STUPENDOUS FANATIC MONKEY THAT I’VE KNOWN OF ALL TIME….

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..

    JUST KEEP ATTACK CELINE ….& ILL DO THE SAME….

  255. Dreamlover says:

    Something I wanted to get out of my system…

    Let’s Talk About Love : Diamond in Us (10m+), Diamond in Canada (1m+)
    10xPlatinum in Europe (10m+), 500k in Oceania and Million certification in Japan (1m) and Brazil (1m). 23.5m certified sales without analyzing its Diamond and Million certifications in Canada and Japan and you give a total of 25m actual sales. FAIL. You add 1.5m to Celine’s best seller and then add 10m copies to an average seller like Butterfly. EPIC FAIL.

    These albums have a ridiculous difference of 17m+ in certified sales
    and you post a difference of 8m copies in actual sales. How pathetic. FAIL.

    Biggest embarassment is this :

    Butterfly’s certified sales 7.5m in major markets.
    Mariah Carey’s certified sales 12m in major markets.

    How could these two albums have a difference of 1m copies ?

    UTTER FAIL.

    You even FAIL when we see your Mariah’s albums estimations ! You can’t even give justice to Mariah’s albums !

    YOU.ARE.HELPLESS.AND.DONE.

    FAIL.FAIL.FAIL.FAIL.FAIL.

  256. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    Where exactly did you get your sales? I want a source. You may not have liked what I gave, but I did give sources for each. But you know what? I’m kind of happy you gave something, even if it is wrong. And frankly, I don’t know what you’re going to insult me about, since this post wont have any of that. Prove me wrong.
    You know, These are special times sold like about not even 50,000 more than merry Christmas. So if your estimations are correct for mariah’s, then that would mean these are special times sold 17.05. And acutually, I think my sales are wrong. Because everywhere I go, Celine’s album has sold more, so either celines would go up or Mariah’s would go down. So it’s either 12 mil or 17 mil. Either way, Celine’s Christmas album sold more.
    Both Falling into you and let’s talk about love have sold more than 30 mil.
    That’s all I’m going to say. If there’s one mistake, you’ll find hundreds of them.

  257. Divas Live says:

    @ mONARCH BUTTERFLY

    Mariah Carey is a Pupet of Illuminati Google this bitch……

    whale.to/b/butterfly_s.html

  258. BUTTERFLY says:

    There is the irrefutable and the most objective list of Celine Dion and Mariah Carey’s albums sales worldwide.

    1-La voix du bon Dieu 40 000
    2-Céline Dion chante Noël 40 000
    3-Tellement j’ai d’amour 180 000
    4-Les chemins de ma maison 90 000
    5-Du soleil au cœur 90,000
    6-Chants et contes de Noël 40 000
    7-Les Premieres annees 12 000
    8-Les oiseaux du Bonheur 90,000
    9-Mélanie 90 000
    10-Les plus grands succès de Céline Dion40,000
    11-C’est pour toi 40 000
    12-Celine Dion en concert 40,000
    13-Les chansons en or 40,000
    14-Incognito 500 000
    15-Cest Pour Vivre 10 000
    16-The Collection ( 1982-1988 )15 000
    17-The Best Of 300,000
    18- Gold ( Vol 2 ) 5000
    19-Gold ( Vol 1) 7000
    20- Unison 2
    21-Dion chante Plamondon 2,
    22-Celine Dion 3
    23-The Colour Of My Love 13
    24- The Early Singles 9000
    25-A l’Olympia 0,5
    26-D’eux The French album 7
    27-Live A Paris 0,7
    28-Falling into you 26
    29- Let’s talk about love 25
    30- These are special times 11,5
    31- S’il suffisait d’aimer 3
    32- All The Way… A decade of songs 17
    33-Au Coeur Du stade 0,4
    34-The Collector series 1,5
    35-Les Indispensables 10 000
    36- On Ne Change Pas 1,5
    37- A New Day Has Come 9
    38-Les Plus Belles Chansons D’amour 11 000
    39- One heart 3
    40- 1 fille et 4 Types 1,7
    41- A New Day…Live In Las Vegas 1,1
    42- Miracle 2,5
    43-Let’s Talk About Love/Falling Into You/A New Day Has Come 0,3
    44-Taking Chances 3
    45-Ultimate Box 8 000
    46-D’elles 1
    47-Complete Best 1,2
    48-My love: Essential Collection 1
    49-Taking Chances World Tour : The Concert 530 000
    Global Total : 141,5 million.

    Mariah Carey Albums Sales .
    01.MARIAH CAREY ->18 m Copies
    02.EMOTIONS -> 11 m Copies
    03.MTV UNPLUGGED -> 10m Copies
    04.MUSIC BOX -> 32m Copies
    05.MERRY CHRISTMAS -> 17 m Copies
    06.DAYDREAM -> 25 m Copies
    07.BUTTERFLY 17 m Copies
    08.NUMBER 1’S -> 18 m Copies
    09.RAINBOW -> 12m Copies
    10.GLITTER -> 4 m Copies
    11.GREATEST HITS -> 5 m Copies
    12.CHARMBRACELET -> 5 m Copies
    13.REMIXES -> 1m Copies
    14.THE EMANCIPATION OF MIMI -> 12,5 m Copies
    15.E=MC2 -> 2,5m Copies
    16.MEMOIRS -> 2 m Copies
    17..BALLADS 0,8 m Copies
    18-PLAYLIST-> 0,4m copies
    19-MERRY CHRISTMAS II YOU 0,8mCopies
    Total sales =194,8 million albums sold.

    Like it or hate it,Mariah global albums sales outsold Celine’s as this irrefutable list show it.But I have to say that Celine is a great record seller too since she sold more than 100 million albums worldwide -)

  259. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas nasal
    If you think that you could make me mad,you make a big mistake,bigger than Celine’s nose…Lol
    By the way,Celine’s huge nose prevent her to kiss her twins,although she already doesn’t have lips to kiss.That’s why she can’t smile,only make pull faces and jokes.So,do you really think that I could be jealous for her pull and faces ?Hahaha ! …LMAO !!!!!!!!!!! You are the weirdo thing that I’ve never seen and this planet.
    About drugs and Illuminati,Celine and Rene are so much under the Illuminati influence and Satan that they become more and more wrinkled through the days and look so old although so much money and privilege.
    I have to remind you that Rene Angelil needs to take drugs,not just to feel good and high,but before all, to stay alive…Oops!

  260. BUTTERFLY says:

    Oh ! You are a girl ??????????????? Since when ??? Anyway,I send you my congratulations my dear ! So,you prefer to be a girl rather than stayed a boy ? Oops…I have to say nothing in this because it’s your personal life’s choice…I am not here to judge people life or talk about their personal life.I debate about Celine Dion and Mariah Carey,sorry. Good luck for you to being a girl.
    Love and kisses !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  261. Dreamlover says:

    Too much pressure and insecurity for Mariah’s vocal and career decline…

    Sad…

    Gave Over.

  262. BUTTERFLY says:

    Honey,Mariah is the greatest female artist of all times ! She has no rival in musical accomplishments,innovations,left marks in music history,influences,voice,skills,success,legacy,etc…
    Mimi has the whole package of an incomparable diva.Like it or hate it,but Mariah Carey is beyond Celine Dion in success and accomplishments…………………………………………………………………………xxxxxxxxxxx

  263. BUTTERFLY says:

    About movies,Celine claim herself that she dreams to make movies.But producers and realisators doesn’t inrested to make film with her,cause too much ugly and old looked…LMAO !!!!!But I admit that she has an incredible comedian and clown talent, Maybe someday,she will be the next Mister Bean or rather Miss Chin …Hahahha ! Lol !

  264. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas nasal :
    “JUST KEEP ATTACK CELINE ….& ILL DO THE SAME….” Hahahaha! Do you challenge me ? LMAO!!!!! You just don’t know who is called Trish.You’ll be the one to give up,believe me baby.I already said you to stop your stupid game.You wanted it you got it !
    See you later.
    Hugs and kisses !!!!!!!!!!!

  265. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Lucky Luke & What the what :
    If you want to know about sales,just consult my list.This is the most objective and reliable list about Celine and Mariah’s sales.My favorite vocalists !

  266. Dreamlover says:

    Mariah isn’t any of these things. Too much pressure and insecurity about Mariah’s vocal and career decline. You are boring. Time to talk about your homosexual feelings about Mariah with your friends.

    Your list ? Well, D’eux is 8xPlatinum in Europe and 7xPlatinum Canada
    and you give it 7m sales. Is this a good start ?

    I know it kills you that Celine’s facials expressions worth way more money
    and rise way more attention than Mariah’s singing/lipping/voice. Hence Celine sells out 40.000 people arenas and Mariah can’t fill 3.000 arenas in America. This speaks volumes of how ”big” and ”unreachable” her … capabilities are. We are talking about 30.000 thousand people to prefer Celine over Mariah on each concert. Get over it. On top of these I know it’s bad for you that Mariah is dumped by awards, is never asked to perform, belongs to a fu**ing SMALL label and her contracts are even significant compared to Celine’s.

    Like I have told you… Failure is a life standard for you. Go learn English,
    go to a mental hospital so someone can explain your psychotic behaviour, then go learn about music and open your eyes to the real facts. You have been wasting time of your existence here, posting lies and being owned.
    By the way your list is already invalidated by my previous posts. As long as your sales are BELOW the certified sales you #Fail…miserably.

    Again… GAME OVER.

  267. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Lucky Luke :
    Mariah is the undeniable greatest female artist of all times ! Hate it or like it !
    “Time to talk about your homosexual feelings about Mariah with your friends” You surely confound me with your weirdo allie Divas Live who said that he /she has erection everytime he/she see Mariah.
    I have to say you that I never had lesbian feelings unlike your mother who cheated your father with several women then gave birth to a weird son that have Celine Dion as model to emulate instead of male artists as Elvis,Sinatra,etc…What a shame !If you were a straight man,you would be in the Michael vs Elvis debate,not in the female ones.

    Its time for you to talk about your transsexual needs to your friends,to become like Celine Dion and look like her.

  268. Divas Live says:

    @ Butterflop

    Hahaha….that’s the reason why i dare you i will gave you my account # my number if you gave us yours so that we know whose a real woman …

    Like Shania twain Song Your a man feel like a woman….hahaha

    by the way your Mariah cant even hug her children because her butt is in her front,,,,hahaha even nick cannon will drown because of her silicon….boobs

    Mariah is a huge flop Illuminati puppet shes a member of a Monarch who control the minds of people…. concealed the real meaning of evil through butterfly ……

    I really feel your mad like an angry bird….. you cant accept by yourself that your in between……..

    You cant accept that your Mariah Carey is sleeping every night at home…while Celine is still stay relevant in music industries..

    You cant accept that even Mariah has all the guts & talents but most people don’t like her… that why she’s flopping

    You cant accept that Mariah is a member of Illuminati too….. Sha has all the sign of it darling…

    & i dont believe that your a she for sure your he sweete….

  269. Divas Live says:

    @ Butterflop

    And Plssssss don’t be a biggest Liar of all time I know Butterflop & Trish Trash are only 1 idiot….. so stop Playing tons of lies……

    I can give you the links that prove that Mimi is Illuminati

    Monarch Butterfly that she use……in Illuminati they use symbol such as butterfly,lion,dragon,Tiger ,& snake as symbol of their members Girls usually use Butterflys…..sweety bird…….///////…

    & i dont believe that your a she for sure your he sweete….

  270. Divas Live says:

    Who is Trish Anyway,,,,>>???? the Most biggest Idiot OF ALL TIME

    tRISH IS tHE qUEN oF lIES

    tRISH IS tHE qUEN OF cOPY PASTE

    tRISH IS THE OF IDIOT

    tRISH IS THE qUEEN bITCH..

    tRISH IS A sLAVE OF iLLUMINATI A STANS OF iLLUMINATI mARIAH……

    OKEY I KNOW YOU GONNA COPY PASTE MY POST NOW OKEY….GO BITCH…

  271. Divas Live says:

    “JUST KEEP ATTACK CELINE ….& ILL DO THE SAME….” Hahahaha! Do you challenge me ? LMAO!!!!! You just don’t know who is called Trish.You’ll be the one to give up,believe me baby.I already said you to stop your stupid game.You wanted it you got it !
    See you later.
    Hugs and kisses !!!!!!!!!!!

    OH I’M REALLY aFRAID iLLUMINATI TRISHH WILL KILL ME……
    sHE WILL YOUSE HER SH** TO KILL ME SOMEBODY…..HELPP………..

  272. Divas Live says:

    HAHAHAHAHA……HUG & KISSES SWEETEE…

  273. Dreamlover says:

    There is nothing to hate or like because that’s just an opinion that comes from an uneducated simple minded moron. You can’t even tell (and explain with real music terminology) what makes Mariah a good vocalist so your arguments on artistry have 0 substance. And don’t start decorating your delusional phrases with adjectives ”beautiful, unreachable, agile” and crap like that because you invalidate your own statements since you don’t even know the structures, intervals, notes and arrangements of her songs and perfomances.

    Take your homosexual feelings somewhere else, here nobody gives a sh**.
    I think I really made you mad since you had to resort to cheap comments and pointless insults. Too bad several men take their families to Celine’s concerts and many straight guys in the indutry like her music and praise her skills. I find it so funny that you mock people for being homosexual (you actually describe it as a bad thing) when a good portion of Mariah’s fan base is homosexuals. LMFAO! Go to you tube to see how many homosexuals praise songs such as Looking in and Outside for their lyrical content. A gay couple decided to get married at a MC concert therefore you are once again dumped.

    Celine is more popular than your fave and I am glad you can’t deal with it (when lambs already admit it). I know you will probably copy paste my comments (cause this is your only argument in order to make a point and turn what I say around) but either way I have to say what I think. Do you know how the rest of your life will be ? You’re gonna see COMMENTS AND COMMENTS AND COMMENTS of people all OVER the internet saying how Celine outsells Mariah, you’re going to see people on media and magazines puting Celine above her and you’ll be able to say NOTHING. You will just STAY pressed in internet blogs posting your crap to people who don’t care about your existence. It is obvious you don’t have a voice in real life. Even if I leave this debate, do you think you will be free ? Hell no ! You will be back here to check if someone posted that Celine sold more because you die to have the last word (The ”last word” is always evident in people with insecurities who think that they ”win” something by having the ”final word”). The irony is that most times having the last word means that your debater doesn’t give a fu** about what you have to say. Like I said, you will leave under this pressure. You are a prisoner of your denial and delusion. There is no escape for you. You are doomed and I wish – I really do wish – that you stay that way till the day you die. I wish you keep believing that Mariah is the best selling female artist ever, cause so many Madonna, Celine fans (and even more), and lambs will make you go mad and will always stand in your way either here or you tube (where your multiple accounts are again evident of your insecurities since you need at least 2 accounts to thumb up your comments and feel that your crap have some significane).

    You have serious mental issues, you are insecure and one of the most illiterate pests ever. You are everything but a well balanced person. Just an uneducated nobody who only knows how to insult and threaten strangers. I repeat you are doomed and even if you marry and have kids, you’ll still be mad and pressed at these comments and too bad your own comments and delusional statements can’t change our minds. By the way, LEARN that I am one of the few Celine fans you will ever meet in your pathetic life that doesn’t have a problem if Mariah outsells Celine because in facts sales mean nothing and because in fact I love Mariah! If you couldn’t change my mind, then there is no way you will ever change anyone’s mind, because many Celine fans happen to be quite delusional and unfair. Either way, I failed to change your mind on sales and you failed to change the mind of at least 4 people. I’m just glad that THOUSANDS of lambs who are really smart and have worked HARD put all these statements of yours into total shame (and don’t even say that there are Celine fans to think Mariah sold more because if you say I am going to ask you to show me one Celine fan that believes so and then you will again be cornered and avoid the question). Mariah’s official sites are made by lambs and same goes for her Wikipedia page and the sales that are known stand way below your own so called facts, so again I am very satisfied that even lambs are on your way. And for the third time (since your awful comprehension issues don’t help you) : You are doomed and of course unable to admit that you are doomed and cornered because this is part of your denial. I wish you stay that way. One my biggest pleasures will be to see you here the upcoming years. Please, do me a favour and give me that pleasure.

    Bottom Line : Mariah Carey would be ashamed to read your cheap comments mocking the woman who gave her advice about her pregnancy, or read your comments mocking homosexuals (when she knows she is supported by them) or reading the comments that prove how you know nothing about her voice. Same way she would feel embarrassed to be supported by a mean, spiteful attention whore like you are. You shouldn’t call yourself a lamb. You are a huge embarrassment. A big disgrace.

    Now go on and do the only thing you are capable of doing : 1) Avoid my statements 2) Copy paste my arguments 3) Insult. 4) Stay mad and cornered.

    You are a pathetic excuse for a human being.

  274. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    “@ Lucky Luke & What the what :
    If you want to know about sales,just consult my list.This is the most objective and reliable list about Celine and Mariah’s sales.My favorite vocalists !”
    Then don’t tell us “If Someone find something wrong in my list, just tell me it” Do you really expect others to NOT tell you EVERYTHING wrong with sales anyone gives, unless the others support the poster? I mean that’s what you do. There are a few of the list of lies that you posted that I want to address, even though I’m pretty sure someone already did.

    Celine is more popular in South Africa, considering how she’s the best selling female artist with 3 million sold. Picture to prove it:
    celinedioncharts.com/images/awards/celinedion_tour_africadosul_conferenciadeimprensa_14.jpg

    In Australia, Mariah’s sold almost 4 million, while Celine’s sold more than 4 million.

    I actually do think Mariah’s richer than Celine, even though it’s not a reliable source. But it was the only updated one. richestcelebrities.org 500 mil to 400 mil
    If you base it on 2007 Forbes, Celine wins. Though I’m not sure why Mariah would be richer, since she has like the or at least one of the biggest contracts. Mariah? Maybe a CD and just had twins a few months ago.

    The fact that you think Celine doesn’t deserve her awards just shows how biased and ignorant you are. You or anyone else are in no position to even be able to speak like that. That’s just truly disrespectful. But what do you know about that, since you claim to be respectable and humble, even though you call her horse face, clown face, old and ugly. But it just really proves how unpopular Mariah can be. You keep saying Celine makes money by pulling faces. So you’re pretty much just saying people would rather pay tons of money to go see someone look like a clown than to pay not as much money to just listen to a beautiful voice. Think before you speak.

  275. Dreamlover says:

    The most money Mariah made the past 12 years was when Virgin Records
    decided that they didn’t want her in the label and as a result kicked her
    out of it. She made about $80m because of the broken contract. This is
    as far as her ”popularity” can go. Chances are she spent most of it
    at the hospital she stayed after her breakdown. Then again, she made
    money from TEOM but everything was balanced when her next 4
    projects proved to be unsuccessful and commercially damaging for her
    label (given the fact they shot 10 video clips about it). She also had
    a successful parfumes line that grossed about $250m, but again
    Celine’s parfumes grossed over $850m till 2010. Moreover Celine
    made $680m from touring and her album sales (not single sales)
    brought a total of $250m according to Forbes and LA Times magazine.
    Hence she was the highest earner for the whole 00s decade. As of
    2011 Mariah didn’t made profits while Celine grossed over $40m
    of her Celine show. The industry cares about people who can make money and BRING money. This is why Mariah is left at Island Def Jam (with a small contract) while Celine stays at Sony Bmg and is treated like the #1 money machine. If you think that any person who give much money for the budget of Mariah’s albums you are very misled. Same way nobody would ever built a Colusseum for Mariah because she could never bring the money back. Mariah had hard times in 2010 to fill a 2.500 arenas in Las Vegas so yes nobody would made a serious contact. Has anyone of you wondered why a couple of Mariah video clips were made/produced by her and her husband ? It is because the label wouldn’t put money on them.

    Remember my words : The next Mariah album will sell less than 2m
    worldwide and will be the reason her label will stop promoting her for
    good. Never forget that ! Moreover the fact that her latest album
    was given a limited worldwide release is a good evidence of what I said.
    Even in Us (Mariah’s strong market) all Celine albums have gone at least
    platinum with her best seller being 11xP. Mariah has already had 2 gold
    certifications while her being stands at 10xP. Celine = Stability. Just wait for her 2012 releases. Her albums with score no hits, but she will still sell about 3m+ and she will still gross more than $40m from touring.

    I don’t have anything more to say. Time and facts will prove me right. Just
    open your eyes to see how the record companies treat these ladies. Oh
    and all these are irrelevant to being a ”robot” or an ”artist” so I don’t
    want to listen to that crap. The reason a company supports artists
    is because they bring money, not because they obey. Being a robot
    doesn’t mean, you will bring money. Don’t confound these things to make
    a point.

    Oh and based on certifications alone Celine sells at least 177m albums.

    1.Unison 3m

    02.Dion Chante Plamondon : 1.5m

    03.Celine Dion : 5m

    04.The Colour Of My Love : 16.5m

    05.A L’Olympia : 1.5m

    06.D’Eux : 10m

    07.Falling Into You : 31m

    08.Live A Paris : 2.5m

    09.Let’s Talk About Love : 32.5m

    10.S’il Suffisait D’Aimer : 4m

    11.These Are Special Times : 12.5m

    12.Au Coeur Du Stade : 1.5m

    13.All The Way : 22.5m

    14.The Collectors Series Volume 1 : 2.5m

    15.A New Day Has Come : 11m

    16.One Heart : 5.5m

    17.1 Fille & 4 Types : 1.5m

    18.A New Day : 1.5m

    19.Miracle 2.5m

    20.On Ne Change Pas : 1.5m

    21.D’elles : 1m

    22.Taking Chances : 3.5m

    23.My Love : 2.5m

    I don’t care if the insect thinks Mariah sold 195m albums or even more
    than that. All I have to say is that I have to give justice to Celine. None
    of these album sales are inflated, I have already brought certifications
    for each one of them and I can do again and again.

    BYE !

  276. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Nasal : Do you want to see my pictures in Facebook to get erection like you did about Mariah ? Hahahaha! This is so funny ! Sorry honey,I will don’t give you this favor my dear…-)
    By the way,do you think that your Facebook account is enough to prove that you are a girl ? It would be so easy to be a girl…LMAO !

    Celine’s natural nose and chin prevent her to kiss and hug her kids without hurted them.Even her husband Rene can’t kiss and hug her because of her bony face and body without hurted.
    At least Mariah is able to breastfeeds her twins unlike your joke that doesn’t have breasts.Without industrial milks and babies foods,her kids would die by hunger :-)))))

  277. BUTTERFLY says:

    About Illuminati,it is so easy to find arguments.just write Celine illuminati on google image,then you’ll see her pictures on satanic symbols.I even don’t talk about links and lyrics of her songs.
    By the way,Celine claimed herself in a french interview,that she sings for the glory of Satan….Oooooooooooooops !

    Yes,I accept that Mariah Carey is sleeping every night at home after working hard in studios on her next album songs.But,that helping her to stay healthy vocally and physically (even though she has some little problems with her weight)…while Celine is still stay relevant in Las Vegas everynight by clowning,singing,lipping,joking,entertaining,etc. for grossing money.While other artists work hard about songs for her next album.But her voice become more and more nasal and dry because of oversinging nasal screams.Her body more and more wrinkled because too much tired by acrobatic pull faces and so much night by standing in concerts…………….xxxxxxxxxx

  278. BUTTERFLY says:

    Don’t worry sweety,I am not illuminati.The proof ? I fight with supporters of this satanic sect like you and other Celinilluminati whorshipers…LMAO

  279. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Lucky Luke :
    – You said that I have homosexual feelings for Mariah and also that I actually describe it as a bad thing.See your contradiction ?
    – This is your allie Celiniac Divas Live who describe homosexuality as a bad thing,not me.Open your eyes baby. “Male & Male got Married hmmmm????” I just gave reply to your protected allie honey.

    -Good for Celine if people continue to go in her concerts,that can grossed more money,but that doesn’t make them as good as Mariah’s.

    – Yes,Mariah’s fan base got people in earth planet,whatever their skin complexion,their religion or their sexual orientation ( Heterosexual,homosexual,transsexual,bisexual,etc.) She has musical genre and lyrics themes for everyone,that’s why everyone loves her music.

    – There are songs and vocal performances themselves that make of someone a great vocalist and singer,not the vocal terminology and pedagogy.There are just a scientific way to measure and call some notes,but only human got the capacity to judge about art and singing ability,a machine could easily be mistaken.
    -You think that you could validate your lies by defame me.You just show how much you are hopeless each time you talk about your pathetic thoughts that I own many YouTube accounts to bash Celine’s videos.The one who needs to consult a psychologist is you.

  280. BUTTERFLY says:

    Celine doesn’t have even the half of Mariah’s worldwide popularity.Even if Celine’s albums would sold more,she wouldn’t have Mimi’s popularity.Popularity doesn’t mean just sales but also impact,influence,etc.
    In China alone( China got more people than 3 times whole Europe ) Mariah owns 77 % of popularity while Celine share the 22 % rest with Whitney Houston.So Mariah has much more people who loves her music in the earth planet,no contest.

    – We already deal with the certifications question .Celine’s markets surpass Mariah’s by 14 million sales when Mariah’s second best market (Asia ) is out of the count and not considered.So,how could you talk about certifications again ? You talk with yourself honey.
    – Yes,Celine may be richer than Mariah thanks to her concerts and perfumes.So what ?
    – I don’t care if Mariah’s next album will be a flop while Celine’s will be a worldwide success.The most important for her fans is that she will release an album with good songs that reflect her feelings and what she was inspired to,as a real artist.

  281. BUTTERFLY says:

    Yes,Celine’s English career rested since 2007.So,this is easy to expect that her next album sold more than Mariah’s.Moreover,as the number 1 ” money machine” ( as you admit yourself) She will benefit from huge worldwide promotions by Sony that Mariah will don’t have.
    Yes,being a robot could mean that you’ll bring money.If Mariah had follow the same way that Celine did ( make only Pop/Ballad albums giving worldwide tours in concerts ) by following Mottola’s and Sony team like Celine did,she would the stay the number one artist in that label till now and grossed huge amount of money easily.
    But,Mariah cares most about what her music will left as legacy and influence instead of what she will grossed as fortune.

  282. Dreamlover says:

    Saying that you have homosexual feelings about Mariah isn’t a bad thing LOL. I didn’t try to pass it as a bad thing, too bad you went mad.

    Who can judge a vocal performance without knowing which notes a singer sings in each song ? What makes a performance complicated or not if it isn’t the notes, structure and intervals ? A beautiful voice ? Don’t make me laugh.

    ”There are just a scientific way”. This comes from a person who thinks
    magazine lists are more reliable ? So we should forget what vocal pedagogy
    says and rely on Cove, Rolling stones lists which are among the biggest jokes ever. Girl please ! What you fail to understand is that by studying music is THE ONLY WAY to FULLY comprehend what makes Mariah (and everyone else) a good singer.

    Are you implying that I lied that you have 2 you tube accounts and that you
    are constantly under videos correlated to Celine ? I have seen you on videos comparing her with Mariah, on her O Holy Night video, on a video about her high notes (where you said these notes weren’t high but long) and I’ve seen you on several Madonna videos calling her ugly. Do you remember when you asked me to leave you alone and stop being in your way ?

    Your #1 Account :

    youtube.com/user/patipatou79

    Your #2 Account :

    youtube.com/user/daviddaviddaviddaful

    Here are links of videos where the you have posted comments :

    1) youtube.com/watch?v=SHZnZGUHigU

    2) youtube.com/watch?v=M64Hw-EcPF8

    3) youtube.com/watch?v=8O1siM3Nm-k

    4) youtube.com/watch?v=DZFfeax38b8

    5) youtube.com/watch?v=JupyvN64g-o

    6) youtube.com/watch?v=U13SBJCltdM

    7) youtube.com/watch?v=r0zxImnPGtE&feature=related

    8) youtube.com/watch?v=q8-DGZEjQqk

    Under the video ”Mariah Vs Celine : Latest Videos” (A comparison between Taking Chances and Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel) you CLEARLY admitted being TRISH from the popdirt debate and we had a fight about sales and then the uploader of the video (who is a big lamb) posted a comment to both of us to stop fighting saying to YOU that CELINE HAS SOLD MORE RECORDS AND THAT IT IS NOT THAT IMPORTANT.

    Do you dare to say that I lie patipatou79 ?

    Are you saying that I try to defame you david…daful ?

    It is not my problem if you decided to make at least 2 you tube accounts and bash Madonna and Celine. Consult a doctor please because you have serious issues. Trolling indicates a sad existence.

    Before calling me a liar, remember that you have admitting owning these embarrassing you tube accounts on the popdirt debate ”Madonna Vs Mariah” as well.

    Here is the link : popdirt.com/top-selling-female-artist-madonna-or-mariah-carey-part-4/85717/

    Here is what you said :

    ”TRISH says:
    September 9, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    ”@Lucky Luke,who the fu** do you think you are ? Are you the administrator of YouTube ? What do you found as funny on my YouTube comments ?Why do you come here to say it to Moff? Do Moff will banish me? Do you think that YouTube belongs to you ? Did I addressed any post to you ? Now,you spy on me? ”

    #NEXT —————————->

    ”So Mariah has much more people who loves her music in the earth planet,no contest.” FAIL. Where are her certifications then ? Have you counted how many people love Mariah and how many love Celine ? FAIL.
    Population means nothing ! Selling 10.000.000 records in a market that consists of 30.000.000 people (for example) doesn’t mean that 10.000.000 DIFFERENT PEOPLE bought the record. The 10.000.000 sales might come from 200.000 people after each one bought 1 copy of each album her discography and either way it doesn’t mean that rest population likes the artist. FAIL. And Mariah has LOST her popularity. There is no place where she could sellout arenas now ! How comes Mariah is loved by millions and she doesn’t fill 3.000 seat arenas ? #CONTRADICTION. More popular in what exactly ? Being in a small label ? CONTRADICTION. Have a small contract ? CONTRADICTION. Being treated as a flop ? CONTRADICTION.

    ”We already deal with the certifications question .Celine’s markets surpass Mariah’s by 14 million s” It’s 16 million and you still avoid the Latin America and South Africa topic and you also talk about BIASED certifications. Then how do you expect me to talk about certifications when you keep calling them biased ? Do you think I am stupid to bring something here that you call biased ? Moreover if certifications aren’t clear the least you can do to show that you aren’t a moron is stop insisting that Mariah is more popular.

    ”Yes,Celine may be richer than Mariah thanks to her concerts and perfumes.So what ?” WOW ! The FIRST time you seem to be rational ! Exactly TRISH. So what ? IT DOESN’T MATTER. Same way the sales question doesn’t really matter. Moreover, it is a progress since you denied it for over 1 year.

    Finally, anticipation doesn’t always result to good sales. E=MC2 was released 3 years after TEOM and regardless of the anticipation it didn’t sell that much. Moreover Whitney’s ”I Look To You” sold only 2.5m after 7 years of absence ! I hope Celine will FINALLY do some huge promotion because other than her tours she really didn’t promote her albums with singles, videos, tv shows since A New Day Has Come in 2002.

    ”If Mariah had follow the same way that Celine did ( make only Pop/Ballad albums giving worldwide tours in concerts ) by following Mottola’s ”

    If Mariah had stayed releasing ADULT CONTEMPORARY music, then she would have sold MORE albums BUT she would have LESS hits. Don’t forget that every AC song she released since 1999 has been an average seller or a flop : Can’t Take That Away, Never too Far, Through The Rain, Bringing on the Heartbreak, Fly Like A Bird, Hateu, Angels Cry, When Christmas Comes and so on. AC music is dead for charts since 2000 dear
    so Mariah’s decision to go to more urban stuff was on point.

    ”Mariah cares most about what her music will left as legacy and influence instead of what she will grossed as fortune.”

    Don’t make laugh. Then how come she released Touch My Body and Obsessed and several other songs like that ? It is because she aims at COMMERCIAL SUCCESS. Hence she always makes suggestive videos.
    Same way she dropped promo of E=MC2 to release a new album like LA REID suggested. Same way she didn’t release TEOM in time, because LA REID asked to co-write more commercial songs and THEN she co-wrote
    It’s like that and We belong together. What would TEOM be without these 2 songs ? Go watch her interviews to see how she boasts about her sales and #1 songs and platinum certifications. Can you show me ONE interview where she seems to care about legacy ?

    Something more. Celine’s voice is well rested now and she doesn’t sound
    that nasal nor bad. Listen to this :

    youtube.com/watch?v=oeadQZwE3x0

    Recorded 3 days ago. Yes I know Mariah did this song better but you care listen that Celine’s voice is angelic and clear ! I found some nasality in 3 points of this video, no more meaning that 99% of this is greatly sang.

  283. Divas Live. says:

    @ Divas Nasal : Do you want to see my pictures in Facebook to get erection like you did about Mariah ? Hahahaha! This is so funny ! Sorry honey,I will don’t give you this favor my dear…-)
    By the way,do you think that your Facebook account is enough to prove that you are a girl ? It would be so easy to be a girl…LMAO !

    THE ANSWER : is clear there’s something you still concealed toward as your no t a girl….your trying to be 1 at least…. i dare you to do that but still you refuse…. at least my conscience is clear that im a real 1. not a fake like you…

    About Erection..??? if i where a boy how could i get erection with you r retarded, wrinkled monkey face,,??? your black thick lips…your super kinky hair..your hairy chest & lega.. oops hahahaha….. and as what I’ve said you have tail….?? anyway I’m not discriminating person like you because you choose to be like that..

  284. Divas Live. says:

    About Illuminati,it is so easy to find arguments.just write Celine illuminati on google image,then you’ll see her pictures on satanic symbols.I even don’t talk about links and lyrics of her songs.
    By the way,Celine claimed herself in a french interview,that she sings for the glory of Satan….Oooooooooooooops !

    Yes Sir… we already know & aware of that you did not bring any links because you only believe in yourself by yourself only..you do such think to make believe yourself alone…..that you did not bring anything just to prove your garbage post….

    French???? you understand French..?? since when…?

    About ….French …… Interview just prove to us that you can Speak & understand French for us to believe what you’ve said so that you will not look like Big Idiot & Ignorant… . Again your doing such things that only yourself can Understand…. go back to mental okey…???

  285. Divas Live. says:

    At least Mariah is able to breastfeeds her twins unlike your joke that doesn’t have breasts.Without industrial milks and babies foods,her kids would die by hunger :-)))))

    so… Do you really think that Mariah Carey’s Breast is all about milk inside…

    no no no ugly duckling … what’s inside is silicon,chemicals,& fluids form Motolla, Mnm,From All Boy Bands \from Randy Jackson…to Justin Beiver…
    that can be poison if you use as breast feed even nick will die…. & sooner it will explode like a Tomic bomb can cause a shower of acid Rain…….from her silicon poisonous breast…
    & Shes Really Ugly…She’s like a fat cow don;t know how to sing..

  286. Divas Live. says:

    Monarch Butterflop

    About Mariah’s Legacy its over Darling when the time she use Mottola.. its long time ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    her Carrier now is very awful…. she cant even compare herself to Beyonce if we talk about Entertaining & performance on stage ,How much more to the Entertainer of the Millennium = Celine Dion….. no wonder Mariah is Flopping Flopping everywhere and its really hurt for to accept.. even if you saw it crystal clear,,,,,

    you’ve always said Mariah is more popular,bigger ,successful,unlimited etch,,,,,,but still you can’t see…..Mariah trying really hard to surpass Celine Huge Success……

    Still you Can’t see that shes trying really hard to sing her old songs ….and shes really tired now…. & all of this because of lamps like you ,,,that you keep cheering & entice her that still she can ….do that things like she did before,,,,,,

  287. Divas Live. says:

    @ Monarch Butterflop

    Again Sir Have mercy unto your Idol…….

  288. Dreamlover says:

    Anyway… This debate leads nowhere. Keep fighting guys. LOL.

    I have lots of studying to do. I’ll be back to reply to comments

    that BUTTERFLY will address to me when I find the time.

  289. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Nasal :
    Hahaha ! I laugh at your posts so much…Calm down grandma,you could have a heart attack. Lol !You are so funny. Thanks to amuse me.You are really special…..xxxxxxxxxx
    Lol How old are you ? 5 or 6 ? Why you’re still talking about sex and genre ? What is so special to being a girl ? Why I could say that I am a girl if I were a boy ? You are totally ill,ignorant and pathetic. I have pity on you.

    You are out of topic honey.I repeat it for you,I am here to debate about legends Celine Dion and Mariah Carey ,not about pathetic and obsessed transsexual.
    So,your conscience is clear to become a real girl ? Congrats ! I wish you good moments with boys and men that you will meet,bitch.

    About Erection,when you were a boy, It’s obvious that you could get erection about other guys…Oooooops !
    “retarded, wrinkled monkey face,,??? your black thick lips…your super kinky hair..your hairy chest & lega ”
    I have no problem that you describe me as black.Either Black or white,I would stay the same person.So,your petty racists words doesn’t bash me at all.You just fail.Your pale white ass can’t make you a good person.If you feel proud just because of your skin complexion.You are less than an human.You deserve to live with animals like you.Go to the zoo,cause the psychiatric center is too good for you.

    ops hahahaha….. and as what I’ve said you have tail….?? anyway I’m not discriminating person like you because you choose to be like that..

  290. BUTTERFLY says:

    You discriminate yourself by your petty and silly words.Anyway,how a transsexual could have discrimination against other people ? Do you think that a person who didn’t be proud about his own genre (sex) that he was born then change his sexual genre to another sex could have discrimination towards anyone ???? Your opinion is also weird as you.

  291. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Nasal :
    She said to me ” Yes Sir… we already know & aware of that you did not bring any links because you only believe in yourself by yourself only..you do such think to make believe yourself alone…..that you did not bring anything just to prove your garbage”.

    There are a few among the links that imply Celine as Illuminati.
    post….lepost.fr/article/2010/01/15/1888855_les-plus-grandes-stars-appartiennent-elle-a-une-societe-secrete-malefique.html

    youtube.com/watch?v=mzcxhnq_fzw

    imaniipulation.skyrock.com/29.html

    youtube.com/watch?v=CcIa2Mlwc30

    jesusklub.com/videos/celine-dion-the-illuminati-puppet/

  292. BUTTERFLY says:

    About ….French …… Interview,I have to say you that French is my native language.I am also able to express myself in Danish and Spanish languages.So,you can’t bash me about different languages mastered.

    About breasts and milk,you said that Mariah’s boobs got men’s cum inside instead of maternal milk ? Can you tell me what Celine’s breasts got inside ? Answer : Cum and slime from all old men mixed with those of younger men ( Rene Angelil, Nelson Mandela,Eddy Marnay,Tommy Mottola,Julio Iglesias, II Divos, R Kelly,Muhamad Ali,Bee Gees band,Peabo Bryson,Jean Jacques Goldman,etc….

    By the way,can you tell me if Celine’s nose and chin are solid and all about bones.
    “Shes Really Ugly…She’s like a fat cow don;t know how to sing..
    ” You are right,this is Celine who is beautiful over Mariah that’s why Mariah is ranked 8th most beautiful woman in the world in a french poll.That’s why celebrities as Joan collins, Mary J Blige, Simon Cowell,Tony Bennett,etc. talked about Mariah’s beauty
    That’s why Mariah looks so ugly in videos and photos next to Celines’s. You are crazy honey,really crazy to compare Celine Dion with Mariah Carey about beauty.Even celiniacs will laugh at you.You’re so silly !

  293. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ Divas Nasal :Your skinny camel couldn’t compete Mariah’s beauty and sexiness even if Mariah would weighs 10 tons.Take it my love.

    Your idol can rivaled in beauty with a horse or a camel.

    About Legacy,Celine used Mottola too but doesn’t happened to have a significant legacy. You said “About Mariah’s Legacy its over Darling when the time she use Mottola.. its long time ago” How could you say ” it’s over ” What do you understand by legacy ? Mariah’s music had continue to make history and legacy even after that she left Mottola.So, Mottola has nothing to do with her legacy.Ignorant,learn before to talk.

  294. BUTTERFLY says:

    Saddest ignorant,how can you even mentioned Beyonce to bash Mariah when she is a decade younger than Mariah and debuted her career a decade later than Mariah ?Beyonce is at her best as well Mariah was at her best in the 1990’s.Beyonce will never EVER reach Mariah’s level of success,accomplishments,talents,etc…Beyonce belongs to Britney, Christina’s generation.Besides,Beyonce said herself that she known that she wanted to become a singer after listening on Mariah’s Vision Of Love in 1990.So,Mariah is a Master for the 2 last generations of singers.

    Nowadays,Beyonce is also more popular than Celine Dion worldwide ,not just more than Mariah Carey.She also sold more albums than them,but that doesn’t mean she has a most successful career than celine and Mariah .Idiot,you even don’t know how to defend Celine face to Mariah.You suck baby…

    You said that Mariah try hard to surpass Celine’s success.Don’t you think that Celine try hard to surpass Mariah’s success as well ???

    Do you think that they are in competition ???
    Your efforts to banging Mariah’s voice fail.She is still nowadays,the best voice,the songbird supreme.Celine pales vocally next to geant Mariah Carey.Live with it .

  295. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    You keep asking @Divas Live to stop talking about sexuality. And yet you bash them with sexual insults. To stop it, you have to ignore it. If you don’t you’re encouraging them to continue. You think talking about Celine’s sex life is going to help? The fact that you think she’s so nice and respectful, and then say the nastiest things about her that you know are lies is just stupid.
    Dummy, those links you gave are made by random people who have nothing better to do than accuse people of illuminati. The first French website says she’s accused of it. They don’t give any proof. The second one doesn’t even mention her name. If I’m wrong, tell me.

  296. Divas Live says:

    hahahaha ha sorry Sir…. actually I’m just 13 years old I’m just here to make you mad….. because its been last year at August i was reading all the post here….and i notice Sir that You really hate Celine by calling her Ugly ,Camel,,,Celine is like this like that ,,,,While the other speak only Mariah & Celine’a success ,album sales,awards, which is a real valid to this debate . and its just happened Im Celine fans….and there was a time that you really say something bad about her personal life,,, that’s why i decided ……………………….TO BE LIKE YOU ………….I LEARNED THIS FROM YOU……… iM JUST 13 YEARS OLD …… & Im just gathering some values ,learning some ethics from any medium of my Invironment…. . I found out that there are some people really don’t give up ,,,even though they know the truth…. for me Celine Dion Wins….in Everything …………shes the best example of all children she’d never do such things that put her name on scandals…& issues .She’s the most loving & humble person that I’ve seen….. She don’t need to go on naked in front of camera to stay relevant….that’s why i love her very much………

    How about Mariah??? Sir Can she be a good example for all the children around the world..????????

    Have a nice day sir …..bye for now i & my family having a vacation ….i will be back to make you mad again…….okey…..? if you attack Celine below the belt……….love yah………

  297. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ What the what :

    adventofdeception.com/grammy-occult-night-hollywood/

    maranatha21.blogspot.com/2011/06/celine-dion-le-symbole-illuminati.html

  298. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ What the what :

    maranatha21.blogspot.com/2011/11/celine-dion-est-elle-illuminati.html

    Take a look at the picture central,you could see Celine Dion in a symbolic photo among huge and influential politicians as Bush,Obama,Lincoln,etc.. Then famous actors and successful singers ( Brad Pitt,Tom Hanks, Madonna,Princess Diana,Marilyn Monroe,etc..)

  299. BUTTERFLY says:

    @ What the what : Here is the copy of this article (english) on google translation.

    Celine Dion flirts with the doctrine of Aleister Crowley
    Remember this, the music industry is completely polluted the presence of evil, and it does not start today, it’s always been the case. Celine Dion bump for the Illuminati, so it is an instrument in the hands of Satan. Celine Dion was largely inspired by the teachings of the man most wicked of all humanity, yes, you guessed it, it is indeed Aleister Crowley. We will see in a brief analysis of his music video called “Do what thou wilt.” We must at the outset that “Do what thou wilt” is the motto of choice for Satanists. This is a currency that was popularized by Aleister Crowley, yet God says that we are not of the world and we have been created in order to serve him, to be faithful, without further ado I present an analysis of song “Do what thou wilt” (Do What thou wilt)

    This song speaks of a secret initiation / Masonic (?) Celine Dion
    First of all, the video presents three pieces of tissue from three different colors: a blue sky, blue sea and a blue night. These are three shades of color that actually represent three levels: white, gray and black. So here we are faced with a conflict between light and darkness, the primordial conflict of good against evil, the positive against the negative Satan against God. There is talk that the White gradually becomes gray and finally black. I repeat, in this clip, the light is symbolized by Celine Dion in blue, while the darkness is symbolized by Celine Dion in dark blue.

    The White

    The Grey

    The Black

    Throughout the clip, it was a Celine Dion light (the right side), a Celine Dion of Darkness (The wrong side) and an ordinary Celine Dion are expected to meet in a train station. Celine Dion finds herself at the station and must choose between these two entities.

    If you go
    Everything is old
    And the earth we live without
    I believe in you
    And I would rather
    It turns with us

    Here we have the impression that these are two entities that are currently coveting Celine Dion, it seems that these two people tell him exactly what they expect from the singer. Everyone wants to win for his cause. The obscure entity wants to lead a winning battle against the forces of good, while the entity wants to make clear conduct a peaceful struggle for existence and against the forces of evil.

    The real Celine Dion is coming to the station

    Then she sits on a bench

    The Celine Dion shows up as light-footed

    People come to the station usually

    Do what you want
    Do what you want
    But stay here
    Spread the hot and cold
    And if you leave me a little rain
    I love that my sun

    Hot and cold, rain and sun, we are still and always the theme of conflict between Satan and God. Here we are trying to deceive Celine Dion (and therefore all his listeners) through the casting, they can do what they want, they can do good or do harm, and it will always be compensated for In a way.

    The Celine Dion of the darkness comes down by train

    The Celine Dion of darkness ails the people around him

    I sleep with you
    Even if you’re not here
    You are my only dream
    My only country
    And my only friend
    And my love of music

    Here it seems that Celine Dion is a praise to which this evil spirit which gives it the glory it had in music, at the same time, it seems that this evil spirit who is Celine Dion to pander to his talents as a young musician.

    The train ahead of Celine Dion nice
    We are in the midst of an ongoing negotiation between our good side and our bad side is what is happening in this piece. Awareness of Celine Dion begs to keep it in the light, while darkness has taken the lead in the process do not say a word but surely gaining ground and efficiently.

    Do what you want
    Do what you want
    But stay here
    Spread the hot and cold
    And if you leave me a little rain
    I love that my sun

    Do what thou wilt is the Law of Thelema, it was taught to a large satanist named Aleister Crowley, an evil spirit named Aiwass, so it’s the continuation of this philosophy to life in this clip music and in modern society with other artists such as Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Rhianna, Kayne West, Jay-Z, etc …

    People fill the station
    We have all types of people in the station, which is a symbolic representation of men in society, each in turn, which also means every man for himself. It is a reflection of our capitalist system in crisis of spiritual values ??in which we live today. There is a social malaise that everyone feels because of his loneliness. It is very difficult to be recognized by the wider public, and unfortunately what most people want: success, fame, wealth, social recognition, etc …

    The good comes with color to brighten the gloom of this clip

    If you have to fight
    I will fight as
    I will play my life
    My last card to keep you

    By Celine Dion accepts the deal, she accepted the proposal that was the evil spirit, to the point where it is determined to fight and even whether to give his life to keep this spirit and all the privileges it grants to Celine Dion. She is ready to play his life, and even his last card. Here we are not far from the path of no return then!

    Good passes in front of Celine Dion

    Celine Dion denies the property in the mocking gaze

    Do what you want
    Do what you want
    But stay here
    I’m your toy
    And if you leave me a little rain
    My love will change my nights in the sun

    Make your toy to me, now this spirit gave him permission to be used by it to satisfy his desire for glory. Yes yes yes, Celine Dion practice of witchcraft as any other musical artists. It is ultimately the rule and there is no exception in this environment Luciferian.

    Evil made its arrival at the rendezvous

    Celine Dion looks evil in the face

    Celine Dion denies the good, it ignores the bright side

    Goes well and let Celine Dion with evil

    The well is very disappointed to
    There is something very telling in this video clip: It just goes walking by train (The Celine Dion of the property), while the train is coming off (the evil Celine Dion), this is a contradictory movement that demonstrates perfectly that it is indeed both be antagonistic namely light and darkness. We must understand one thing, Celine Dion joined the secret societies, where a person joins the group tight, it should always make a public statement codified. Only the initiated in these mystical things have really understood what it is in this clip. Celine Dion has pledged allegiance to the dark side and to formalize that she has a clip. This clip is also not a single clip to own esoteric allusions.

    The salvation of horned Satan
    The title of this piece alludes to the proverb presented by the French writer Francois Rabelais called the Renaissance, which would later become one of the partisans and the modern occult law of Thelema Aleister Crowley! So stop deluding you, fame is not something that comes by chance, the prince of this world (Satan) has a powerful army of singers, most of these singers of popular culture, like Celine Dion, use techniques esoteric / mystical / magic in order to bewitch the masses. Do not think that it is through their own strength and skill or by luck they manage to capture the attention of the whole world. These artists are magicians, they are magical practices in order to take you to live a lifestyle that will eventually disqualify you from the kingdom of heaven. The challenge that’s life eternal, we must now choose sides.

    Many people tell me they are not ultimately what’s wrong with Celine Dion. I’ll tell you something, all these world-famous singers (not only) are promoting a lifestyle that will automatically disqualify the kingdom of heaven, do not believe that there is the rock and roll that is satanic. Whatever is the satanic lie is because the devil is a liar and he lied from the beginning. Yes, Celine Dion is a liar, since none of the songs we do talk about the plan of redemption or salvation in Jesus Christ. You may tell me I’m going too far but I’ll tell you something: For one thing is said to be true, it is necessary that this thing is 100% true, without any ambiguity. This music gives people a false sense of peace to people. When people hear the songs of Celine Dion, they feel in their hearts some peace in the meantime they are not saved at all, they have deep inside them a philosophy of a Quebec woman who managed to penetrate the depths of their subconscious to finally make them understand that salvation is in themselves. These singers will get all sorts of feelings of spiritual security, but ultimately they will definitely get away from the one and only Savior who is Jesus Christ.

    Then you must know one thing, Celine Dion (You’ll see right at the bottom of the photo) is part of a very large family, I let you judge with the photograph of the bottom.

    Celine Dion is somewhere in the photo – After do not say that politics has nothing to do with entertainment
    I’m not going to condemn Celine Dion, the Bible is responsible for condemning everyone, what I do here is to present a Horusien / Luciferian that blinds the majority of people who intended to bring many to hell. You can not go far in the world of stars if not part of a tight circle. I am sorry to tell you the truth but I have no choice: Celine Dion is an illuminati (Maybe not in the strict sense, but certainly in the sense that it is illuminated by occult knowledge that it acquires through its secret initiations). None of these celebrities have to support the truth, the truth is in Jesus Christ alone. So turn away from all these stars, even Celine Dion, this celebrity will take you to hell if you do not turn away from her, she has already given his life to someone other than Jesus Christ and the Day of Judgement, it will have much to answer for herself that she can not do anything for you. Yet Jesus Christ he can do absolutely everything for you right now, especially now that it is God’s right hand and intercedes for you. You must give your life to Jesus Christ, this world is illusion and deception, we are in the matrix.

    These celebrities n’arrangent in no case, however, they are programmed to keep you in this virtual world because of unrealistic dreams and desires. They’ll keep it that way until death overtake you. Yet Jesus Christ has already paid the price for you. Close up of Jesus Christ right now because times are bad, you can not listen to Celine Dion and claim to follow Jesus Christ (or true Christianity) since Jesus vomit the lukewarm, it accepts only the cold boiling for him.

    Maranatha!

  300. BUTTERFLY says:

    Celine Dion,Madonna,etc.. Have a star on the Walk of fame (Hollywood). Even Beyonce,Justin Timberlake,etc. are included the Walk Of fame. Mariah Carey,one of the most successful artists ever doesn’t have a star in Walk of Fame although so much years of success and accomplishments in music doesn’t include the next list…This is because she doesn’t deserve it or rather because they just forget her ???

  301. BUTTERFLY says:

    @Divas Live : You are just 13 years old ? So,you are a child.I will ignore you cause you are too young to take part in this debate.Go and play with kids like you.

  302. BUTTERFLY says:

    [Admin note: please don’t copy/paste articles. post links instead]

    I copy this part, from a french article :
    archives-lepost.huffingtonpost.fr/article/2010/01/15/1888855_les-plus-grandes-stars-appartiennent-elle-a-une-societe-secrete-malefique.html

  303. BUTTERFLY says:

    Mariah left Mottala and Sony,but she didn’t denounced them.She prefers to say that Mottola and Sony team had too much influences and pressures in her artistical choices.She was smart enough to didn’t denounce Mottola,but rather changed mainly her musical genres and her image.So that,medias,institutions,fans etc. can’t discerns the real reasons of her decision to leave Sony and her husband.That’s why she stay alive.Otherwise she would be killed.

  304. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    You give me the first link because it has her name on it??? It accuses her because she wore silver. EVERYONE wears silver. Because she sang a Michael Jackson song that they think is about a new world? Don’t you think she sang it in honor of Michael Jackson? He stopped working with Mottola because he didn’t like the way he worked with others. And seriously? The second link is a BLOG! No proof. Actually, what the THOUGHT was proof wasn’t. It was a song and music video from the fricken 80’s!! Mottola didn’t even know her back then! You just look for anything with the word Illuminati and Celine.

  305. BUTTERFLY says:

    I know that Lucky Luke ( Dreamlover ) will post comments to try everything to prove me wrong and invalidate these links and arguments.He will say that all these are fan made,that anyone could do the same about an artist that he hate and construct arguments and create links.That Mariah is implied in Illuminati too,etc…
    Honestly, I didn’t want to soil Celine’s reputation,neither other artists,but just want to show that the Illuminati question is based on real facts,not invented by me because I hate Celine or other artists that are implied -).

  306. BUTTERFLY says:

    I know that Lucky Luke ( Dreamlover ) will post comments to try everything to prove me wrong and invalidate these links and arguments.He will say that all these are fan made,that anyone could do the same about an artist that they hate and built arguments and create links.That Mariah is implied in Illuminati too,etc…
    Honestly, I didn’t try to soil Celine’s reputation and success,neither those of other artists,but just want to show that the Illuminati question exist and is based on real facts,not invented by me or simple haters.

  307. BUTTERFLY says:

    youtube.com/watch?v=CcIa2Ml
    youtube.com/watch?v=CcIa2Mlwc30wc30CcIa2Mlwc30

  308. Dreamlover says:

    @ BUTTERFLY

    These links are fan made. CHECK.

    Anyone can make these blogs. CHECK.

    Celine’s name is mentioned and Mariah’s as well (and Whitney’s and Madonna’s and Beyonce’s and Rihanna’s) since they have much success
    and it is very expected to be hated from jealous people who try to ruin
    their reputation.

    Since you don’t want to ruin Celine’s reputation the whole Illuminati
    discussion is OVER. However, if you want to post crap about her, then be
    ready for the worse cause I (and everyone with access on google) can do the same.

    That being said, I don’t have time to debate and I’m not in the mood either.
    You’d rather stop referring to my posts and name since I am absent like
    I said earlier.

    Finally, the industry DOES forget a few artists sometimes. For instance
    they never gave a Diamond Award to Madonna or Whitney or Barbra
    although all of them have sold more than 100m albums !

    Bottom Line :

    Do YOU like Celine ? YES.

    Do I like Mariah ? YES.

    So no matter what ANYONE posts these women will be great examples
    for us and their music will always be inspirational. No matter what others say we have brains not to believe that crap or just choose to ignore it.

    Instead of wasting your time searching the links, you’d rather listen to Celine singing Call The Man, Let’s Talk About Love, Ave Maria, La Memoire D’Abraham, Une Colombe and other great songs about positivity, religion and spirituality.

    BYE !

  309. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    Like you said, you went too far. This debate has nothing to do with Christianity (I am a Christian though) do you call yourself a Christian and then insult everyone? If Celine already “signed herself” and that none of us should listen to her, why do you do it? What you said makes you sound like a Christian. If you are, then you shouldn’t be listening to her yourself. Practice what you preach before you tell anyone else to do so. This whole thing has to do with whether Celine is illuminati or not. Does not have anything to do with whether she’s evil. You can’t say her songs have to do with evil. You can’t say She’s illuminati. You have no right and are not in the position to say so. You don’t even have REAL proof. These are all blogs or made by some loser who has no life. Unless you can get Mottola or Celine to say that she is illuminati, I don’t want to hear anything. Unless you have that proof, Celine is not illuminati and thats it. Mariah was illuminati and she was popular when she was. Now, not so much. Celine is popular because her manager knows the business and takes risks.

  310. What the what?? says:

    Besides half the people on earth think illuminati is just a theory. I honestly believe it doesn’t exist, but Mottola follows their footsteps. Celine is a roman catholic. You think Catholics are part of Illuminati?

  311. What the what?? says:

    But what do I know? I don’t really know or care about illuminati that existed over 200 years ago. But if someone knows something, PROVE ME WRONG

  312. Divas Live says:

    @ Butterflop

    ,,,,,,Bravo now you can be a pastor……. no wonder soon you will build your own church………thank God ,,,mom let me bring my loptop….
    ……Celine Dion Will sing the….Prayer for God’s Glory…….& even the Pope from Vatican will cry to hear it…. yes its true anyone can make a blog like that……….Celine Dion Still win…….muah…..

  313. Divas Live says:

    Mariah Carey’s daughter named Monroe Cannon, is seen here dressed as a Diamond Presidential model with the diamond headpiece in which crowns, tiaras, and any diamond headpiece are significant of the status of the Monarch slave, and the pearl necklace which links with pedophile triggering/sex kitten programming, holding a white rabbit which is part of Alice in Wonderland programming. She was named after Marilyn Monroe who was the first presidential sex kitten. Their logo for their site that shows their Monarch babies is a butterfly. The twins nicknamed Roc and Roe, are already looking traumatized and the recent interview with Barbara Walters who wore Oz green, had Mariah and Nick discuss how they are handling being parents to their 6 month old twins.

    That’s why Mariah Carey is considered as An Illuminati Puppet….

    Marilyn Monroe has been named as a MC slave by a number of researchers including Springmeier. Proof is nearly impossible due to the lack of a paper trail. What’s needed is to develop an understanding of the techniques used to create MC slaves, and of the uses to which the slaves are put, in order to determine who is what. But I think it can be a waste of time to focus on “celebrities” when it’s the power behind them that needs to be exposed.
    Chapman (Lennon) and Hinckley (raygun) were likely mind-controlled. I haven’t seen Salinger’s The Catcher In The Rye mentioned in this forum as a programming tool, but copies of the book routinely turn up in the coat pockets of these “assassins”. I remember that in junior high, I was compelled to get a copy and read it, though I had no class assignment for it. Perhaps I was programmed, but at some point, the programming broke down. At least I hope that’s the case.
    This is very tricky stuff, as those with any experience with it know. Great Caution is advised in pursuit of this knowledge.
    I’ll mention Kathleen Sullivan’s website (which I posted on another thread) again.
    naffoundation.org/
    She’s a survivor of MC with a ton of info on this. Also Fritz Springmeier has covered the celebrity angle, naming names, in his work. It’s available online with a google search of his name.

  314. Divas Live says:

    Mariah Carey is Illuminati member she use the symbol of Manarch Butterfly..

  315. BUTTERFLY says:

    @What the what:
    “Celine is not illuminati and thats it. Mariah was illuminati and she was popular when she was. Now, not so much. Celine is popular because her manager knows the business and takes risks.” Where are your proofs ?

    Dear honey,facts prove that Celine was illuminati.Facts also prove that she is still illuminati.Mariah was never illuminati,that’s why she was always in rebellion against Motolla and Sony team.
    – Mariah was popular because of her unique voice,her unique singing talent and her unique songwriting skills.
    – As Mariah’s manager.Mottola had believe in her unique talent and takes risks by spending huge money in her debut album to launch her career .
    – Celine’s manager himself happened to launch Celine’s international career thanks to Mariah’s manager ( Mottola).So,Rene doesn’t know the business of music as well as Mottola who was the Boss of Sony Music.

    You said that Mariah was illuminati when you also said that you don’t believe in it.If you said that don’t believe in illuminati just to clear Celine and deny that she is illuminati, don’t even try to imply Mariah,cause most facts show that Celine is implied than Mariah.

  316. What the what?? says:

    @TRISH
    “You said that Mariah was illuminati when you also said that you don’t believe in it.If you said that don’t believe in illuminati just to clear Celine and deny that she is illuminati, don’t even try to imply Mariah,cause most facts show that Celine is implied than Mariah.”

    But I did say Mottola followed their footsteps didn’t I? What I meant was Mottola was Mariah’s manager for a while and since Mottola was illuminati-like, so I just called them illuminati. But I would see why it’d be confusing so I’m sorry for that. But you know what? You can insult me and call me a liar, and tell me this is just an excuse for all this, but your opinion about me and what I post are the last things in the world I’d care about. So go right ahead.

    Mariah had a time where she didn’t sell very much. Now, she’s sexualized herself even more and started singing songs aimed at younger people. So now, she doesn’t have as much fans her age or older, limiting her audience.

    You keep saying that there are facts that prove Celine is illuminati. But all the you’ve brought are blogs made by random people. And even if they weren’t THEY didn’t give any facts. And here you are, asking me and laughing at me for not bringing true and reliable facts.

    Would an illuminati marry in a church? Would an illuminati sing songs bout God? Would an illuminati baptize their kids? Would illuminatis be Christians? You know what? ANDHC, a song that you claim talks about everything illuminati stands for, to Celine and Rene, is all about their miracle son, Rene Charles.

    P.S. this has nothing to do with this debate, but Madonnas halftime performance was awful.

  317. What the what?? says:

    P.P.S. Shebsaid it in an interview while shooting her music video for it

  318. MACaROni x says:

    Madonna is the best !

  319. Divas Live says:

    im crying ryt now Whetney Houston is pass away,,,,love you so much Whetney,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now ,,,,its only Mariah Carey Will next to Celine Dion…as a Most Successful female Artist Of all time……….

  320. TRISH says:

    I am crying Whitney’s death since Saturday night.Music lovers around the world mourn this incredible vocalist and sublime singer.She was an accomplished Diva and had a real original talent.Her singing style influenced the greatest vocalists in the planet as such Mariah Carey,Celine Dion ,Toni Braxton,etc.I am one of her biggest fans and I send my sympathies to her fans that are very hurted by this sad misfortune.
    I will Always Love You Whitney Houston. RIP

  321. tane says:

    Man so sad whitney died! was a true legend:)

  322. Dreamlover says:

    This will be my final comment.

    I’m devastated by Whitney’s death. I’ve been crying a lot the past days listening to her beautiful songs such as Run To You, I Will Always Love You, I Have Nothing, Didn’t We Almost Have It All and more than that. I’ve been in shock and in tears about it, although I never really cry. :/ I hope she rests in peace.

    My advice to all of you is to stop fighting. Just think how you’re going to feel if Celine and Mariah die. Will you proud of the things you post? Won’t you feel guilty for insulting them? So that’s my advice. Music should make people come together. That’s what I wanted to say.

    Bye bye.

  323. cocodi says:

    Well, Celine Dion’s tours are always among the top 5 best selling tour. Her Taking Chances tour was the best grossing female tour of 2008. She is known universally. Even people in very remote locations with no internet or TV know My heart Will Go on. Mariah Carey is successful too but she couldn’t pull off a 5-night a week sold out shows. First of all, she won’t even be on time, she will be late all the time.

  324. TRISH says:

    youtube.com/user/patipatou79

    This is my you tube account.See how pressed I am.I post comments on videos about Celine every day.I have posted on 10 Celine videos the past week.I am so retarded and spiteful over this kind, talented woman.I call her ugly, old, nasal, robot and I also say that all her peers outsell and outsing her.My last argument is that she lost her voice. Please see my activity and subscribe to my flop channel.

  325. BUTTERFLY says:

    Follow my account : youtube.com/user/patipatou79

    This is some of the most recent comments I wrote:

    ”Could celiniacs talk about a celine vocal asset out of her nasal screams ??? Mariah’s voice is all about amazing riffs,runs,melismas,soft notes,low notes,powerful notes and belts,whistle register,etc. Celine ? Only nasal screams…Sorry,but this is the truth”

    ”Celine crows like a rooster today,she has no voice .Her graceless belts can’t face? Mariah’s melodious and creative and various vocals,sorry.Mariah is still the vocal queen and Celine could never touch her vocally.Keep deluding yourself posting your crap here.You and Luxiusta go and fu** you each other,dirty pigs.Just deal with the fact that Mariah is 100 times better than nasalion !”

    See? I have a very sad life so I am still spending time bashing Celine Dion.
    I have been doing this since 2010 when I first entered the popdirt debate.
    I am so pathetic but anyway,please subscribe to my flop channel.

  326. Divas Live. says:

    OMG……….you ruined your life & dawdle your time for nothing……anyway

    the truth is …….yah its true that celine dion has a nasal voice but… its just only happened because Celine has an infection of her nose…but she can still handle it….Mariah ??? wow i really cry when i hear her version of i wanna know what love is…..///////after Celine & Mariah there will no body next there line with whetney…. no one……..no one… Only Mariah ,Celine & Whetney……. I hope Mariah’s Voice get back in shape……I hope Celine Dion will take her break so that she can rest for awhile to preserve her voice Because she’s totaly over work her voice her troath is not in a good condition…nowadays because of over work….. long live for the two living legend…… A legend Diva

  327. MIMI says:

    celine is a good singer but i love MARIAH MOST!

  328. alexkaworsky says:

    i love celine dion..

    she win more than one thousand awards..
    mariah carey you are a loser..

  329. CHERIBIBI says:

    Mariah Carey is the winner ! Inform yourself about Mariah,Celine doesn’t come even close to her.Mariah is the best!

  330. Mariah Carey says:

    LOL at this mess. I didn’t even know Horseline Dion still had fans judging by her boring music (only old people used to support her, I guess). I thought they were all dead by know like her career.

  331. Divas Live says:

    Are You Blind??????/ I think You dont Have ears,eyes & television OMG…………………just went to Las Vegas Darling Celine is performing there every night & people around the world specially Rich People Darling Rich People travel Only to see her …………….how about you ???? where are you now…????

  332. rubi says:

    i agree that Celine is a successful singer, but there is no way she can be better in singing than Mariah Carey! Celine is just an overrated singer! she only win with her long sustaining note and LOUD note, but NOT powerful! can Celine do whistle? can Celine do Melisma? can Celine do low notes? Can Celine do higher belting than Mariah Carey? Did Celine have more than 5 octaves range? can Celine use mixed voice? Even her head voice is way weaker than Mariah Carey! oh not to forget that Mariah’s longest note is in the Lead The Way for 18s, can Celine do that? NO WAY, Celine wont be able to do all of it even in her best year! she just win in the album sales because she made a lot of album, but technically, she is way too far to be compared to Mariah Carey! even Beyonce’s technique is better than her

    sorry, i need to say the truth about that, thought i love Celine Dion and i think that she is a good singer too

  333. rubi says:

    I love Celine Dion, really, she have a lot of great song and she is definitely better than Madonna in singing, but to be compared to Mariah Carey in singing, its just impossible! Mariah have more talent than anybody else, so that would be fine even if Celine cant surpasses Mariah in singing! at least Celine can make me laugh every time i watch her concert, with her funny style in the stage that Mariah wont be able to do it

  334. Divas Live says:

    Oh…Really now tell me where is Mariah Carey when she & Celine is on the same stage together with Aretha Franklin does anyone notice & hear where is Mariah at that time……hahahahaha…..Divas live 1998 Mariah was blown away & become mute… because she know whose the boss….in the stage Live darling ……Live…..concert.Mariah was K.O by Celine…just live with it.

  335. Divas Live says:

    Mariah is a great singer The whole world knows she can do this & do that..etc. but………. the question is Why?/// Why Most people chose Celine voice than Mariah?
    Is there any big company build a hundred million dollar theater for Mariah?
    Ans, No but Celine yes

    Why is it that Grammy award ceremony choose Celine Dion to perform several time than Mariah.?

    Why Is that until now Mariah has no Star in the Hollywood walk of fame.?
    Celine Dion has one.

    Why is that continents around the world give Celine an award for best selling female artist ..while Mariah just few.

    Why is that Celine Dion Tour is more successful than Mariah if she is better than Celine. That’s why Celine Become best earner of the decade while Mariah is flopping.

    Mariah is not comfortable with her voice she need to display all she got to justify her music.Celine is very comfortable with her voice as well as the audience that listening to her she don’t need Melisma because she’s knew how to interpret her music.

    Mariah is at best when she was young but today nonono shes not in the list.

  336. Divas Live says:

    I dont know if its right to start this again ,,,,,,,,I love Both artist please enough ,,,,,,, we all know mariah is a complete package but Celine is the one & only.

  337. CELINE2013 says:

    This comment is so so right!!!

    “Mariah is a great singer The whole world knows she can do this & do that..etc. but………. the question is Why?/// Why Most people chose Celine voice than Mariah?
    Is there any big company build a hundred million dollar theater for Mariah?
    Ans, No but Celine yes

    Why is it that Grammy award ceremony choose Celine Dion to perform several time than Mariah.?

    Why Is that until now Mariah has no Star in the Hollywood walk of fame.?
    Celine Dion has one.

    Why is that continents around the world give Celine an award for best selling female artist ..while Mariah just few.

    Why is that Celine Dion Tour is more successful than Mariah if she is better than Celine. That’s why Celine Become best earner of the decade while Mariah is flopping.

    Mariah is not comfortable with her voice she need to display all she got to justify her music.Celine is very comfortable with her voice as well as the audience that listening to her she don’t need Melisma because she’s knew how to interpret her music.

    Mariah is at best when she was young but today no no no shes not in the list.”

    You must all accept the fact.

    As of January 2013: Celine FB Fans already Overlapped Mariah FB Fans and still counting. YOU SEE!! Celine doesn’t stop inspiring people all over the world! She’s amazing!

  338. Divas Live says:

    Celine Dion is The real Diva & a True Legend Shes Still very successful with her album sans attendre ……..While Maria Carey’s Triumphant is……………..you know……really don’t work….
    people still love her. She don’t need to be involve & fight with someone to promote her ………album etc…. There are still some people in this world knows what is a good music is… Despite of her age she can still sang Whitney Houston songs ..at the tribute for Whitney…..Mariah Carey Can’t Do that …
    She Already Ruin Micheal Jackson’s funeral she’s afraid to do it again..

    Mariah Carey needs a break & preserve her voice She’s Also working so hard she need some rest.

  339. Ina says:

    Haii I’m from Indonesia..
    I love Celine Dion ?

  340. Ina says:

    I love Celine since 1995
    She’s not only my favorite singer, but also my inspiration to be a good women, a good wife, a good mom. She’s everything. I don’t care what people say, Celine will be and always no. 1 for me.. There are so many a good singer but no one can be such a perfect women like her.. .

  341. GISELE says:

    Mariah is way better and greater than Celine in everything ! Popularity, sales, vocals, techniques,talent, look, etc. Celine can just be compare with Christina, she’s not in Mariah’s level

  342. GISELE says:

    Mariah can sing on every notes in her songs, then decorate them with complex and tricky riffs and melismas.Mariah is impredictable in each song unlike Celine. Celine can just belt out every of her songs, like does Christina, Jennifer,Leona,and many other vocalists .This is not so special to belt in a song. Celine is the most overrated singer in the planet

  343. Monrepos says:

    Mariah of course is better.Celine is a good entertainer,that’s all.About singing talents and accomplishments,she’s far to reach what Mariah does.

  344. MADONNA4EVER ! says:

    Madonna is better singer than Mariah.She can outsing Mariah’s songs like Butterfly, We Belong Together, Emotions,My All or Love Takes Time easily.
    Celine ? Hahaha ! She’s nothing more than a joke.Even Leona or Christina outsing her nasal screams easily. She got just My Heart Will Go n as notable song, and she’s so ugly !
    Mariah got huge boobs and bad vocals. Madonna is the queen of vocalists !

  345. Divas Live says:

    Mariah is nothing and that’s the reality …Celine Dion can still sing for more decades While Mariah can only do Whispering & lipzinking see American Idol Finally ………….Maria is no more……She cant even sing properly no emotions ,,,at all…..She cant even Entertain …..that’s why shes flopping ……;(

    Cristina has no respect for each song she always over sang it…without meaning ..

    Leona????? Leona who does she sold 250 million album like Celine ….or does she can out sing Aretha & Mariah on stage??? like Celine does in divas live 1998 Poor Idiots….

    & Whose Jennifer ???? is she a Super star like Celine..& Whitney…?

  346. Divas Live says:

    Mariah & Madonna are in the same level………

    but Whitney & Celine …..is in the highest level of singer…..
    believe it or not…Lolol…lol……

  347. Nisa says:

    Reading Trish comments…..I’m going crazy…..! She proves nothing except lies!! The word success isn’t based on most number 1 hits in US because this world isn’t only about US!!! Celine is bigger, more succesful. I’m Cambodian, and here in Asia, we adore Celine. She doesn’t strip, she can sing, she is polite. Unlike Mariah, I don’t wanna call her whore but everyone knows it!

  348. Nisa says:

    The Celine Vs Mariah is an interesting topic But Madonna VS Mariah? Madonna Vs Celine? Pls stop:)) Madonna is a good marketer, she is a better performer. In terms of singing, she is nowhere close to Celine and Mariah

  349. Numbers don't lie says:

    Sans Attendre sold 1.5m worldwide, Loved Me Back To Life 1.5m, Me I Am Mariah is out of charts already won’t even sell 200k worldwide. The album debuted with 95k worldwide which is less than what Loved Me Back To Life sold in its first week in Canada (105k).
    Celine in Canada >>> Mariah worldwide.

    Huge flop after her 2010 Christmas album that only sold 700k in total.

    Celine is still selling out shows in US, Canada, France, Jamaica, Belgium. Everywhere she decides to go…!

    Celine Dion has always been the biggest global star and time proves that.

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