Mariah Carey- Female Artist Of All Time

Contributed by Kizzardkid:

Okay so I have to post this under the thoughts and opinions thing, but everything that is about to be said is the truth. is the best selling Female artist of all time…

Since her debut in 1990, Mariah Carey has sold more than 160 million albums worldwide, which she falls just behind the Beatles and Elvis. And with the Beatles and Elvis no longer making music, that makes Mariah Carey the best selling artist alive, if that’s not politically correct.

The career of Mariah Carey is a succession of records. Her first five singles all reached the first place in the Billboard Hot 100. She has the record of the longest Number 1 hit in the history of the modern Billboard and she is the only artist who has a Number 1 hit in every year of the ’90s. Mariah has spent more weeks at the top than the Beatles. She has seen more singles debut at Number 1 than any artist in chart history. Furthermore, she has more gold and platinum singles than any artist during the 1990s and more platinum singles than any female artist in history.

Listed Below are some of Mariah Carey’s greatest Achievements:

Total at #1
This is the total number of weeks with only the singles, that each album has had at #1… Also the highest position for the album and how many weeks…

Mariah Carey
Total of 11 weeks at #1, with singles only.
The album itself also spent 11 weeks at #1!!!
Mariah Carey debuted at #80.
Emotions
Total of 3 weeks at #1, with singles only.
The album itself spent 2 weeks at #4…
Emotions debuted at #4.
Mtv Unplugged
Total of 2 weeks at #1, with singles only.
The album itself spent 4 strait weeks at #3…
The album spent a total of 5 weeks at the #3 position
Mtv Unplugged debuted at #8.
Music Box
Total of 12 weeks at #1, with singles only.
The album itself spent 3 strait weeks at #1 (twice)…
The album spent a total of 8 weeks at the #1 position
Music Box debuted at #2.
Merry Christmas
The album itself spent 1 week at #3…
Merry Christmas debuted at #30.
Merry Christmas is the biggest selling Christmas album EVER, with over 9 million plus copies sold worldwide.
Daydream
Total of 26 weeks at #1, with singles only.
The album itself spent 3 strait weeks at #1 (twice)…
The album spent a total of 6 weeks at the #1 position
Daydream debuted at #1.
Butterfly
Total of 3 weeks at #1, with singles only.
The album itself spent 1 weeks at #1…
Butterfly debuted at #1..
VH1 Divas Live
The album itself debuted on the charts at #37.
Highest position so far #21…
#1’s
“When You Believe” has reached #15, making it the lowest charting single of Mariah’s.
“I Still Believe” has reached #4…
The album itself debuted at #4, and that is currently the highest position it held… It spent one week at #4, and returned for another week at #4.

Billboard Achivements
1.) Only artist, ever, to have first 5 Singles go to #1.
2.) First Female artist to have a single Debut at #1, with “Fantasy”.
3.) The only artist to have TWO singles Debut at #1, with “Fantasy” and “One Sweet Day”. With this, she is the only artist to have TWO consecutive singles debut at #1, with “Fantasy” and “One Sweet Day”.
4.) Longest time at the #1 position (consecutive weeks) with “One Sweet Day” that was there for 16 Weeks.
5.) The only artist ever to have THREE singles to Debut at #1 with “Fantasy”,”One Sweet Day”, and “Honey”…
6.) Mariah has the record for having the most consecutive years with a #1 single… She has had at least one #1 hit since 1990…

Most #1’s ever!

Here are the artist with the most #1 hits.
1.) Beatles – 20
2.) Elvis Preslty – 18
3.) Mariah Carey – 16
3.) Michael Jackson – 13
5.) Surpremes – 12
6.) Whitney Houston – 11
6.) Madonna – 11
8.) Paul McCartney/Wings – 10
8.) Stevie Wonder – 10
8.) George Michael/Wham – 10

Most #1’s of the 90’s
Here is the list of the top 9 artist with the most #1 hits of the 90’s…
1.) Mariah Carey – 16
2.) Janet Jackson – 6
3.) Madonna – 4
3.) Whitney Houston – 4
3.) Boyz II Men – 4
6.) Wilson Phillips – 3
6.) Paula Abdul – 3
6.) Bryan Adams – 3
6.) celine dion – 3

Most Weeks at #1, ever!
1.)Elvis Presley – 79 weeks
2.) Mariah Carey – 60 weeks
3.) The Beatles – 59 weeks

Okay so with all that said, if any of you guys even read it, don’t blame you if you didn’t, just wanted to get the facts straight that Mariah Carey is not a flop and I mean who can achieve soo much in just a few years?


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365 thoughts on “Mariah Carey- Female Artist Of All Time

  1. tsktsk. says:

    I agree with you ! people are still taking about Beatles and Elvis Presley and Whitney Huston . No none of those artist make music no more. so they shouldn’t even be compared to Mariah’s standards. And first off Whitney Huston never had more hits then Mariah so WHITNEY IS NOT the female artist with the most number 1 hits. but she is in fact the female artist with the most #1 its from a album.

    BILLBOARD CHARTS:

    1. Beatles – 19 #1 Billboard Hits
    2. Mariah Carey – 18 # 1 Billboard Hits
    3. Elvis Presley – 17 #1 Billboard Hits

    Case Closed.

  2. Aha says:

    Mariah Carey 18th Number Ones..thanks to airplay (payola effect it seems) not actual sales. Duh!

  3. HwJutsu says:

    Elvis has 18 number 1 records, not 17. Total weeks is 80.

  4. MUSiiQ says:

    ACTUALLY Elvis has 17 # 1s, Mariah has 18 # 1s and is the only recording artist in the 50 years of Hot 100 with the potential to match or surpass the Beatles 20 # 1 Hits.

  5. stef says:

    your information is incorrect as to who has the most number one hits. the top artist is George Strait with 56, Conway Twitty with 55 and the beatles with 20 I know you are a huge fan of hers but she as not accomplish what these other artist have. and George strait is still adding he now has 57 and is about to hit number one again with his new single

  6. jaymz says:

    George Strait has 57 combined number #1’s, 44 of those are on the Billboard Hot Country Chart. But the Beatles, Mariah Carey and Elvis hold the top three spots on the most #1 hits on the Billboard Hot100. I’m sure the Beatles, Mariah Carey and Elvis have had other hits on other charts but what they were tallying was the Hot100 only.

  7. Laura says:

    November, 2005

    Warner Music Group has agreed to pay a $5 million fine after an investigation by New York State Attorney General Elliott Spitzer’s office found that the company has been involved in complicated payola schemes.

    Madonna is a payola singer, LMAO!!

    Well, I already knew this: she isn’t an artist!

  8. markus says:

    Funny…

    all are just about singles.
    if Mariah had these many number 1 singles as you lame lambs brag about then why is it that she has not even surpassed MADONNA, who eventually is the Biggest Selling Female Artist of ALL time, with only sales of less than 200M?

    it is fact that Mariah is only big on US billboard charts. it ends there. her album sales has not reached 200M, her singles has not reached 100M

    only CELINE DION AND MADONNA has done this.

  9. Mars says:

    Markus, its because Madonna has been selling before Mariah came into the industry. if the number of professional years are compared, you’ll see that Mariah beats Madonna.

  10. Alexis says:

    Mars:

    Madonna has exactly 7 years more than Mariah Carey and she has sold more than 336 millions according to guiness and according to warner bros. inc. IFPI, 2005 she overpassed 380 million, just imagine now.
    Mariah Carey according to IFPI has sold only 180 millions, come on, Madonna has 200 millions over Mariah and that is a lot ! See ?
    If you look for profesional years , YOU’ll see the real fact which says that MADONNA BEATS MARIAH CAREY
    But well…… you are a Mariah Carey fan, you cannot recognize the truth.

  11. Alexis says:

    And anyway Madonna in 80s sold much more than Mariah in 90s, when Madonna was retired from studio albums and then when she re-appeared in 1998, she overshadowed Mariah Carey definetely, and for god sake Madonna doesn’t need a millenium award, Mariah Carey with that award was still irrelevant for many millions of people and not known for many others. I’m sorry but facts are facts, and according to guiness, ifpi, riaa, forbes, etc…. mMadonna is the biggest selling female artist of all time and most successful too.

  12. bill says:

    MIchael Jackson is the one artist of this era who will be remembered in 30 years, not Mariah.

  13. eddy says:

    Mariah Carey has 18 number ones single on bilboard charts thanks in part to Tommy motola everybody knows! that! if she never married with Tommy motola I’m sure that she haven’t so many number ones! the test when you divorce to Tommy she don’t have success that she had when married with him! that’s the real truth sorry fans to Mariah!

  14. Bella says:

    Mariah sold 120 million albums in the 90s, Madonna sold 90 million in the 80s. Mariah surpasses her in the most successful decade. Mariah has more successful singles as well as she has 18 number 1s and more platinum singles than any other female artist. Mariah is well more successful in the US, Madonna is more successful in the UK. Mariah didn’t start touring until her 3rd album too so she’s at a disadvantage, not to mention Madonna nearly has spent almost a decade longer in the industry. Mariah achieved way more in way less time than Madonna. On a side note, Mariah has something people like to call TALENT. She has written, and produced all of her songs to date with exception to her 3 covers, Without, I’ll be there and I Want To Know What Love Is. Mariah wins here so get over it stupid 300 yr old Madonna fans lol. They don’t introduce Mariah as “Please welcome, the best selling/most succesful female artist of all time, Marian Carey!” on every damn interview she’s on just to be nice hahaha.

  15. vdaddy21 says:

    *correction* according to billboard, Paul McCartney doesn’t qualify for this ranking as a solo artist because 9 of his 10 #1’s are with other artists. Janet Jackson is actually tied with stevie wonder for the #9 position with 10 #1’s. billboard also does’t credit George michael/wham in that ranking for that same reason because technically they are 2 different artists.

  16. vdaddy21 says:

    at stef… though you are correct in one respect, there is a specific stipulation to this particular ranking that makes you incorrect. this is hot 100 #1’s only not total. George strait has 56 or 57 totalo #1 singles, not 56 hot 1oo (pop)singles

  17. Necromasty says:

    You made up so much of that, quit lying. Madonna’s more successful and everyone with a brain knows it so get over it.

  18. !.! says:

    Mariah Carey, could be considered as BIGGEST selling female artist but she is no where near the most SUCCESSFUL. There is a difference. Madonna is the most successful worldwide, seriously 60 Top 10 hits in the UK, that’s amazing. However, she is over certified as people regard her Immaculate Collection as selling 10M in USA but Billboard tracked sales and it only sold 5M something. Read the articles.

    Mariah Carey – 15,000,000
    Emotions – 9,000,000
    MTV Unplugged – 6,500,000
    Music Box – 28,000,000
    Merry Christmas – 12,000,000
    Daydream – 23,000,000
    Butterfly – 12,000,000
    Rainbow – 10,000,000
    Glitter – 3,000,000
    Chambracelet – 3,500,000
    Emancipation Of Mimi – 10,000,000
    E-MC2 – 2,750,000
    Memoirs – 500,000+
    #1’s – 17,000,000
    Greatests Hits – 2,000,000
    Remixes – 1,000,000
    Ballads – 500,000

    US single sales are approximatelyy

  19. saipan,cnmi (checkit) says:

    okayy ppl. now quit the debating… they are both BIG selling artists… but Madonna got her title as best selling artist of all time by her concerts… Mariah on the other hand is consider the best selling artist because she sold A LOT with few concerts and tours… it was the music that sold…

  20. your dad says:

    Mariah is the best selling artist of the sound scan erra… meaning 90s Mariah has sold 160 million albums singles and videos combined… not just records….. Madonna has sold 275 million records and 175 million single that’s a total of 450 million… those are just the facts…. but I haven’t or will never see a dime out of Madonna or Mariah so who gives a crap…. Madonna and Mariah can kiss the days of selling 20 mill a record goodbye….

  21. DR deed says:

    maraih used the playola that’s for a fact…. Mariah has never filled a show… where Madonna sales out in min,, Madonna hasn’t got the best voice but makes up for it doing a show.. where Mariah hasn’t got a great voice live and she just walks back and fourth from side to side of stage and if your lucky she will lift her arm

  22. DR deed says:

    yeah maraih outsold Madonna in the 90s Mariah had 9 albums out Madonna 4 hmmm

  23. pascarlito says:

    Mariah is a better selling artist than Madonna.she has sold 175 million of albums and 50 million of singles,madonna has sold 170 million of albumms and 46 million of singles.So Mariah is better.

  24. brandon says:

    It’s true,Mariah is a born songtress and singer,Madonna is a improvised singer.without her spectacular shows or her scandals,Madonna is a average artist.Mariah is a great artist ,the # 1 female singer with her amazing, gorgeous voice and her hability to sing .

  25. michelle says:

    yeah! Mariah’s songs are so beautiful! it’s a affront to compare the incredible talent of Mariah with Madonna’s.Madonna was very lucky to become what she is today because she didn’t have a particular talent ( voice or singer hability ),all she had was her shamelessness and her determination.Mariah had her extraordinary voice,her particular singer hability and her great talent.Have you ever listening If it’s Over,Till The End Of Time Or And You Don’t Remember?

  26. Howie says:

    Mariah Carey is so much better than Madonna,and she sold more albums than Madonna.Mariah won more than 20 world music awards in her carrer,Madonna won just one world music award in her entirely carrer.Music Box and Daydream achieve almost 60 million units worldwide,just this both albums.Madonna can’t realize a performance like that.

  27. michelle says:

    Mariah is a better artist than Madonna.at her debut,she got her incredible voice,a great talent .Madonna had her determination and she were very extrovert,but she didn’t really have a talent.

  28. mark says:

    Mariah is the biggest female recording artist of all time, no question about it.

  29. Trish says:

    Yeah,Mariah is the best.Have you ever listening Emotions, Fantasy or Vision of love? What do you think about these songs ?Do you know someone who can sing those songs ever? do Madonna can ? Mariah forever!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. miguel says:

    The throne is only fit to one and of course to Madonna. I really don’t know why these Mariah fans just cannot accept that fact. They keep on using Billboard records. Hello? The US is not the only record market in the world! Plus the fact that your idol’s singles are sold with huge discounts! Cheap!

  31. Markus says:

    Madonna has the most top ten singles than any artist may it be The Beatles, Elvis or Michael Jackson. This only proves that even without the annoying whistle like what some fans brags about, it is still the message conveyed on the songs that make fans put your song on the US Billboard chart…sigh, always US Charts

    Heck Madonna kicks Mariah’s ass off on the UK and World Charts. Have you noticed that Madonna is the leading female artist with the most number 1 singles in the UK, came in second is Kylie and Mariah is nowhere the top 20 spot, in the US Billboard Madonna is placed second to Mariah with the most number 1 singles.

    MADONNA is the Game! Mariah just got served.

  32. Markus says:

    let Mariah sing VOGUE and you’d get SAUSAGE.

    let Mariah sing PAPA DON’T PREACH and you’d get PAPAYA AND PEACH

    come on! why the hell would you dare Madonna to sing Emotions? Emotions isn’t even included on Rolling Stone Magazines 100 Brilliant fu**ing songs of all time! Justify my love!

    Crap with the vocal octave. you don’t need high vocals to entertain the masses.

  33. Meredith says:

    Markus
    Markus you are a coward and you’re so stupid! You have the audacity to compare Mariah’s skilfulness with Madonna? you’re crazy Markus. Mariah can sing these sh*ts without problems (vogue,Papa don’t preach etc.).Morever,do you think that Madonna could ever sing Emotions, Fantasy,Without you,I want to know what love is or if it’s over etc?
    You are a bull***t Markus. Don’t face Mariah talent with Madonna cause Madonna haven’t talent at all compare with Mariah. Long life to Mariah !!! the voice ever and forever!!!!!!!!!!!

  34. Jason says:

    I agree with Meredith,Markus you must admit that Mariah is the huge vocalist ever,even WHITNEY HOUSTON can’t sing many songs of Mariah Carey. Madonna can’t compete with Mariah Carey at singing voice and hability.Madonna can compare with Janet Jackson,Britney Spears,J-Lo,Lady Gaga. But MARIAH??? Only Whitney can compete with her and Celine Dion too.Mariah Carey is the best singer artist of all times! she perform at Pop,Dance, Traditional R&B,Soul,Ballad,Rap,Gospel,Contemporary R&B, and her remixes are imbeattables.
    Don’t dare to compare Mariah with an useless artist like Madonna .Stop your bull***t Markus.

  35. Stacy says:

    Markus,everybody know that you lie or rave.What you said ain’t,it wasn’t,it never gonna be.Any great vocalist ( Whitney Houston ,Celine Dion,etc…) could never sing Want You ,Emotions,Bliss,Mine Again,Fantasy,Circles,We Belong Together,I Want To Know What Love Is,Your Girl,Migrate,Fly Like A Bird,I Wish You Knew,Loverboy,Through The Rain,If We, ,Angel’s Cry,etc…Therefore,how ordinary’s voice of singers like Madonna could ever do .If Madonna would try to sing Mine Again,she ‘d be breathless even before the first chorus.She’d try to sing, but the any sound would come out of her throat !!(I’ll even not talk about Emotions,Bliss,etc…)But at the opposite,Mariah Carey could sing any song from any female artist ( Whitney Houston,Celine Dion,Beyonce Knowles,Christina Aguilera,etc…) and even better songs from average –voice divas ( Madonna,Janet Jackson,Diana Ross,Jennifer Lopez,Britney Spears,Rihanna,etc… ). However,Mariah could sing their own songs much better than them.

  36. StacyMAIN RECORDS AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF MARIAH CAREY says:

    – Most skilful female singer of all times
    – Best voice ever overall (MTV,Blender Magazine,etc…)
    -Most powerful female voice of all times
    -Most extended female voice ever ( 5 octaves range).
    – First World best selling female artist of all times ( while 2001-2003),actually second World best selling female artist of all times.
    – 17 World Music Awards ,more than any artist overall.
    -Mariah Carey give 95 % of her musical material (Writing,Producing,Arranging,Composing),more than any female artist.
    – Only female singer with the title of Best Selling Artist Overall of a decade (1990’s).
    -Only Artist ever who got the Millennium Award
    – We Belong Together is the most popular song in USA for the 2000 decade and for these 13 last years.
    -Mariah Carey’s We Belong Together is the most successful song ever by a female artist in all Billboard history.
    -Mariah Carey’s We Belong Together is the song with the most cumulated weeks at # 1 in the US hot 100 ( 14 weeks).
    -The longest-running # 1 singles in history at US (One Sweet Day,16 weeks ) and Brazil ( I Want To Know What Love Is ,27 weeks )
    – Best-Selling Christmas Album of all times by a female artist (Merry Christmas,close to 17 million copies sold worldwide).
    -Best selling Christmas single of all times ( All I want For Christmas is You ,more than 10 million copies sold worldwide).
    -Record of higher notes reached by human voice and audible by dolphins (7th octave reached ).
    -Best-selling western artist in most of Asian countries ( Japan,China,Taiwan,Hong Kong,South Korea,North Korea,Singapore,Malaysia, Thailand,Phillipines,etc…)
    – # 1 Musical Influence in all major places of Asia.

    -Only female artist to have 10 albums certified 4 x platinum or better
    -Most # 1 singles than any currently active recording artist
    -Most # 1 albums of the 1990’s for a female artist ( by the end of 90’s she has like 8 # 1 albums)
    -Most weeks at # 1 on the Billboard hot 100 (79)
    -Most # 1 hits at Billboard hot 100 ( 18 )
    MOREOVER,Mariah Carey is ranked
    -8th sexiest woman among the 100 sexiest women in the world
    -Legs of goddess By Gillette Venus ( More beautiful legs in 2006 )
    -Healthy Smiling Superstar (more smiling female

  37. not enough says:

    sorry guys, but those facts are not even enough to prove that Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of all time.

    when are you gonna understand the fact that Madonna beats your Mariah Carey ????

    get real for god’s sake!!!

    now I know why this article is a total flop, because their facts are not enough, they tend to be subjective like a typical Mariah fan and the only ones to come round here are most of them the lambs, if not……many people would contradict you already Kissardkid

  38. Markus says:

    @Meredith

    Youre the IDIOT! How dare you say Mariah can sing VOGUE? Ugh! That’s disgusting and so cheap! Mariah’s gonna definitely destroy that legendary Fashion Song and turn into a Horror lame crap! I don’t even recall Mariah sing any song that goes with FASHION! and please Papa Don’t Preach? Come on you ARE a TOTAL FOOL! What? Mariah can sing with ease with this MAsterpiece? Oh My! You are trully deranged like your idol!

    Papa Dont Preach was written by Madonna based upon her life and struggle with her Dad. and that song paved way to Young teens who had conflicts on being pregnant at a young age…as I said Madonna sang this from experience, while Mariah sings about Vision of Love based on nothing. Papa Dont Preach is Far Far Far Far A masterpiece than any Mariah song! PERIOD!

  39. Markus says:

    @Jason

    It’s not the question if Madonna can belt any of Mariah’s songs cause Madonna is a Master when it comes to having her own styleMariah’s songs have been sung on American idol by AMATEUR singers. so what’s the crap about no one can sing any of Mariah\s songs? anyone can sing them, but on their own style, well like there’e any quality Mariah songs I know. Like what Mariah song did make a mark on fashion, religion, politics, sex?

  40. Markus says:

    MADONNA IS THE QUEEN OF POP
    MADONNA IS THE QUEEN OF MTV
    MADONNA IS MTV’S ARTIST OF THE MILLENNIUM
    MADONNA IS GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS’ MOST SUCCESSFUL FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST OF ALL TIME
    MADONNA IS IFPI BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST AS OF MARCH 2010
    MADONNA IS RANKED BY THE RIAA AS SECOND TO BARBRA STREISAND WHO HAS SOLD MORE ALBUMS IN THE USA AS OF MARCD 2010

    MADONNA HOLDS THE RECORD FOR THE BIGGEST SALES ON A GREATEST HITS ALBUM “THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION”

    MADONNA HOLDS THE RECORD FOR BIGGEST SALES ON AREMIX ALBUM “YOU CAN DANCE”

    MADONNA IS THE ONLY ARTIST IN BILLBOARD HISTORY TO HAVE THE MOST TOP TEN SONGS EVER! BEATING THE BEATLES AND WILL SOMEDAY SURPASS FURTHER ALL THE ARTISTS COMBINED INCLUDING MOO MOO CAREY!

    MADONNA HAS THE MOST NUMBER 1 SINGLES FOR A FEMALE ACT IN THE UK CHARTS (13)

    MADONNA HAS THE MOST NUMBER 1 ALBUMS IN THE UK CHARTS
    FOR A FEMALE ACT (10)

    MADONNA HAS THE MOST NUMBER 1 ALBUMS IN THE US BILLBOARD CHARTS (8)

    MADONNA IS RANKED TO MOO MOO CAREY WITH THE MOST NUMBER 1 SINGLES FOR A FEMALE ACT (12)

    MADONNA WON THE BEST ACTRESS AWARD FOR EVITA IN THE GOLDEN GLOBE AWARDS

    MADONNA WON TWO ACADEMY AWARDS FOR SOONER OR LATER AND YOU MUST LOVER ME

    MADONNA HAS SUNG A JAMES BOND THEME AND AN AUSTIN POWERS MOVIE THEME (SPY FILMS)

    MADONNA IS THE BIGGEST SELLING CONCERT ARTIST OF THEM ALL.

    MADONNA HAS AN ACCUMULATED 250 MILLION SALES WORLDWIDE, A FEAT THAT MARIAH CAN ONLY DREAM ESPECIALLY WITH THE HER RECORD BREAKING MIND BLOWING SH** FARTING IMPERFECT ANGEL ALBUM!

    MADONNACAN BE CHECKED ON ALL RECORDS THAT SHE OWNS MARIAH WHEN IT COMES TO SELLING MORE WORLDWIDE

    MARIAH IS ONLY LEVELLED WITH CHRISTINA AGUILERA.

    MADONNA IS THE QUEEN, MARIAH IS JUST A US SENSATION.

  41. Markus says:

    NOW TELL ME HOW MANY NUMBER 1 SINGLES DOES MARIAH HAVE IN THE UK CHARTS?

    NUFF SAID!

  42. Markus says:

    MADONNA IS ALSO THE SEXIEST MUSIC ARTIST (MALE/FEMALE) IN THE PLANET ACCORDING TO VH1, MTV AND ROLLING STONES.

    BEYONCE ADMITTED SHE DREAMED OF EVEN COMING CLOSE TO HAVE A MADONNA VIDEO LIKE HUMAN NATURE.

    FEMALE ARTISTS WHO ARE DRAWN TO THE MADONNA POWER
    LADY GAGA
    BEYONCE
    SHAKIRA
    GWEN STEFANI
    JENNIFER LOPEZ
    M.I.A.
    BRITNEY SPEARS
    CHRISTINA AGUILERA
    PINK
    MANDY MOORE
    THE SPICE GIRLS
    MARY J BLIGE
    MISSY ELLIOT
    JANET JACKSON
    AVRIL LAVIGNE
    MILEY CYRUS
    RIHANNA
    KE$HA
    LEONA LEWIS
    KYLIE MINOGUE
    JESSICA SIMPSON
    PARIS HILTON
    KELLY CLARKSON

    AND LIKE WHAT PATTI LABELLE SAID..”MADONNA IS AHEAD OF US ALL…”

  43. for markus says:

    You are right, Madonna beats Mariah in all the world…………..even in US Madonna sells out stadiums and Mariah…zero.

    That is a prove that she is not as big as their fans think and that nobody take scare of her

  44. MICHELLE says:

    Come on Markus,everybody know that Mariah is a better singer than all vocalists (Whitney,Aretha,Barbra,Toni,Christina,etc…).Well,Madonna is even not a vocalist.So,how she ever could be compared with Mariah at vocal field ?There’s no comparison between her and Mariah at singing skills and abilities.Vocally,only Whitney (at her best in 80’s and 90’s)can compare with Mariah at singing skills.However,Mariah beats Whitney. Mariah vocal runs are far more complex than Whitney’s.Vocally,any artist can do as much as Mariah . Mariah has much more to offer than any other singers vocally and artistrilly. However,Mariah’s songs got the capability to raise up great emotions,feelings and sensations like Love,Passion,Joy,Courage,Perseverance,Faith,etc… T. Field and research team discovered that Vision of Love has physiological and biochemical positive effects on depressed female adolescents.
    Beyonce said the first time she heard Vision Of Love by Mariah in 1990,she knew she wanted to be a singer.
    Wanya Morris (lead singer of Boyz II Men ) said that Vision Of Love is AMAZING & INCREDIBLE .Rihanna also said the same.
    Backstreet Boys,Justin Timberlake,Alicia Keys,etc….all claim that Mariah has an influence on their respective musics .
    Christina Aguilera said she would love to have a voice like Mariah.
    Mariah has influenced so many artists and revolutionized music as we know it.Mariah is the # 1 MUSICAL influence specially at America, Asia, Europe,Australia,etc…. ( therefore,the WHOLE WORLD ).So,Markus,just Bring arguments ( facts and achievements ) to show that Madonna is a better singer than MC,not insults or useless slogans.

  45. STACY says:

    To “ not enough”
    Who are you to say that my list of Mariah’s achievement is not enough ? A musical judge or expert ?
    You seem more like a retarded and mentally deficient by your stupid reply.Where did you see that I mentioned Mariah“ Best selling female artist of all times “ in my list of Mariah’s achiements ? Don’t you see that I specified “ actually SECOND best selling female artist“ ? You’re so Idiot with your ridiculous chorus “Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times” that you even not noticed that.And the list that I show is composed of huge and great achievements and records who are more than enough to prove a lot of things.And I don’t tried to show Mariah as Best selling Female Artist by this list. I show that she deserve the title of Female Artist Of All Times by her achievements.Don’t forget that achievement don’t only consist on sales,sales and sales.Do you think that only huge sales can cause the greatness of an artist ? I don’t think so.What about Talent ,Artistry,Quality and Refinement ? Achievement mean everything combined ( made with skill and amazing success).In this entry Female Artist Of All Times, the main and most important things are talent and artistry ,not sales.Sales refers more to Marketing and financial aspect,not to Art.The title of Female Artist Of All Times refers more to artistry,talent than to sales ( unlike the title of Best selling Female Artist who refers just to sales) .Here,QUALITY is more important than QUANTITY ( as the opposite was for Best Selling Female Artist ).Of course,quantity is one of the criterions,but it not the most important.Who among all the female artists deserve better the F A O A T title than Mariah Carey ? On points of artistry,voice, talent,Mariah Carey beat any other female artists,don’t deny it.Moreover,she’s the second best selling female artist of all times .She’s the second most successful female artist in the world by sales and achievements.Mariah combine all the assets better than anyone : Impressive Sales worldwide,Hit songs,Voice,Talent,Popularity,Awards,Records,Influence.Everything prove that Mariah wins.Therefore,Mariah Carey is the female artist of all times .
    Markus : your list is not clear at all cause you mix slogans with records and achievements .Moreover, you put some achievements severall times and just change their word formulation. If you want to challenge my assert,just bring arguments and facts proving clearly that the one you will present got better and more achievements than Mariah.Bring only facts and arguments,not insults or slogans.

  46. STEPHEN says:

    All Mariah haters are angry against lambs because their idol get only sale supremacy over Mariah,and nothing else.Mariah got all records & achievements in all musical fields .Only Whitney Houston can compete with Mariah at musical records

  47. JASON says:

    Madonna can compete with Mariah on sales and success,but about talent and artistry,she can’t !Only Whitney Houston ( before the destruction of her voice ) is worthy of Mariah’s rival on talent,singing skills and voice .There is no need to be their fans to recognize it.It’s obvious to anyone!So if you want to lose your time on lying about this,you will manage to lie only to yourself,but not to anyone else !

  48. MEREDITH says:

    Markus,don’t dare compare Vision Of Love with filth like Vogue and Papa Don’t Preach which encourage unbridled sexual behavior from teen girls and make them get pregnant before they get nubile.Vision Of Love is an incredible song who got constructive message,unlike Papa Don’t Preach .And here you talk about artistic inspiration,not performance.Which artists worldwide don’t got inspiration who ,sometimes come from their experiences in life? And which artist doesn’t a master when it comes to having his own style ???What made Madonna particulary original in all this ? Come on,all songsters and songstresses got this kind of originality.And on this point,Mariah is much better than your idol.However,we talked about singing skill and hability ,not of songs meaning.Mariah can sing all Madonna songs much more better than her.
    Markus tell me,did Madonna’s nickname is MOO MOO ?As a fan of her,you name her like she deserve. Obviously,you talk about your mother,when you said IDIOT and FOOL.In fact,I guess that she is ,as she bring a vermin like you into the world.I also guess that your father is a dog or a pig.Then,of what do you look like ? a human or an animal ?I’d like to know, cause you behave more like an animal than a human.

  49. FRANCOIS says:

    Markus,are you crazy ? How dare you compare this s**t Papa don’t preach to Mariah’s Masterpieces ( specially Vision Of Love )? Everyone who objective would admit that you’re really fool !!!Madonna has ,haven’t and will never have a song who could compare to Mariah’s.NEVER!! Everyone would laugh at you about this ridiculous delirium!!!Just clean up your ears !Moreover, unlike Papa don’t preach and other Madonna’s sh*ts ,Vision Of Love doesn’t incite young girls to waste their body on sexual experiences,but rather encourage them to look for the true sense of life.Madonna’s songs just encourage basic instincts ( that’s why Madonna is so successful with the sexual depraved and the degenerated).
    And in your stupid list( who got more foolish slogans than real achievements),is this your mother who named Moo Moo ?Or a nickname from you to your idol Madonna ?
    Madonna is just a queen for sexual depraved and degenerated people .Mariah is the Queen of Music overall.
    About Christina Aguilera,she’s a much better singer than Madonna.Madonna is just more successful than her and also get much more active years.Besides,Christina claimed that she’s influenced by Mariah’s music and would love to have a voice like Mariah.
    Madonna use her sex-symbol status to achieve her sales .That’s why her image get ahead of her music and her musical achievements are not proportional to her sales.She got more slogans than real accomplishments.

  50. Markus says:

    Madonna ist, even though, the best selling artist of all time.
    She has sold MORE records than Carey, and almost EVERY song was MORE successful WORLDWIDE than Carey ones.

    A number 1 in USA isn’t as important as being number 1 in over 20 other countries!

  51. MEREDITH says:

    Not necessary,when a number 1 in USA mean more sales than a number 1 in 20 European countries,Therefore,this number 1 in USA is more important than the other one in 20 European countries !!Moreover,Mariah got number 1 in many countries,not only USA.Europe got 30-40 states,USA got more than 50 states !! See?

  52. MOFF says:

    hhhhuuu next debate…

    Why isn’t this debate got deleted and put to the debate “MAdonna vs. Carey”??

    Why do we need 2 debates at all?

    This topic is about Mariah AND Madonna, but we already have one, so we actually don’t need THIS.

    BOSS whoever you are, delete this debate and we can discuss more in the other one.

    About Number 1:

    Yes, Mariah also has number ones in other countries.
    But did you compare them to the number of Madonnas number ones?
    Madonna has often over 10 while Mariah has only 2 or 3.

    And (USA) : 12 is not as far behind as 18 number 1s.

  53. Mimi I (L) U says:

    Some guys there are talking that Mariah has no personal inclination on her songs, where do you think she gets the inspiration, Hero is considered a classic of Music, the song sunflowers was written for her Dad, and Can’t take that away is considered a hymn for overcoming struggles, moreover the song close my eyes is a close personal lyric containig beautiful secrets, Vision of Love is a Song for God, just pay attention, Through the rain has recieved 2 standing ovations on music awards, and the medley of fly like a bird and We belong together for the Grammys has been considered Magical and overwhelming, everybody in the place has chills… Modanna is famous for public masturbation and coney boobs, indeed she has sold more record world wide,but why do Madonna fans keep on braggin about UK singles, whilst USA Billboards is the most important music market… Madonna is just an outgoing performer, who revolutionized the world. Mariah Carey revolutionized the music and has awards that nobody will have untill 1000 years… no way Madonna will get her hands on it, if Madonna sold more record than Mimi last millenium how come Mariah has the award… don’t say it was fixed cause we know it wasn’t. Her marriage with Mottola didn’t make her famous, shae had 7 #1 singles before she married Mottola,and actually the album post-marriage (Butterfly) is one of Mimi’s most beloved albums and one of the most remembered albums of last decade, while Madonna was singing like a virgin, yeah right that’s all she is “like a virgin”. Mariah Carey was ranked as the voice of the MTV generation, not Madonna, Mimi still charts after 20 years on the top 10, where is Mandonna… Nowhere to be seen. Nice try but Mimi makes classy music, and she doesn’t need to stick her finger up her hooch to get fans, she has to sing and the world follows, even after her mental breakdown, and the readical voice change, she still has the skill to reach note that Mandonna not even with a plastic whistle can, or gettin a new st of lungs and vocal chords.

  54. MOFF says:

    For Mimi l (L) U:

    Mimi, we all know that Mariah has the better voice and yeah, her songs also have got the personal inclination.

    But about the Millennium Award: Mariah has sold more records than her in 90s. Mimi, what about the 2000s? Can you tell me?
    Mimi, how many CDs has Madonna sold?
    How many Grammys did she win?
    And who is citated as the worlds most successful female singer according to the Guinness Book?

    OK. Mariah has had more Chart success in the USA than Madonna. 18 Number ones and 27 or 28 Top ten songs.
    Madonna has 37 Top Ten hits and 12 number ones.

    But Mimi, Can you tell me how many number ones and top ten hits Madonna has in the UK, Germany, Brazil, France, Italy, Spain, Austratralia, Canada, New Zealand?
    Mimi, You don’t need to tell me that because it was ironic
    I just wanted to say that Madonna is the most successful female singer WORLDWIDE.
    Of course the whole world knows that Mariah has her 18 number ones, and of course Mariah has also number ones and top tens in many many other countries worldwide, but if you compare them to Madonna’s…

    We know – sure – that Madonna has done her Masturbation and has sung “Like a virgin”. But did you watch Madonna’s other performances?

    People (who don’t like her) always talk about Madonna’s weekness or embarrassment.
    But she is also a great Live perfomer and she also can make her audience astonished or whatever.

    Madonna, AND Mariah are great Artists and I don’t deny it.

    BUT: Madonna is the most successful female singer we have on earth!

  55. STACY says:

    Moff,the theme of this entry is “Mariah Carey- Female Artist Of All Times” not “Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times”.Don’t confound the both, Madonna doesn’t mentioned in this entry.Here the most important is THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND RECORDS,not only SALES.Everything prove that Mariah Carey is THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES. Don’t claim to delete this entry because it’s Mariah who got this title,not Madonna.You must recognize that Madonna can’t get all musical titles.Madonna get the title of BEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES,satisfy you from that and recognize that Mariah Carey get the title of THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES ,since she deserve it.Moreover,you often claim that you don’t hate Mariah,so don’t behave like Mariah Carey’s haters.
    About Number 1:
    Meredith just show that number ones in many countries worldwide doesn’t mean more success at sales than number one at US alone.Mariah’s best selling singles sold better than Madonna’s although Madonna’s singles reached # 1 status in more countries than Mariah’s.Mariah got two Singles in the top 10 best selling singles of all times,Madonna got zero.

  56. MOFF says:

    oh sorry for confounding both themes.

    Madonna is the best selling.
    But I think if we look to all her archievements – she is also the female artist of all time-

    STACY?
    Can you tell me the 2 best selling singles of Mariah which are in the top 10 ALL TIME?

    Sorry but that sounds very very weird!!

  57. STACY says:

    Yes, I can.They are :All I want For Christmas is You and We Belong Together ( they are in the top 3 best selling singles by female artists).And Mariah is the Female Artist of All Times,not Madonna !Impressive sales are not enough to determin all the merits of an artist! there is Talent,Voice,Revolution,Awards,Influence ( musical of course),etc…Mariah combine all these assets much better than Madonna ! Therefore,Mariah Carey is the FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES !!!

  58. MOFF says:

    ok ok Stacy, its good to have a person who don’t insult others. =)

    My thought was the best selling single (of a female artist) was I will always love you by Whitney Houston
    – My heart will go on – Celine Dion
    – Hips don’t lie sold very well
    – Believe – Cher

    All I want for Christmas is you has sold so much because it appears every year, right?

    Stacy, your proof?

  59. STACY says:

    Moff, You ask for sources ?!! Although I know some reliable sources which claim it,for me and for debates at entries,proof is by far most important than sources.So I’ll rather give you the proof by the facts ( which are much more reliable than any source cause sources can be subjective,but facts are facts ! ).
    First : in December 1994,AIWFCIY sold 5 million worldwide ( while the album Merry Christmas sold 8 million in December 1994 ).Moreover,the sales of AIWFCIY continue worldwide since 1994 till December 2009 ( digital-downloading sales and physique sales ) ! In 1995,1996 1997 ( 1 million ),1998,1999,2000 ( 1,3 million ),2001,2002,2003,2004 ( 1 million ),2005, ( 1 million ) 2006,2007,2008,2009 ( 2 million ) and I’m sure that they’ll continue to sell the next December. You see ? AIWFCIY sold more than 11 million .And We Belong Together sold more than 9 million copies worldwide ( in which 5 million in USA ).Don’t forget that it’s the most successful song in all Billboard history ( the greatest music market worldwide ). what proof did you give to show Hips don’t lies and My heart will go on sold better than All I want for Christmas is you ? For example,till December 2000,My Heart Will Go On was certified just Gold in USA .Can you explain it ? And it wasn’t in the Japanese singles chart ( just To Love You More did ).As we know,USA and Japan are the greatest music markets in the world .The only great market in which MHWGO sold good is Europe ( which is the third greatest music market of the world ).So ,can you give me some detailed informations ?
    Anyway,the theme of this entry is Female Artist Of All times,not best selling female artist.And we already know that Mariah is the second Best Selling Female Artist Of All times.Moreover,Mariah Carey is The FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES .

  60. MOFF says:

    Stacy, why did AIWFCIU only get 2x platinum in USA?
    Stacy, I know that it is one of the best selling songs of a female artist (and one of the best selling songs) but My heart will go on and I will always love you have sold more, its citated everywhere. I really want to know the certfications of AIWFCIY.

    And we belong together:

    you think it has sold 9 million copies?

    9? just imagine that number, it is certificated 1x Platinum in the USA…

    The sales are too high, we know that

    but – you already said it – the theme is Female artist of all times

  61. STACY says:

    Moff,you’re wrong. Today, AIWFCIY is certificied 4 x platinum in USA ! And its also the best selling single ever in Japan ! AIWFCIY sold at least 11 million worldwide ,it’s a fact ! You say 2 x platinum for USA,but you lied ! And We Belong Together is certified 3 X platinum in USA,not 1 ! Its totalize more than 9 million units worldwide .And there is also Without You and I Know What You Want which sold 9 million worldwide each . Anyway ,these four singles sold more than any Madonna’s singles.You can’t deny it ! Let me remind you that Madonna’s Vogue is the first platinum single of Madonna in US ! Madonna’s best selling single is Hung Up and it sold 7 million worldwide.Don’t discuss,we know it.

  62. MOFF says:

    Hahaha stacy, what did I say about calling somebody a liar?
    I look at different sources and just when I put something here and you can’t agree, you shouldn’t call me a liar, this by the way…

    Ok Stacy, you say that these Singles of Mariah have all sold over 6, 7 million copies.

    How do you know that “Hung Up” has just sold 7 million worldwide? I didn’t know that before.

    All figures of these songs are massively too high.

    Look at that: I know that this is NOT official, but it seems circa right,

    mariahjournal.com/infozone/charts/singles/worldwide/index.shtml

    flopofthepops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277

  63. STACY says:

    Moff,your sources are wrong ! There are sources who claim the opposite of what your’s say ! And sources are not important,they claim everything,anything. Some claim a thing,some else calim other things ! Even Guinness make mistakes sometimes,it’s prove that the most important for finding truth is fact .Anyway,AIWFCIY sold 11 million copies worldwide,We Belong Together 9 million,Without You 7,6 million and Hung Up 7 million.And we have to remember that this entry is FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES.MARIAH IS THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALl TIMES,this is the most important.And she’s also the second best selling female artist of all times. I hope that Someday,the truth will be obvious to everyone.

  64. MOFF says:

    Stacy =)

    did you calculate all sales and certifications of a song and put them together?
    Or did you look them up?

  65. bottomline says:

    Madonna has her fan and yes, she does her thing. But me personally, I don’t take any of her songs seriously.
    Meaning, she’s just the “entertainment”
    MARIAH CAREY on the other hand, That’s TALENT!!!

    But hey, to each their own-

    BTW, What’s up with Madonna’s grill these days?? She looks nuts on stage- sorta like a dancing goblin-

  66. samanticx says:

    LOL at crazed, delusional lambs.

    I know that YOU know that even as Mariah hasn’t even outsold Madonna in the US where she got her dubious payola-driven “18 #1s”, then HOW could she possibly have outsold Madonna in the rest of the world where virtually NOBODY cares about her??! (well, maybe a bit of Japan LOL)

    Europe? Madonna
    Latin America? Madonna
    Aggregate Asia? Madonna
    Australasia?
    AMERICA? Madonna

    Heck, ANTARTICA? Madonna!

    hahaha

    The latest Guinness Book of World Records issue CLEARLY states that Madonna IS the bestselling female artist of all time– incontrovertible proof and source!

    And as to talent? Please. Mariah may have HAD (read: HAD) better technical voice but many say that all she has done is sing AT you and not TO you– meaning, she’s a soulless singer merely interested in showing stupid vocal acrobatics than really singing. Madonna’s may be a technically weak voice but hers is almost matchless in affective power as compared to modern day divas.

    As to cultural impact, significance, historical and current relevance?? NO CONTEST. Mariah is NOWHERE in Madonna’s stratospheric league.. a league populated only by the greatest such as Madonna herself and the Beatles, Elvis, and perhaps, MJ. Mariah is simply NOT worthy. And Madonna is still very much HOT. Gaga the great copycat (who’s having her field day now) virtually behaves as if she’s Madonna! LOL

    btw.. Mariah is now a Walmart performer, no? hahaha

  67. samanticx says:

    btw I might add re talent…

    Has Mariah ever approached to within miles the performing abilities of Madonna? Heck no! Not even by a light year! Mariah is simply a DUD onstage.

    They’re both entertainers by profession and it seems entertaining is the least of Mariah’s abilities… ‘though she does entertain with her 4th grade offstage antics.. and onstage, she does entertain by the hilarity of her “performances” hahaha..

  68. Whoredonna Stinks says:

    Whoredonan is a flopped ugly cu**. That piece of sh** ranked #58 on Billboard’s Artists of the Decade (2000s). Carey is not a faded star like DogDonna. She’s #12 in that list.

  69. Whoredonna Stinks says:

    Whoredonna latest album Sticky and Sweet sold 0.4 million around the world. HUGE FLOP. None of Carey’s albums are such a flop like that one. Even The Ballads (released by her former label Sony Music) is almost platinum in the UK (0.3 million shipped in the UK alone). LOL. Whoredonna = faded whore-star

  70. samanticx says:

    That’s why lambs ALWAYS bungle their arguments and “facts”– they’re CONFUSED! hahaha

    The better comparison for Carey’s Ballads, since it’s a COMPILATION, is M’s Celebration. And even without much promo Celebration manages way over 1.5 million units sold– in 2010 at that when music sales are overall waay down– while Ballads sold.. what, LESS than a quarter of a million, and sold in 2008! And Mariah was all over promoting (unfortunately, which entailed her “performing” LOL).. and Ballads was #1 in what, ZERO number of countries while Celebration was #1 in some! hahaha

    FAIL.

    btw.. Sticky and Sweet is NOT an album but a Concert DVD!..

    Lambs are just… hahaha!

    And whatsup with this Mariah-lambs co-dependent OBSESSION with the Billboard charts??

    Face it, Billboard itself declared Madonna the Top 2 BB artist of all time, behind only the Beatles!

    So THERE.

    Hahaha

  71. samanticx says:

    Oops.. gotta correct the typo.. Celebration was released in 2009! hahaha

  72. TRAMPdonna says:

    TRAMPdonna ranked #58 on Billboard’s Artists of the Decade. Let alone your “#2”. She’s a flopped pig, indeed. Carey is #12. She is not a faded star like CU**donna who hasn’t a #1 since 2001. Face it. Is that true that 95% of Whoredonna’s fanbase is composed by gays and lesbians? She’s really a dirty tramp. She’s ugly as fu** and disgusting. Sticky and Sweet sold 0.4 million. I repeat: Careys hasn’t any album with that pathetic amount. Whoredonna is over. She’s only popular in some pathetic European microstates where sales are LOOOOOOOOOOOW. So she can score her massive #1s there. FLOP!

    And Whoredonna is a **** while Mariah is a true woman. Who gives a fu**?

    Some interesting YouTube channel:
    youtube.com/user/MANdonnaTransvestite

    The animal was really exposed. Love it.

    Whoredonna = flopped pig

  73. TRAMPdonna says:

    Sticky and Sweet is a CD, is not a DVD only edition you fu**ing liar. ANd you know what? Is a fu**ing pathetic flop, like Whoredonna herself. LOL.

  74. TRAMPdonna says:

    Mariah’s lambs as you call them have a good obsession: charts and success. CU**donna’s gay fans have the obsession of sucking. Am I right? I don’t blame you, Gaydonna fans. I understand, because your slut-idol is a good teacher. She’s a vulgar sucker too.

  75. samanticx says:

    OMG.. Lambs are so obsessed with Billboard charts and yet don’t know that Billboard released their All Time Hot 100 Top Artists?? hahaha is there selective amnesia with you?? hahaha

    billboard.com/specials/hot100/charts/top100-artists-20.shtml

    Yup.. that’s for the Hot 100 and in case you want Top 200 Albums, well.. Madonna is 2nd only to Streisand among female artists so don’t go there! hahaha

    And what’s up with the name-calling? Well, that’s lambs for you. You and your lamb mama are so obsessed with Billboard because you have NOTHING going on in the GLOBAL charts and yet even in Billboard you still lose! hahaha.. and please, Mariah gets on the charts with “#1” songs NO ONE remembers nor cares about just because of FRAUD: payola and repression tactics. SHAMEFULLY SHAMELESS! Ugh.

    And as to Sticky and Sweet, it was mainly a CONCERT DVD with an additional CD of a few of the SAME performance. It was not a release of NEW material and, more importantly, it wasn’t a new STUDIO ALBUM like MOAIA which septic TANKED around the world, including the US! MOAIA was SOUNDLY beaten to 3rd in the BB charts by the Great Streisand and Paramore! and it hasn’t even gone 500k yet in the US its main market, so how much less in the rest of the world! hahaha Hard Candy, Madonna’s last studio album at least sold way over 3.5 million!

    Sticky and Sweet WASN’T even once promoted! And Mariah was on idol, Oprah, and all the shows she can desperately get into, including the MJ funeral disaster performance and yet…

    Lambs FAIL again! hahahah

  76. samanticx says:

    Oh, good news to Lambs!!!

    Mariah is, phew! INCLUDED in the midyear Pollstar midyear list of the Top Tours for 2010! Her tour grossed a STAGGERING $9.1 million for 23 shows! It includes such phenomenal sales as selling over 5,000 tickets to a venue that can actually accommodate 20,000+ people but which for her show the capacity is reduced to less than half that.. with attendance still half of the half! LOL

    btw.. your “Trampdonna” had a SINGLE show that grossed, uhm, over $12 million!

    At least, Mariah beats “Star Wars: In Concert” !!

    Hahahaha!

  77. MOFF says:

    Trampdonna, you are NOTHING, You’re a shame for the whole world and your arguments are so silly!

    First of all: I’ve never mentioned Mariah as a pig or whatever – I prefer Madonna but I DO NOT insult other artists because I don’t like them.
    YOU Want to fight with us?

    Madonna fans know that (and much more):

    Mariah is a great artist
    Mariah is the best female vocalist of the planet
    Mariah has 18 number ones in the USA (btw, rumour: payola!)
    Mariah has sold many many albums 180- over 200 million + over 60 million singles or more.
    Mariah is one of the most successful female artists and one of the most ever,
    her main success is in the USA and Japan.

    Great archievements!

    Madonna:

    Best selling female artist of the world and overall, she’s behind MJ, Beatles, Elvis.
    Most number ones worldwide (United world charts)
    Songs that hit number one in 45 countries, record! (hung up)
    Best or second best selling female artist in lots of other countries
    (Germany, Canada, USA, Brazil, Japan, Australia, Italy, UK, ……)
    best selling female artist of singles, best selling female artist of albums.
    Most number ones in UK (How many does Mariah have?)

    Since 2001 Madonna hasn’t got any number one in the US. But Mariah! Yeah.. but outside?
    What is the global outlook for Carey?

    Confessions on a dancefloor – The imancipation of mimi
    same sales

    Hard candy
    over 3,7 million (by the end of 2008)

    e= MC2 2,5 (end of 2008)

    Celebration
    1,5 million (end of 2009)

    Memoirs of an imperfect angel
    0,6- 0,8 (end of 2009)

    The ballads (lot of promotion)
    0,5 (since 2009)

    Sticky and sweet Tour (without promotion)
    0,45 (since March 2010!)

    “Trampdonna” do you see the difference?

    I have arguments and explanations and I’m NOT insulting any of these singers!

    I respect Mariah, Madonna, too and don’t insult them or call them stupid names like YOU DO!

    TRampdonna, GET OUT OF HERE and talk to yourself!

  78. NUMBER ONE says:

    I remember the first time I heard Vision of Love from Mariah Carey in 1990,everyone was so astonish! Everybody asked,Who is it ????!!! What an exceptional and beautiful voice! When I listen Emotions in 1991,I was so surprised cause I wasn’t imagine that human voice could reach this level of range and power.It’s was at the same time amazing, magnifificent and so incredible! Since this time, Mariah became my favorite singer and I listen her songs everyday. Mariah Carey songs send me to heavens and make me feel so good.What we could imagine better than Hero,Vision of love, Always be my baby or Without you ? Mariah Carey is really the best singer of all times,all her songs prove it.Moreover,she’s so talentuous, succesfull, beautiful and sexy.She combine beauty,talent ,grace and sexyness perfectly.No one wasn’t, ain’t and will never be able to sing her songs ( Make it happen, Love takes times, All in your Mind, You’re so cold, Forever, Can’t Let go,Dreamlover,Anytime you need a friend,Underneath the Stars,Fantasy,Butterfly,Whenever you call, Bliss, Against all odds,Loverboy,Fourth Of July,My saving Grace, Fly Like a bird, Through the rain,I want to know what love is, Migrate,If it’s over , Mine again,I’ll be lovin’you long time,We belong together,All I want for Christmas is You, etc… ).Till today,Mariah still technically and artistically the best singer ever,besides her voice also still unbeatable.Whatever say haters,Mariah is a living legend ,we can’t deny it,we see it ,music got no secret for Mariah. She’s a true Music Icon and she influence so many artists… Sometimes I ask myself what would be Music worldwide without Mariah Carey ‘s contribution ? Mariah Carey is the best,she blow away Whitney Houston,Barbra Streisand,Celine Dion, Aretha Franklin,Toni Braxton, Madonna (even thought Madonna is more successful than her and sold slightly more records ,Mariah blow away Madonna at achievements,influence,talent & quality,and mark on Music Pop) etc…,No doubt,Mariah’s contribution in music is huge.The most obvious is her revolution of Pop music by her 1995 release Fantasy remix with the rapper Old Dirsty Bastard.She continue to amaze people by her phenomenal voice and her incredible talent on singing all musical genres. Mariah is a legendary songstress & musician ( expressed not only by just huge sales or chart success,but always by the quality of her art and her musical creativity ).The greatness of artists doesn’t measure only by huge sales,but also by the quality of their work .Often,quality is more important than quantity ! Mariah Carey still give voice to our age and she make me feel so proud and so higher !!! Although Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times,Mariah Carey is just second to Madonna at sales.Moreover,Mariah Carey is The Best Singer Of All Times and The Female Artist of All Times.

  79. ADRIANO says:

    Yeah! Mariah is so unique! Her talent is incomparable.She smile so great and she’s so beautiful and sexy. She look like a supermodel.Her voice release so much magnetism when she sing ballads and soul,her songs are so deep & emotional that they can touch our soul and make us cry by emotions.Sometimes,my sister cry by emotions when she listen Mariah’s songs like Hero,Vison of Love,Can’t let go,forever,Whenever you call,Open arms,Music Box,Without you,Never too far,Mine again,I want to know what love is,Underneath the star,Through the rain,Lookin’ in,etc… That happen to me too sometimes… It’s very rarely than a Pop artist is able to awake such as emotions inside people. Mariah Carey is really The Best Singer On Earth Of All Times.

  80. TRAMPdonna says:

    FLOPdonna has scored huge flops in the USA since 2005:

    “Sorry, CU**donna” -(#58)- 2006
    “Get Together, CU**donna” -(#106)- 2006
    “Jump, CU**donna” -(#105)- 2006
    “Hey SH**donna” -(didn’t chart)- 2007
    “Give It 2 SH**donna” (#57)- 2008
    “Miles Away From SH**donna” (didn’t chart)- 2008
    “Pigs’ Celebration” (#71)- 2009
    “Porn Revolver” (didn’t chart)- 2010

    RIP. She’s over. Her last solo top 10 hit in America was in 2005. Since then, this whore release 9 more singles (only one of them, the collaboration with Justin Timberlake was a hit thanks to him). Her last #1 was in 2001. Flop. We are in 2010. LMFAO.

    Whoredonna’s Sticky and Sweet U.S. Billboard 200 chart-run: 10-58-107-146-OUT

    Epic failure.

    Whoredonna ranked #58 on Billboard’s Artists of the Decade, while Carey was #12. Forget about the all-time thing. We’re living right now, LOL.

    Whoredonna is a pathetic cu** who can’t sell anymore.

    Legends with the Most #1 Songs Ever (Billboard):
    Beatles (20)
    Mariah Carey (18)
    Elvis Presley (17)
    Michael Jackson (13)

    Where is the jealous co**
    sucker “Madonna”?

    Billboard Brazil’s Hot 100 longest-running chart toppers ever:

    1. Mariah Carey – I Want to Know What Love Is (6 consecutive months)
    2. Beyoncé – Halo

    Billboard’s Songs of the Decade (2000s) *based on chart performance*

    1. Mariah Carey – We Belong Together
    2. Usher – Yeah
    3. Flo Rida – Low
    4. Nickelback – How You Remind Me
    5. Black Eyed Peas – I Gotta Feeling
    6. Alicia Keys – No One
    7. Black Eyed Peas – Boom Boom Pow
    8. Mario – Let Me Love You
    9. Kanye West – Gold Digger
    10. Timbaland – Apologize

    U.S. Nielsen SoundScan Top-selling Legends, 1991 – 2010:

    1. Garth Brooks (best selling solo and male act)
    2. Beatles (best selling group act)
    3. Mariah Carey (best selling female act)

    Best-selling international singles in Japan ever:

    1. David Boone – Beautiful Day
    2. Mariah Carey – All I Want for Christmas Is You

    Pig got exposed.

  81. TRAMPdonna says:

    No wonder why all this hate around this fu**ing ugly old whore:

    youtube.com/user/COWdonnaSucks

    Her stans are fu**ing homosexuals LOL. No wonder about all the hate.

  82. MOFF says:

    Trampdonna, I won’t insult you know because I know others ways.. you are silly and unintelligent and use insulting comments tp prove who Mariah Carey is – but we know that.
    In your last comments you usually put in where Madonna is a huge flop or was. But what would you say if I say to you:
    Why did Mariah cancel her concerts? … I don’t know..
    Sorry but, how many number ones has Mariah compared to Madonna in all other countries?

    UK: 13, USA: 12
    = 25

    Mariah :
    UK: 1 USA: 18
    = 19

    and if we continue with other nations, I think you’ll know what happen..
    MMhh did Mariah get a Guinness World Record citation?
    Let me guess, NO
    Yeah, Madonna never got a World music award, but we all know why.

    MMhh Who has the most successful tour by a solo artist in history?
    And who cancelled tours…?

    Trampdonna,
    you put these Madonna songs in:

    Sorry,(#58)- 2006
    Get Together(#106)- 2006
    Jump, 2006
    Hey you 2007
    Give It 2 me 2008
    Miles Away 2008
    Celebration” (#71)- 2009
    Revolver” 2010

    Revovler – yeah- wasn’t really successful worldwide. Same as Hey You. All others reached some top ten positions
    Sorry was even number one in the united world charts and went to number one in the UK, Japan, Italy and US Club charts. It was top ten in: Switzerland, France, Canada, Australia and Austria and many other countries.

    *Get together was top ten (7) in the UK, top ten in Italy (2) and Canada (4), even number one in US. Club charts.

    * Jump was number one in Italy, top ten in UK, 7 in Canada and 1 in US club charts.
    * Give it 2 me was top ten in many other countries e.g. UK, Germany, Australia, Austria, Italy, France.
    *Celebration was a worldwide top ten hit (not in US. for sure, like every song since 2000)

    NOW TO MARIAH CAREY TRAMPDONNA:

    oh sorry, all of her songs like I’ll be loving you long time, bye bye, say something, through the rain, anytime you need a friend, even against all odds, didn’t even chart in lots of countries.

    For Madonna its not a good sign to place songs under the top 20!

    But for (now I insult Mariah sorry, I don’t mean it)
    FOR PIGRIAH its normal and order of the day to place songs anywhere in the top 100 or songs can’t even get a place in the Charts!

    I respect Mariah, like many of her songs, And I know she is a great artist, but silly Trampdonna, you are nothing, you don’t know anything of the music business and like I said : Get out of here;

    Now the last post (77.) from me to you:

    Trampdonna, you are NOTHING, You’re a shame for the whole world and your arguments are so silly!

    First of all: I’ve never mentioned Mariah as a pig or whatever – I prefer Madonna but I DO NOT insult other artists because I don’t like them.
    YOU Want to fight with us?

    Madonna fans know that (and much more):

    Mariah is a great artist
    Mariah is the best female vocalist of the planet
    Mariah has 18 number ones in the USA (BTW, rumor: payola!)
    Mariah has sold many many albums 180- over 200 million + over 60 million singles or more.
    Mariah is one of the most successful female artists and one of the most ever,
    her main success is in the USA and Japan.

    Great achievements!

    Madonna:

    Best selling female artist of the world and overall, she’s behind MJ, Beatles, Elvis.
    Most number ones worldwide (United world charts)
    Songs that hit number one in 45 countries, record! (hung up)
    Best or second best selling female artist in lots of other countries
    (Germany, Canada, USA, Brazil, Japan, Australia, Italy, UK, ……)
    best selling female artist of singles, best selling female artist of albums.
    Most number ones in UK (How many does Mariah have?)

    Since 2001 Madonna hasn’t got any number one in the US. But Mariah! Yeah.. but outside?
    What is the global outlook for Carey?

    Confessions on a Dancefloor – The Emancipation of Mimi
    same sales

    Hard candy
    over 3,7 million (by the end of 2008)

    e= MC2 2,5 (end of 2008)

    Celebration
    1,5 million (end of 2009)

    Memoirs of an imperfect angel
    0,6- 0,8 (end of 2009)

    The ballads (lot of promotion)
    0,5 (since 2009)

    Sticky and sweet Tour (without promotion)
    0,45 (since March 2010!)

    “Trampdonna” do you see the difference?

    I have arguments and explanations and I’m NOT insulting any of these singers!

    I respect Mariah, Madonna, too and don’t insult them or call them stupid names like YOU DO!

    Trampdonna, GET OUT OF HERE and talk to yourself!

    I hope you realize the truth.

  83. PIGdonna Ciccone says:

    And The Emancipation of Mimi sold 10 million copies, while COnfessions on a Whore Floor sold 7.5 million. OWNED by 2.5 million. LOL. Only Queen Mariah could do that.

    PIGdonna = flop

  84. PIGdonna Ciccone says:

    MOFF you’re a liar, aying that flopped cow’s album Confession on a Whore Floor sold the same amount as Emancipation of Mimi. Confessions on a Whore Floor was such a flop in America. LOL. It even went platinum? I doubt it. She’s so over. Poor animal.

  85. PIGdonna Ciccone says:

    To MOFF:

    FLOPdonna has scored huge flops in the USA since 2005:

    “Sorry, CU**donna” -(#58)- 2006
    “Get Together, CU**donna” -(#106)- 2006
    “Jump, CU**donna” -(#105)- 2006
    “Hey SH**donna” -(didn’t chart)- 2007
    “Give It 2 SH**donna” (#57)- 2008
    “Miles Away From SH**donna” (didn’t chart)- 2008
    “Pigs’ Celebration” (#71)- 2009
    “Porn Revolver” (didn’t chart)- 2010

    RIP. She’s over. Her last solo top 10 hit in America was in 2005. Since then, this whore release 9 more singles (only one of them, the collaboration with Justin Timberlake was a hit thanks to him). Her last #1 was in 2001. Flop. We are in 2010. LMFAO.

    Whoredonna’s Sticky and Sweet U.S. Billboard 200 chart-run: 10-58-107-146-OUT

    Epic failure.

    Whoredonna ranked #58 on Billboard’s Artists of the Decade, while Carey was #12. Forget about the all-time thing. We’re living right now, LOL.

    Whoredonna is a pathetic cu** who can’t sell anymore.

    Legends with the Most #1 Songs Ever (Billboard):
    Beatles (20)
    Mariah Carey (18)
    Elvis Presley (17)
    Michael Jackson (13)

    Where is the jealous co**
    sucker “Madonna”?

    Billboard Brazil’s Hot 100 longest-running chart toppers ever:

    1. Mariah Carey – I Want to Know What Love Is (6 consecutive months)
    2. Beyoncé – Halo

    Billboard’s Songs of the Decade (2000s) *based on chart performance*

    1. Mariah Carey – We Belong Together
    2. Usher – Yeah
    3. Flo Rida – Low
    4. Nickelback – How You Remind Me
    5. Black Eyed Peas – I Gotta Feeling
    6. Alicia Keys – No One
    7. Black Eyed Peas – Boom Boom Pow
    8. Mario – Let Me Love You
    9. Kanye West – Gold Digger
    10. Timbaland – Apologize

    U.S. Nielsen SoundScan Top-selling Legends, 1991 – 2010:

    1. Garth Brooks (best selling solo and male act)
    2. Beatles (best selling group act)
    3. Mariah Carey (best selling female act)

    Best-selling international singles in Japan ever:

    1. David Boone – Beautiful Day
    2. Mariah Carey – All I Want for Christmas Is You

    END OF STORY. TRAMPdonna is flop. Next.

  86. MOFF says:

    Trampdonna, I won’t insult you know because I know others ways.. you are silly and unintelligent and use insulting comments tp prove who Mariah Carey is – but we know that.
    In your last comments you usually put in where Madonna is a huge flop or was. But what would you say if I say to you:
    Why did Mariah cancel her concerts? … I don’t know..
    Sorry but, how many number ones has Mariah compared to Madonna in all other countries?

    UK: 13, USA: 12
    = 25

    Mariah :
    UK: 1 USA: 18
    = 19

    and if we continue with other nations, I think you’ll know what happen..
    MMhh did Mariah get a Guinness World Record citation?
    Let me guess, NO
    Yeah, Madonna never got a World music award, but we all know why.

    MMhh Who has the most successful tour by a solo artist in history?
    And who cancelled tours…?

    Trampdonna,
    you put these Madonna songs in:

    Sorry,(#58)- 2006
    Get Together(#106)- 2006
    Jump, 2006
    Hey you 2007
    Give It 2 me 2008
    Miles Away 2008
    Celebration” (#71)- 2009
    Revolver” 2010

    Revolver – yeah- wasn’t really successful worldwide. Same as Hey You. All others reached some top ten positions
    Sorry was even number one in the united world charts and went to number one in the UK, Japan, Italy and US Club charts. It was top ten in: Switzerland, France, Canada, Australia and Austria and many other countries.

    *Get togehter was top ten (7) in the UK, top ten in Italy (2) and Canada (4), even number one in US. Clubcharts.

    * Jump was number one in Italy, top ten in UK, 7 in Canada and 1 in US club charts.
    * Give it 2 me was top ten in many other countries e.g. UK, Germany, Australia, Austria, Italy, France.
    *Celebration was a worldwide top ten hit (not in US. for sure, like every song since 2000)

    NOW TO MARIAH CAREY TRAMPDONNA:

    oh sorry, all of her songs like I’ll be loving you long time, bye bye, say something, through the rain, anytime you need a friend, even against all odds, didn’t even chart in lots of countries.

    For Madonna its not a good sign to place songs under the top 20!

    But for (now I insult Mariah sorry, I don’t mean it)
    FOR PIGRIAH its normal and order of the day to place songs anywhere in the top 100 or songs can’t even get a place in the Charts!

    I respect Mariah, like many of her songs, And I know she is a great artist, but silly Trampdonna, you are nothing, you don’t know anything of the music business and like I said : Get out of here;

    Now the last post (77.) from me to you:

    Trampdonna, you are NOTHING, You’re a shame for the whole world and your arguments are so silly!

    First of all: I’ve never mentioned Mariah as a pig or whatever – I prefer Madonna but I DO NOT insult other artists because I don’t like them.
    YOU Want to fight with us?

    Madonna fans know that (and much more):

    Mariah is a great artist
    Mariah is the best female vocalist of the planet
    Mariah has 18 number ones in the USA (BTW, rumor: payola!)
    Mariah has sold many many albums 180- over 200 million + over 60 million singles or more.
    Mariah is one of the most successful female artists and one of the most ever,
    her main success is in the USA and Japan.

    Great achievements!

    Madonna:

    Best selling female artist of the world and overall, she’s behind MJ, Beatles, Elvis.
    Most number ones worldwide (United world charts)
    Songs that hit number one in 45 countries, record! (hung up)
    Best or second best selling female artist in lots of other countries
    (Germany, Canada, USA, Brazil, Japan, Australia, Italy, UK, ……)
    best selling female artist of singles, best selling female artist of albums.
    Most number ones in UK (How many does Mariah have?)

    Since 2001 Madonna hasn’t got any number one in the US. But Mariah! Yeah.. but outside?
    What is the global outlook for Carey?

    Confessions on a Dancefloor – The Emancipation of Mimi
    same sales

    Hard candy
    over 3,7 million (by the end of 2008)

    e= MC2 2,5 (end of 2008)

    Celebration
    1,5 million (end of 2009)

    Memoirs of an imperfect angel
    0,6- 0,8 (end of 2009)

    The ballads (lot of promotion)
    0,5 (since 2009)

    Sticky and sweet Tour (without promotion)
    0,45 (since March 2010!)

    “Trampdonna” do you see the difference?

    I have arguments and explanations and I’m NOT insulting any of these singers!

    I respect Mariah, Madonna, too and don’t insult them or call them stupid names like YOU DO!

    TRampdonna, GET OUT OF HERE and talk to yourself!

    I hope you realize the truth.

    PIGDONNA CICCONE, why has Madonna sold more records than Carey?
    Why hasn sold E=MC 2 more than hard candy?
    Why only 2,5?
    what about Memoirs of an imperfect angel?
    Has it sold more?? NO
    Because Mariah’s time is over.
    I like Mariah! I never denied it.

    YOU ARE AN A**HOLE, that’s the truth.

    Madonna yeah, flopped in America, but what is more important? World or USA?

    You, whoever you are – you are a laughable.

  87. samanticx says:

    LOL @ Lambs who are grasping at straws!

    So much more ENTERTAINING than being tortured attending Mariah’s honky tonk school basement concerts! Hahaha!

    Whatsit again, “Forget about the all-time thing. We’re living right now, LOL.”??? Huh?? All the WORSE as Mariah has NO career left NOW! HAHAHA

    Oh, I say school basement concerts for it appears that Mariah can’t even fill up school gyms! hahaha

    Seriously, her last STUDIO ALBUM was DUDDER than DUD. That Brazilian “hit” is so laughable as it was TIED to a promo– kinda like Mariah’s funny tactic of tying her downloads to KFC purchases and wanted it COUNTED by BB! Gawd, how DESPERATE is that?? hahaha.. And just days or a few weeks of MOAIA release, it was sold in the BARGAIN BINS– almost GIVEN FOR FREE just to add to the tally!! OMG!!! hahahah

    Mariah reportedly kept on twitting to PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE download her songs! She promised great promos! She promised PRIZES for Y’ALL! OMG.

    And, really, 1991 is NOW and 2005 is PAST?? Where’s the BRAIN in that?? LOL

    And what’s this other nonsense that 4 minutes became a hit just because of Justin? Huh? This, from a loon of someone whose “hits” were MOSTLY rent-a-hot-rapper collaborations or collaborations with BOY BANDS??

    You lambs are really talking foolishness.. Gawd, I swear, I can’t stop from LAUGHING hard reading your nonsense! So much nonsense, kinda like Mariah’s yearly press releases on how she and her husband (I forgot his name lol) are renewing their wedding vows yearly! And the constant baiting on the pregnant “rumor” thing that RAPIDLY the press COULD care LESS AND LESS about!

    And btw, is Mariah an “ARTIST”??

    NO.

    Hahahaha!

  88. MOFF says:

    Mariah’s last “top” hit was
    Obsessed. In SOME countries it has charted, but outside the USA.. FLOP

    US Hot Dance Club Songs 1
    Italy 6
    US Billboard Hot 100 7
    France 8
    US Mainstream Top 40 8
    Czech Republic 11
    US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs 12
    Australia 13
    Belgium 14
    Canada 15
    Japan 16
    Belgium 20
    New Zealand 21
    European Hot 100 Singles 28
    Slovakia 37
    UK Singles 52
    Germany not charted
    Netherlands 61
    Switzerland 67

    You said Celebration was a flop? yeah in the USA, but:

    Bulgarian Airplay Chart 1
    Finland 1
    Hungary 1
    Italian Singles Chart 1
    Russia 1
    Slovak Airplay Chart[ 1
    Sweden 1
    US Hot Dance Club Songs 1
    Dutch Top 40 2
    European Hot 100 Singles 2
    French Singles Chart 2
    Belgian Singles Chart 3
    UK Singles Chart 3
    Belgian Singles Chart 4
    Danish Singles Chart 4
    Swiss Singles Chart 4
    Canadian Hot 100 5
    Czech Airplay Chart 5
    German Singles Chart 5
    Japan Hot 100 5
    Norway Singles Chart 5
    Austrian Singles Chart 8
    Irish Singles Chart 10
    Spanish Singles Chart 17
    Australian Singles Chart 40
    US Billboard Hot 100 71

    laughableness, see?

  89. samanticx says:

    Oh, Mariah milked her “feud” with Eminem for all its worth for publicity.. but it’s Eminem who’s having HITS now! LOL

    To the lambs, are you really PROUD inside knowing that your idol was sucha cheater as to resort to payolas and repressions just to chart?? And handing out free downloads just to chart? Using CHARITY (the KFC tie-in) as an excuse for fans to download just to chart?? So SLEAZY.

    The world and even America have forgotten most of Mariah’s fake #1s while a non high-charting gem like Into the Groove is still high up the CLASSIC list!

    And to repeat, Madonna was THE ORIGINAL and RIGHTFUL choice to receive the World Music Awards’ “Biggest Selling Artist of the Millennium” but she REFUSED the award and Mariah was the SPARE TIRE, which from then til now, her lambs keep on harping her “achievement” which was just hand-me-down! hahaha

    It was the same as MTV FIRST APPROACHED Madonna to receive the first MTV Icon Tribute, but she also refused, leaving MTV to give it to Janet Jackson!

    That’s a REAL MEGASUPERSTAR, able to refuse “awards” all the lesser stars are falling all over themselves to get! That’s Em-Ey-Dee-Oh-En-En-Ey, MADONNA!

  90. samanticx says:

    Seriously, EVEN if in a parallel or alternative universe where Mariah happens to have sold higher than Madonna, it WOULDN’T MATTER as Madonna’s contribution to and impact on MUSIC, CULTURE, AND SOCIETY is SO HUGE that she’ll still be considered FAR GREATER ARTIST AND STAR.

    Mariah is just someone who SOLD high before and HAD a voice before. But as a cultural force? ZIP.

    As you may notice, I don’t call Mariah names.. Yeah, she’s annoying and her music is crap and she doesn’t know how to entertain her way out of a paper bag, but she’s still a person. I don’t hate her. Good for her as she’s had her own great success.. but she’s SO NO MATCH for Madonna. That’s all. ;)

  91. MOFF says:

    Samanticx, your are so right =)

    Lamps, we all know that Madonna is the more successful and higher selling artist.
    We know Madonna has STILL a huge impact in the world and some of her last songs DIDN’T chart in the USA, because she didn’t give any promotion to her songs.TRAMPDONNA, that’s why Madonna wasn’t that successful in the last years. Also a reason is that Madonnas music doesn’t fit to the music world “now” in the USA (hip hop, rnb, rap, you know..)
    But we must be honestly – Both are great artists with their own way to make music successful.
    Mariah’s big time was in the 90s, she was great!
    Now her success decreased, we all know that. But STILL if we compare it to others, she sells well but she cannot keep up with Madonna!
    I know Mariah fans always try to push Mariah sales, to show her best sides!
    Show her huge albums, her most successful albums, and her hit songs in Brazil, USA or Japan.
    But that’s all. Fans of Mariah want to let Madonna down, want to put her weakness in few countries into the spotlight.
    Yeah, Madonna fans do that, too. But whether we are a fan of Mariah or Madonna – we always have to look at the facts and nobody’s interested in “opinions” or different meanings.
    The thing I hate most is insulting.
    I prefer Madonna – yeah – I don’t deny it, but I NEVER insulted Mariah or called her names.
    You, whoever you are if Trish or “Trampdonna”
    you LIKE and LOVE Mariah’s music. I don’t want you to dislike her music now, I just want you to look what I have written to you and to have a look at Madonna’s achievement.
    Mariah’s success is in the USA. She is also successful in Brazil and Japan.
    and she had a huge impact in many other countries worldwide.
    Madonna is STILL a TOP artist WORLDWIDE, besides the United States of America.
    But you know why.

    I hope you recognize the truth now, and don’t insult her anymore like I don’t insult Mariah – or the best way: Do NOT post anything more here!

  92. Truthfull says:

    I remember the first time I heard Vision of Love from Mariah Carey in 1990,everyone was so astonish! Everybody asked,Who is it ????!!! What an exceptional and beautiful voice! When I listen Emotions in 1991,I was so surprised cause I wasn’t imagine that human voice could reach this level of range and power.It’s was at the same time amazing, magnifificent and so incredible! Since this time, Mariah became my favorite singer and I listen her songs everyday. Mariah Carey songs send me to heavens and make me feel so good.What we could imagine better than Hero,Vision of love, Always be my baby or Without you? Mariah Carey is really the best singer of all times,all her songs prove it.Moreover,she’s so talentuous, succesfull, beautiful and sexy.She combine beauty,talent ,grace and sexyness perfectly.No one wasn’t, ain’t and will never be able to sing her songs ( Make it happen, Love takes times, All in your Mind, You’re so cold, Forever, Can’t Let go,Dreamlover,Anytime you need a friend,Underneath the Stars,Fantasy,Butterfly,Whenever you call, Bliss, Against all odds,Loverboy,Fourth Of July,My saving Grace, Fly Like a bird, Through the rain,I want to know what love is, Migrate,If it’s over , Mine again,I’ll be lovin’you long time,We belong together,All I want for Christmas is You, etc… ).Till today,Mariah still technically and artistically the best singer ever,besides her voice also still unbeatable.Whatever say haters,Mariah is a legend alive,we can’t deny it,we see it ,music got no secret for Mariah. She’s a true Music Icon and she influence so many artists… Sometimes I asked myself what would be Music worldwide without Mariah Carey ‘s contribution ? Mariah Carey is the best,she blow away Whitney Houston,Barbra Streisand,Celine Dion, Aretha Franklin,Toni Braxton, Madonna (even thought Madonna is more successful than her and sold slightly more records ,Mariah blow away Madonna at achievements,records,influence,talent & quality,and mark on Music Pop) etc…,No doubt,Mariah’s contribution in music is huge.The most obvious is her revolution of Pop music by her 1995 release Fantasy remix with the rapper Old Dirsty Bastard.She continue to amaze people by her phenomenal voice and her incredible talent on singing all musical genres. No doubt,Mariah is a living legend ( expressed not only by just huge sales or chart success,but always by the quality of her art ,and her musical creativity ).Greatness of artists doesn’t measure only by their sales,but also by the quality of their work .Often,quality is more important than quantity ! Mariah Carey still give voice to our age and she make me feel so proud and so higher !!! Althought Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times,Mariah Carey is ranked just behind Madonna at sales.Moreover,Mariah Carey is The Best Singer Of All Times and The Female Artist of All Times.

  93. MEREDITH says:

    Samanticx :
    You said a lot of things about Madonna’s and Mariah’s sales and fulfillments !But contrary to what you say,Madonna doesn’t really outsold Mariah Carey in USA ! Madonna just got 1 million albums sold over Mariah’s albums sales but with 7 active years of advantage !

    About Payola, nothing never proved that Mariah Carey used payola for topping Billboard Chart,it’s just rumors invented by Mariah haters.However ,facts already proved that Madonna used payola . In November 2005 Warner Music Group has agreed to pay a $ 5 million fine after an investigation by New York State Attorney General Elliott Spitzer’s Office found that the Company has been involved in complicated payola schemes.
    You said nobody cares about Mariah worldwide ? It’s a lie,cause the total of Mariah’s record sales ( albums & singles ) worldwide proves that world cares about her !There is a slight difference between Mariah’s total sales and Madonna’s for 7 years of difference ! For example,the total sales of the 3 best selling Mariah’s albums surpass the 3 Madonna’s .Moreover,it’s not only in Japan that Mariah outsold Madonna ,but in entire Asia ( Japan,China,South Korea,North Korea,Taiwan,Hong Kong,Malaysia,Phillipines,Thailand,Singapur,Indonesia,etc…).
    America = Mariah 64,5 million in just 20 years ,Madonna 65,5 million in 27 years.So Mariah wins
    Asia = Mariah wins with huge difference ( not only in Japan,but the whole Asia )
    Europe=Madonna wins
    In the rest of the world,there is a slight difference between the respective sales of both.Madonna just got most success in Hit –parades .As we know,topping the Hit-parades doesn’t always mean most sales.Otherwise ,artists like Michael Jackson & Elvis Presley wouldn’t be the greatest recording sellers worldwide,as they has less number one hits worldwide than Madonna !Therefore,there is not a direct link between the total of # 1 hit songs worldwide with the sales of an artist .
    About talent,Mariah still HAVE a better technical voice than any other female artist so,don’t be stupid ! Besides,Mariah Carey is 40 years old, you can’t expect her to have exactly the same voice she had 20 years ago!! That’s impossible for anyone. Have you actually heard Mariah Carey performing Without You this year? On the 17th May 2010, she performed ‘without you’ in eygpt in front of thousands at a private party, and she sounded awesome. And it wasn’t lipped-! She hasn’t lost her voice, she’s just sings a different style now, and her voice has adapted to that style, but as soon as she performed ‘Without You’, it sounded like the classic she released in the 90’s !Therefore, her voice stay today almost the same since her debut at 1990,it’s also proved by her 2009 release single I Want to know what love is..This song is one of many others which deny clearly all haters rumors sayin’ that Mariah’s voice declined.In fact,her voice still toneful,fresh,sensual,versatile and very young for her age .At 40,Mariah Carey’s voice still unique and beautiful.She stay till now,the best female voice worldwide ( listen her performance in the song Everybody Hurts,even Leona Lewis voice is average next to Mariah’s).
    For example,did Madonna’s voice got today exactly the same qualities it has in her 1983’s Like A Virgin ? Or in her 1989’s Like A Prayer ? ( even though Madonna never was a vocalist,she’s above of all a SINGER,so her voice is important too!)Did Celine Dion got today the same voice she had in her 1992’s Beauty & the Beast ? In her 1993’s The Power Of Love ?Aretha,Barbra,Whitney,etc… Why ,when it’s about Mariah,you always want that her voice still exactly the same it was at her debut ?Nevertheless,Mariah’s voice keep its qualities better than all other artists’s ! HATERS,YOU’LL CANNOT DESTROY MARIAH CAREY’S VOICE POPULARITY on saying that her voice decline,cause it’s UNTRUE !! Can you cite to me any female artist which could sing ( like Mariah ) I Want To Know What Love Is ( Mariah’s version ) ? Angel’s Cry ? Migrate ? Fly Like A Bird ? Mine Again ? Your Girl ? As you claim her voice decline,so why other female singers couldn’t sing any of her recent songs ? It should be very easy for them ! Inversely, which songs from female artist Mariah Carey couldn’t sing ? Which ?
    Mariah is a soulless singer ??? Among Mariah and Madonna,WHO IS A MORE SOULFUL SINGER ??????? Who release most emotions in songs ??? Everybody will see clearly that you’re so SILLY !
    About Mariah’s vocal acrobatics,yeah!!! This is an extremely rare asset Mariah got over all other female artists,which contribute to make her songs very original . She’s rightly the only one singer who can produce so complex vocal runs !! Thanks to that sing skills, that’s also why she’s the best singer ever !As Simon Cowell said : “ to sing a Whitney Houston song is very hard,but to sing a Mariah Carey song is a vocal suicide ! “
    Be realistic Samanticx,there is no comparison between Madonna and Mariah Carey at talent and sing skills,everybody know it.
    About the cultural impact ,significance,historical and current relevance you talk about,can you precise what Madonna do exactly in this point ? We know that Madonna is the first woman to use blatant sexuality which was viewed by all of the world .She also relayed much more on her image to reach a wide medium…What else ? We know that Mariah revolutionize Pop music by her remix of Fantasy.We also know that Mariah Carey is the main musical influence of most of today’s artists worldwide !However , musically, what’s Madonna’s contribution ?
    And contrary to what you said,Mariah Carey is in the league of greatest artists such as Beatles,Elvis Presley, and Michael Jackson, as Madonna is in it .Cause Mariah is only second to Madonna at records sales ( a slight difference separate their sales ).Besides,Mariah share some records only with those artists, excluding Madonna : Best Selling artist OVERALL of a decade, Most # 1 songs penned by artist,most #1 hit songs at Billboard Hot 100,most cumulated weeks at # 1 in Billboard Hot 100 .Besides,Mariah Carey and Michael Jackson are the only artists ever who got the Millennium Award .
    Maybe Madonna is very much hot as you said,but BEING HOT is almost all that Madonna got as asset in music,contrary to Mariah who got TRUE MUSICAL TALENT,EXCEPTIONAL VOICE AND GREAT SING SKILLS.
    Lady Gaga virtually BEHAVES as if she’s Madonna,so what ? Leona Lewis & Christina Aguilera try to SING as if they are Mariah Carey .
    About Madonna’s performing abilities,Madonna is above of all an entertainer, but Mariah is above of all a singer .Madonna achieve huge gross profits by her tours cause she’s a good entertainer .Madonna also know how to promote herself by eccentricities ,But Mariah amaze people by her extraordinary voice and her sing skills ,that’s why she’s above of all successful at records sales.

    Mariah got several classic musics everywhere worldwide : Hero,My all,Always Be My Baby,O Holy Night,I’ll Be There,Without You, We Belong Together, All I Want For Christmas Is You,Anytime You Need A Friend,When You Believe,One Sweet Day,etc…Those songs are timeless,and you can hear them anytime on radio anywhere worldwide.However,since when did we ever hear Like a Prayer,la Isla Bonita,Frozen or Papa Don’t Preach ? Only Madonna’s fans always remember those songs now,no one else.There are many generations who don’t know those songs,but every generations knows Mariah’s classics.
    Moff : You said deliberately that Mariah’s 18 # 1 hits got payola rumor,but the sales of Mariah’s albums and singles in USA deny it ! In facts,how Mariah could sell so much albums & singles in USA ( with just 20 active years) if her # 1’s hits were fake ?
    Madonna got most number ones singles worldwide than not only Mariah,but also than MJ,Elvis,Beatles,etc…Nevertheless ,her sales doesn’t surpass MJ’s,Elvis & Beatles ! So,you see that numerous # 1 hits worldwide doesn’t mean more sales .Moreover,don’t forget that US Billboard’s is the greatest music market on earth ! Billboard’s market is much more significant than UK’s ,even much significant than whole Europe( Mariah got 2 # 1 hits at UK,not 1) !
    We know why Madonna never got more than one World Music award in her entire career.It’s because her sales was always surpassed by other artist’s each year .As we know,the World Music Awards are given for best-selling albums worldwide of each year ( For example,in 1980’s ,Whitney Houston’s and Michael Jackson’s respective albums sales always surpass Madonna’s ,therefore,this them which won the most World Music Award in this decade.For the 1990 decade,Mariah carey won the most WMA as she has most successful albums in that decade than any other artists.Afterward Celine Dion ,Ace Of Base, Shania Twain,next Alanis Morissette,Backstreet Boys,etc…It’s not by favor that World Music Award honored such artists,It’s because they deserved it.
    Samanticx : You lie when you said that Madonna refused the Millennium Award and Mariah was the spare tire.IT’S UNTRUE ! Mariah was the only female candidate to receive this distinction as she was the biggest selling female artist of 1990 decade.It’s wasn’t just till 2000 that Mariah got the title of best selling Female artist,it was since 1996 ! In facts,Guiness World Records( French edition ) published in 1996-1997 that Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of the world for the 1990 decade.In 1998,Mariah won the Legend Award for best selling artist overall of the 1990’s ( more than 90 million albums sold ).In 2001,Madonna sold 120 million albums worldwide,while Mariah Carey sold 150 million albums ( 2001 World Music Award )! Therefore, how Madonna could be the initial candidate to receive the Millennium Award ? Madonna’s sales catch up ,then exceeds Mariah’s in the 2000 decade !
    In the same way,lots of you ( Madonna’s fans ) lied before and said lots of non-sense assertions : you claimed Madonna’s total albums sales since 1999, was 338 million,at 2005 it turns to 380 million ( In accordance with Guinness World Records),The Millennium Award and Mariah’s Chopard diamond Award are silly & irrelevant for most people worldwide cause they doesn’t believe in it,they rather believe in the 338 million or the 380 million albums sold by Madonna,bla bla bla…But now,you see clearly that all the majority which believed in the 380 million albums sold by Madonna were all wrong as Guinness itself rectify it just now and claim 200 million sold by Madonna.How many of you claimed before that the 380 million was proved many times by Guiness,IFPI,Forbes ? How much of you claimed that it is published many times,therefore,it’s necessary trueand undoubtful ? How many times did you increased Madonna’s sales exaggerately and explained the detailed progression of the so-called 338 million albums sold from 1999 till 2006 ? You see ?
    You said Mariah milked her feud with Eminem for its worth to publicity,but as many objective people will see it it’s untrue cause this is not Mariah’s style ! Mariah never use scandals or her private position to promote her sales.That’s not like her ! that’s resemble much more Madonna ! Madonna’s numerous and various scandals were useful for her worldwide fame and success ! In fact,Madonna’s scandals ( particulary sexual scandals ) played a determining part in Madonna’s fame and success.But Mariah doesn’t like this.All her tricks are music,voice ability and talent.
    Moff :
    Contrary to what you say,the main success of Mariah is not only in Japan and USA,but in entire Asia,Brasil ,West Indies and some others isolate countries .Besides,Madonna main success (ON SALES ) is USA and Europe ( mainly UK ).( Madonna is above of all successful in worldwide hit charts & Hit- parades ,but about sales worldwide ,she’s close to Mariah in the rest of the world).
    Emancipation of Mimi ( 12-13,5 million) sold more than Confessions On A Dance floor ( 7,5-10 million).
    Moff,don’t forget world doesn’t mean Europe,but all continents combined,including America. America is even most important than any other continent, as it’s the greatest music market in the world.
    Of course, Mariah Carey got even 2 citations from Guinness World Record :
    -1997 Guinness World Record ( French-language edition ) : Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of the 1990 decade.
    -2003 Guinness World Record ( English-language edition ) : Mariah Carey got the record of the most extended voice ( 5,2 octaves ) ever for hitting an G# 7 note ( 2002 superbowl ).She’s also the only human which can emit a sound audible by dolphins in according with Guinness World Records.

  94. MOFF says:

    Yeah Meredith, you are right in almost everything you say.

    First of all, Mariah is still above all female singers on earth in case of voice skills.
    Second: Madonna fans mostly claim that she has sold 380 million albums. But this is wrong.
    THe new guinness world record book (2011 edition) says that Madonna is the top selling female artist of the world (not just USA, not just a decade – it’s OVERALL) with 75 million albums sold in America, further more 125 million outside. Combined you’ll get a REALISTIC summary of sales.
    But if you add her single sales you’ll sure get to a number of over 300 million (338, 380, etc.)

    About the radio:

    Meredith, you said no one cares about Madonna songs?
    They aren’t played in the radio?
    That’s untrue. I even hear more Madonna songs in the radio than Mariah’s. (honestly, I’ve never heard a Mariah song in the radio)

    But that doesn’t matter – if I heard a Madonna or a Mariah song, Madonna songs are TIMELESS, whereas some Mariah songs are timeless.

    – Mariah got the Millennium Award for being the best selling female artist of the 90s decade.

    For the title being the best selling female artist overall, Madonna should win the award because her 80s and 90s sales surpass Mariah’s.
    She refused it. But if we look at the 90s, Mariah will surely win, she outsold Madonna in the 90s decade.

  95. REGINALD says:

    Hi,everybody ! I am a Haitian and I love music.Here in Haiti,Mariah Carey is much more popular than Madonna ( as foreign and English-language female artist ).However,some Haitians known Madonna above of all for her image as sex-symbol,but her songs are unknown for people. Mariah Carey songs are popular next to all generations.Mariah got many classics songs which are continued to playing till today on Radios, although their oldness.They are : Hero, When you believe, Without you, O holy night,Always be my baby, My all, Anytime you need a friend, One sweet day.Those songs are timeless here and everyone know they. Whitney Houston and Celine Dion are also very popular here,but Mariah is the top.And I’m sure that it’s the same in other countries next to Haiti ( Dominican Republic,Jamaica,Martinique,etc…).

  96. MEREDITH says:

    It’s wrong.Madonna sold 200 million albums ,and approximately 70 million singles.Her fans always claimed before that she sold 380 million ALBUMS ( not including singles ).It’s just now,after that Guinness rectify that she sold 200 million albums that some of her fans try to say they were mean albums & singles when they claimed 380 million !But ,it’s untrue ! they’d even explained the sales progression since 1999( 338 million ALBUMS SOLD since 1999 )till 2005 ( 380 million ).However,now,everybody see that it was a LIE!!!
    About Mariah’s Millennium Award,you lie !!Mariah’s sales surpassed Madonna’s sales in 1980’s & 1990’s as Madonna’s GLOBaL sales was 120 million while Mariah’s were more than that ! Madonna’s global sales didn’t surpass Mariah’s in 2000.Did you forget that in the ” Mariah vs Madonna best selling” entry,a lamb explained you rightly that in accordance with many sources she read since this time in 2000,Madonna’s global sales didn’t reach 125 million while you claimed 338 million for her at this time ?And that Mariah’s sales at this time was 145 million ? Now,what do we see ? which were right,among her and Madonna’s fans ? She was right !Now,everybody admit that in 2001,Madonna’s album sales were 120 million ,and not 338 million!Besides,we ( lambs) were also right about Madonna’s global albums sales ( we claimed 200-210 million while Madonna’s fans claimed 380 million).
    So we see ? Mariah is the first best selling female artist on earth !! every facts proves it and continue to prove it !Madonna became the best selling female artist in the world since the half of the 2000 decade !! You see ? Before Guinness rectification,which Madonna fan who ever agree with our approximation of Madonna’s albums sales ? But now,everything gives us reason and make all our preview assets right !!

  97. PIGdonna Ciccone says:

    Whoredonna is a prostitute who can’t sell. Mariah outsold her ass big time.

  98. PIGdonna Ciccone says:

    MOFF, I never said that PIGdonna is only a flop in USA. She’s a flop in the whole world. Just ask Australia, Asia, New Zealand. She’s a nobody in Asia. She is sh** compared to Mariah, Beatles and Michael Jackson in Asia. Nobody know her over there. Only that stupid trashy flopped European microstates support her AIDS music. She’s over. While Carey is #1 in the biggest market in the world, USA, PIGdonna got her massive #1s in Italy or Austria, or Slovakia. LMFAO. MASSIVE Madonna! Just massive.

  99. PIGdonna Ciccone says:

    Look at this ugly and disgusting prostitute: emplastrocubas.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/madonna-ugly-skinny2.jpg

    Her arms are completely destroyed and her face is fu**ed up. She’s disgusting.

  100. MARIAH SLAYS MANDONNA says:

    DEATH@ UGLY AZZ MAD MANDONNA FANS TRYING IT….MARIAH CAREY > MANDONNA….WHERE IS MANDONNA’S AWARDS THAT PROVE SHE IS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST OF ALL TIME? EXACTLY…MARIAH HAS THE AWARDS….EVERY MAJOR MEDIA SOURCE WORLDWIDE RECOGNIZES MARIAH CAREY AS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST OF ALL TIME….SHE HAS HAD THIS TITLE SINCE 2001…MARIAH IS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST IN NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT & THE ASIAN CONTINENT WHICH ARE THE LEADING INDUSTRIES IN THE WORLD…MANDONNA ONLY AHEAD OF MARIAH IN ERUOPE AND EUROPE ONLY UGLY…STAY MAD AT WHATS REAL MONKEY

  101. MARIAH SLAYS MANDONNA says:

    YEW MONKEYS TALKIN BOUT MANDONNA WORLDWIDE SUCCESS….HAS SHE EVER SPENT OVER 20 WEEKS AT #1 IN 1 COUNTRY? NO….HAS SHE EVER HAD A 1 MILLION SELLER IN ANY ASIAN COUNTRY? NO….MARIAH HAS IN NORTH AMERICA, ASIA, AUSTRALIA AND EUROPE…HOW COME MANDONNA ONLY GOT A 1 MILLION+ SELLER IN NORTH AMERICA & EUROPE?

    LETS NOT SIT HERE AND USE MADONNA’S RECENT SUCCESS WORLDWIDE AS IF SHE IS MORE SUCCESSFUL CAUSE CLEARLY SHE ISNT….IN THE 90’S, MARIAH OUTSOLD MANDONNA ON A WORLDWIDE SCALED 2 AND IN SOME CASES 3 TO 1….EVERY MAJOR PUBLICATION SAYS MARIAH CAREY IS THE TOP SELLING FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST OF ALL TIME….AND IT WILL STAY THAT WAY….AN U STRAY BEAST WILL CONTINUE TO BE UPSET….OLDONNA HAS BEEN SLAYED

  102. MARIAH SLAYS MANDONNA says:

    HOW COME MANDONNA AINT RECOGNIZED FOR SELLING 100 MILLION ALBUMS FROM THE WORLD MUSIC AWARDS LIKE ITS PEERS MARIAH CAREY & CELINE DION?

    HOW COME MANDONNA AINT BEING CALLED THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST OF ALL TIME IN ITS PRESS RELEASES?

    YEW MONKEYS SO OBSESSED WITH QUEEN CAREY ITS RIDICULOUS

  103. MOFF says:

    You are silly people who don’t understand anything!

    first of all: Do use BIG LETTERS to express your statements better? That’s the first reason why you can’t say the truth.

    Second: Madonna is a bigger GLOBAL PLAYER than Mariah!

    Third: Madonna is only successful in Europe?
    That’s a lie. She has been in the USA until 2003 but she is STILL a worldwide sensation!

    Fourth: Madonn is the best selling female artist on earth, not Mariah.
    It’s a shame that there are still some stupid lambs who claim Mariah is the best selling one.

    Meredith, Madonna hasn’t sold 70 million singles. She has sold more than 100 million!

    Yeah maybe Madonna uses her sexual attractivity to make her image huger.
    Madonna is an entertainer, a moderately singer and great song producer!

    No other female singer knows how to pomote and how to sell an image so well as Madonna.

    fifth: Madonna doesn’t have any awards to prove that she is the best selling female artist?

    look at the guinness book 2011 edition.
    Even Billboard honored Madonna for being the most successful and best selling female artist of the 80s.

    It’s such shame for all who claim Madonna is less successful than Mariah!
    Yeah, maybe Mariah has million sellers in Asia, North America.
    But Madonna has sold more singles by far in all those countries than Mariah! (Europe, South Africa, even North America)
    She is slightly behind Mariah in Asia and America but she is THE global player!

    PigDonna, you are the most stupid person I’ve ever known.
    Madonna isn’t a flop in the whole world.

    Can you tell me why Celebration and Hard candy have BOTH sold more then Mariah’s last albums?

    …mmhh let me think..

  104. DAVID says:

    No doubt Mariah Carey is the most talented female musician ever. I get chills every time I listen to Mariah’s songs which I listen to every night. Mariah is the Queen of music, just like Elvis is the King of Rock & Roll.
    I had a debate with many friends about music last week ,then one of them ( a lamb ) made us notice that , before modern technologies like television ,VCR,DVD etc…( which allow many artists to promote and market theirselves ,and also get populary and success faster and easier, thanks to video clips and artistical eccentricities ,making their work more attractive to the public ),Mariah would be always a very huge and great singer worldwide ( maybe the greatest ) at those times ,because of her talent and her extraordinary voice ,contrary to many other singers.Before the invention of such technologies,and when there was only radio and phonograph ,Madonna wouldn’t surely be the most popular female singer on earth ,nor the most successful !

    Anyhow, as a painter, I know what it’s like to take s*** from people who don’t want to hear the truth. Keep up the good work.Madonna’s music doesn’t touch me,cause for me she’s an average singer and artist , but above of all a good business-woman and seller . Her music lacks sincerity,cos she neglige too much the artistical aspect of her work and just care about the commercial and marketable aspect.There is a lack of creativity,soul ,passion,originality ,refinement and real artistical inclination in her music comparatively to Mariah’s .Real artists not always produce their art just for reaching huge success and sales,but above of all for making amazing,beautiful and original things.That’s what is REAL ART.what many artists make today ( and also since long ago for some artists ) is called music COMMERCE,TRADE but not ART.Real art cares more about beauty & self expression than about the success its have to reach to.Briefly,Madonna’s singing style and voice are too average and normal to me ! Why would I had a preference to her compared to Janet Jackson,Jennifer Lopez,Britney Spears ,Kylie Minogue,etc…? What really make a difference among them all ( as such singers and entertainers ) ? I prefer to listen a particularly talented and gifted artist different of all the majority ! Nevertheless,I don’t hate Madonna ! I just don’t consider her particularly as a better artist than all others ( I know that she’s just more successful and popular ).I even like to watch some of her videos,but I consider Mariah as better than any other female artist ! That’s why she’s my favorite singer.

    About the success of Mariah worldwide,I don’t have to defend Mariah Carey : She is the first best selling female artist of all times in the world, the best selling western artist in Asia, the most influential female musician ,the revolutionary of Pop music,.Just those brilliant fulfillments talks by theirselves.
    Anyhow, we all agree on one thing: Madonna sure knows how to market herself. Take care!

  105. MUSIC says:

    It’s make me feel very disappointed and embarrassed when I see Madonna’s fans and Mariah Carey’s fans fighting ,cause I love both artists.I saw and read many Popdirt topics and noticed that the ones which deal about Mariah Carey AND Madonna are the most animated .I also notice that Mariah got more supporters ( globally ) and that most of Mariah’s supporters are females ,whereas Madonna’s are males .I admit that those debates are very useful ,cause they make us know many things we didn’t know before ,about the artists they deal with and even about others artists ( cause everybody write what they know and express themselves in accordance to what they learned in their background about those artists ).We also have the opinions of many people,from different kind of education .In this way,I learn a lot of things ( which are not avaible in the Web,or are difficult to find ) about not only Madonna and Mariah,but also Nana Mouskouri,Celine Dion,Whitney Houston,Cher,etc..)At least,we are sure about something : Madonna and Mariah Carey are very popular , and are by far the two greatest female artists on earth ! Most of us love Mariah Carey such as an exceptional singer ,and Madonna such as an exceptional entertainer .They are both different through their work,so the only thing which explain their constant rivalry is their incredible success ( In fact, how many entries are devoted to Celine Dion or Whitney Houston ? not a lot comparatively to Mariah’s and Madonna’s ).Besides,we usually see that entries oppose Mariah to Madonna whereas they never oppose any other female artist to Madonna ! It prove that Mariah is the female artist who is the most close to Madonna in success,popularity and achievements ! However ,why do you still figth ? Don’t you see that it’s pointless ? Why don’t you surpass your pride and say SINCERELY what you really know as TRUTH ?
    Let’s try to make this simple :
    Talkin about success of both, we have to recognize that Madonna is more successful,talkin about talent,we have to admit that Mariah is more talented.
    SALES : Madonna got more albums and more singles sales ( 200 million albums,70-80 million singles ) whereas Mariah’ s sales are 185-190 million albums sold ,55-60 million singles .Madonna is also a better concert seller than any female artist.
    POPULARITY : Madonna got the advantage ,though Mariah is more popular worldwide than we usually know ( specially in Oceania and some parts of Latin America ,Africa and Europe).
    MUSICAL CONTRIBUTION & REVOLUTION : Mariah wins,her music influences most artists and her work disrupts music .
    TALENT,VOICE & SING SKILLS : Mariah wins.She sing all genres ,her voice is adaptable to all genres.She got a better voice and is technically & creatively better than any female artist.Mariah also give more of her material than any other female artist.
    As we see it ,Madonna and Mariah Carey surpass all other female artists by far ! Both artists beat any others female artists at sales,popularity,influence,# 1 hits worldwide,etc…about talent & concert sales ,one of both got the supremacy over all other female artists .
    No doubt,Madonna and Mariah carey are both legends and icons.Madonna is greater than Mariah at success,like Mariah Carey is greater than Madonna at talent.BUT,as people usually attach more importance to success than talent,we have to say that Madonna is greater than Mariah Carey. HOWEVER ,Madonna and Mariah Carey are both in the league of greatest music legends of all times : Beatles,Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley .

  106. donna says:

    Video from Utube called ” Exposed Madonna fake sales versus Mariah Carey”
    It goes “2000, Guinness book of records declared Madonna the best recording artist of all time, selling over more then 150 million albums sold world wide” and then ” Would Geuiness have any reason to lie or favour anyone? No”
    It then goes onto say that Madonna said of Mariah carey that she is not particulary bright and that she would rather kill herself then be Mariah Carey!( Nice!)
    Then it goes onto ask how many albums did Mariah carey sell by 2000.
    Then it asks ” Would Madonnas label have reason to lie about her sales? Yes” and that ” Madonna and Mariahs sales are very close, but Mariah has done it in a shorter time”.
    In 2005 Madonnas label reported for the first time Madonnas total sales. Which they say is 250 million. They then go onto ask ” so what she sold 130 million albums in 5yrs? 5yrs that werent exactly the highlight of her career?”
    The person who made this video then goes onto say ” I’m not saying that Mariahs label hasn’t exaggerated as well, but they sure didn’t double her sales in the count of 5yrs!

  107. MOFF says:

    I Don’t have to say something more!

    MUSIC, you are 100 % right!

  108. PEACE says:

    Mariah Carey and Madonna RULES in music worldwide.The both are the bigger female artists of all times.They blow away all others female singers.Right? LONG LIFE TO MARIAH CAREY AND MADONNA I LOVE THE BOTH SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

  109. ddmone99 says:

    Omg! What part of best female artist of all time do people not understand! In 2004 Celine Dion got the Diamond Award for best female artist of all time. Mariah Carey has sold over 175 million albums worldwide (but she’s the best in america). BUT Celine Dion has sold over 200 million albums worldwide. It’s not rocket science. 25 million album difference! Celine is clearly better!

  110. Broken-T says:

    ddmone99,you’re wrong.Inform you first before to post your s**t here ok? Celine can’t compare with Mariah on sales.

  111. Manuel says:

    If I’m not mistaken, Celine Dion four albums were sold over 20 million copies worldwide. two albums were sold 30 million copies.

    1. Whitney Houston – The Body Guard -44 millions
    2. Shania Twain – Come On Over – 39 millions
    3. Alanis Morissette – Jagged Little Pill – 33 millions
    4. Celine Dion – Falling Into You – 32 millions
    5. Mariah Carey – Musicbox – 32 millions
    6. Celine Dion – Let’s Talk About Love – 31 millions
    7. Madonna – Immaculate Concepcion – 30 millions

    Hmmmm… hard to imagine who win for the battle. if the basis is the album sales.. it is Celine Dion but in single sales… I bet you Mariah Carey.

    Where is Madonna??? How come Madonna will be the best or second best in Canada. Celine Dion is no doubt to Canada. Shania Twain and Alanis Morissette is there as well the legendary Anne Murray.

    My only problem to Ms. Carey will be not the queen of concert. Madonna is the queen and the duchess is Celine Dion.

  112. STACY says:

    Celine Dion doesn’t sold more records than Mariah Carey,it’s senseless illogical and untrue ! In how many countries did Celine Dion outsold Mariah ? Mariah outsold Celine in USA ( the greatest music market of the world ),Asia ( including Japan,the second largest music market ),Oceania,Africa and some parts of Latin America.It’s just in Europe that Celine outsold Mariah ( and maybe Canada,but I am not sure yet ) .Took from another aspect,we still see clearly that Mariah sold more records than Celine :Celine sold less than 1,5 million records in all the 1980 decade,Mariah sold more than Celine in the 1990 decade ( the most successful decade ),Mariah sold ( slighty ) more than Celine at the 2000 decade.Besides,Mariah sold more singles than 2 times Celine’s worldwide ! How could Celine sold more records than Mariah ?M ariah is the second best selling female artist of all times.Celine sold 175 million albums and 30 million singles,Mariah sold 195 million albums and 80 million of singles !You see the difference ?

  113. STACY says:

    Even if Celine got more success than Mariah in concert,doesn’t mean she’s as great than Mariah Manuel.Heve you ever see a blog,poll,forum,debate,etc… Face Madonna Vs Celine.No.It’s because that’s Mariah who’s the most next to Madonna that they always face the both.I like Celine too but we must recognize that Mariah sold most records and got much more achievements.You understand? Let’s don’t fight,let’s just being objective. Read it Manuel.

  114. STACY says:

    Mariah Carey and Celine Dion are great vocalists,but Mariah Carey is greater than Celine Dion and a better artist. Celine Dion is in the league of great artists like: Barbra Streisand,Elton John,Whitney Houston,Rolling Stones,etc…Mariah Carey is in the league of greatest Legends and Music Icons such as : Beatles,Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson.Mariah share many records only with those artists:
    -Best Selling artist OVERALL of a decade (1960’s Beatles,1970’s Elvis Presley, 1980’s Michael Jackson, 1990’s Mariah Carey ).
    -Most # 1 songs worldwide by female artist ( Mariah is just second to Madonna )
    -Most Top 10 songs worldwide by female artist ( Mariah is second to Madonna )
    -Second Best selling female artist of all times ( behind Madonna )
    -Most # 1 songs penned by artist overall ( Paul McCarteney 23, John Lennon 19, Mariah Carey 17 ).
    -Most #1 hit songs at Billboard Hot 100 ( Beatles 20, Elvis Presley 18,Mariah Carey 18,Michael Jackson 13 ).
    -Most cumulated weeks at # 1 in Billboard Hot 100.(Elvis Presley 79, Mariah Carey 79 ).
    -Best Selling Female Artist of The Last Millennium ( Michael Jackson is the best selling male artist of the last Millennium )
    -Huge impact and contribution in music ( Mariah Carey revolutionize pop music.She’s the Queen of R&B,Elvis Presley is the King of Rock & roll,Michael Jackson is the King of Pop )
    – Number one musical influence worldwide of today’s artists
    -Second most popular female artist on earth ( Only behind Madonna )
    -Mariah is a Guinness Record Holder : Best selling Female Artist of the 1990’s decade ( 1997 Guinness World Record, French edition ), 2003 Guinness World Record of most extended voice ( 5,2 octaves ) ever for hitting an G # 7 note ( 2002 superbowl ). She’s also the only female artist who reach an E# 2 note ,the lowest note for a woman .Mariah is Also the only human which could emit a sound audible by dolphins .
    Mariah Carey got many others records over Celine Dion.But,these ones are enough to prove that she’s better than Celine Dion. ALL THESE FACTS PROVES THAT MARIAH CAREY IS GREATER THAN CELINE DION.

    Moreover ,Mariah Carey got many others records that Celine Dion had’nt ( maybe Celine got only a few of them) :
    Mariah Carey OCCUPATION : Singer,Songwriter,Model,Actress ,Record-producer,Composer,Entrepreneur.
    GENRES : Pop,R&B ,Dance,Rap,Ballads,Gospel, Jazz, Soul,Techno, Country,Rock,House
    ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS :
    -First World Best Selling Female Recording Artist Of All Times ( 2000-2003 )
    -Actual Second World Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times
    – World Best-Selling Artist Overall Of the 1990 Decade.(1998 Legend Award, 2000 Millennium Award). Only Female Artist With this Title.
    -Best-Selling Western Artist In Asia
    -World Best Selling Christmas Album Of All Times By a Female Artist
    – World Best-Selling Christmas Single Of All Times By a Female Artist
    -Two Singles ranked in the top 10 Best selling Singles by Female Artists
    -Best Selling Western Album in Japan ( # 1 ‘s)
    -Best Selling Western Album in China.( Mariah Carey’s album Music Box is the first international female album to pass 500,000 legal sales in China.( Daydream, Butterfly, #1’s and Charmbracelet also sold 500,000 copies or more in this country).Mariah Carey is the only female artist who got albums reaching and surpassing 500 ,000 copies sold in that Country).

    -Only Female artist who got 3 albums certified Diamond in USA (Mariah Carey,Music Box, Daydream ).
    -Two Albums ranked in the top 10 Best-Selling Albums Of All Times by Female Artists
    -Most Platinum Singles by a Female Artist in History
    -Only Artist Ever to have first 5 Singles go to # 1 in Billboard Hot 100
    -Only Female Artist to have 10 albums certified 4 x platinum or better
    -Third Richest Female Singer Of All Times
    -Mariah Carey give 90 % of her musical materiel (Composing,Writing,Producing,Arranging) More than any other Female Artist.
    -Most World Music Awards than any Artist Overall( 17 )
    -Most # 1 hits wrote or co-wrote by a Female Composer ( 17 ) Carole King is ranked second to Mariah -with 9 songs reached # 1
    -Third Songwriter Overall with most # 1 Songs penned (17 Songs) Behind Paul McCarteney and John Lennon.
    -Most # 1 hits in US single Chart ( 18 )
    – Second Female Artist with most # 1 Hits Worldwide.
    -Second Female Artsist with most Top 10 Hits Worlwide.
    -Second Female Artist with most Top 10 Hits in US Hot 100 ( 27 )
    -Most weeks at # 1 in US Hot 100 ( 79)
    – Longest time at the # 1 position (consecutive weeks) with “One Sweet Day” for 16 Weeks.
    -Billboard’s Most successful Song ever by a Female Artist ( We Belong Together ).
    -Billboard’s Most Popular Song ever by Female Artist for these 13 last Years,including the Whole 2000 decade.( We Belong Together).
    – Longest-running # 1 Hit in Brazilian Chart History ( I Want To Know What Love Is ,27 Consecutive Weeks ).
    – Best Voice Ever Overall (MTV,Blender Magazine,etc…)
    -Most extended Female voice ever 5,2 Octaves Range ( Guinness World Records).
    -First international soundtrack ever to achieve number-one status in Japan ( Glitter)
    -Music Box is 14 x platinum in Australia,only behind Shania Twain’s Come On Over (15 x platinum) and John Farnham’s Whispering Jack (18x platinum).
    -Revolution of world Pop music by her Remix of Fantasy .Mariah is the First Pop singer ever who collaborates with rappers and Hip Hop artists.Since this Remix,Every Pop artists work with hip hop artists now.
    – Mariah Carey’s songs are the most performed on talent searching competitions like X FACTOR , AMERICAN IDOL, STAR ACADEMY,etc…
    -Pop Vocal Icon worldwide
    -Second most Sexy Female Singer ( Behind Madonna) .
    – Number 1 Musical Influence for 80 % artists of Asia,America,Europe,Oceania and Latin America
    -Second Most Popular International female Singer Worldwide .
    -The Holder of Titles: The Voice, The Queen of R&B, The Best Singer of All Times,The female Artist of All Times.
    MARIAH CAREY is an accomplished artist.She’s not border in just music.She has experiences as such actress ( in the films :Glitter,Tenesse,Precious,Wisegirls,etc…),model ( Fashion Shows for VERSACE, PINKO,promotions for PINKO and for her own fragrances,launching of a fashion style,etc…) ,business ( Fragrances ),etc…She won the Legs Of goddess Gillette Venus Award for the most beautiful legs in 2006.
    FACTS SHOWS OBVIOUSLY THAT MARIAH CAREY GOT MUCH MORE ACHIEVEMENTS THAN CELINE AND SHE’S MOST SUCCESSFUL THAN CELINE DION.

  115. MOFF says:

    It is irrelevant if Madonna has 3 albums or no album in the Top 10 list of the biggest selling albums of female singers… The reason why Madonna is the best selling female artist is that Madonna has released much more albums.
    But even though – Madonna sells more than Carey, Dion,….
    Who said Madonna is the best selling artist in Canada?
    It could be Madonna and it surely would be possible but I always thought that Celine Dion has sold the most CDs in Canada…
    But btw, How many number ones has Celine compared to Madonna?
    I know that Celine has many diamond certified albums in Canada, but would they really beat Madonnas total album and single sales in Canada?
    I’m not sure..

    Fact is that Celine is the more successful touring artist than Mariah Carey – by all means!

    Fact is that Celine has 2 albums over 30 million copies sold…

    Fact is that Mariah has much more albums which have all sold over 10 million.. (BTW- Mariah also has albums over 20, 30 million)

    Fact is that Mariah has the better voice.

    now compose your own opinion…

  116. donna says:

    Celine Dion sold 184 million records [english] france recording not included.
    mariah sold 190 million records.

  117. donna says:

    “the world sales reported by labels and the media are basedon certifications/shipment figures from around the world and not actual sales”.

  118. donna says:

    Celine Dion did surpass 200 million records , but first you must add her 30 million france album to her total English records which is 185 records.
    and Mariah hasn’t sold 200 million records.

  119. donna says:

    top best selling female is
    Mariah Carey and Celine Dion

  120. donna says:

    top best selling tour/concert female
    madonna, cher, and tina turner

  121. Truth says:

    donna,where did you get these infos? Don’t you know that Celine was never a great singles seller? Mariah Carey sold more than two times Celine’s singles worldwide. Mariah Carey also sold more albums.Why you don’t recognize the truth? It’s so obvious! Mariah Carey outsold Celine in Albums and Singles.Check the detailed sales of Celine and you’ll see obviously that she can’t compare to Mariah at sales.

  122. donna says:

    the most annoying female singer
    1. Whitney houston. she prefer a spoon of crack than her career .
    2. Mariah Carey. love her hate her, her recent live performance mostly teribble due to weakens vocal

  123. PIGdonna Ciccone says:

    donna, Whoredonna’s career is over. Just accept it and move on.

  124. Christy says:

    Donna,Celine never sold 30 milion French albums worldwide,she sold 17-20 million French albums !There is the list of her French albums sales :
    La voix du bon Dieu 40 000
    Céline Dion chante Noël 40 000
    Tellement j’ai d’amour 180 000
    Les chemins de ma maison 90 000
    Du soleil au cœur 90,000
    Chants et contes de Noël 40 000
    Les oiseaux du Bonheur 90,000
    Mélanie 90 000
    Les plus grands succès de Céline Dion40,000
    C’est pour toi 40 000
    Celine Dion en concert 40,000
    Les chansons en or 40,000
    Incognito 500 000
    The Best Of 300,000
    Dion chante plamondon 2 million
    A l’Olympia 0,5 million
    D’eux 8 million
    Live a Paris 0,7 million
    S’il suffisait d’aimer 3, 5 million
    Au Coeur du stade 0,5 million
    1 filles & 4 types 0,7 million
    On ne Change pas 0,5 million
    D’elles 0,4million
    Global Sales : 18 ,460001 million French records sold. So Celine sold approximately 19 million French records ,not 30 million !
    Besides,Mariah sold 190 million ALBUMS, not records.She sold 80 million singles.Mariah global record sales is 270 million records sold worldwide . You see ? Celine is far behind Mariah ! . She’s the third best selling female artist.
    Mariah and Madonna are by far the biggest selling female artists of all times

  125. donna says:

    mariah may hold the record as the best selling female, but she also hold the record as THE WORST SELLING TOUR EVER,LOL. MAINLY nobody wants to hear randb and hip hop mimi. she destroyed her big fans base which is came from pop, soul and disco lover. by singing trash randb and hip hop song. she wasted her time singing those rubbish.
    mariah and Whitney are two stupid retarted singer ever lived on this earth, they destroy their superb voice, look at them now, and hear the drugy voice of Whitney and the squeak voice of mimi. just teribble

  126. Mandy says:

    I agree with Donna about Mariah singing mainly hip hop and R&B songs.I loved her ballads and gospel songs so much ! but I don’t agree that Mariah and Whitney are stupids ! Besides,mariah still many beautiful ballads in her recent R&B albums My Saving GraceFly Like A bird,Circles,Never too Far,I Want To Know What Love is,Angel’s Cry,etc…,try them and you’ll see what I talk about!

  127. donna says:

    “My Saving GraceFly Like A bird,Circles,Never too Far,I Want To Know What Love is,Angel’s Cry,”.
    not impressive, there are lot of squeakiness and raspiness in those songs.
    for comparison to those songs. just listen her song endless love , her voice was amazing in it, the smoothness and the power are still there.

  128. donna says:

    in the 90’s, Mariah’s smooth,sharp and powerfull thick voice were still there

  129. Mandy says:

    Donna,you are right in some part of what you said.But if you listen Fly like a bird you’ll see that it’s exactly like her 1990 Anytime you need a friend.Mariah still got many good pop songs in her 2000’s albums. Through the rain, Mine again I didn’t mean to turn you on, I want to know what love is,Never to far, My saving grace, Circles,etc… Her voice is as powerful as in her 1990’s songs.Just try to listen them.Don’t forget,Mariah got her Guinness World Records ” Most Extended Voice ever” Title for her 2002 version of the National Anthem The Star Spangled Banner.You can’t expect her voice stay the same at her 1994 Endless Love. Did Celine got the same voice at her 1993 The Power of love? Don’t let pride make you blinded.Mariah voice stay very impressive. I think you don’t listen these songs that I put here,otherwise,you didn’t say those words.Mariah voice in My Saving Grace is incredibly beautiful in powerful ( listen her high screams in the end of this song.

  130. ....... says:

    Madonna is nothing ok she is only a bitch come on Mariah get so much success and that’s only in 20 years oki Madonna sold more records ok but she is not accept in the world I think she sleep with somebody in the industry that she make something good for Madonna I mean she have no voice no talent she can’t dance there a so much better dancer like Beyonce or Janet Jackson oki Madonna is nothing but Mariah have a great talent she is amazing all her songs will be forever and not enough she write so much songs for other artist like Mary j.blige or Patti labelle oki and she was co producer for the record of theses both great artist oki everybody is better than Madonna Mariahs voice are powerful just amazing and she have everyyear a number 1 hit and when you ask some people in a casting who is the person that have inspiere you everybody say Mariah I mean Beyonce,Leone,Britney,Christina a,Mary j.blige and a lot of say this where is Madonna come on and patti labelle,aretha franklin and Diana ross and Michael Jackson have so much respect for Mariah Carey

    Mariah make music history she is the biggest artist in Hip Hop,Pop,R&B, and the style Pop feat.Hip hop comes from Mariah you see who is the best

  131. MOFF says:

    We actually ought to respect both, not only Mariah Carey or Madonna..
    They both have a their special talents.
    Mariah has her voice – everybody knows that
    Madonna slept with anybody?
    Yeah, maybe, but she is writing her songs (not alone), she is an entertainer and she can sing!
    We know that she isn’t really a great vocalist, but she is still ways better (LIVE) than other female singers I know….
    BOTH ARE LEGENDS . END

  132. donna says:

    can Mariah sing her big ballad such as HERO at this time,
    can she match or outperformed her past live performance such as hero live at nbc thanksgiving or hero at tokyodome????????????.

  133. donna says:

    hero at obama {awfull}
    hero at xfaxtor 2008{not so good}
    hero at adventure of mimi [awful]

  134. BROKEN-T says:

    It’s false.Donna, you’ll never appreciate the music of MC as you dislike her.You’ll always judge Mariah very hard unlike others singers. I also heard Celine’s live performance ,but they sounded very nasal and ugly,but you can’t see it cause you love Celine.All that she sing sound good in your ears.You’d better let down your pride and hatred against Mariah for appreciate her work.She sing really unique. Don’t said that her live performances are ugly and blabla bla.The fact stay,Mariah Carey prove she sing much better than Celine and got a much better voice.It’s time for us to be reasonable.Mariah is the best female singer ever.Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times as Moff said it.We love the both ,cause the both are great.Celine is good,but in facts,she can’t compare with Mariah Carey and Madonna.She’s in the same level than Barbra,Whitney,Aretha,ect… with a few differences between them. Whatever you think or say,Mariah Carey and Madonna rules in EVERYTHING.No question about it.

  135. donna says:

    the best selling female
    celine
    mariah.
    the best female singer who has “the voice “and also could delivers a great show
    celine
    tina turner
    patti labelle
    chakan khan
    cher
    the past whitney

    THE BEST VOICE EVER
    the 90′ MARIAH CAREY

  136. donna says:

    Madonna rules and rips in EVERYTHING, lol

  137. TRISH says:

    Mariah Carey combine everything.She’s the female artist of all times!

  138. TRISH says:

    Mariah Carey got
    Impressive Voice
    Impressive Skills
    Impressive Talent (composing,writing,producing)
    Impressive sales ( just behind Madonna)
    Impressive # 1 Singles Worldwide ( just behind Madonna)
    Huge mark on Pop Music (Pop/Hip Hop Revolution)
    Severall Records in achievements ( Millennium Award, Chopard Diamond award,Guiness world Record titles,etc…) These proves Mariah is really the female artist of all times.

  139. donna says:

    WAKE UP LAMB, if mimi hasn’t fixed her stage act, and that one of kind VOICE, she hasn’t been Impressive in TOUR/CONCERT SELL.
    bring it mimi, I agree she almost perfect, and she got almost everything.
    i have enough with mimi’s “DOWN TO EARTH” personality,
    it’s time to change mimi. show your ego a little bit more,.

  140. Mandy says:

    Donna,we must support Mimi cause she’s the only one who can give to us Ballads,Sweet dances and soulful Soul songs like she used to .I hope she’s back with an album with ballads,and Pop songs as her 1990 release.Mariah you’re very talentuous .Sing for us songs that we love.If I could talk face to face with Mimi,i would say to her that her fans loves her but they prefer her ballads and pop songs than her Hip hop albums.Can you imagine if she release a new Pop Album like she used to in 1990’s? MARIAH CAREY will come back with an incredible Pop album.Her Lamb await her. Long life to THE VOICE !!!

  141. Stephanie says:

    Mariah still have a great and unique voice,the proof is that she still make songs others great female vocalists would not able to perform ! In facts,the only singer who beat Mariah’s current voice is ….Mariah Carey in the 1990’s ! No other woman can beat the songbird supreme ,even right now cause her voice is better than theirs,Thanks to that extraordinary gifted voice .
    Nobody is as creative as Mariah vocally whether it’s in pop or in R&B music .
    Mariah forever !!!!!

  142. THE VOICE STAY THE VOICE !!!!! says:

    I remember the first time I heard Vision of Love from Mariah Carey in 1990,everyone was so astonish and asked,Who is it ???? Whitney Houston ? Answer: No ! But what an exceptional and beautiful voice! Beyonce Knowles said the first time she heard Vision Of Love by Mariah in 1990,she knew she wanted to be a singer.
    Wanya Morris (lead singer of Boyz II Men ) said that Vision Of Love is AMAZING & INCREDIBLE .Rihanna also said the same.
    Backstreet Boys,Justin Timberlake,Christina Aguilera,Alicia Keys,Kelly Clarckson,Jessica Simpson,Leona Lewis,etc….all claimed that Mariah Carey has an influence on their respective musics .
    Christina Aguilera also said she would love to have a voice like Mariah Carey.
    T. Field and research team discovered that Vision of Love has physiological and biochemical positive effects on depressed female adolescents.
    Songwriter and Producer Walter Afanasieff who has usually worked with many biggest artists as : Michael Bolton,Mariah carey,Celine Dion,Toni Braxton,etc… Said about Mariah carey : “ Mariah Carey is the discovery of the Century even of the Millennium as artist”.
    Others critics said : “ Her high notes are so exceptional and so amazing ! “
    “As a Whitney Houston clone,Mariah is very well skilfull,her vocal range is much more extensible and her vocal runs are more complexes than Whitney’s”
    Simon Cowell ,Musical Expert and Musical talent Judge said : “To sing a Whitney Houston song is very hard,but to sing a Mariah Carey song is a vocal suicide ! “
    In the 2003 edition of The Guinness Book of World Records, set for a March 2003 release date, pop-diva MARIAH CAREY scores still another title. According to Guinness officials, the siren’s ethereal pipes hold the record for having hit the highest note in the history of recorded music. In a live rendition of “The Star-Spangled Banner” in 2002, Mariah hit a G7#-note, outdoing even the piano. Technically, the exertion of G7#-notes is “dolphin speak,” since, in theory, these are the only mammals physiologically equipped with the proper lung-structure to produce G7#-notes. So powerful are G7#-notes that these are capable of countering water and electric currents, and have even been known to outdistance space and range. In the world, Carey is the only other living creature to have ever generated a G7#-note. Clinically, Mariah’s voice is termed a medical wonder.
    Sources:
    (BBC News, Mariahdaily.com)
    Even if there is another woman which beats this record recently,Carey is the first holder of this record

    But the “altisisima” Carey is no stranger to the Guinness Book, as the songbird is titleholder to dozen other titles. Correlating to Carey’s latest record, in a back edition of the Guinness Book, Carey is credited with possessing a 7-octave range, meaning she is able to go from an A2 (eight full-scaled keys below the lowest possible note on a piano) to a G7#-note without deviating from perfect pitch and all in the time-span of one breath. Behind vocal wonder Carey, who still goes un-championed, are Yma Sumac, ringing in at 5 octaves, and the late Minnie Riperton, with 4.5 octaves.
    IT’S SO GREAT !!!!! MARIAH IS MORE THAN A LEGEND !!!
    Mariah Carey voice is more than Diamond! Have you ever listen The wind and Bliss ? or the Mariah carey’s version of Silent Night? Believe me ,You should do ! When I listen Emotions in 1991,I was so surprised and so astonish ! cause nobody wasn’t never imagine that human voice could reach this level of vocal range and power.It’s was so higher and so powerfull! at the same time amazing, magnifificent and so incredible! Since this time, Mariah became my favorite singer and I listen her songs everyday. Mariah Carey songs send me to heavens and make me feel so good! What we could imagine better than Hero,Forever,Love takes time,Fantasy,Dreamlover,Can’t let go,Vision of love, Always be my baby or Without you? Mariah Carey is really the best singer of all times,all her songs prove it.Moreover,she’s so talentuous, succesfull, beautiful and sexy.She combine beauty,talent ,grace and sexyness perfectly.No one wasn’t, ain’t and will never be able to sing her songs ( Make it happen, Love takes times, All in your Mind, You’re so cold, Forever, Can’t Let go,Dreamlover,Anytime you need a friend,Underneath the Stars,Fantasy,Butterfly,Whenever you call, Bliss, Against all odds,Loverboy,Fourth Of July,My saving Grace, Fly Like a bird, Through the rain,I want to know what love is, Migrate,If it’s over , Mine again,I’ll be lovin’you long time,We belong together,All I want for Christmas is You, etc… ).Till today,Mariah still technically and artistically the best singer ever,besides her voice also still unbeatable.Whatever say haters,Mariah is a legend alive,we can’t deny it,we see it ,music got no secret for Mariah. She’s a true Music Icon and she influence so many artists… Sometimes I asked myself what would be Music worldwide without Mariah Carey ‘s contribution ? Mariah Carey is the best,she blow away Whitney Houston,Barbra Streisand,Celine Dion, Aretha Franklin,Toni Braxton, Madonna ,Cher,Tina Turner,etc…,No doubt,Mariah’s contributions in music are huge.The most obvious is her revolution of Pop music by her 1995 release Fantasy remix with the rapper Old Dirty Bastard.She continue to amaze people by her phenomenal voice and her incredible talent on singing all musical genres. No doubt,Mariah is a living legend! Mariah Carey still give voice to our age and make us feel so proud and so higher !!! It’s not for nothing that Medias,Musical Experts and Music Lovers around the World Call Mariah Carey , THE VOICE,THE QUEEN OF R&B,THE QUEEN OF POWERFUL BALLADS, THE BEST SINGER OF ALL TIMES AND THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  143. Michel 76 says:

    why has she sold less than Madonna?

  144. TO Michel 76 says:

    Michel : you asked why did Mariah sold less records than Madonna ? I am happy to answer your question ! There are many reasons . It’s because
    1-Madonna got most active years than Mariah.Madonna’s musical career started in 1983 whereas Mariah’s started in 1990.So Madonna had an advantage of 7 professional years over Mariah.
    2-Madonna have most releases than Mariah ( Madonna has 22 releases,Mariah has 18 releases ).
    3-Madonna made only Pop albums,and as we know,Pop is the most successful musical genre worldwide,whereas Mariah released much more R&B releases than Pop releases.In facts, in spite of her big success in Pop music since her debut,Mariah chose in 1997 to sing another musical genre ( R&B and Hip Hop ) which are much less successful worldwide ( Can we imagine if Mariah made only Pop albums ? I am sure that she would have at least 4 others albums which would surpass 20 million sales worldwide.So Mariah would be the best selling female artist ).
    4-Madonna toured since her debut album,and always tours worldwide for promoting the sales of her albums,whereas Mariah begun to tour only since her 4th album and in a few countries in spite of her huge success .Mariah chose voluntary to don’t promote her albums by tours and many concerts.So the sales of her albums were not promoted as well as Madonna’s.
    5- Madonna is the first woman to use blatant sexuality which was viewed by all of the world,for giving a boost to her record sales and for getting famous faster and easier.She also relayed much more on her image to reach a wide medium…,whereas Mariah never used her image nor eccentricities and other marketing tricks for promote her sales.All she always use to amaze people are her extraordinary voice and her artistical creativity.

  145. MIchel 76 says:

    When Madonna had her sexuality time, she did not sell much albums!
    Look at Erotica!
    Mariah is not able to entertain people like Madonna!
    Madonna released albums of almost all genres, unlike Mariah, who released only RnB, Hip Hop stuff..

  146. phalanger says:

    i agree with all the Mariah’s fan…she is so amazing…though I’m now 21…but I enjoy to hear her first single until now…though patti labelle have the great belting but Mariah have the powerful whistle belting….which can beat patti…BUT I LOVE MARIAH AND PATTI….THE GREATEST!!!

  147. phalanger says:

    i;m from borneo…sabah malaysia…im so so so obsessed with Mariah…fanatic one

  148. Fijisweetheart says:

    Well I am from Fiji Island… I only heard of Mariah Carey and Whitney as the best singers of All time.. Most of Madonna’s song are banned in my country…To be honest….

  149. Michel 76 says:

    And this is unfair!

  150. The Roof says:

    I think Mariah is the number one selling female artist of all time. A lot of Madonna fans on the internet will quote Guinness Book of Records and say its Madonna, but I’ve always wondered why interviews even recent 2009 ones (eg. Letterman and Ellen Degeneres) always introduce her as the best selling artist of all time. It got me thinking.. that I’d trust RIAA, the music industry more on these sort of matters than Guinness. Madonna looks like someone who’d pay Guinness to publish that lol.

  151. Blaise says:

    I agree with The Roof.Mariah is the real best selling female artist of all times.Everything prove that.

  152. MOFF says:

    Who are you?
    People from another planet ?
    I think you both really should READ THE DEBATE “Madonna vs. Mariah Carey” before saying anything!

    Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times!

    Calculate it.. I just can say it again..

  153. Blaise says:

    Maybe Madonna is The Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times.But Mariah Carey is The Best Female Artist Of All Times,don’t deny it.

  154. MOFF says:

    yeah, I don’t deny it, she is!
    But first read, before you’re saying Mariah is the best selling …

  155. phalanger says:

    MOFF you are just stupid….for the millennium awards…mariah and MJ won it….did Madonna won on that time????surely its rumors towards Madonna…madonna just use her sexual strategy…where is her vocally capability???

  156. MOFF says:

    To phalanger:

    You said I was stupid ?
    Sorry, but now I realyl have to you that YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS STUPID and totally UNINFORMED!
    Check out the album and single figures of Madonna and Mariah Carey.
    Mariah won that kind of awards – but is it relevant ? No, Most people consider Madonna as the best selling female artist of all time.
    Check them out and prove that Mariah is the best selling, give me a list !
    Besides: The sales- topic doesn’t belong to this theme here, we should discuss in the “best selling artist” theme…
    BTW, I think you didn’t read the “Madonna vs. Mariah ” debate, because WE (eg. Martha, Meredith, me …)
    already citated Madonna as the biggest selling female artist of all time, and we’re looking for the top ten list right now.
    Read that debate and then tell me your opinion…
    READ it carefully, and you’ll realize that Mariah is NOT the best selling female artist of all time !
    It’s Madonna..

  157. Alex T says:

    MARIAH IS THE BEST!

    Not only in USA but also in New Zealand, Mariah Carey has had more number ones that Madonna! Mariah Carey is the female artist with the most number ones! 7 vs. 5!

  158. MOFF says:

    What about the UK ? 13 vs. 3?
    France?
    Germany?
    whole Europe?

    Brazil?
    Australia?
    Mexico?
    Canada?

    Who had more hits ?

    Is it really Mariah ?

  159. samanticx says:

    BOTTOMLINE:

    1. MARIAH CAN’T SING ANYMORE. IT’S BEEN YEARS SINCE SHE REALLY WAS ABLE TO BELT! She’s now a MESS!

    HEY, she NEVER DID SING!! ALL she did was VOCALIZE!

    2. MARIAH’S ALBUMS HAVE BEEN FLOPPING ONE AFTER ANOTHER. She can’t sell anymore.

    3. MARIAH is NOT A SIGNIFICANT ARTIST, MERELY A COMMERCIAL ONE. NO ONE WILL REMEMBER her years from now.

    4. MARIAH HAS NO MASTERPIECE ALBUM

    5. Mariah is NOT a CULTURAL ICON. In any and ALL icons lists, she’s either at the far bottom or does not appear at all! And with good reason: she has such an insignificant impact culturally, socially, artistically!

    6. Mariah has NEVER been a GLOBAL STAR! HER WORLD CHARTS achievements have been next to ZERO. She has a certified DISMAL GLOBAL TRACK RECORD NOT ONLY as a recording star but more so as a “PERFORMER”. She’s just a LOCAL STAR

    7. Mariah’s “Artist of the Millennium” from the World Music Award was REALLY NOT FOR HER. The award was slated for Madonna but Madonna REFUSED TO ACCEPT THE AWARD so Mariah came in merely as a SPARE TIRE RECIPIENT!

    8. Mariah is QUEEN OF THE PAYOLA & REPRESSION TACTICS. Many of her so called Billboard #1s are a product of FRAUD! That’s why those songs are FORGOTTEN.

    9. Mariah is one of the most TALENTLESS stage performers EVER. SHE’S SIMPLY A DISASTER on stage! It was bad during times when she still had her “voice”, now it’s exponentially WORSE when she can’t sing anymore! What is she supposed to do onstage, just stand there, pretend to sing and LET THE AUDIENCE SING THE HARD PARTS, and look funny wearing skimpy clothes that make her look like a bursting sausage?? LOL

    And lastly to @The Roof, Mariah’s being introduced in talk shows as the “biggest selling blah blah” because her management DEMANDS such silly & untrue intros to make her feel good! Mariah LIVES for the charts!

    There really is NO way around the FACT that Guinness and IFPI both say that Madonna is the BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST IN THE WORLD, while the RIAA says that Madonna is the 2nd Biggest Selling Female in the US after Barbra Streisand– and take note, many of Madonna’s albums have NOT been certified for years and even DECADES!

    And there is no getting around the fact that in list after list after list, Madonna is ranked as THE GREATEST FEMALE MUSIC ICON OF ALL TIME and one of the TRUE GREATS AND GIANTS IN MUSIC AND OVERALL ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.

    Mariah is SIMPLY NO MATCH. She’s NOT WORTHY to be compared to the Queen.

    Perhaps Mariah fans can start comparing her now only to Christina Aguilera. Both of them are SCREAMERS.

    THERE.

    10. Her “pregnancy rumors” PR is BEYOND DESPERATE. Ugh!

  160. STACY says:

    Samanticx,everything you say here is your hating opinion,nothing more.We can’t expect that a Mariah hater like you could say objective satements and truth ! But everything already proves that you lie in ALL you said ! People are not stupids,samanticx,the truth is obvious to everyone ! Mariah is the greatest female artist of all times,and her work is very respected and acclaimed everywhere worldwide ! Do you know why ? It’s because she’s a true artist,which make music not for money or for success but for expressing and share what she have inside herself !Artist doesn’t mean just huge success and impressive amount of money grossed ,it’s more than that !Anyway, Your lies will change anything at that !
    Moff : Millennium Award is relevant ! Mariah has sold more than 140-150 million albums in 2000,Madonna has sold less than this amount ( 120 million )! Therefore,the Millennium Award was validate ,no matter if people considered it irrelevant or not,this change nothing for the fact and the truth ! ( Moreover,people considered it as validate cause in every country,and every medias,in all TV shows,magazines,etc…always claimed Mariah the Best selling female artist of all times ,at these times !
    Besides,facts prove that every people who believed in the so-called 338 million albums sold by Madonna at these times were WRONG as Guinness claim 200 million sold for 2011 !
    You see that opinion of people,whether they’re constitute the majority or not,is not important ! What is important is the truth !
    But these questions were already settled many times. Besides,Mariah is the best Female artist of all times,and that’s what matters !

  161. MARIAH THE BEST says:

    REAL BIGGEST DIVA!

    September 19th, 2010 at 4:20 am
    Yeah, I think this “list” or “calculation” is pretty right!
    That’s the way we should recognize an artist!
    But.. You have to equalize the points for every “Success, Talent, archievements”…
    Not Madonna ->10 and then Mariah 9,5 and Celine 5 …

    SUCCESS:
    Albums sales:
    Madonna -> 10
    Mariah -> 9,5
    Celine -> 9
    Whitney -> 8,5

    Singles sales:
    Madonna-> 10
    Mariah -> 9,5
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 8,5

    Concert ticket sales:
    Madonna -> 10
    Celine 9,5
    Whitney-> 9
    Mariah -> 8,5

    More successful Tours:
    Madonna -> 10
    Celine -> 9,5
    Whitney -> 9
    Mariah 8,5

    Hits worldwide:
    Madonna-> 10
    Mariah -> 9,5
    Whitney-> 9
    Celine -> 8,5

    Popularity :
    Madonna -> 10
    Mariah -> 9,5
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 8,5
    Results for Success: Madonna scores 60 points, Mariah scores 55 points, Celine scores 53,5 points, Whitney scores 54 points. Madonna wins in success

    TALENT :
    Voice quality:
    Mariah -> 10
    Whitney -> 9,5
    Celine -> 9
    Madonna -> 8,5

    Sing Skills:
    Mariah -> 10
    Whitney -> 9,5
    Celine -> 9
    Madonna -> 8,5

    Diversity of musical genres:
    Mariah-> 10
    Madonna-> 9,5
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 8,5

    Part in the making of music:
    Mariah -> 10
    Madonna-> 9,5
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 8,5

    Dance and choreographical annexation:
    Mariah -> 10
    Madonna-> 9
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 9,5

    Entertaining:
    Madonna -> 10
    Mariah -> 8,5
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 9,5

    Musical/Artistical mark, Originality & creativity: Mariah-> 10
    Whitney -> 9,5
    Celine-> 9
    Madonna -> 8,5
    Results for Talent : Mariah scores 67 points, Whitney scores 64,5 points, Celine scores 63 points, Madonna scores 65 points. So Mariah wins in Talent

    ACHIEVEMENTS
    Larger amount of prestigious Records:
    Mariah -> 10
    Madonna -> 10
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 8,5

    Impact & Contribution on Music:
    Mariah-> 10
    Madonna-> 9,5
    Celine -> 9
    Whitney -> 8,5

    Musical/Artistic Influence:
    Mariah-> 10
    Whitney -> 9,5
    Madonna -> 9
    Celine -> 8,5

    More Impressive Amount of Fullfilments:
    Mariah-> 10
    Madonna -> 10
    Whitney -> 9
    Celine -> 8,5
    Results for Achievements:
    Mariah scores 39,5 points Whitney scores 36 points Madonna scores 39 points, Celine scores 34,5 points. Mariah wins.

    Therefore
    Mariah Carey: Success = 55
    Talent = 68
    Achievements = 40
    Mariah’s Global points : 164

    Madonna Success = 60
    Talent = 63,5
    Achievements = 38
    Madonna’s global points: 162,5

    Whitney Houston
    Success = 54
    Talent = 64,5
    Achievements = 36
    Whitney’s global points: 154,5

    Celine Dion
    Success = 53,5
    Talent = 63
    Achievements = 34,5
    Celine global’s points = 151

    Look: If we have a constant number of point distance we eventually have a bigger clarity of the different artists!
    Mariah is the best !

  162. REAL DIVA says:

    Ceoreographical annexation?
    Mariah 10?
    Have you ever seen Mariah dancing on shows or music videos?

    Madonna -> 10
    Mariah -> 8,5!

    Diversity?
    Madonna has as numerous genres as Mariah.. maybe even more..
    Madonna –> 10!

    Contribution?

    Madonna -> 10
    Mariah -> 10!

  163. MARIAH IS THE BEST FEMALE ARTIST says:

    I remember the first time I heard Vision of Love from Mariah Carey in 1990,everyone was so astonished and asked,Who is it ???? Whitney Houston ? Answer: No ! But what an exceptional and beautiful voice!
    Beyonce Knowles said the first time she heard Vision Of Love by Mariah in 1990,she knew she wanted to be a singer.
    Wanya Morris (lead singer of Boyz II Men ) said that Vision Of Love is AMAZING & INCREDIBLE .Rihanna also said the same.
    Backstreet Boys,Justin Timberlake,Christina Aguilera,Alicia Keys,Kelly Clarckson,Jessica Simpson,Leona Lewis,etc….all claimed that Mariah Carey has an influence on their respective musics .
    MARIAH ALSO INFLUENCES JENNIFER lOPEZ,BEYONCE,Justin Timberlake,ETC… ON A DIFFERENT WAY, BY HER POP FEATURING HIP HOP SONGS !
    Christina Aguilera said she would love to have a voice like Mariah Carey.
    T. Field and research team discovered that Vision of Love has physiological and biochemical positive effects on depressed female adolescents.
    Songwriter and Producer Walter Afanasieff who usually worked with many great artists as : Michael Bolton,Mariah carey,Celine Dion,Toni Braxton,etc… Said about Mariah Carey : “ Mariah Carey is the discovery of the Century, even of the Millennium as artist”.
    Others critics said : “ Her high notes are so exceptional and so amazing ! “
    “Her voice is really unique !Besides,she do what she want with her voice !There is not many other singers who can as much !“
    Mariah is the best singer ever,she got everything over her rivals : success,voice,talent,achievements ! She’s really the best female artist !
    DON LAWRENCE( vocal coach ) : When Mariah started to sing ,I said “ this girl will reach higher than any other artist !!! “
    Unknown : this Pop singer is very very important !!
    FAT JOE ( rapper ) : She’s like a vocal cloud which push you in the dream world
    MTV’s narrator : Whether it’s her 5 octaves…or her Soul voice or its indescribable chimings you feel when she hit her high notes,Mariah’s voice inspired and still inspire every music lovers everywhere worldwide !!!
    TOURE ( Rolling Stones ) : When I think of Mariah,I think about the time she hit her high notes and she go high,and higher ,and higher once more ….!!!
    SHANI SAXON ( Vibe Magazine ) : She ( Mariah Carey ) give a lot of herself in her songs,she’s very emotional in her songs !!!
    TOURE ( Rolling Stone ) She’s one of greatest singers of the world, the word SINGER took literally
    Missy Elliott : Mariah Carey is a perfectionist, that’s why her songs are all perfect !
    Lisa Lopes ( Lead of girl band TLC ) : We have Hip Hop thanks to Mariah Carey .
    Simon Cowell : : To sing a Whitney Houston somg is very ard,but to sing a Mariah Carey song is a vocal suicide !
    Unknown : She sing s with so much virtuosity ,She’s a true vocal virtuose !

    “As a Whitney Houston clone,Mariah is very well skilfull but her vocal range is much more extensible ,besides her vocal runs are more complexes than Whitney’s”
    Simon Cowell ,Musical Expert and Musical talent Judge said : “To sing a Whitney Houston song is very hard,but to sing a Mariah Carey song is a vocal suicide ! “
    Mariah Carey voice is more than Diamond! Have you ever listen The Wind,Vanishing and Bliss ? Or the Mariah carey’s version of Silent Night and O Holy Night ? Believe me ,You should do ! When I listen Emotions in 1991,I was so surprised and so astonish ! cause nobody wasn’t never imagine that human voice could reach this level of vocal range and power.It’s was so higher and so powerfull! at the same time amazing, magnifificent and so incredible! Till today ,there is any singer who could offer a song as much amazing,beautiful as Emotions ! There is any song with so much virtuosity,grace,allure,feminity,energy,beauty …Since this time, Mariah became my favorite singer and I listen her songs everyday. Mariah Carey songs send me to heavens and make me feel so good! What we could imagine better than Hero,Forever,Love takes time,Fantasy,Dreamlover,Can’t let go,Vision of love, Always be my baby or Without you? Mariah Carey is really the best singer of all times,all her songs prove it.Moreover,Mariah combine beauty,talent ,grace and sexyness perfectly.She’s a perfect artiat ! If Mariah wasn’t born,people should create her ,cause we can’t imagine the world lacking of her music,of her genius,her so particular voice and talent !
    It will take centuries,maybe much more before that the world could produce a such musical genius and vocal phenomenon !
    Contrary to many other artists,Mariah is a BORN-SINGER !She’S not an improvised artist,she’s a true artist !
    Mariah has everything to be an exceptional singer : great talent,very exceptional and beautiful voice, exceptional great skills for sing . No one wasn’t, ain’t and will never be able to sing her songs ( Make it happen, Love takes times, All in your Mind, You’re so cold, Forever, Can’t Let go,Dreamlover,Anytime you need a friend,Underneath the Stars,Fantasy,Butterfly,Whenever you call, Bliss, Against all odds,Loverboy,Fourth Of July,My saving Grace, Fly Like a bird, Through the rain,I want to know what love is, Migrate,If it’s over , Mine again,I’ll be lovin’you long time,We belong together,All I want for Christmas is You, etc… ).Till today,Mariah still technically and artistically the best singer ever,besides her voice also still unbeatable.Whatever say haters,Mariah is a legend alive,we can’t deny it,we see it ,music got no secret for Mariah. She’s a true Music Icon and she influence so many artists… Sometimes I ask myself what would be Music worldwide without Mariah Carey ‘s contribution ? Mariah Carey is the best,she blow away Whitney Houston,Barbra Streisand,Celine Dion, Aretha Franklin,Toni Braxton, Madonna ,Cher,Tina Turner,etc…,No doubt,Mariah’s contributions in music are huge.The most obvious is her revolution of Pop music by her 1995 release Fantasy remix with the rapper Old Dirty Bastard.She continue to amaze people by her phenomenal voice and her incredible talent on singing all musical genres. No doubt,Mariah is a living legend!Haters can say what they want,but this will change nothing to the facts which make of Mariah Carey THE BEST SINGER EVER ! Mariah Carey still give voice to our age and make us feel so proud and so higher !!! It’s not for nothing that Medias,Musical Experts and Music Lovers around the World Call Mariah Carey , THE VOICE,THE QUEEN OF R&B,THE QUEEN OF POWERFUL BALLADS, THE BEST SINGER OF ALL TIMES AND THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  164. samanticx says:

    OMG. Watsup with the lambs’ INCESSANT DELUSIONS? Or with that stupid computations?

    And watsup with the astigmatism-causing block writing??

    OMG.

    And WHOEVER considers Michael Bolton as a “GREAT ARTIST” has SURELY LOST ANY AND ALL CREDIBILITY in saying what is good! Like, wtf!

    OMG.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Seriously, Madonna is LIGHT YEARS AHEAD AND BEYOND Mariah as both an artist and star.

    Madonna has a FAR GREATER variety or scope of musical output and influence.

    Madonna has exploded ELECTRONICA to the mainstream and her electronica works have been totemic classics. (Mariah hasn’t done electronica)

    Madonna has done a highly influential BIG BAND SOUND album (w/c Christina copied with her “..Basics” effort)

    Madonna has done BROADWAY via her Sondheim & Evita works (and Mariah is reportedly doing one.. oh, well..)

    Madonna has done TRIP HOP (Mariah hasn’t)

    Madonna was AHEAD in doing RnB

    Madonna was AHEAD in doing HIP HOP even before Mariah dreamed of pumping up her breasts like balloons! (check out Madonna’s collaboration with Tupac Shakur)

    Madonna was FIRST of ANY major pop star to do Spanish/Latin sounds in many of their variations

    Madonna was FIRST to incorporate Middle Eastern sound to her work (Mariah hasn’t,obviously)

    Madonna was FIRST to incorporate Semitic sounds (Mariah hasn’t, obviously)

    So, Madonna is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Mariah in doing WORLD MUSIC (well, no wonder since Madonna is a true blue GLOBAL star while Mariah is just.. LOCAL)

    Madonna is the absolute master of pure pop (dance and pop ballads)

    So.. to say that Mariah has a greater contribution to or diversity in music is PURE IGNORANT WISHFUL THINKING DRIVEL.

    Mariah fans, EDUCATE yourselves!

    And Madonna CERTAINLY have BETTER MUSIC. And I’m TALKIN’ ABOUT MUSIC.

    4 of Madonna’s albums are in Rolling Stones Greatest Albums list, more than ANY female artist, while Mariah has NONE.

    Time Magazine named Like A Prayer the BEST album of 1989, thus one of their All- Time Greatest 100 list. Mariah has NONE.

    The book 500 Essential Albums include THREE Madonna albums as essentials with only one (if not NONE at all!) from Mariah.

    The book 1000 Albums to Own Before You Die has MORE Madonna albums than ANY female artist. Mariah? zzzz LOL

    Slant, Vibe, and ALL major music chroniclers ALL rank Madonna’s work way GREATER and BETTER than Mariah’s.

    Madonna’s singles/songs FREQUENTLY appear in the top ranks of the Best of 25 Years and “All Time” rankings in any and more genres, more than any woman artist. Mariah? zzzz..

    So as a MUSIC ARTIST, Madonna is TOO MUCH for Mariah to just match let alone surpass.

    MADONNA IS QUEEN OF MUSIC.

  165. samanticx says:

    On this post let’s discuss WHY Mariah is NOT a music force but merely a (formerly) commercial one.

    First, as established, Mariah has NO enduring MASTERPIECE album. Some have got very good reviews and notices, yet somehow they FAIL to cross over to MASTERPIECE level the way Madonna’s albums have. Blame this to Mariah’s penchant for cliched lyrics and syrupy ballads powered by over-the-top vocalizations, and umpteenth repetitions of the “formula that works”.

    Her move from pop gospel to hip hop was also derided as a transparent attempt at gaining “street cred” to the detriment of REALLY making good music. She kept insisting she’s BLACK! So, PLEASE PEOPLE, BELIEVE HER!!! LOL. Her overuse of rent-a-rappers also clouded her music. Her later works also rely heavily on chasing that RADIO-FRIENDLY sound that gave her radio success making her product sound repetitive, bland, and timid.

    Another thing that clouds Mariah’s music is her OBSESSION to amass #1s like it’s her life! She rather infamously, with the whispered machinations of Benny Medina, resorted to some shady tactics at getting them #1s: radio payolas and download repressions. So people have begun to suspect why many of her tuneless, even sh**ty, songs have become #1. That’s GOT to hurt credibility.

    Mention her #1s and many in and out of the music industry just ROLL their eyes and snicker..

    So, she’s not selling anymore. She needs once more to return to things that worked before.

    Sure enough, Mariah is now doing her nth Christmas album!! LOL

    Too bad for her, Susan Boyle’s similar effort has just BLOWN Mariah’s off the water right from the start. SuBo’s “The Gift” is already #1 in Amazon pre-orders. Mimi following the Streisand tactic of selling through HSN and Amazon remains to be seen if it’s going to bring success. And it has lots of freebies and bonuses! Oy!

    But, surely, aren’t you tired of Mariah’s desperate gambits for sales? Isn’t her “pregnancy” ploy running for more than 2 years now? WHEN IS SHE SPILLING HER POOR PHANTOM BABY *whom* her camp slyly “accuses” for having her tummy go rotund on her and, also, instead of igniting her poor lambs into a twitter tizzy over a… DOG?! Dang, THAT was HILARIOUS! LOL

    Oh, well….

    Oh, btw.. going back to rent-a-rapper thing..

    How can the Fantasy remix be “revolutionary” when there was NOTHING about it that was new or revolutionary?? Coz of the RAPPER rapping while she warbles about being in heaven with her boyfriend? LOL

    Back in ’94, Madonna collaborated on a rNb/hiphop song with Tupac Shakur wherein he rapped in between and even during some sung verses. Shakur was replaced by NdegeOcello in the final song. So Madonna did it AHEAD. Heck, even in Blond Ambition Tour, a rapper rapped an intro to Madonna singing a remixed “Causing A Commotion”

    As to remixes, ha, Madonna’s You Can Dance EP was the FIRST FULL REMIX ALBUM by ANY major solo star and it proved a HIT. She’s AHEAD again!

  166. samanticx says:

    NOW, let’s go to CHARTS (Mariah’s REASON FOR BEING! LOL), and since Madonna is ALREADY Billboard’s #2 Greatest Singles Artist of All Time, RIAA’s 2nd Biggest Certified Female Albums Artist of All Time after Streisand(considering that most of her albums are WAY OVERDUE for certifications), and Guinness Records’ Biggest Selling Female Artist of All Time.. I’d go with another charts that is not that talked about but is perhaps MORE IMPORTANT THAN BILLBOARD (& it DOES include Billboard performance in it points system!): The..

    UNITED WORLD CHARTS. And here, MADONNA IS SUPREME, mirroring her GLOBAL SUPREMACY.

    3rd Greatest Artist of All Time (behind Elvis and Beatles.. based on points)

    Greatest Singles Artist of All Time, male or female
    Greatest Female Albums Artist of All Time

    Most #1 singles of all time, male or female (15– with some 80s/90s songs yet to be tallied for points! So expect MORE.. Mariah? 2)

    Most Top 10 singles of all time, male or female (30, and counting, since many 80s/90s points are not yet done!)

    Most #1 albums of All Time, male or female

    Most Weeks @ #1 around the World, male or female

    Album #1 in MOST COUNTRIES (41)

    Song #1 in MOST COUNTRIES (45)

    Most chart appearances of any artist

    TWICE #1-2 at the same time in the singles charts. Twice her own #1 is replaced by another of her own song. Has three top 10s (w/ one #1) at the SAME time in the singles charts

    2 Top Songs of the Year, more than ANY other, all of whom with just one each.

    And in another GLOBAL charts,

    The World’s Music Charts (not UWC), Madonna is the TOP 8 Charting artist of all time and the top Female.

    She’s the Top 4 Greatest Albums chart act (highest female) and Top 3 Greatest Song chart act (again, highest female).. #2 Artist (behind Elvis) with the most #1 entries of both albums and songs. And the top Female artist with the most years as #1 singles artist of the year.

    #1 Charting Artist of the 90s
    #2 Charting Artist of the 80s(behind Prince), and
    #3 Charting Artist of the 2000s (behind Eminem & Robbie Williams)

    ETC. ETC.

    Mariah CANNOT keep up!

    MADONNA, QUEEN OF THE GLOBAL CHARTS!

    WHEW!

    MADONNA, QUEEN OF THE GLOBAL CHARTS!

  167. samanticx says:

    Let’s go to singing! Yup this is supposed to be Mariah’s ACE, right?

    Well.. NOT so fast! LOL

    Mariah has (or better yet, HAD) a GREAT VOICE, but really she wasn’t much of a singer as she was a VOCALIST.

    Yes, Mariah is a GREAT VOCALIST, with one of the widest known range of voice among divas and with a “whistle” register to boot. Too bad that she employs her talent on WOWING audience with what she can do with her voice rather than REALLY SING.

    Singing is MORE than just busting your throat in song and reaching *THAT* impossible note; it’s about conveying and expressing an idea, an emotion, a truth within the singer’s and hearer’s existences and frames of mind. Singing is communication. And if we go by the aforementioned description of singing, Mariah is NOT the singer to listen to. Barbra Streisand and perhaps Aretha Franklin ARE THE GOLD STANDARDS in singing that Mariah, for all her vocal powers, hasn’t quite managed to achieve, let alone SET.

    What’s the problem with Mariah? Well her strength proves to be her undoing. She has such VOCAL TALENT that she was swallowed by it: She had to scream when all is needed is to belt; she had to rapid-fire her notes when all is needed is a simple note transition. In other words, Mariah OVERDOES her singing.

    I tell you, if people were moved by her singing, it’s not because she communicates feelings or ideas well but because her VOICE is just a magnificent athlete. They are just carried by the swells of her vocals. A BIG difference to being carried away by the felt “truths” one can get from the song and the singing.

    Alas, MANY of her fans mistake having great vocal abilities as being THE SAME as being a great SINGER.

    Madonna wins again! Why? ‘Coz even if she doesn’t have a STRONG voice with great timbre (and she often croaks her voice live LOL), she KNOWS what singing is. Some of her ballads have MORE soul and feeling to them than just about ANY bombastic ballad Mariah has done. As one writer once remarked, Madonna has one of the most emphatic voices, not a good vocalist, but a great singer. So true!

    And singing LIVE. Wow. A big difference between Madonna and Mariah.

    Check this out (in its entirety):

    youtube.com/watch?v=OJasC-E2fy8

    You can FEEL what Madonna is singing; you can feel the FIRE; you are taken in by her PASSION, by her regret, her sense of defeat; she COMMUNICATES

    Now watch any Live performance by Mariah, and all you see and hear is her standing (or dancing awkwardly) trying to WOW you with her vocals.

    Singing?

    Mariah has a LOT to learn from Madonna.

  168. samanticx says:

    Now lets go and expand our horizons.. Though our discussion of both Madonna and Mariah revolves around music as they are both mainly music stars, it’s also good to see other aspects of their career and life to highlight how comparatively diverse their careers or interests are and how broad their achievements are also..

    PRODUCING

    Has Mariah PRODUCED any successful movie or TV film NOT involving her career as singer? NO.

    Madonna executive produced several movies (including the hit Agent Cody Banks series), TV movies, her own documentaries and her first independent film

    ACTING

    Madonna won the WORST ACTRESS awards more times (LOL) and has a lot of stinkers, but at least she has HUGE movies whose credits go to her like Evita (she won a Golden Globe Best Actress) and the cult classic Desperately Seeking Susan. She was one of the best reviewed in Dick Tracy and got good acting notice from the NYTimes for her acting in the dud arthouse movie Snake Eyes.

    Mariah had her worst actress award for Glitter and had her short moment (and minor award) in Precious (though her fans delude themselves thinking it was HER movie! hahaha). But Mariah has NOTHING major.

    PUBLISHING

    Wow, NO CONTEST!
    Madonna’s expensive Sex Book, which went to #1 in the New York Times Overall Bestseller list, is one of the most successful– and memorable– coffee table books of all time, and is listed as one of the most in demand out of print books ever.

    Madonna’s Children’s books have also been very successful. English Roses went to #1 in the NY Times Children’s Bestseller list for 9 weeks! It’s also THE MOST TRANSLATED CHILDREN’S BOOK IN HISTORY in over 100 languages! Two more of the series went #1 and others in the Top 10! Wow.

    Mariah? NONE.

    SCREENPLAY/WRITING

    Madonna has written the screenplay for her latest movie, her major directorial effort W.E.
    She also wrote the screenplay for her first directed movie, Filth and Wisdom. She wrote for her documentary I Am Because We Are.

    Mariah? NONE.

    DIRECTING

    Mariah has directed (laughable) music video(s) and that’s it.
    Madonna has garnered some praise (and some criticism) for her first movie directorial effort (Filth and Wisdom).. She has just finished the shoot for her new major movie (W.E.) and is now busy EDITING it. She has also directed COMMERCIALS like the one for her own H&M collection which got some praise. She also directed (but secretly since she’s not endorsing the line) another edgy fashion campaign for TV. For her latest fashion venture, The Material Girl line, Madonna “directed” and photographed the campaign herself with Taylor Momsen as the model.

    DESIGNING

    Madonna co-designed her H&M line and the new Material girl Line for Macy’s. (though I myself believe that while she DID design some elements, most creative input were done by others with her mostly approving or not approving the designs).. btw, Macy’s recent financial statement credited the Material girl Line for improving SALES! WOW… She also co-designed the eyewear for the MDG (madonna-dolce&gabbana) line.

    Madonna also designed many of her own outfits during the early years with Maripol’s help..

    Mariah?… ??? LOL

    MODELING

    Madonna recently is HOT as model. She just did TWO major Louis Vuitton campaigns and is now still doing her stunning Dolce and Gabbanna campaign (playing the HOT Italian mama). She’s clearly raking in MILLIONS for these ventures!.. She had done runway walk for her friend Gaultier in the 90s.

    Mariah is modeling her fragrances! LOL

    ART INSTALLATION MODEL/SUBJECT/AESTHETIC COLLABORATOR

    Madonna collaborated with photog Steven Klein for the blockbuster avant-garde, disturbing, and utterly mesmerizing video art installation Xtatic Proc=ss in the Deitch gallery.

    Mariah?.. NONE.

    RUNNING A LABEL AND SHEPHERDING OTHER ARTISTS’ SUCCESS

    Madonna ran Maverick (til she sold her shares) the MOST successful “Vanity” music label in history, racking up Billions in Sales and making famous artists like Alanis Morissette, Michelle Branch, and handled others like Prodigy, etc. Through it, she also oversaw movie and TV-developments!

    Mariah? .. NEVER

    MAJOR PARTY CIRCUIT POWER HOSTESS

    Madonna orchestrated the BLOCKBUSTER Spring ’08 Fashion Week charity party for her charity (Raising Malawi) and UNICEF which became the DE FACTO Prime Fashion Week Event upstaging all, and one of the most high profile parties/events of the year! It was the FIRST TIME EVER that the UNITED NATIONS allowed its grounds to be used for such an occasion! She called and everyone clamored to come: The Cruises, Trump and family, NY’s High Society old and new, Anna Wintour and the Vogue posse, Diller and DV Furstenberg, Martha Stewart, JLo and Mark Anthony, Drew Barrymore, Jeffry Sachs, Missoni, Valentino, Tom Ford, Diddy, Russel Simmons, Marc jacobs, Hollywood and media power players, all important fashion industry people, Chris Rock, ETC.

    Madonna has also hosted the MOST SOUGHT AFTER and PRIVATE annual post-Oscars party in the last two years!

    Mariah?… NONE.

    WOW!

    She is QUEEN of Artistic (and business) Endeavors!

    But, wait, she STILL has other endeavors!

    BUSINESS

    ShE continues to run many of her business entities like Slutco Enterprises, Boy Toy Enterprises, and her music publishing house.. helping manage her empire (from music to apparel to Real Estate to other investments like internet sites, Clubs and beverages (the coconut milk drink, etc)

    BUSINESS FIRST

    Did the first EVER 360 deal with Live Nation for music distribution, tours, and merchandise

    Mariah? she has poor “360” potential for she’s NOT a touring & merchandising draw and her market is limited in terms of music..

    ADVOCACIES

    Madonna established her very active Raising Malawi Foundation that now constructs schools, clinics, irrigation, and provides much needed services to Malawi children, orphaned by AIDS. She just inaugurated the construction of her own Malawi Girls Academy!

    She continues her strong anti AIDS advocacy and now also helps EDUCATION-based initiatives. She also engages in charity events like the Haiti and Tsunami benefits, etc.

    PERSONAL ENDEAVORS

    She’s been training to be an EQUESTRIENNE and has several horses!

    Remodeling her huge newly-bought Upper East Side mansion

    She’s attending to her spirituality thru her regular Kaballah studies (which haters have wrongly been dismissing as “fad” for her ALL THESE MANY YEARS! LOL)

    And of course, her biggest, most important preoccupation is BEING A LOVING MOTHER TO HER CHILDREN!

    WHEW! SHE HAS DONE THEM ALL!!!

  169. MOFF says:

    Yeah samanticx.
    You are right in 100 % you wrote!

  170. MARIAH IS THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES says:

    No matter what you say,Mariah Carey is the best female artist of all times ! She combine all the artistical assets better than anyone else ( talent,success,achievements )! Mariah is the best anyway !

  171. MARIAH IS THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES says:

    Hi everybody !
    I’m pretty excited about Mariah’s new Christmas album ! I expect for this new Christmas album impatiently, this diva have a unique manner to remake Christmas songs ! I guess that it will be amazing and beautiful,as we already have an idea from her first Christmas album,which stay unbeatable for its quality till today !
    Who could forget her divine remake of “O Holy Night”, which any other singer had never manage to remake as sublime as her version, even not the great Whitney Houston ! Mariah masters and knows the secrets of singing better than anyone else.She accomplished so many extraordinary,incomparable and matchless musical feats !

  172. BROKEN_T says:

    Samanticx,who are you? Musical expert ? How dare you compare Mariah Carey with Madonna on talent and sing skills ? Did Madonna got songs ? Listen to me : What talent got Jenna Jameson, Alana , Sylvia Saint ? Madonna is exactly like these girls,like them,she’s a bitch not more. Madonna deserve a lot of Xrco Awards like these girls. Madonna got zero talent. Madonna got zero contribution in Music unlike Mariah.All that Madonna bring to Music is vulgarity,sex, deprivation and obscenity,nothing else.How dare you talk about soulful singer among Madonna and MC ? Moff,how can you said that Samantixc is right at 100 % ? It’s because she’s a Madonna fan like you? You know what ? you’re just haters,you’re not objective.Mariah is the queen of all artist,no question about it. Samantixc your hatred can change nothing about this fact.Can we just imagine Madonna sing the national anthem? ,Silent Night,O holy night etc… All that Madonna is able to do is shake her ass and show it to people.Like that,all her fans doesn’t hesitate to claim Madonna is the best,she sing better than Mariah and blablabla!… Don’t you get shame ? Moff you’re a coward as you already participate and many debates about Madonna and Mariah.You sucks ! LONG LIFE TO MIMI THE VOICE FOREVER AND EVER !!!!

  173. BROKEN_T says:

    This is MC who revolutionarize Pop music not Madonna. The collaboration of Madonna and Tupac was a failure and completely unknow by people,unlike Fantasy RMX.Hahahahaah! Madonna revolutionize music by her depravation and sexual scandals Hahaha!

  174. BROKEN_T says:

    Samanticx,you think you’re better than MTV,Blended Magazine,Guiness World Records,etc and some of millions of people around the world,… who listed Mariah as the best voice of all times and the greatest singer of all times ? You’re just so silly ! Pathetic loser. Madonna can compete with Alana and Jenna jameson,she will never be able to compare with Mariah on nothing .madonna is the greatst bitch of all times while MARIAH CAREY IS THE GREATEST ARTIST OF ALL TIMES !

  175. MOFF says:

    BROKEN_T:

    You are just one of these stupid people who can not recognize the real truth!
    You are just like Whoredonna or Trish – people who always want to say the real things about music, AND PEOPLE WHO INSULT ARTISTS!
    BROKEN T, be aware that your comments or statements you post here are not NOTICED much less your bad insults!

    I’ve always been honest and I NEVER INSULTED YOUR MARIAH!
    I RESPECT MARIAH AS A GREAT VOCALIST (The best at all) but I never insulted her!
    YOU – BROKEN_T — get out of here!

    I must be honest and I really have to say that samanticx is right in the statements she is posting.
    Mariah is not able to compete in case of a “business woman” AND THIS IS NOT UNTRUE!

    Madonna is EVERYTHING
    she IS NOT a great vocalist, but a singer with heart!

    You called us
    (me) coward
    Pathetic loser
    and “you sucks” (which is wrong)
    Bitch

    Have I ever called somebody names?
    DID I insult people?

    Broken_T

    you are a person who wants to be respected?

    My posts are recognized and everything I said was firstly discussed by Martha, Meredith, me, Markus and so on!

    GET OUT OF HERE

  176. STACY says:

    Mariah Carey is much better than Madonna when we talk about talent and artistry,nothing can change this !On talent ,no one can beat Mariah,and surely not Madonna ! The only rivals of Mariah on talent and sing hability are the greats Whitney Houston,Patti Labelle ,Aretha Franklin ,Barbra Streisand,etc… And Mariah even beat all of these vocalists ! Madonna is in the league of minor singers like Rihanna, Lady Gaga ,Kylie Minogue,,Britney Spears,Janet Jackson,etc..you confound success with talent .
    Madonna’s songs are also much less soulful than songs from any of these vocalists, so how much less than Mariah’s !
    You’re really ignorant when you say that Madonna is the one who communicate on singing, cause every professional singers do ! Otherwise,how they could get fans ? You’re so stupid that you think if you cannot feel a ‘connection’ when an artist sing just mean that you haven’t a taste for he’s music ! Mariah Carey communicate so much more and better than Madonna when she sing ! Madonna communicate so little that she always have the need to move or dance when she sing. Madonna is so far behind Mariah in sing hability and artistry !
    You give a silly long list of ‘Madonna was the first who …blab bla bla “.But all these “ first “ are either false,either irrelevant and useless as they hadn’t any great impact on music .
    Even if Madonna collaborated with an Hip Hop artist one year before Mariah,this collaboration wasn’t successful and stayed completely unknown,till today ,
    Mariah Carey is the one from whom every today’s artists are influenced by the style Pop featuring Hip Hop cause her collaboration was very popular and successful .Since this collaboration,Every Pop artists incorporate Hip Hop material in their works.So Mariah is the revolutionary of Pop music .Besides,since Mariah’s success in R&B and Hip Hop, R&B/Hip Hop musical genres progress and spread in USA ( and relatively through the world ); so that R&B is the current dominant musical genre in USA . Mariah is the first Pop atist to incorporate R&B sound to her work.Mariah Carey is also the first Pop female singer who Rapped in a song.Mariah is the first Pop artist to sing R&B contemporary and make R&B album !We see clearly That Mariah is better than Madonna in all this !
    And contrary to what you say,Michael Jackson is the absolute master of pure Pop,not Madonna !
    Mariah was ahead Madonna on doing R&B ,not the opposite !
    Nana Mouskouri was the FIRST of ANY major pop star to do Spanish/Latin sounds in many of their variations,not Madonna !
    MARIAH CAREY IS THE QUEEN OF MUSIC ! It’s the opinion of people worldwide,not of just a few of fanatics from UK and USA who just publish their ranks in accordance with their own personal taste ! Or just confound popularity with quality ! Everywhere worldwide ,whether Mariah is more or less successful,people considered her as much more talentful than Madonna .That’s why Mariah’s music is much more represented than Madonna’s in all talent searching competitions,everywhere worldwide ! That’s also why every really talentful wannabe singer are influenced by Mariah ,whereas every talentless wannabe singer ( who just use their image & other no-musical tactics to be successful ) , are influenced by Madonna .Now ,You see the difference ! Facts prove that Mariah is the absolute queen of music ! Why Madonna was never invited to give a memorable and soulful interpretation of the National Anthem ? Why Madonna doesn’t show this so-called “communication’ or sing skills through great classical Christmas songs like O Holy Night,Silent Night ,O Come all Ye Faithful ? Can we just imagine Madonna singing adequately O Holy Night ? Sincerily,this is who you want to compete with Mariah on singing ? Seriously,Madonna would never be able to compete with Mariah on artistry and singing ,we know it !
    Mariah Carey,Whitney Houston,Patti Labelle,Aretha Franklin,Barbra Streisand and Celine Dion are known worldwide for being the best international female SINGERS of all times,,and also the most soulful female singers .Madonna had never ranked even as one of most skilful female artist ,how she could compete with Mariah which the best singer among the best ? Madonna just can’t !
    Mariah Carey is undeniably much better than Madonna in talent,singing and artistry,

    As we see, Mariah has a greater contribution to or diversity in music . So as a MUSIC ARTIST, Mariah is TOO MUCH for Madonna to just match let alone surpass.

    Madonna is more successful live than Mariah live as an ENTERTAINER,BUT NOT AS SUCH A SINGER ! You just confound ! Mariah is unbeatable on singing,whether it’s live or in studio.Madonna dance,make choregraphical moves ,so that people can be entertained .But she couldn’t compete with Mariah if she had to “ just stand and sing “ ,like said a Madonna fan about Mariah on stage.like Madonna,Cher,tina Turner,and many other minor SINGERS are more successful than Mariah live,however,it’s not because the sing better than Mariah on stage,but because they make much more to entertain their audience !
    About ‘feeling passion “ or “ communication ‘ from an artist singing,every fans feel it from their respective favorite artist when he/she sing ,not only Madonna’s fans ! Mariah release much more passion and communicates more than Madonna when she sing ,as the majority knows.

    It’s today much more easy to find talentless singers/whom are great entertainers than to find talentful singers whom are average entertainers.Cause entertaining ( dance,choregraphical annexation,artistical eccentricities ) can be improvised ,but not talent ( sing skills,vocal hability ,pure musical inspiration/inclination ).That’s also why MARIAH IS BETTER THAN MADONNA .
    About success,we can say that globally Madonna had a slight advantage over Mariah ,but we know why when we read the post # 144 .
    About all the other things you show for Madonna ( advocacy,producing,modeling,personal endeavours,etc…),Mariah alos have so much ! You just insert your opinion within them, like could do any fan for he’s/her’s favorite artist.But we knowin real facts that Mariah beats Madonna in most of them ( music producing ,personal endeavours ,modeling,directing ).
    About business,everybody always knew that Madonna is just a business-woman ,but not a real artist.Everything Madonna made ,she made it for money,whereas Mariah made everything she made because she’s a true artist . For example, in spite of her big success in Pop music since her debut,Mariah chose in 1997 to sing another musical genre ( R&B and Hip Hop ) which are much less successful worldwide ( Can we imagine if Mariah made only Pop albums ? Besides, Mariah begun to tour only since her 4th album and in a few countries in spite of her huge success .Nevertheless,many other artists which were much less successful than her always grossed many million dollars from tours .But even at her debuts,Mariah wasn’t motived by money ,but by music ,by her artistical creativity.that’s the way real artists are .
    Anyway ,art is art,business is business.don’t combine both ! Here we talk about art,talent and achievements which constitute the greatness of an ARTIST .Everything prove that MARIAH IS THE BEST ,THE GREATEST FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES.

  177. samanticx says:

    @MOFF.. You and I are indeed right, and at least we back up what we say ;).. And as you know, Madonna per CNN is the greatest female music icon in the world!

    @Broken T … Yup, I might just be an expert compared to hilariously delusional Mariah lambs who are totally clueless to the dunce piss they spout. Don’t be broken, just accept the fact that Madonna and Mariah are NOT on the same level: Madonna is WAY UP THERE IN THE BIG LEAGUES of TRUE LEGENDS, while Mariah is just an unintentionally funny wannabe.

    And SPEAKING of being DELUSIONAL… OMG, @STACY, you might just WELL BE! LOL
    I mean, do you ever THINK about what you post? I’m actually cringing for you! LOL

    You claim Mariah is better as an artist! Based on what? The whistle register? REALLY??? LOL And you base your conclusion on just you saying so? Without any worthy BACKUP? Gawd, there should be a LAW distancing the word Mariah from the word Artist! The former doesn’t deserve the latter, not by a long shot!

    Listen, Mariah throughout her career has only come up with one clichéd music after another; all schmaltzy and lame, full of tired and unimaginative lyrics delivered with bombastic singing for bombast’s sake. As I said, Mariah has NO MASTERPIECE work to call her own, save from the delusional claims by herself and her fans. As it is so, HOW on EARTH can she be a better artist than Madonna herself, the woman who practically DEFINED pop music and INFLUENCED pop culture like NO OTHER entertainer? Even worse, Mariah MONUMENTALLY SUCKS at being an entertainer which, HELLO, ALL singers ARE SUPPOSED TO BE!

    Really, your claims give me bellyaches as I can’t help but laugh out loud at their absurdities.

    First, Mariah is NOWHERE NEAR the sublime singing of the REAL VOCAL MAESTROS of the age of global pop music: Barbra Streisand and Aretha Franklin (though, Aretha is not really global). Mariah doesn’t deserve to be in their illustrious company, MUCH LESS BE GREATER THAN THEM as she is but a screamer who has now descended to being a JOKE (cue Singapore, etc.! Hahahaha).

    Second, consider this part of your post:
    “You’re really ignorant when you say that Madonna is the one who communicate on singing, cause every professional singers do ! Otherwise,how they could get fans ? You’re so stupid that you think if you cannot feel a ‘connection’ when an artist sing just mean that you haven’t a taste for he’s music ! Mariah Carey communicate so much more and better than Madonna when she sing ! Madonna communicate so little that she always have the need to move or dance when she sing. Madonna is so far behind Mariah in sing hability and artistry !”

    Hahahaha! You contradict yourself by proving me right! Since Madonna CLEARLY has more fans, then DEFINITELY she communicates BETTER!

    It’s also clear how LIMITED your understanding of what performance is. Body movement enhances communication ONSTAGE as a singer performs, while NOT so as when one just listens to the records! Duh. Madonna IS the master of tuning her movements (whether it be straight out dance, or just “stage kinetic acting”) to her song and message, and so she COMMUNICATES way better onstage than Mariah could ever hope to. Alas, the same thing is true on records: Madonna sings in a way that communicates her feelings and frame of mind, while Mariah sings in a way that communicates just HOW POWERFUL HER VOCALS ARE. See the difference?

    Madonna can sing SPECTACULARLY GOOD just standing or sitting down, thank you very much. And she is as compelling as ever. More so than Mariah. She did it for Live To Tell, Fever, Little Star, etc., etc.
    True, Madonna DOESN’T do national anthems coz that’s NOT her thing and she’s not the VOCALIST for such a thing. And, btw, has Mariah ever done a GREAT Star Spangled Banner rendition??? PUHLEEZ! Whitney Houston DEFINITELY takes that cake! And, obviously Madonna doesn’t DO SAPPY, SCHMALTZY Christmas songs! LOL..

    Third, as to musical diversity, WHAT ON EARTH MAKES YOU THINK MARIAH IS MORE DIVERSE OVER MADONNA? BASED ON??? Oh, NOTHING. Yep, NOTHING. What Mariah has done are NOTHING but pop and gospel pop then RnB/hiphop. Very FEW of them noteworthy, MUCH of them TRASH. As I said, Madonna’s musical influences and output range from straight pop to electronica, trip hop, to RnB & hiphop to standards to Broadway to jazz to middle-eastern to latin, and etc. Etc. Mariah can’t keep up!

    And you, again, OBVIOUSLY don’t know about music. Mouskouri did Latin in the same way as she did French then English then Japanese: Singing SONGS OF A LANGUAGE or PLACE, the way many travelling singers did even before her. She recorded SPECIFIC to those language markets. Not being a songwriter or aesthete, she did not use those regional music as ELEMENTS of HER OWN SOUND. Madonna incorporated Latin in her own pop sound for a GLOBAL AUDIENCE, to be heard by Asians, Africans, etc. Get it?

    And Mariah was the FIRST POP ARTIST TO DO RAP?? WHAAAT??? ARE YOU SERIOUS???
    HAHAHAHAH
    Dear, rapping in pop is traditionally seen as being done first by Debbie Harry of Blondie in 1979 so PLEASE, don’t make a fool of yourself, ok? Heck even STREISAND herself who is the last to think about when it comes to rap, had done rap (or semi rap) in the Soul/RnB-tinged song Queen Bee in 1976!
    And Madonna FAMOUSLY rapped in VOGUE in 1990!
    Oh, dear.
    Hahahaha

    Madonna’s hiphop/RnB work with a rapper in 1994 was well-known for it was part of her Bedtime Stories Album which relatively did great. And obviously MADONNA IS MADONNA, THE BIGGEST STAR IN THE WORLD. So, Mariah got ideas from her. Per usual. LOL.. And Madonna BEFORE she got famous, was THOUGHT OF as a BLACK Soul/RnB dance act. So whatsup with the Mariah doing RnB first NONSENSE?

    Mariah did not change pop. Not by a long shot. She just went where the MARKET is for, actually, CONTRARY to what you falsely claim, by Mid-90s hiphop was becoming THE DOMINANT music genre in the US and even the world, especially on radio, thanks to REAL hiphop stars, mostly male some women (Latifah, Blige, etc.)

  178. samanticx says:

    CONT’D…

    To other things..
    Oh, PLEASE do tell, WHAT has Mariah done to qualify her as a BETTER DIRECTOR than Madonna. Has she directed a film or TV movie or a commercial?? NO. All she did was “direct” *ahem* CRUDDY videos

    What has Mimi done to qualify her as a better MODEL? WHAT has she modelled?? Oh, sausages?? Hahahaha

    Did Mariah produce for others? Did she produce movies? NO.

    Has Mariah established her own foundation that has SAVED LIVES? Is she building a school? Is she providing for irrigation and livelihood for others? NO.

    Has she engaged herself in sports that require skill? NO.

    Has she ORCHESTRATED any major event? NO.

    Oh, YES, she does things like… TWEET!!! Hahahaha .. And in them, she begs her fans to download her music to give her another numbah one, and to gush over her DOG! Hahahaha .. Mariah is motivated by money, but I do agree that something else is a bigger motivator for her: getting another #1! She’s OBSESSED with CHARTS!
    Speaking of…

    Dear, how can Madonna only has a *SLIGHT* edge over Mariah globally when Madonna CLOBBERS Mariah globally in every possible metric? How can someone who has 15 #1s has just a slight edge over someone who has only 2?? How can someone whose last studio album is #1 in 37 countries has only a slight edge over someone whose last studio album is #1 only in what, 1 country? Hahahah
    Get REAL.

    Lastly, ALL SINGERS ARE ENTERTAINERS, NO GETTING AROUND IT. When you sing professionally, you ENTERTAIN professionally, whether you dance or not. Streisand knows this, that’s why she holds her audience captive with her singing and stage presence. Clearly, even TO HER OWN fans, Mariah is ONLY a records entertainer as even they flock AWAY in droves from her concerts! … If choreography is only improvised, then how come Mariah—who does choreography— still sucks at it? And to the contrary, when one tours AFTER giving 4 albums already, demand should be pent up and WAY UP. But Mariah just fizzled. What gives? Well, Mariah is simply HORRENDOUS on stage. Utterly talentless. Lately, she’s getting more and more of an embarrassment. It was fine when one falls onstage (oh, I’m withholding my animal metaphors! LOL) , but it’s another to have your enslaved stylist massage your foot onstage and have someone bring you wine and you acting all-around ridiculous just to cover up for the fact that you can’t entertain your audience for sh**. She’s making herself a laughable parody of a diva.

    Oh.. that’s entertainment, right?

  179. samanticx says:

    MADONNA

    “The history of women in music is divided into the time before and after Madonna” — Susan Sarandon

    “She leads, we all just follow”- Mary J. Blige

    “The biggest, most influential female artist of the past 25 years” – CNN

    “The greatest female music icon in the world” — CNN

    #2 Greatest Music Icon (behind Elvis) — NY Daily News

    #1 Essential Woman in Rock List — Women in Rock

    #6 Greatest Rock and Roller (only female in top 10) – Life Book of Greatest Rock and Rollers

    #5 Greatest Entertainer (2nd among musicians)– Entertainment Weekly

    Artist of the Millennium– MTV Asia

    “She bridges art and commerce like NO other can” — USA Today 80s assessment on why Madonna is the greatest 80s music star

    “[Like A Prayer].. is as close to ART as pop music gets” — Rolling Stone

    #16 (and highest female ranking; Mariah at #94) Greatest Music artist — Vh1

    One of the “Immortals of Music” — Rolling Stone

    “The Most Famous Woman in the World” — Rolling Stone

    The Queen of Pop — Blender

    The Greatest Female Music Artist– Blender

    The Epitome of the Postmodern Society– 90s academics

    “The First Real Feminist in Music”– Paglia, in NYTimes

    The Biggest Selling Female Recording Artist of All Time — Guinness Records

    The Biggest Selling Female Recording Artist of All Time — IFPI

    #7 Greatest Pop Culture Icon (behind only Elvis among musicians; Mariah surprisingly blessed at #186)– People/Vh1

    One of ONLY 5 musicians in the GREATEST AMERICANS list — Discovery

    Among the 100 Greatest Women of the Century list– Ladies Home Journal

    Course Subject for Marketing — Wharton and London Business Schools

    “The Madonna Curve” — NATO term for geopolitical and military flexibility

    The Madonna Studies– unprecedented for-credit sociology subjects in many universities worldwide

    The Greatest Solo Touring Act in the World — Pollstar/BBBoxscores

    Founding Inductee — British Music Hall of Fame

    Inductee– the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (on 1st year of eligibility!)

    Like A Virgin, one of 200 Definitive Albums of All Time — Rock Hall of Fame registry

    Vogue, Bedtime Stories, etc.– on NY Museum of Modern Art Permanent video collection

    Biggest Webcast in History — Madonna at Roseland

    “One of the Greatest Stage Entertainers”- MTV, Blender, Slant, RS

    One of the Cultural Elite — Newsweek

    A staple in the high ranks of the Forbes Annual Power list

    “She made my career” — Tom Ford, when Madonna famously wore his Gucci collection on MTV VMAs

    Set a thousand and one fashion trends (boy toy look, crucifixes, underwear as outerwear, bustiers, boleros, leotards, cowgirl chic, appliqued pants, henna tatoo, earth mother chic, belly buttons, dyke chic, collagen lips, wifebeaters, etc.) . More than ANY musician. Meld fashion to music. More than ANY.

    “NO” — Madonna’s answer to Anna Wintour’s wish that she covers the Fashion Rocks Vogue magazine supplement; she’s one of the few whom Wintour CANNOT intimidate. Wintour then attends Madonna’s Malawi event! LOL

    “.. Lady Gaga and all the rest of the pop stars all live and operate under the world created by Madonna” — CNN feature

    [Ray of Light] “One of the great pop masterpieces of the 90s” — Slant magazine

    “America’s Smartest Businesswoman” — Prof. Barrow, Cranfield School of Management

    Personally feted by heads of state of: Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy, Poland, Switzerland, Montenegro, etc.

    ETC.

    ETC.

    ETC.

    Be it in music, pop culture & society, business, politics, fashion, and philanthropy, Madonna’s impact and influence is GIGANTIC and deep. Truly in the music world, her competition are truly the top of the top for she is among them: The Beatles, Elvis, even Michael Jackson… I don’t know why Mariah is deemed by some as competition. Mariah is an achiever herself but she’s NOT of Madonna’s league. End of.

  180. TRISH says:

    Samanticx get a life ,instead to pander to Madonna.She got so much and she’s extremely rich.You lose your time here,cause all that you wrote doesn’t change anything to the Fact that Mariah Carey is a million times better than Madonna in everything. Madonna can’t compete with Mariah cause she’s before all a busineessWoman and a showgirl while Mariah is before all a real artist. Why Madonna never able to sing the natiaonal anthem like do every big singer ? Aretha , Whitney,Mariah, Celine,etc..? Can you answer to me? why a so “great singer as Madonna” can’t sing traditional Christmas songs like every big artists? It’s because she’s not able to do it.Moreover,Mariah is a exceptional singer not only because of her little register,but because she’s a soulful singer.Listen,Vanishing,hero,i don’t wanna cry,Through the rain, Music Box,Lookin’ in, Till the end of time ,etc… These songs never get her whistle register,nevertheless anyone could’nt sing them.You’re so stupid Samanticx to deny this fact.Mariah sing better than any artist worldwide.You can say anything you want ,but your hatred can’t change nothing.Madonna just don’t know sing.You love her thanks to her ass that her show you.All that Madonna got over Mariah are: Much more money than Mariah,her several sexual adventures ( with more than 1000 men ),lesbian adventures (With Rosie Perez and others woman).Samanticx,I dare you to cite to me a Madonna song which more soulful than a Mariah one.Moff,why don’t you have balls enough to say to samantixc that she wrong when she said that Madonna is most soulful than Carey? You always said that I used insults ,but you must recognize when your friends said s*it just to support Madonna.Nobody never swallow your sh**s Samanticx ,you’re just as creep as your Madonna.Madonna is everything as you said moff,except a singer.GET OUT HERE SAMANTICX AND MOFF !

  181. TRISH says:

    Stacy is right at 100%.Samanticx,on what based you when you try to say that Madonna is a better artist than Mariah? Her sex symbol? Although Madonna got many institutions who support her,her songs are too far to do the same.Madonna is nothinng as artist compare to Mariah.

  182. TRISH says:

    Madonna nor Barbra streisand and others never rap in any of their songs,don’t try to counfond us Samanticx.These talk in their songs not Rap. Rap is rap talk is talk. In vogue Madonna talk and cite the names of many superstars,that doesn’t mean she rap.Did boyz II Men Rapped in their songs when they talk in them ? No, This is Missy Elliott, Da Brat, Shawna who are rap as they are female rappers.Mariah did it first since 1990 in the song Prisoner.So,Stacy is right,Mariah is the first female pop artist who rap in a Pop song.

  183. DONNA says:

    madonna and Mariah, two diferent kind “singers”, .
    madonna is not a REAL singer,. “a plastic product”.
    mariah once was a real singer. but now she LOST IT

  184. DONNA says:

    IFPI NEVER DECLARED MADONNA AS THE BEST SELLING FEMALE.
    MADONNA AND HER FORMER RECORD LABEL “CLAIM” TO GUINNESS THAT SHE is the best selling female.

  185. samanticx says:

    Oh, TRISH… Clueless much? LOL

    As I said, Mariah is NOT worthy to be described as an “Artist” so give it up. She’s just a singer/cowriter of lame songs, someone who vocalizes gratuitously, thinking that over-singing means good singing.

    And LAWD, WHAT STUPIDITY is this anthem singing as argument? hahahaha!

    Dear, singing the anthem in NOT Madonna’s shtick: she leaves that to the VOCALISTS– those divas whose claim to fame is their BIG VOICES. Duh. Besides, it’s WHITNEY HOUSTON territory and NOT Mariah (who honestly SUCKED at it) and so you bringing up singing the anthem is such a mystery to me. Like, wtf! LOL

    Ditto for the Christmas songs. Btw, Mariah seems so DESPERATE to get to the charts again that she’s returning to singing Christmas songs in.. SEPTEMBER! hahahaha

    Seriously.

    As for your dare.. PLEASE, it’s SO EASY. Like A Prayer, Live To Tell, Spanish Eyes, Love Tried to Welcome Me, et. etc., are ALL sung way more soulfully than any and all of Mariah’s bombastic efforts.

    So, YES, I have answered you… and MORE! LOL..

    And, PLZ., I don’t hate Mariah. NO POP STAR– esp. a thoroughly laughable one as Mariah is worth that kind of emotional investment.

    As for the rapping.. OMG. Even RAPPERS say that the name-checks in Vogue IS RAPPING. Perhaps ONLY you say it isn’t! Even Madonna HATERS say it’s rapping! You wanna know what TALKING is in a song? Listen to Madonna’s FABULOUS early 80s gem, Physical Attraction.. now, THAT’S (sexy) TALKING. The Vogue rap is rapping as it has that unmistakable rap delivery or rhythmic quality that clearly is beyond just talking. And btw.. NOBODY CARED ABOUT NOR HEARD THE LAME PRISONER! LOL .. And Vogue is released first!

    Truly, when it comes to rapping, both divas have NOTHING on Debbie Harry (or better yet, the band Blondie) whose song Rapture (1981– not 1979, oops) was the FIRST rap-influenced song to go #1. In it, Harry RAPPED! So, STOP your embarrassing delusion of Mimi doing the rap first, ok? You really do sorely need education on popular music..

    Btw.. Check out Streisand’s 1986 concert One Voice and compare the singing of the 40-ish Barbra to the 40-ish Mariah. NO CONTEST. Whereas Barbra still sings with effortless power, top-caliber finesse, and deeply felt emotions, Mimi sings raggedly, hoarsely, & with much difficulty, with embarrassing voice gaps and choked notes!

    Mimi is NOWHERE near your OTT claim of being the best singer in the world.

    Never was and never will. End of.

    Perhaps if you submit Mimi’s name as a contender for “the World’s *previously* Best Vocal Acrobat”, I *might* support you! HAHAHAHAHA

  186. samanticx says:

    To Donna..

    Au Contraire, dear.. Madonna IS the REAL THING; Mariah IS the MANUFACTURED one. People has this foolishly naive notion that if one is a “vocalist” (w/ a big voice), she’s not manufactured. Well, Mimi proves them wrong!

    Mimi was a PRODUCT formed and molded by Sony and Mottola as a belated answer to Whitney Houston. Mimi was DESIGNED as a Whitney CLONE. And if Mimi fans don’t know this, then they DON’T KNOW Mimi! Didn’t Mimi herself whined about this?

    Contrast her to Madonna who was– and IS– a TRUE FORCE OF NATURE, whose mega-strong personality bulldozed anything and everything that got in her way! Early in her career someone tried to package her as a Pat Benatar clone but Madonna blasted that notion to smithereens and so she forged her own TRAILBLAZING path, a path that paved the way for ALL the other women artists that would come alongside or after her, including, yes, Mimi.

    Mimi was a PRODUCT by others; Madonna was her own self-creation.

    As to IFPI, as far as I know, it DIDN’T DECLARE Madonna the biggest selling female artist of all time the way Guinness did, but it might as well had. They released their data and in it, Madonna is CLEARLY the biggest selling female artist of all time.. ;)

    And PLZ.. The Guinness BOWR declaration was done AFTER Madonna and Warners SPLIT UP, so WHY ON EARTH would Warners (which is not too happy with Madonna moving to Livenation, & which DIDN’T even have Madonna’s albums recertified!) work to have Guinness give Madonna the biggest selling distinction? Doesn’t make sense. Besides, the Guinness organization DOESN’T just accept AS IS any claims: they themselves certify the information with verifiable records!

    LEARN.

    And to Stacy and Trish and all the Mimi lambs.. Happy re-reading post #179! ;)

  187. donna says:

    “As to IFPI, as far as I know, it DIDN’T DECLARE Madonna the biggest selling female artist of all time the way Guinness did, but it might as well had. They released their data and in it, Madonna is CLEARLY the biggest selling female artist of all time.. ;)”.

    hmmm, there’s no correlation and reliable data in your statement.
    well, as usual another fake argument from fans who “desperate seeking an accurate data”.
    please don’t compare Mariah to Madonna ,.
    mariah always be known as a great singer.
    madonna is Madonna , she can be anything from norma jean wannabe or to be someone/something else and she’s good at it.
    she rips everything, I though she was truly inventor. but I was wrong about that.

  188. donna says:

    ifpi had declared Celine and Mariah[secong place] as the best selling female, ifpi not mentioned Madonna in it.

  189. samanticx says:

    ALL the IFPI comprehensive stats say Madonna is the all-time top seller. So, sorry, saying otherwise is just utter futility in deception.

    And oy, ifpi “declaring” dion and carey the best selling females has “correlation” and reliable data to it???

    OMG. HAHAHAHAHAAHAH

    And YES I AGREE (YAY!) that Mimi SHOULDN’T be compared to Madonna. Mimi is just NOT WORTHY! Madonna is TOP VENUE, Mimi is honky tonk.

  190. donna says:

    “ALL the IFPI comprehensive stats say Madonna is the all-time top seller. So, sorry, saying otherwise is just utter futility in deception.”.
    show me the link and the source of your statement.
    “And YES I AGREE (YAY!) that Mimi SHOULDN’T be compared to Madonna. Mimi is just NOT WORTHY! Madonna is TOP VENUE”
    yes I agree too about that, for “singer’ who has limited voice like Madonna, theater, or arena venue doesn’t suite and can’t hold her 100 dancers and as well her heavy duty equipments. well you know circus atration need a large space,.

  191. Tabitah,from India says:

    I think Mariah is better than Madonna .More successful doesn’t mean more talentuous.In my area ,Madonna isn’t worthy to be Mariah’s rival on talent,but on success.Every wannabe female singers dream to sing like Mariah,not like Madonna ( Maybe they dream to get rich and famous like Madonna ).That prove clearly that Mariah is a better singer than Madonna .And In my opinion,Mariah is a better artist globally ,whether she’s more or less successful .Mariah is the Female artist of all time.

  192. STACY says:

    Sorry Samanticx, this is Mariah who is the greatest female artist of all times ! Not Madonna.Mariah had the back up of the FACTS,not of just citations from some institutions like : CNN,Vibe,Rolling Stones,etc… All these institutions are constituted by humans and can be subjective,but facts are facts ! Madonna have the back up of institutions ( citations,etc) to intend that she’s the greatest female artist ,but it’s not enough.Mariah have the back up of facts,fulfillments and achievements.
    You’re WRONG, Mariah IS IN THE LEAGUE OF TRUE LEGENDS .Let’s see :

    Mariah Carey is greater than Madonna and a better artist.Artistrically, Madonna is in the league of minor artists like: Lady Gaga,Britney Spears,Kylie Minogue,Janet Jackson,Rihanna,Jennifer Lopez ,etc…And unlike what you said,Mariah Carey is in the league of greatest Legends and Music Icons such as : Beatles,Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson.Mariah share many records only with those artists:
    -Best Selling artist OVERALL of a decade (1960’s Beatles,1970’s Elvis Presley, 1980’s Michael Jackson, 1990’s Mariah Carey ).
    -Most # 1 songs penned by artist overall ( Paul McCarteney 23, John Lennon 19, Mariah Carey
    17 ).
    -Most # 1 songs penned by a female composer ( Mariah Carey 17 ,Carole King 9 )
    -Most #1 hit songs at Billboard Hot 100 ( Beatles 20, Elvis Presley 18,Mariah Carey 18,Michael Jackson 13 )
    -Most cumulated weeks at # 1 in Billboard Hot 100.(Elvis Presley 79, Mariah Carey 79)
    – Number one musical influence worldwide of today’s artists
    -Huge impact and contribution in music ( Mariah Carey revolutionize Pop music.She’s the Queen of R&B,Elvis Presley is the King of Rock & roll,Michael Jackson is the King of Pop )
    -Best Selling Female Artist of The Last Millennium ( Michael Jackson is the best selling male artist of the last Millennium )

    -Best selling female artist of all times ( Guinness World Records 1997,World Music Awards 1998,2000,2003,IFPI )
    -Most popular female singer on earth

  193. STACY says:

    I claim Mariah is much better than Madonna based on her talent ,her musical influence ,her impact on music and her achievements .On what did you claim Madonna is a better artist than Mariah ? On her sex symbol status ? Or on her scandals ? On her sexual tactics and eccentricities ?
    Anyway,it would be much more reasonable to claim the efficiency of an artist based on her voice quality than on her eccentricities !
    About worthy BACK UP, the best ones are obviously the accomplishments and the achievements themselves ,not just citations from magazines,TV channels ,superstars ,etc…these institutions and people can be partial and subjective in their statements ,so the facts are the better back up we could trust .
    Everything proves that Mariah Carey is a legendary artist whereas Madonna is just a vulgar wannabe .That’s why in the 1980’s ,in spite of Madonna’s sexual tactics and tricks ,eccentricities and tiring acrobatic dances, Whitney Houston’s two albums outsold all her albums in that decade ! Besides, although Madonna’s severall # 1 singles worldwide,Whitney Houston’s best selling singles in that decade sold much better than any Madonna’s ! That’s also prove that topping the charts in severall countries doesn’t always mean more sales,nor most impact on the public !
    If Madonna was really that great artist,why is this Whitney Houston who is the first female artist to have 2 albums selling over 20 millions copies worldwide,although Madonna started on music before Whitney and release much more albums ? Why Madonna got just 1 album ranked in the list of the top 10 best selling albums by female artists whereas Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston have both 2 ones ?
    Why Madonna’s best selling album sold less than Mariah’s ? That proves I was right when I said that Mariah communicate so much more and better than Madonna,as her albums sold better than Madonna’s,Madonna just release much albums than Mariah.So,Mariah has more fans than Madonna.
    About communication in music,Mariah do it much better than what Madonna could never do ! Mariah is the most soulful singer whereas Madonna is the less soulful and less skilful major singer ever.She even can’t sing all kinds of songs ! An enough skilful singer is able to sing not only cheesy music,but every musical style : Christmas songs,national anthems,etc…Madonna just can’t sing these kind of songs,so don’t say that it’s not “ her style ,blab bla “ .True soulful and skilful singers are not border to “ a style “, but are able to sing everything. Why it’s rightly Lady Gaga,Britney Spears,Jennifer Lopez,Madonna,etc who are not able to sing soulful songs as the national anthem,God Bless America,Christmas songs ? Why they could never done any acceptable rendition of soulful songs like Aretha Franklin’s Respect or Natural Woman ? Or Phil Collins’s Against All Odds ?
    However,Christina Aguilera,Leona Lewis,Kelly Clarkson,Jennifer Hudson ,Beyonce Knowles are able to give good renditions of those songs .You see the difference ?
    All Mariah’s songs are much more soulful and communicate much better than any Madonna’s song as everybody know.For example,T. Field and research team discovered that Vision of Love has physiological and biochemical positive effects on depressed female adolescents.
    On stage ,Mariah still a very great singer ! Did Madonna ever give a live performance as soulful and good as Mariah’s I’ll Be There ? Live version of Hero ( 1994 ) ? Fly like A Bird 2006 Grammy Awards ? The Star Spangled Banner ( 2002 Superbowls ) ? No.Like you said,it’s not Madonna’s thing .
    About The Star Spangled Banner,maybe the Whitney’s version was successful unlike Mariah’s,but it’s doesn’t mean that Mariah’s rendition wasn’t good.In fact,Mariah’s rendition of the national anthem is one of the best renditions of this song .You always confound quality with success.

    About Mariah’s being formely a Whitney Houston clone unlike Madonna who is a so called “ pure creation “,it’s untrue ! Mariah was a original and pure creation,not a Whitney imitation,you’re confounded ! Mariah was the only female singer who could compete with Whitney vocally and artistrilly,,and her sing style was very close to Whitney ‘s cause ,like Whitney’s voice,her’s was very powerful.But that’s all,Their voices were very resembled,that’s why people always compared their respective work.Nevertheless.it’s Celine Dion’s sing style which is closer to Whitney’s faithfully, not Mariah’s ! It’s even why today ,when we listen to Leona Lewis songs,we immediately notice that she sing exactly like Mariah carey at her prime,but not like Whitney Houston !In the same way,Christina Aguilera’s songs sound like Mariah’s ,but not like Whitney’s ! You see the difference ? Mariah was her own creation,a unique vocalist with powerful voice and unique vocal assets ( whistle register ).Madonna wasn’t a original creation,she was just a talentless artist who couldn’t compete on talent with the real artists,that’s why she had recourse to sexual shocks,eccentricities and crudeness ! There is any original “ creation “ on this,it’s too easy, too superficial and degrading for many other artists. And it have any link with talent,nor with art ,nor with music !All you would to have to got is shamelessness and determination.Madonna is the kind of woman who would do anything for getting success,even the most degradind and immoral things,that’s why she finally reach the success she had since always.
    STACY
    About Barbra Streisand and Aretha Franklin,Mariah is light years ahead them on sing ability and voice quality,everybody know it ! Just take any song from them and compare it with any Mariah’s songs ,we will see Mariah’s supremacy very obviously !Aretha and Barbra’s oldness doesn’t make them any better than Mariah ,nor than Whitney Houston !
    Janet Jackson is the real Queen Of Pop,not Madonna.Madonna isn’t worthy to be compared with Janet as artist.Madonna would be the queen of vulgarities and obscenities.Janet has much more talent than Madonna,She sing true music,she has a better voice and she dance so much better than Madonna ! Madonna got only more success than Janet,but it’s because Madonna use sexual tactics and eccentricities.Janet is the Queen Of Pop.

  194. STACY says:

    Mariah is a better model than Madonna ,cause she’s simply more beautiful and got a better body ( her body match to modeling much more better ) .Like great supermodels,Mariah is tall whereas Madonna is short.Mariah is sexy but not vulgar nor coarse .Mariah had work as model for Tommy Hilfiger ,Versace and Pinko ( replacing Naomi Campbell and Eva Herzigova for Pinko ).
    Mariah produced songs for artists like Faith Hill,Patti Labelle,Missy Elliott,Mary J Blige,etc…
    Mariah has directed many of her own video clips which are better than many Madonna’s.
    Mariah gave many millions dollars for helping needies and saving lives.
    Mariah is the best selling female artist of all times,Madonna is not ! It’s just Guinness who claim it because of Madonna’s label ,but it’s not relevant.Besides,on this point Guinness is not reliable at all as it published 338 million albums sold for Madonna in 2000,then 380 till 2009 ! However ,it’s only by June 2010 that it rectify the amount at 200 million for 2011 ! So ,everything prove that Guinness is not reliable about this and Madonna isn’t the real best selling female artist ,Mariah is !
    Maybe Madonna got more albums and singles topping the charts in many countries over Mariah ,nevertheless Mariah sold more records than Madonna ! Albums like Music Box,Daydream,etc… and singles like We Belong Together,All I Want For Christmas Is You,Without You,etc… prove it as they sold more than any Madonna’s record ! For example,Madonna’s Vogue was # 1 in 30 countries,Hung Up was #1 in 45 countries,however they sold less than any of Mariah’s 3 best selling singles ! It’s prove that topping the chart doesn’t always mean impressive sales .
    All Madonna bring into music are vulgarity,crudeness,superficiality,nudity,sexual shock and scandals,lesbianism, shamelessness ,mediocrity and musical clumsiness.

    MARIAH CAREY IS THE QUEEN OF MUSIC ,AND THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES .

  195. STACY says:

    Mariah is more diverse over Madonna based the variety of musical genres she sings ! Mariah sings Much more musical genres than Madonna ( Pop,Soul,Gospel,Traditional R&B,R&B Contemporary,Blues,Jazz,Disco,Country,House,Techno,Rap,Hip Hop,Adult Contemporary,Groove,Ballad,etc..) .
    About,Mariah Carey is the first female Pop artist ever who rapped in a song ! Mariah rapped true Rap,the Rap everybody knows .All the artist you cited just talk in their songs,but not Rapped ! No matter what say anyone,there is a big difference between Rapping and just talking in song,everybody know it !All you say about it is untrue .Singing is singing ,Rapping is Rapping ,talking is talking,no one can change this fact,even the rappers themselves couldn’t.
    Unlike what you said ,Mariah didn’t “ just went where the market is for”.Mariah turned to R&B in 1997,although Pop was by far the dominant musical genre.Contrary to what you said,Pop was the most successful at the times Mariah turned to R&B/Hip Hop .In facts,following up with her huge success with the Pop album Daydream , and Alanis Morrissette’s Jagged Little Pill in 1995,Celine Dion also had a huge success with Falling Into You in 1996,and Toni Braxton’s Secrets ,Spice girls’s debut album,then Celine Dion’s Let’s Talk About Love in 1997.Next,the debut album of Backstreet Boys,Nsync ,etc…
    Mariah Carey paved the way for Hip Hop by her Remix of Fantasy.Fortunatelly,she didn’t make it with a famous rapper like Tupac,etc…So that haters would give the merit to the rapper ,instead of Mariah !
    Madonna’s 1994 collaboration with Tupac wasn’t known at all until now.Otherwise,all Madonna’s crazy fans would always claim it.Anyway,it was a complete failure.so don’t try to say that it was popular.
    Mariah Carey is the artist who send Hip Hop as a dominant musical genre in the US,and the world relatively.Before Mariah’s success in R&B/Hip Hop,this musical genre was border to the Black community.Thanks to Mariah, Hip Hop extend everywhere and climb the Charts. The real Hip Hop stars was always there,but they had’nt popularity enough to impose this musical genre everywhere.Everyone always known the existence of Hip Hop,however it’s only since Mariah’s Fantasy that everybody heard Hip Hop music.
    Mariah changed Pop music,thanks to Mariah Hip Hop is the current dominant musical genre .
    Madonna is just the queen of depravation,obscenity,lesbianism,sexual shocks and scandals,shamelessness,nudity,superficiality,mediocrity,clumsiness.Thanks to Madonna,Many talentless artists can break through in music and become very successful because of their images and their eccentricities .That’s all Madonna bring into music,nothing else !

    MARIAH CAREY CHANGE POP MUSIC.MARIAH CAREY IS THE REVOLUTIONARY OF POP MUSIC .MARIAH IS THE QUEEN OF MUSIC.

  196. MOFF says:

    I think we should respect both artist for their respective careers. But I’ve honestly never known Mariah singing any other genres than Hip Hop, RnB, Soul etc.
    Since her 2000s albums Mariah is sinking into a world of unsuccessful underground artists. Mariah is not Mariah Carey she had been in the 90s!
    I really wonder why I can’t see any of Carey’s albums in lists of 500 best selling albums of ANY magazines.
    Besides, either people want to be FAMOUS like Madonna, or they wanna be VOCALISTS like Whitney, Mariah, ….
    All I can say is that there will never be another Madonna!
    In the course of time there have been many wannabe popstars who wanted to compete with Madonna.

    Stacy:
    “Madonna is just the queen of deprivation,obscenity,lesbianism,sexual shocks and scandals,shamelessness,nudity,superficiality,mediocrity,clumsiness.Thanks to Madonna,Many talentless artists can break through in music and become very successful because of their images and their eccentricities .That’s all Madonna bring into music,nothing else !”

    Madonna is not just the queen of the things you mentioned, MADONNA IS THE QUEEN OF FANTASTIC MUSIC!

    Madonna’s legacy is bigger than Mariah’s.
    Madonna is considered as THE female popstar, singer of the world, because she changed music with her songs!

    EVERY SONG that came out went to the Top Ten or was a number one hit WORLDWIDE.
    Mariah instead, had to struggle to bring a song in the number Top Ten WORLDWIDE.

    Mariah surely changed music. But she mainly changed it in the USA, where hip hop and RnB is main music for most artist today.
    Otherwise, why isn’t she having the impact in Europe or other parts of the world apart from Asian parts like Japan, Philippines etc.?

    Mariah is a vocalist, nothing else.
    Actually, I didn’t understand any meaning of her songs today.
    Most themes of her’s are free-time, love, diva behavior, dream lovers, beauty.

    Madonna has changed her image to every release of a new album and showed us nother sides of musical genres.

    SHE IS THE QUEEN OF DIVERSITY

    to IFPI:

    Madonna is not mentioned as the biggest selling female artist?

    But why is Madonna at the top of the list of biggest selling artists ?

    Madonna is recognized as best selling female artist of the world by RIAA, IFPI, Guinness and many others !
    Nothing can change it!
    And funnily enough the Madonna – haters finally recognized her as the best selling artist.
    At the beginning of this debate there were many who considered Mariah or Celine as the best selling, but now this debate opened their eyes and NOW they recognize Madonna as the top selling female artist.
    Of course, there are still people considering Mariah, but sooner or later they will get the right information!

    Mariah – Queen of Hip Hop/RnB!
    Madonna – Queen of worldwide Pop music!

  197. Jeffry says:

    Yeah Stacy, I agree with you !Moff,you’re wrong,Stacy is right at 100%. Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of all times and the greatest singer ever ! Don’t say that she was at 1990 and blablabla … cause until now,no one can sing like Mariah ! she stay the best. Madonna just don’t know sing ,it’s obvious for everyone.She can’t compare with Mariah.mariah blow away Madonna in everything.Just accept the fact that Madonna isn’t a real singer as everybody always know. Madonna is the Queen of number one Hits .while Mariah is the queen of Music overall !

  198. Momo says:

    Yeah ! Stacy is right,Mariah is so much better than Madonna in facts!

  199. MOFF says:

    Jeffry, you are such a bonehead! Sorry but I must say that!
    Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time, and everyone knows that fact!
    Mariah might be the Queen the overall for you but she isn’t the most successful! it’s Madonna, no doubt, Look at the beginning of this debate and follow it till now!
    You’ll see that Madonna is already recognized and considered as the best selling female artist!

  200. DIVAS says:

    Madonna is a show girl ,and an entertainer whereas Mariah Carey is a singer and a vocalist .End of the story !

  201. DIVAS says:

    Mariah is abetter artist,bu business-woman.Mariah wins.

  202. STACY says:

    Moff, we must respect both artists,but we also must say the truth about them.You say you’ve neve known Madonna singing any other genres than Hip Hop ,R&B,Soul,But it’s normal ,as you’re not a Mariah fan,you don’t know all her music .However,you should know that things are not border to only what you known .For example,It’s exactly the same for me about Madonna,I’ve never known Madonna singing any other genres than Dance Pop,Pop Electro , Electronica,etc…
    You said Mariah is not the one she had been in the 90’s,but she’s not the only one ! Madonna too,is not the Madonna she had been in the 80’s ! Celine Dion ,Whitney Houston,etc…which artist really stay the in the same level than at he’s/ her’s best ? Particulary Mariah who was EXCEPTIONALLY successful in the 90’s ,it’S LOGICALLY senseless that she could stay at the same level at currently! Mariah wasn’t simply very successful at the 90’s ,unlike the way Madonna ,Whitney Houston were successful in the 80’s,or Celine Dion in the 90’s.She was the MOST SUCCESSFUL ARTIST OVERALL in that decade.So,it’s normal that there is a very huge difference between her level in the 90’s and her level in that decade ,contrary to other artists for which ,the difference between their better days and their worse days is not very huge ! You understand ? Currently,Mariah isn’t really far behind other artists ,for example compare her total record sales in that decade to other artists like Madonna ,Celine Dion,etc.We’ll see that either Mariah got the advantage,either she equal to them,either one of them got a very slight advantage.The only thing in which any of those artists beat Mariah is tours and concerts tickets sales !
    You know why you can’t see any Mariah’s album in lists of 500 best selling albums of any magazines ? It’s because these magazines arer totally biased,partial and subjectives ! Why the best selling artist of the 1990 decade,the first best selling female artist of all times,the best selling female artist of the last millennium couldn’t have any album among the 500 best selling albums of all times ? That’s is simply impossible !That’s doesn’t show clearly that these institutions have a hostility against Mariah ? Unless these lists wouldn’t also have any albums of Madonna ,nor from many other artists !You rightly give me reason about ranks of magazines and other institutions which never ranked Mariah’s work among the best ! That show how much they are partial and not reliable at all !
    You said there will never be another Madonna,but how much more there is will never be another Mariah Carey ???!!! The way Mariah break through in music,and got this huge success and popularity worldwide will be much more difficult to match than Madonna ‘s way ! The pretender would have to got not only determination ,but above of all ,much talent,a great,good and very exceptional voice,an amazing vocal virtuosity and skills, etc… next ,the success ( which include celebrity and popularity worldwide ).
    Today,we saw many others Madonna,which have all Madonna had at her prime !
    You said Madonna is the queen of fantastic music,but what do you call ‘fantastic music “ ? Do you mean that Madonna’s music surpass other’s female artists on quality ? If that’s what you mean,know that it’s only your opinion ,as Madonna fan .Can you say precisely what did Madonna change in music by her songs ?
    Do you really think that Madonna’s legacy is bigger than Mariah’s ? First,Of what kind of legacy do you talk ? Of musical legacy ? Of recognition from institutions,or of real impact on music and on people musically ?
    Maybe Mariah had to struggle to bring a song in the top 10 of charts in many countries,nevertheless,her sales of her songs was always very good relatively to Madonna’s ! Mariah’s impact was always more important toward the public than towards the institutions( radios,magazines,etc,,,) !
    Madonna is a show girl, and a business-woman,nothing else.
    You say you don’t understand the meaning of Mariah’s current songs,it’s normal cause you’re a Madonna fan!Go and listen Fly like A Bird,We Belong Together,My Saving Grace,Through The Rain,Angel’s Cry,and so on ! It’s also normal that you understand all the meanings of Madonna’s songs like Hung Hup,Jump,Hard Candy,Erotica,etc…as you love Madonna !
    Madonna has change her image to every release, just to sell her records ! There is nothing deserving on that !She always change her image,but not her music nor sing style.However,Mariah changed not only her image,but also her sing style and her music,that’s what is really significant .
    Sorry,Moff but YOU LIE ! IFPI never mentioned Madonna as the best selling female artist of all times ! If they did,you would prove it since long ago !
    RIAA recognize Barbra Streisand of best selling female artist in USA,not Madonna ! Guinness claim Madonna is the best selling female artist ,only because Madonna’s label .

    And funnily enough ,Mariah haters finally recognized Mariah as Female Artist of All Times ! Anyway, Here ,we talk about the Female artist of all times,not about the best selling one . The theme of this entry is Mariah Carey : Female Artist Of All Times . Yes,Mariah is .

  203. MOFF says:

    Stacy
    I assumed that everbody knows that Madonna is the best selling female artist of the world, according to IFPI
    Yes, IFPI never said: Madonna is the biggest selling female artist in history, but they listed Madonna as the first female in their list!
    What does it mean?
    She’s the best selling female artist.

    Not only maybe, she HAD to struggle to bring songs in the Top Ten.
    The reason why Mariah’s sales are high is because she had a very huge impact in the US, where the sales were higher than in any other countries!
    With “fantastic music” I didn’t mean the quality of songs?
    What is the quality of song, if the song is not very popular…
    I mean Madonna’s music is fantastic because people love listening to her songs!
    I didn’t mean Mariah’s songs are less fantastic!
    NAd probably you didn’t udnerstand me.
    I said: Madonna was not only the queen of the things you mentioned, Madonna is the queen of fantastic music!

    It means:
    Madonna is NOT only the queen of sexuality, business woman
    Yes, Madonna is it! But she MAKES fantastic music, what don’t you understand?

  204. samanticx says:

    OMG.

    Lambs are out of control.

    STACY is OUT OF CONTROL.

    I kept mentioning– and RIGHTFULLY so– that lambs are delusional yet instead of wising up and start looking at reality, they WORSENED their delusions!

    Hey, Stacy, look up the dictionary the word DELUSIONAL, ok? That’s YOU.

    Frankly dear, not only are your assertions here DELUSIONS, they are incoherent and full of contradictions.

    Ok, let me go to the points as much as I can (too many! LOL)

    I. ON BEING THE ALL -TIME BESTSELLING ARTIST.

    Gurl, MADONNA IS THE WORLD’S BESTSELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME. No buts, no ifs, NO DEBATE. It’s proven by REPUTABLE institutions and NO MERE CONJECTURE BY DELUDED LAMBS like you can change that. SO GET OVER IT.

    * IFPI in their summary releases STATES SO.

    * Guinness Book of World Records (with their stringent review process) STATES so.

    * INDEPENDENT and IMPARTIAL DATA providers/compilers STATE so.

    * Fans (of other artists) WHO HATE MADONNA even say so!

    So saying that all of them ARE BIASED are just SOUR-GRAPING and an exercise in DENIAL.

    And saying that it was WARNER MUSIC that convinced Guinness Book of Records that Madonna is the all-time bestselling female artist is RIDICULOUS.

    You know why?

    BECAUSE MADONNA AND WARNERS HAVE SPLIT UP WAAY BEFORE GUINNESS CONDUCTED THEIR REVIEW for the 2010 edition, and that Warners and Madonna are NOT FRIENDLY with each other. Warners HAVEN’T even RE-CERTIFIED Madonna’s albums for DECADES. Had they, Madonna would be VERY NEAR (if NOT SURPASSING) the IRAA figure of Streisand and could even be the NUMBER ONE selling female artist in the US!

    AND considering that Mariah’s labels are RELATIVELY MORE UP TO DATE when it comes to Mimi’s certifications! And considering that Mariah IS OBSESSED with the charts!

    So INCONTROVERTIBLE CONCLUSION: Madonna IS the world’s biggest selling artist OF ALL TIME.

    II. ON RAPPING AND RNB

    Gurl, DEBBIE HARRY– BLONDIE– IS THE RECOGNIZED FIRST NON-HIPHOP ARTIST TO DO RAP IN A SONG IN 1981. Recognized by EXPERTS, HISTORIANS, ARTISTS, and MUSIC FANS. You CAN’T DO ANYTHING about it. Even I can’t do anything about it. And between Madonna and Mariah, it was Madonna WHO DID IT FIRST via Vogue!

    And whether you like it or not, the rap in Vogue is RECOGNIZED EVEN BY RAPPERS AND URBAN MUSIC EXPERTS AS RAP. Even the WEAKER KIND OF RAP done by Vincent Price in Thriller in 82 (which was WAAAY more TALK than rap than in Vogue) was RECOGNIZED as rap! So who are YOU to say it ain’t so?

    And Mimi’s rapping WASN’T EVEN SPECIAL to begin with! It was utterly lame and pedestrian attempt! It sounded so derivative of what one EXPECTS of what rapping is, utterly flat and amateurish! At least M’s vogue rap was celebrated and has STYLE and “PERSONALITY” ALL IT’S OWN. You may call it, white girl GLAM rap! LOL

    FACT.

    As to RnB.

    Gurl, Madonna’s music was JUDGED by many to be “Black Music” back in the day when she was starting, which was ESSENTIALLY RnB. When she did a more FULLY RnB sound in 83/84, she therefore predates Mimi’s efforts. So PLEASE STOP your delusions.

    As to rap collaborations, Madonna ALREADY collaborated with a rapper for her 1990 Blond Ambition Tour! MILLIONS saw it. Her collab with Shakur WAS WELL KNOWN in the hiphop world and was fairly publicized owing to both Madonna’s and Shakur’s controversial personalities and the rumors surrounding their relationship and the excitement of THE QUEEN OF POP DOING MUSIC WITH THE REIGNING BAD BOY OF HIP HOP. The song was included without Shakur but with another famous artist (M’shell) rapping Shakur’s part another way.

    Once again, Madonna has beaten Mariah to the punch. And you can’t do anything about it.

    The difference is Mariah made rapper collaborations HER hallmark and OVERDID it, realizing that rappers CAN HELP GET HER HER #1s in a HEAVILY hip hop music market, as well as her LONGED FOR “STREET CRED” from the hiphop world… You know what? Mimi TRIED SO HARD to be accepted and “seen” as black; Madonna just LOVED and RESPECTED black people, and she has GREAT rep among black artists and black audience.

    And to say that without Mariah there can be no female hiphop or RnB is utter DISRESPECT to the REAL AND GREAT female hiphop and RnB artists WHO THEMSELVES MADE GREAT MARKS in Hiphop and RnB music and the PUBLIC waaay before Mariah switched format from pop gospel to RnB/mongrel hip hop in her obsessive quest for #1s!

    Queen Latifah, Blige, Salt N’Peppa, Whitney Houston (who also did RnB), En Vogue, etc. etc. etc.

    Mariah did NOT change music, she just RODE on the BANDWAGON OF THE ASCENDANT HIPHOP IN THE mid 90s. Hip Hop was ALREADY DOMINANT by then, BEFORE her, and even WITHOUT her it would still be dominant for it was the format that demographic researches already say is the MOST PROFITABLE genre.

    III. EVEN “HATERS” RECOGNIZE MIMI AS THE FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME

    Dear… oh, you.. have you…?.. HAHAHAHAHA

    Sorry to POINT OUT THE OBVIOUS, but NO, THEY HAVEN’T.

    NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would say that Mimi is THE Female ARTIST of all time and such gigantic shizz..

    NO ONE.

    for she AIN’T.

    GET OVER IT.

    IV. MIMI DOESN’T CHART WELL IN THE WORLD BUT ACTUALLY SELLS MORE (singles, etc.)

    You are OUT of your mind.

    Mariah DOES NOT and DID NOT sell more. She mostly ONLY got her #1s in Billboard Hot 100 DUE TO AIRPLAY which comprises a stupid 50% WEIGHT. Her payola (courtesy of Sony and Medina and herself, of course) and later her payola-download repressions combo, gave her great AIRPLAY leading to her many #1s. But in ACTUALITY, her singles SALES WERE LOW.

    And though I LAUGH at a “tell me” or “show me” type of challenge, I’d play one for you: TELL ME OR SHOW ME RELIABLE PROOF THAT SHOWED MARIAH SOLD MORE SINGLES ON A PER SINGLE BASIS WORLDWIDE THOUGH SHE DID NOT CHART AS WELL.

    And watsup with this OVERRELIANCE OF 1990s figures to JUSTIFY her ALL TIME stature??? Gurl, WW Mariah is ACTUALLY NO.2 BEHIND MADONNA herself among ALL ARTISTS, group or solo, in the OVERALL WORLD CHARTS performance FOR THE ENTIRE 1990s! Check out “The World’s Music Charts” @ tsort.info.music

    The 90s are but a fragment of the whole frame. Madonna RULED THE ENTIRE THREE (and now going to FOUR) decades she’s been in Entertainment.

    To be continued next post..

  205. samanticx says:

    Continued!

    V. ON THE BIAS OF “INSTITUTIONS” AGAINST MARIAH

    Honey, PLEASE.

    They (Rolling Stones, Spin, Vibe, vH1, MTV, Blender, Slant, NYTimes, NYDaily News, Entertainment Weekly, Time, Newsweek, USA Today, People, ARTISTS, R&R HOF, Life, Women in Rock, Essentials Books, etc. etc., etc).. are NOT biased against Mariah, except that for the most part, they are biased against BAD MUSIC and against the notion that if something sells then it must be GOOD.

    Mariah has NO ALBUMS in the GREATEST LISTS for her albums ARE SIMPLY NOT WORTHY.

    Is THAT your “ARTIST OF ALL TIME”???

    It doesn’t mean that if something sells then it is good. If so, then lord, THE MACARENA would be one of the GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME! And THAT would be stupid.

    Is that concept NEW TO YOU??

    So, it is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that a big selling artist like Mariah is NOT considered an artistic heavyweight.. (oh, she IS a heavyweight, but that’s getting LITERAL! Hahaha!).. for it’s been experienced MANY TIMES. And Mimi is ONE of those BIG SELLERS but who do NOT have ANY MASTERPIECE.

    And Mariah’s CONTRIBUTION to music is LIMITED to showing the world her melismatic range. Her calling card WAS her voice and her songs that are actually (and early on) VERY RADIO FRIENDLY in its SAPPINESS AND COMMERCIAL APPEAL. Her music sold to Houston’s demographic, to Streisand’s demographic who like to hear their divas rachet up the vocals and dramatics. Her music is NOT groundbreaking. Her rap collaborations, though noteworthy as a relic of a time when such a thing was DOMINANT (unfortunately), were at best MEDIOCRE musically, artistically.

    Then she worsened things by giving us TOTALLY TUNELESS hiphop garbage and replicating the formula time and again for desperate charts action.

    Listen, Mimi’s albums are ALL commercially geared. Even she LATER ON gave up on her artistic pretensions! She has had albums and songs with great reviews, but great reviews tackle only a PART of how one’s music should be evaluated for contribution as a whole, or for significance. And frankly, NONE of Mariah’s work ever rose up to the level of significance artistically or as influence that could elevate her, the artist, to that level of significance that Madonna finds herself in.

    Notice that Mariah’s THEMES are repetitively about the I love you boy, I hate you boy, I’m confused about you boy, variety.. as well as the USUAL and TRITE we can make it through and you’re special too variety. It would’ve helped if her lyrics have that rich complexity or layerings or even stunningly sublime yet masterful simplicity, but NO, none of her music has that. Her lyrics are trite and obvious.

    She could have a BETTER shake with the influence of her SINGING. But, alas, her rapid-fire, multi-note per syllable deliveries ended up being an annoying contrivance than really moving singing forward. Beyonce ACTUALLY did such ahead of her and, honestly, better. And her high vocals, as I’ve said, turned singing into an acrobatic sport instead of COMMUNICATING the emotional truth in the song. So, sorry, FAIL again.

    Even OTHER ARTISTS, despite the sweet talk and ass-kissing quotes by some of them on her, at the end of the day DON’T SEE MARIAH as that significant as an artist.

    Madonna– though unfairly derided for weak vocals– has shown GREAT MUSICAL ARTISTRY. She explored like NO OTHER FEMALE artist has when it comes to music and its diversity. MANY FEMALE ARTISTS can rightfully claim GREATER musical talent that she has– Bjork, Fiona Apple, Kate Bush, the list could go on– but NONE of them achieved a GREATER RANGE of musical output and longevity at the very top and, most of all, ARTISTIC AND STYLISTIC IMPACT THAT SHAPED THE MUSIC BUSINESS like she has. That’s why Madonna is so significant, the MOST significant female artist EVER.

    Like A Prayer alone is judged by many as, truly, ONE OF THE GREATEST POP ALBUMS OF ALL TIME.

    Ray of Light alone is adjudged by many as one of the GREATEST ELECTRONICA ALBUMS OF ALL TIME.

    The Immaculate Collection is adjudged as one of the TRUE ESSENTIAL albums (compilations) of all time.

    And even Madonna’s singing has found supporters: Time, Rolling Stones, USA Today, etc., who say that her voice, though not technically strong, can reveal nuances that makes her OWN her songs and sing them like NO OTHER CAN with as much verve or effect. For example, the great theater singer with great voice, Patti Lupone has just released a Madonna cover and it was a DISASTER. But Madonna sang it wonderfully!

    As to public impact, HOW can Mariah have a greater public impact when MADONNA IS PREFERRED MORE BY MORE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD?? There are MORE Madonna covers than one can count. Madonna’s music is bought more.. Madonna is EMULATED more.. And Madonna is ATTENDED WAY MUCH MORE LIVE than Mimi can even FRACTIONALLY hope for!

    Dear, Mimi’s impact was more US radio-based and even THAT is GONE NOW.

    And so, YES INDEED, Madonna’s MUSICAL LEGACY FAR OUTSTRIPS Mariah’s in ALL METRICS by ALL CONSTITUENTS, be they media, other artists and music industry people, or general music fans.

    FACT.

    Get over it.

    VI. MADONNA IS JUST A BUSINESS WOMAN

    Dear ALL OF THEM are business people. AND THEY SHOULD BE IF THEY ARE SMART. Music is now a LOW INCOME proposition by the day!

    Mariah is SELLING YOU her (wretched) perfume! She’s planning on selling you MATERNITY DRESSES, for goodness sakes! hahahaha

    And yes, Madonna is the BEST IN BUSINESS out there, though Beyonce is giving her stiff competition!

    But Madonna has proven her artistic impact, so just expanding her brand as a business empire is just wonderful.

    VI. MADONNA JUST SPREADS HER LEGS.

    And what SPECTACULAR legs they are! LOL

    Yeah, Madonna is SEXUAL, she can’t help it.

    But what separates Madonna from your run-of-the-mill sluts is that Madonna is slutty in regards to WORK, and her being SEXUAL has POLITICS to it; she has a GREATER SOCIO-CULTURAL AGENDA. She makes women OWN up to their own sexuality and fantasies. She even now tells women that advanced age is NO excuse NOT to be sexual. Women can be highly sexual even at 50! That is so liberating for many!.. And so disgusting for many who are limited of mind and who are THREATENED by whatever Madonna does! Madonna uses her sexuality rather organically and smartly. And she just oozes sex and sex appeal!.. Yet around town, she’s actually trying to live as an ordinary person (though, of course, she’s still MADONNA) and seems so unaffected..

    As for Mimi, she TRIES to be sexy all the time but ENDS UP HILARIOUSLY, RIDICULOUSLY FUNNY AND SKANKY.

    That’s ALL. ;)

    Hahahah

    VII. LEGACY

    Musically, artistically, Madonna towers over Mariah

    Commercially, Madonna towers over Mariah

    Philanthropy– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Business and wealth– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Social impact and influence– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Historical significance– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Game changer– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Artistic Influence– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Style influence– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Performing talent– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Vocals– Mariah towers over Madonna– but that is OVER! lol

    Singing– Madonna TRUMPS Mariah

    Sex Appeal– Madonna towers over Mariah

    Fame– Madonna waaay towers over Mariah

    GLOBAL STAR– Madonna! Mariah is way out of sight!

    TRUE ICON GIANT OF POP CULTURE: Madonna is way up there. Mariah can’t BEGIN to keep up.

    THE GREATEST FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME: MADONNA

    followed by Streisand… Franklin… Garland.. Francis.. Holiday.. Houston.. several MORE!… then Mimi…

    FACT.

    GET OVER IT.

  206. samanticx says:

    btw.. as FURTHER CLEAR EVIDENCE of Mariah’s OBSESSION with getting another #1, she recently tweeted that she’s so happy that she’s BACK AT NUMBER ONE!!

    In the BB HOLIDAY DIGITAL SINGLES CHARTS!!!

    Hahahaha!!

    She tweeted, thus:

    “Ok, so I’m a “lil excited” that Oh Santa is #1!!!!!! YAY + THANK U 2 ALL!!! LYM!

    then

    “Just saw the Billboard Holiday Chart!!!!”

    NOW, QUICK, WHAT OTHER NEW HOLIDAY SONG IS RELEASED OUT THERE???

    NONE.

    Hahahaha!!!

    This is similar to the same Mimi boasting that her other Christmas song before (i forgot what it was) went to #1 in the Seasonal RING TONES charts!! Repeat, SEASONAL RING TONES CHARTS!

    OH- EM- GEE!

    Hahahaha!

    So pathetic! Seriously. :D

    And don’t you know, dear lambs, that some cuts in her new Christmas album (the cover of which is HILARIOUS considering… LOL) .. were recorded MANY YEARS AGO? Back when she had a better voice?

    Now, isn’t THAT cheating IF they’re packaged as “new” and not “never before released”?

    And further, she and her team keep on saying that her previous Christmas album (the title eludes me) is the most successful! Well, it’s NOT. Streisand’s 60s Christmas album has to date SOLD MORE. And I submit, that Bing Crosby’s Christmas album (which includes “White Christmas”, one of the– if not THE– biggest selling SINGLES of all time) sold more!

    Gawd.

    No wonder the lambs are the same.

    OH MY.

  207. samanticx says:

    BTW.. Madonna NEVER did a press release, much less told it herself, that she had surpassed Elvis with the most top 10s… and top 5s. Nor did she when she had her 40th #1 in the BB Dance Charts. Nor when her Concert DVD went #1 in DVD charts. Nor when she topped pollstars ranking of Top Grossing Concert tours in ’08-’09. When ASKED, she just says THANK YOU, without boasting, yet she IS a very HONEST person and even very egotistical. She’s just not THAT ridiculous. Her life is NOT based on charts! It’s based on her DOING, CREATING, BEING THE BEST SHE CAN BE IN ANYTHING SHE DOES.

    She did send a message of THANK YOU when Glee’s album of their versions of her songs (Power of Madonna) went #1 in Billboard Top 200 Albums… but she also EXPRESSED SURPRISE that it did!

  208. STACY says:

    Lambs are out of control ? Really ? We’ll see that .Lambs are delusionals ? We are not,as everything we post lie on FACTS and ACCOMPLISHMENTS, not on delusional partial and subjective claims or assertions! It’s rather Madonna’s supporters who are delusionals . Our assertions are corehent,without any contradictions .It’s even your’s that are full of contradictions .
    For example,in your post # 165,you’ve already claimed that Susan Boyle’s Christmas album blown away Mariah’s as it was # 1 in Amazon pre-orders,but now,more than 1 month ago since this post and only a few days before the release of holiday albums ,you try to ridicule Mariah’s # 1 rank in the Holiday Chart ! That ‘s what really pathetic !
    You said that Madonna is the World Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times ? Let me laugh, hahaha! Since when ? And you called lambs delusionals ???!! You see that the word delusional is for tou ! I think you should look up the word Delusional for yourself,cause that’s rather you ! Ha ha ! You dream Samanticx,Madonna NEVER did,nothing never prove it.Even her detailed datas sales can’t match with it.Besides,what do you call REPUTABLE institutions? Any institution which claim Madonna is the best selling female artist ? An institution which claimed in 2000 and 2003 that Madonna’s album sales reached 380 million,then 280 million since 2005 till 2010 ( it published it many times ) whereas in 2010 this same institution claim that Madonna’s albums sales for 2011 reach 200 million ? This institution show clearly that Madonna’s datas sales were falsified and biased,and not reliable ! Besides, Madonna’s recent total sale decrease by this claim,instead of increasing, like all other’s artists which increase,cause the institution had to face facts that Madonna’s data sales were exaggerated too much .Hahaha! It’s so stupid !You see that the real delusional ones are you and your mates ? Mariah is the REAL Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times because all her sales show it and prove it clearly ,since always,unlike Madonna’s.

  209. STACY says:

    You’re so obsessed by your hatred towards Mariah Carey that you keep an eye on every of her actions ,just to gossip on her ! Even many lambs didn’t yet seen Mariah’s thank-you message on her Twitter page,whereas you ,which is a hater ,saw it before them ! Ha ha !How PATHETIC is this ?!
    Anyway,there is nothing shameful on Mariah’s thank-you message ! What is shameful is Madonna’s degrading behaviors and sexual scandals,that she usually use for boosting her sales and celebrity.For example,Madonna’s public lesbian kiss with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera which was a publicity,to attract attention on her ! That’ what is ridiculous and shameful !Besides,it’s normal that Madonna doesn’t express satisfaction like Mariah do when she tops Charts,as Madonna know that it’s only thanks to her payola schemes and manipulations .So,she don’t have to be surprised .Furthermore,Madonna usually sleep with organizers and Radio presenters ,to lead Charts.Howard Stern is one among the dozens male presenters with whom Madonna slept ,for this purpose.

  210. STACY says:

    As to Rap,Madonna’s talkin in Vogue,and Vincent Price’s in Thriller are NOT RAP ! They are just talking,and will stay just TALK , no matter what say rappers or urban music experts ! They cannot decide that it’s RAP just because this is Madonna and Vincent Price who made it ! Unless everyone would agree that to talk is exactly the same thing than to Rap .So when people talk,they Rap ( just without any music under their talking ) ? Ha ha ! It’s really funny !It would be too easy to Rap,and real Rappers would have any particular merit over every non-Rapper people. But the fact still that to talk is not to Rap at all . It would also mean that EVERY artists who talk in their songs ( Boyz ll Men ,etc…) did Rap too.So,Rap would be more widespread than what anybody ever known ! But that’s simply UNTRUE !
    Mariah Carey Rapped true Rap ,the professional Rap every old and today’s RAPPERS always rapped ! New Edition,Run DMC,Snoop Dogg,Tupac,DMX,Eve,Lil’ Kim,Missy Elliot,and all other RAPPERS Rapped the same Rap Mariah Rapped in “Prisoner ‘,so the TRUE RAP. As Pop band,Backstreet Boys also rapped true Rap in their song We’ve Got It Goin’ On.There is any Rapper who ever ‘Rapped” the so-called and amateurish Rap Madonna or Vincent Price rapped ! So it’s untrue,they didn’t really rapped,they just talk .
    As to Rap Collaboration in Pop song,as everybody know,Mariah is the one which introduce this musical style in the world.Madonna’s collaboration with Tupac was a complete failure,not popular at all ,and it wasn’t even a part of hit parade anywhere,how it could be significant ? Even though many people saw it from Madonna’s 1990’s tour,there was end for it , it had any impact even on this public ,as nobody never talked about it till now ! Ha ha ! It stay a failure,and nobody never talk about it ,so that it is completely unknown,even towards Madonna’s fans ( except for you obviously )! It’s a lot too late trying to talk about it NOW, whereas this musical genre is already popularized by Mariah !Why anybody never even talk about it before Mariah’s revolution of Pop music ? Why even any Madonna fan never known it nor talk about it ? You see the difference ??? So it’s useless on trying to say now that it was popular ! Cause it wasn’t ! Mariah is the revolutionary of Pop music,and the master of the style Pop featuring Hip Hop,as EVERYBODY know.She also made easier the integration of this musical genre everywhere,even in Europe !
    Every Rappers and Hip Hop artists know and claim that Mariah Carey is the one who paved the way for Hip Hop today’s popularity! Mariah is the one who sacrificed her extraordinary success in Pop ,to launch Hip Hop/R&B as dominant musical Genre .Mariah is the revolutionary of Pop music ! Everybody know it .She’s the one from who every artists are inspired by the style Pop featuring Hip Hop,nobody else .

  211. STACY says:

    You lie one more time,Mariah always had much more # 1’s and success with her Pop/Ballads songs than with her R&B /Hip Hop stuff,that’s why her sales decreased relatively rightly since her first R&B album ! Mariah never tried so hard to be accepted and seen as Black.Mariah grew up in a multi-racial background,she had as much Black friends as White ones .However,She always feel more close to Black people because of her family’s situation and social conditions at the times of her youth ( racist persecutions and alienations ). She endured more than if she was White at 100 %..Besides,she also had a taste for Black music ( Gospel stuff/Black soul/R&B/Hip Hop ,etc..).That’s all !
    In the other hand,Madonna tried so hard to be accepted by Gay community ,and seen as an homosexual ( whereas she’s bisexual in real facts ).That’s why she had many public lesbian adventures,and also defend Gay’s cause ,so that she finally got the liking of Gay audience.Mariah,just love and respect Gay people ,and makes no difference among them and heterosexual people.She loves everybody the same way,no matter their sexual orientation .
    Mariah Carey is the queen of R&B.There was obviously many old R&B and Hip Hop female artists before Mariah, which made great marks in R&B and Hip Hop music,but all their efforts were border into the Black community only. They always struggled to bring their music beyond Black community ,but in vain. Queen Latifah,Blige,Salt n’ Peppa,En Vogue,Whitney Houston,etc….and also male Hip hop /R&B artists yeah they made Hip/R&B before Mariah,but THERE WAS ONLY A BLACK AUDIENCE for their music ! You could never heard of a Hip Hop /R&B music into a non-Black area ,or a residential quarter, before Mariah’s intervention in this musical genre ! This musical genre wasn’t popular towards the White community,before Mariah’s essential contribution. Now,yeah ! Of course,everybody can say you anything about Hip hop R&B artists and their music,contrary to the times before 1995-1997 !
    So Mariah change music ! MARIAH IS THE REVOLUTIONARY OF POP MUSIC.Anyone can change that fact ( or it would be too late by now )The Hip hop artists THEMSELVES know that very well and recognize that .Mariah made easier their integration into the non-Black community .Today,a Hip Hop artist ( Eminem ) is the best selling artist overall of a decade ( 2000’s ) ! !!!!! A Hip Hop artist ( Eminem ) is also one of most successful artists in Europe !!! How it could ever be possible before Mariah’s revolution ?
    Mariah didn’t just rode on the bandwagon of the ascendant Hip Hop in the mid 90’s,it’s untrue !
    First,Mariah leave directly Pop musical genre to land up directly in R&B /Hip Hop genre! Besides,she had any reason to RODE on any other musical genres ,as she was very successful in Pop,which was her musical genre ! Mariah’s lastest Pop album is even a part of best selling albums of all times.And Hip Hop/ R&B were not yet dominant at all in the mid 90’s ! POP MUSIC was dominant at these times ! that’s why,the top 5 best selling albums ,singles ,etc…in 1995,1996,1997,etc…were all Pop stuff ( or any other non-Hip hop / R&B stuff).Even in the Hit Parade,this musical genre were very rarely.Jagged Little Pill,Daydream,Falling Into You,Secrets,Spice Girls,Backstreet Boys,Let’s Talk About Love,Come On Over,etc were the top selling albums by the years Mariah turned to Hip hop R&B.However any of these albums is a R&B/hip hop album ! Any of the most popular song hits from these times was a Hip Hop /R&B hit ! So,this musical genre couldn’t’ be called then “ the most profitable genre “ !

  212. STACY says:

    About Mariah’s institutions haters,that’s obvious for everyone except for haters like you.You said that these institutions “are biased against bad Music and against the notion that if something sells then it must be good” Hahaha! But rightly,Mariah’s music sold better than Madonna’s ! You should say ‘ if something charts good then it must be good ‘. Mariah became the best selling female artist of the world after just 10 years of career ,and with only 9 releases !That’s mean her music sold much better than Madonna’s . How Mariah’s music could EVER sound bad beside Madonna’s ? That’s just impossible.Being sexual is all Madonna got as asset in music,while Mariah had extraordinary sing virtuosity and skills,extraordinary voice and so much talent and r” etc etc to see how many young people choose Celine’s Ballads to prove their vocal skills !usical creativity.Madonna just have sexual creativity ,which influence many people , BUT NOT MUSIC ! Finally,spent some time to auditions and live shows of song contests such as ”American Idol” , ”X-Factor” etc etc to see how many young people choose Mariah’s Ballads to prove their sing skills and ability! Did Madonna make music ? Did Madonna ever sing ? Without her sexual tactics ,extravagances and eccentricities sexual scandals and shamelessness ,Madonna would be nothing in music. Mariah is a true artist . She’s just a lucrative sexual object, who sell herself through music . A such pervert ,degenerated and talentless artist like Madonna could ever compete with Mariah on musical field. You must know that ass got nothing to do with music.Mariah’s music sell good because music lovers around the world trust in their deep feelings about good music from a true talented and soulful artist with an incredible voice and an unique talent.
    That’s why albums like MARIAH CAREY,MUSIC BOX, DAYDREAM,THE EMANCIPATION OF MIMI,etc.. are very solicited for their UNIQUE quality ,by music lovers around the world. Madonna will NEVER have an album as good as any of Mariah Carey’s
    So unlike Madonna, Mariah Carey is considered by everyone as a LEGENDARY SINGER.All Mariah’s albums are MASTERPIECES beside trash Madonna’s albums.
    Mariah’s CONTRIBUTION to music is showing the world her INCREDIBLE MUSICAL TALENT through her vocal virtuosity ,creativity and skill,her writing-producing skills and her exceptional sing capability on singing everything ,including great classics .Her contribution to music is not just an ability to gather people by showing her ass nor her breasts.Mariah show the world that she’s the ultimate singer and vocalist EVER.She proves that talent can be more impressive than eccentricities and tiring acrobatic dances.Mariah show the world that she can not only give voice,but also writing,composing and producing very good music with various lyrics and genres.Mariah got an UNIQUE voice,it’s normal that she show the world how much her voice is EXCEPTIONAL ,AMAZING and BEAUTIFUL while Madonna try to amaze the world by showing her body and her ass,obliged to being ‘hot’ everytime whereas she’s a middle-aged woman.Unfortunately,they have nothing special artistically to amaze anyone.

  213. STACY says:

    Mariah’s Merry Christmas is the best selling Christmas album of all times by a female artist.It surpassed Barbra Streisand’s Christmas album sales since long ago,everybody know that .All I Want For Christmas Is you is the best selling Christmas single by a female artist .On the other hand ,Madonna’s The Immaculate Collection is not the best selling compilation album,Eagles Greatest Hits sold more.
    Mariah’s Butterfly is the best selling R&B Contemporary album ,of all times.

  214. STACY says:

    In accordance with Madonna’s standards and criterions,artists like Susan Boyle would never break through in music.In facts,Madonna’s determinant standard to break through INTO MUSIC would mean to be : young,beautiful,thin,sexy,extravagant,eccentric ,shameless,etc ( true talent would not the most important )… it doesn’t match with seriousness,calmness,serenity,etc…besides and above of all ,it exclude every people whom are fat,relatively mature,simple and not pretty particulary,no matter how much they are talentuous.
    Britney Spears,Lady Gaga,Rihanna,etc…correspond all to Madonna’s .standards.Like Madonna ‘they are not great SINGERS, NOR VOCALISTS,.Their best lie on their image.Madonna and all those girls sell their music only through their image.however,artists like Susan Boyle,Celine Dion,Whitney Houston,Aretha Franklin,Barbra Streisand,Mariah Carey ( at her prime,though she was very beautiful and graceful then ) ,etc… sell their music only through their talent and thanks to their talent. Mariah changed her image since long ago,but still obviously as talentuous as before,and still sells her music because of its quality.

  215. STACY says:

    Yes,Madonna makes women own up to their own sexuality and fantasies etc… GREAT ! That’s why she influences teen girls to make them rebel towards their parents ? That’s why she encourage teen girls to test sexual intercourses with many boys and getting pregnant ? How many people fall into immorality,abortion,lesbianism,prostitution,etc… thanks to Madonna’s sexual influence in society ? Thanks to Madonna,the rate of pregnancy of female adolescents grows up ,specially in the countries Madonna is the most successful ( UK,USA,etc…).How many women quarrel and disobey their husband thanks to Madonna’s influence about women sexuality and fantasies? How many family broken thanks to Madonna’s influence on women ? That’s what we call great impact into society !

  216. STACY says:

    Mimi IS MORE SEXY AND MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN Madonna since long ago.This is Madonna who is HILARIOUS AND RIDICULOUS as she always been much more vulgar than really sexy.Don’t counfond vulgarity with sexyness.Madonna never was particulary sexy but vulgar,eccentric and extravagant.Mariah is beautiful and sexy like the ancient Sex-Symbols as Marilyn Monroe,Brigitte Bardot,Rita Hayworth,Jayne Mansfield,etc… Mariah is exactly like some supermodel such as Cindy Crawford,Naomi Campbell,Claudia Schiffer,Karen Mulder,Tyra Banks,Eva Herzigova,etc…Whereas Madonna is just eccentric and vulgar like porn stars such as Jenna Jameson,Marilyn Star,Sylvia Saint,Kobe Tai,Lexi Baccii,Mary Carey,Alana,etc…
    1. All their respective videos and photos show it obviously.Mariah blow away Madonna on beauty ,charm,grace and sexyness.
    2. All Madonna got over Mimi is crudeness and vulgarity.
    3. Mariah = Sexyness +Beauty+Grace.
    4. Madonna =Sexyness+ Crudeness+ Eccentricity
    5.

  217. STACY says:

    LEGACY
    Musically, artistically, Mariah towers over Madonna
    Business– Madonna towers over Mariah
    Beauty and Sexyness- Mariah towers over Madonna
    Musical impact and influence– Mariah towers over Madonna

    Musical History significance-Mariah towers Madonna
    Game changer– Mariah towers over Madonna
    Musical Revolution- Mariah towers over Madonna
    Artistic Influence– Mariah towers over Madonna
    Sing Style Influence– Mariah towers over Madonna
    Performing Talent– Mariah towers over Madonna
    Vocal Virtuosity– Mariah towers over Madonna
    Talent Skills- Mariah Eclipses Madonna
    Writing,Composing,producing- Mariah towers over Madonna
    Singing skills– Mariah KILLS Madonna
    Show and entertaining talent-Madonna towers Mariah
    Sex Appeal– Mariah towers over Madonna
    Sexual History significance– Mariah towers over Madonna
    Sexual Shocks-Madonna towers Mariah
    Eccentricity & Extravagances-Madonna towers Mariah
    Vulgarity– Madonna waaay towers over Mariah
    Crudeness-Madonna towers Mariah
    GLOBAL ARTIST– Mariah Carey! Madonna is knock out !
    TRUE ICON GIANT OF MUSIC OVERALL: Mariah is the deserving artist. .
    THE GREATEST FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME: MARIAH CAREY !!!
    Mimi is followed by Houston,Braxton,Franklin,Labelle, Streisand,Garland,Holiday, ,Summer,Turner, Dion ,Aguilera ,Knowles,Lewis ,Clarkson,Simpson,Boyle,Cyrus,Spears,Gaga, …All other female artists…then Madge at last…
    TRUE FACT !
    When God gave Talent,Voice,Musical creativity skills,Mariah Carey was the FIRST in line ! …

  218. MOFF says:

    Stacy?
    Are you crazy?

    In some things of your postings you are really correct.
    But most things you wrong are totally untrue!

    Madonna’s trash albums?
    How do you dare to call them TRASH ALBUMS ?
    ARE you serious?

    You call them trash albums while they sold millions of copies?

    And you still call Mariah as the best selling female artist, although everything is claiming that Madonna is it!
    Everything is clear, everything is discussed. END OF STORY
    There’s no doubt, Madonna is the best selling artist.
    No matter what Guinness say, if you COUNT right, Madonna has sold MORE!

    You don’t wanna hear the real truth, STACY!
    I can’t talk about the Vogue/Rap topic, because I don’t know that.
    But sales?
    STACY, Madonna has sold more records than Carey BY FAR!

    SEXAPPEAL is a thing of opinion. You can’t declare Mariah as the more beautiful and sexy woman!
    You dare?

    Stacy, think about what you say.

  219. Marish'sLamb says:

    MARIAH CAREY is “THE BEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST of ALL TIME !!” and the only Artist to have Most #1 Hits not only for a Decade, Century but for “ALL TIME !”

  220. MOFF says:

    3 Number ones in UK?
    1 in Germany?

    Worldwide: 2?

    Madonna’s got 15!

    Mariah cannot compete with her worldwide..

  221. TRISH says:

    Mariah= The best Female Artist of all times.
    Madonna =Attention Whore.

  222. MOFF says:

    Trish, shut your mouth!

    You suck.

  223. STACY says:

    Moff,I know you try to be objective in this debate.I didn’t want to upset any objective Madonna fans.I know Madonna’s sales surpass Mariah’s slighty.But Samanticx surely think she’s the most intelligent person on earth.She always insult Mariah and lambs by her annoying statements and lies.I just show and proved that she’s not at all.I also show that Madonna got much more degrading and shameful things in her life/career,than Mariah.So,she have to be careful in what she post.
    Mariah may not be more successful than Madonna currently,but she’s very close to her.
    And there is many other things in which Mariah is better than Madonna.Everything proves that Mariah is the female artist of all times.
    This is my last post.

  224. STACY says:

    Moff,I didn’t really want to upset you,nor other Madonna’s fans.But Samanticx didn’t stop since long ago to provoke lambs deliberately on denigrate Mariah’s accomplishments.You must notice it.She said some mad things about Mimi,as a lamb,I just reply to her and behave like she did.This is my last post here,I hope you stay objective Moff. Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times,Mariah is very close to her.But Mariah is the female artist of all times,End of Story.

  225. samanticx says:

    Hahahahaha

    I can’t stop laughing… hahahaha.. please.. have mercy!!!… hahahahaa!

    VERBAL DIARRHEA from STACY galore!!!

    All fury signifying NOTHING.

    Nothing of truth; nothing of coherence; nothing of sense;

    All addled gibberish full of WILD delusions!

    Hahahaha!

    It’s a SPECTACLE, I swear! LOL

    I think she’s on a parallel universe with OPPOSITE sets of reality and her posts, for some weird reason, just happen to be read here on REAL EARTH!

    I know, I know.. weird.. But HOW ELSE can her otherwordly posts be explained??!!

    Hahahahaha!

    NOW, I feel sorry for Mariah! Seriously.

    OMG.

    HAHAHAHAHA

  226. samanticx says:

    Ok.. sorry abt that ^.. but STACY is just too funny!

    On to “business”, as they say ;)

    Let’s FIRST go to NUMBERS (Mariah’s & her Lambs’ OBSESSION! LOL)

    MADONNA SOLD THE MOST NUMBER OF ALBUMS AND SINGLES in the WORLD of ALL TIME for a WOMAN ARTIST. #4 of ALL ARTISTS (after Beatles, Elvis, MJ*). #3 of ALL ARTISTS FOR CERTIFIED WORLD SALES (after Beatles & Elvis)

    – Per Guinness Records
    – Per IFPI
    – Per INDEPENDENT Tallies by Various Music Charts and Sales Organizations/Groups/Efforts

    Estimates range from 275-300 million (or more).

    GENEROUS estimates for Mariah hover at around 165-190 (or at best 200) million. Some estimates place CELINE DION’S numbers at about the same or HIGHER than Mariah’s.

    Hey, NUMBERS NOT MINE. ;)

    Madonna is #2 is all-time sales in the US market (behind Streisand)
    Madonna is #1 in all-time sales in Europe
    Madonna is #1 in all-time sales in South America
    Madonna is #1 in all-time sales in Asia
    Madonna is #1 in all-time sales in Australasia

    but since in the US, many of M’s albums have NOT been recertified beyond the INITIAL certifications (some albums have not been recertified by WB FOR TWO DECADES!), her TRUE US certifications COULD catapult her slightly just below, or at, or even above Streisand’s numbers ;)

    Now, these figures are not mine. They are from Sales-Devoted channels/organizations. Even MADONNA’S HATERS concede she’s the ALL-TIME female champ in records sales! .. But Stacy’s figures are HER OWN (or perhaps by Mariah’s team! LOL).. and all evidences are NOT recognized by her due to her UNFAILING belief, despite NO BACKUP, that Mariah sold more (and there’s just a grand conspiracy against her! By the Illuminati, perhaps? Hahahahaha!)

    VERDICT: MADONNA WINS! (of course!!! LOL)

    CHARTS:

    US:

    According to Billboard, MADONNA IS THE ALL-TIME TOP CHARTING ARTIST, MALE OR FEMALE! Only a group or band– The Beatles, of course– ranks above her.

    So, accdg. to Billboard, Madonna is THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SOLO ARTIST IN THE BILLBOARD CHARTS! Of ALL TIME.

    Mariah, per Billboard, to her credit (or discredit considering HOW she got them! LOL) has THE MOST #1 singles of ALL SOLO ARTISTS, MALE OR FEMALE! Congrats to her!

    Per Billboard, Streisand has the MOST #1 ALBUMS (and the ONLY ARTIST to have #1 albums in FIVE DECADES, from the 60s to the 00s! NO OTHER ONE EVEN HAS #1 IN 4 DECADES! Whew!). She has 9. Madonna is 2nd. Mariah, again, 3rd.

    Madonna has MOST #2 in both songs AND albums EVER. Madonna has most Top 5s and most Top 10s (the most for ANY act– male, female, or group!)

    Madonna has 41 #1s in the Dance Charts, more than TWICE the nearest competitor!

    US WINNER: Madonna!

    WORLD:

    “Justify My Love” is slated to be Madonna’s 18th United World Charts #1 this month (UWC has not finished compiling statistics for its comprehensive world charts records and so MANY 80s and a FEW 90s weeks are due for counts, so EXPECT MORE #1s from Madonna!).

    So, BY FAR, Madonna is the ARTIST, male, female OR group with the MOST NUMBER ONES AROUND THE WORLD! Mariah has 3.

    Bear in mind also that BILLBOARD (Mariah’s supposed bastion) is HEAVILY counted in weighing global #1s! So without BB, Mariah would NEVER have even a single #1!

    in another comprehensive charts organization, the WORLD’S MUSIC CHARTS (WMC), Madonna, once again DOMINATES. She’s the 4th singles artists overall and the highest ranked female. She’s the 1st female albums artist!

    On a per entry basis (meaning, #1 entry per country at a given time), MADONNA IS THE TOP SOLO ARTIST (MALE OR FEMALE) as having the one with the MOST #1 singles entries with 155 #1 singles entries! Only the Beatles top her!… AND take this, she’s also the SOLO ARTIST, male or female, WITH THE MOST #1 ALBUMS ENTRIES OF ALL TIME with 76. Again ONLY the Beatles have more!

    So, read people, Lambs, etc. Madonna has MORE #1 entries– singles and albums– than ELVIS OR MICHAEL JACKSON or ANYONE or ANY GROUP but the Fab Four!

    WHEW!

    MORE!

    Madonna also has the MOST NUMBER OF YEARS AS #1 ARTIST FOR THE YEAR OF ANY SOLO ACT, MALE OR FEMALE!

    On a per decade basis, here goes:

    1980s– PRINCE is #1 overall charting artist with Madonna at #2! (no Mariah)

    1990s– MADONNA is the #1 overall charting artist followed by Mariah! (congrats Mariah for chucking a #2! LOL)

    2000s– MADONNA is the 4th overall charting artist (with NO Mariah in the top 10!)

    Now, these figures are from people WHO ARE NOT EVEN FANS OF MADONNA!

    WORLD CHARTS VERDICT: NO CONTEST. Madonna CLOBBERS anyone, let alone Mariah! LOL

    So, STACY, you believe in conspiracy theories? Or you still say what you say is right coz it’s what you think so or wish? Hahahahaah!

    SO, FINAL VERDICT: SALES, MADONNA WINS; CHARTS, MADONNA WINS!

    DECLARATION: Madonna is the biggest-selling and best-charting Female Artist of All Time.

    SEALED AND DONE.

    NO IFs, NO ARGUMENT. WITH FINALITY. STAMPED!

    LOL

  227. samanticx says:

    AS ARTIST.

    Well, I grant the Lambs THEIR PERSONAL PREFERENCES. If that is the basis, then NO ONE WINS, unless you count the # of people who bought their music as basis, and in such a case, MADONNA WINS! LOL

    But, since, artistry can be evaluated by evaluators (presumably by those with cred to evaluate), then the verdict is in: MADONNA WINS.

    Madonna has MORE albums in the 500 Greatest Albums List for a woman artist with FOUR albums. Mariah? NONE.

    Time magazine has Like A Prayer as the BEST ALBUM of 1989 (& so one of the All-Time 100; Mariah NONE)

    Let’s go to the 90s (Mariah’s decade): vH1 just released their list of the best/greatest 90s albums and RAY OF LIGHT is included. Mariah? NONE.

    ALL THE OTHERS DECLARE MADONNA as one of the greatest females ARTISTS in music. There.

    Madonna’s albums are in the Essentials Book. Mariah? NONE.

    Comprehensive polls by music listeners, by other artists, etc., of the BEST or GREATEST or MOST INFLUENTIAL artists ALL have Madonna ranking WAY higher than Mariah.

    So, is there a conspiracy? LOL

    Now, if ever the choice is WHO IS THE ARTIST WHO INFLUENCED MUSIC MORE?

    Then the answer is clear: MADONNA.

    Let’s talk abt Mariah first:

    Mariah is a hot-selling pop gospel singer in the mould of Whitney Houston when she started. Nothing influential; just popular. When she tried more RnB and hiphop in he mid-90s, hiphop is ALREADY at the top, with MANY top charting WOMEN artists! She RODE on the hiphop bandwagon and got herself more hits. But was she influential? NO. In fact, she’s mostly a follower. Madonna, NOT a hiphop artist, did it first and made groundbreaking musical collaborations that even influenced hiphop. But other artists like Aaliyah (or Blige) made hiphop music THEMSELVES & colloborated with rappers to GREAT effect and charts and sales. Some are even rappers themselves or have rappers (Latifah or TLC). Mariah RODE on it, but used the RENT-A-RAPPER tactic to the extreme with her every other release featuring a rapper! Her fans thought her creative, but NO, she was being a follower and even cynically charts-obsessed. And NONE of her collabs would prove classic or durable musically speaking. In the late 90s, RnB-pop singers liked to sing in rapid-fire style (compressing several notes in a syllable) like Beyonce (Destiny’s Child, etc) and Mariah followed. And the results are like scratching chalkboard to the ears! LOL

    Rapping? oh RAPPING. LOL

    Blondie (Debbie Harry) was the FIRST to have a major RAP hit in the early 80s. (I wonder WHY Stacy sidesteps this, too painful to acknowledge the truth? LOL).. Even STREISAND (Hah! she’s the FURTHEST from anything RAP! lol, BUT STILL..) sang a pseudo-rap in 1976!

    Madonna did rap in the ’89 penned (& ’90 released) Vogue. IT IS RAP. (Stacy insists not even THOUGH rappers THEMSELVES say it IS rap! Hahahaha!). Mariah did an obscure and AWFUL (and pedestrian) rap in an early (1st) album in ’90 w/c was never released.

    Now, Madonna…

    Madonna established DANCE as THE dominant POP GENRE.

    Influenced music by releasing a CONFESSIONAL ALBUM in Like A Prayer(whereby there was an EXPLOSION of confessional albums after!).. LAP was considered as “close to art as pop music gets”, or “the most glorious pop album since the Beatle’s White Album” (not my words)… Influenced music by releasing the FIRST REMIX album by a major solo artist! And more than any major solo artist, established the significance of the remix as an important adjunct tool in getting out the music! Since her remixes, artists like MJ, U2, &, yeah, Mariah, have employed remixes on their songs!

    Brought to the mainstream the once derided “electronica” genre by making one of the best/greatest albums of the genre, Ray of Light. After ROL, electronica exploded in use and adherents in the US mainstream. Even hiphop (not the hiphop/electronica fusion in Europe) fused electronica after ROL! See? she made the uncool very cool! That’s INFLUENCE.

    Reestablished DANCE in ’05 with COADF and with the advent of Gaga, Kesha, Perry, dance now is the dominant genre

    Lyrically speaking, Madonna’s run the gamut: from the silliest lyrics up to the most sublime and even mystical. She can do uber simple and also uber complicated and even with that Sondheim style of playing with words and meanings.

    Mariah’s lyrics have been nothing but consistent. Consistent in mediocrity and samey lamey pap. For Mariah it’s about boy I like you, boy I love you, boy you hurt me, come boy love me, boy I have a number one.. and we can make it through the rain! LOL

    Seriously. Mariah’s lyrical output verges on the mind-numbing banal.

    VERDICT: FEMALE MUSIC ARTIST OF ALL TIME: MADONNA.

    NO CONTEST.

  228. samanticx says:

    VIDEOS.

    GAWD. THERE IS NO NEED TO DISCUSS THIS!

    YOU CAN EVEN SEE THE WINNER FROM SPACE!

    Hahahaha!

    Madonna is the #1 Video Artist, Male or Female.

    End of.

  229. samanticx says:

    STAGE PERFORMANCE

    Hahahaha! Another NO CONTEST!

    Mariah can barely WALK across the stage, let alone PERFORM! Hahahahah!

    Seriously. If a singer CAN’T PERFORM, WHAT’S THE POINT?? LOL

    Streisand or Franklin are NOT dancers either, but they OWN the stage. Even by just standing!

    How come Mariah is utterly FLAT on stage despite her… heft?

    Hahahahaha!

    And who are the audience? Are there any? Yoohoohh! Anyone there??

    Hahahahah!

  230. samanticx says:

    ^ btw, Stacy inconsistency alert #253: she claims Mariah “towers” over Madonna in PERFORMING TALENT (Hahahaha, I nearly fell off my chair laughing!), yet puts Madonna ahead in stage entertaining! Dear, stage entertaining IS performing talent.

    BTw, as to Susan Boyle.. that’s why Mariah’s song charted #1 in the Holidays charts for Boyle has NOT released a song yet!

  231. samanticx says:

    I think I made my points more than clear– and boy, I’ve said a LOT! LOL– and I may have to put on the breaks.. I may have pounded a little too strong. Sorry. LOL

    To STACY.. Dear, honestly, I do get to laugh at your posts.. but, really, I honestly DON’T want to hurt YOU or ur feelings, but I just can’t resist setting the record straight. So be cool, I don’t take or give things PERSONALLY. In fact I DON’T HATE MARIAH AT ALL! She’s a highly accomplished woman. She amuses me, though..

    And I’m sure you’re smart, it’s just ur posts here are out of whack.

    You love Mariah, I love Madonna. That’s the way it is… Go on loving Mariah, that’s ur choice.

    Ok?

    OK.

    Ciao!

  232. Ricardo says:

    What ? Madonna # 1 Asia and Austrasia ? Are you crazy ? Mariah is the all-times # 1 on sales in Asia & Austrasia, ! You talk about # 1 hits or about sales ?Celine Dion is the all times # 1 seller in Europe and Canada.Madonna is the all times # 1 seller where ? Go and see a doctor .

  233. MOFF says:

    Madonna is the top seller in Europe when we talk about TOTAL sales.
    Because Madonna sells much more singles than Celine Dion.
    Celine Dion is a huge albums seller.
    Therefore, Madonna is the top selling female artist in Europe

  234. CELINE RUUUUUUUULES ! says:

    @ Samanticx and Moff,you are totally wrong.The real Winner of this debate is Celine Dion ! Europe belongs to Celine,not to Madonna.Asia belong to Mariah.Moreover,Celine got Africa and Australia market too.Madonna got any continent,even US market belong to Barbra ,not to her.Celine got two albums selling over 64 million copies worldwide,Mariah nor Madonna never could realize that performance.The real best selling Female artist of all times is Celine Dion followed by Mariah.Madonna is third.
    @ STACY . You are wrong Mariah is not the female artist of all times,Celine is.Celine accomplish much more than Mariah in music. All that Mariah got over Celine is her Whistle register,nothing else.Celine is most soulful and most skilful than Carey.Her voice is better than Carey’s…LMAO !. About Madonna,she’s even doesn’t know sing,but sells her image…))).Celine is the most respected female artist.She’s simple although she’s the most successful.Madonna and Mariah sells their respective image,not real music…Lol!.Celine sells music,very good music.Madonna is not worthy to be compare with true singers…Lol!
    Celine rules,Mariah followed her…the Madonna …Lol!
    Celine is the best selling female artist of all times and the greatest female artist ever ! …LMAO! END OF STORY !
    1 Celine
    2 Mariah
    3 Madonna

  235. MOFF says:

    Silly arguments, stupid responses. Untrue statements.
    What do you think about us?

    Sorry.-… but you ARE TOTALLY WRONG

    On most talented we can fight.

    Most successful: MADONNA ALL THE WAY!

    Madonna sold morw albums than Celine and Mariah.
    She has sold more singles!

    She has more number ones than Celine and Mariah worldwide!

    SORRY BUT SHUT UP!

  236. Celine Forever ! says:

    Sorry Moff,but your Madonna isn’t worthy to be compare with Madonna.Your PATHETIC !… Celine sold more albums than Madonna.Madonna sold more singles than Celine,that’s all.You’re stupid Moff ! More number ones doesn’t mean more success nor more sales….LMAO ! Celine rules ! Even Mariah sold more albums than Madonna although Mariah is ranked behind Celine.Celine is the highest grossing tour in the world.She’s the artist of the millenenium,not Mariah,none Madonna.Did Madonna got a single which sold as good as My Heart Will Go On ? On Talent,Madonna is a zero artist…Lol!Do Madonna could ever sing All By Myself or My Heart Will Go On ? No,even Mariah can’t sing these soulful songs.Do you know even 1 female artist whom is as soulful as Celine ? She kills Mariah on voice beauty and skills .Madonna ??? She’d better learn to sing cause she doesn’t know sing,only dance….))) Celine is the best,don’t try to say that Madonna is a good artist ok? As she’s too far from it. Celine ! Celine ! Celine !

  237. Celine Forever ! says:

    Moff,Samanticx and STACY. Go and get a life.Mariah and Madonna will don’t ever be worthy to compete with Celine.Celine is a legend,she got everything,she rules !

  238. MOFF says:

    Get out of here and look for the truth.
    Sorry if I must say that.

    Celine has never sold more albums than Madonna.
    Celine isn’t the most soulful singer, but that’s matter of opinion, although I prefer than Celine to Mariah.

    Celine is not the biggest selling female album artist, and not the best selling of all time (singles + albums)!

  239. samanticx says:

    Oh my!

    What have we here?

    Lambs replaced by EQUALLY DELUDED Dion stans! LOL

    Oh, Ricardo & Celine Rules the Cheese.. get SCHOOLED.

    Here is the TOP 20 ALL-TIME EUROPEAN ALBUM SALES as of June 2008:

    Rank / Artist / Total sales
    1 / Beatles – 92,500,000
    2 / Queen – 80,050,000
    3 / MADONNA – 74,600,000 [incl. 1M for Hard Candy]
    4 / Michael Jackson – 70,200,000 [incl. 1M for Thriller 25]
    5 / Pink Floyd – 69,900,000
    6 / U2 – 59,300,000
    7 / Phil Collins – 55,200,000
    8 / Rolling Stones – 53,800,000
    9 / Elton John – 52,600,000
    10 / ABBA – 52,300,000
    10 / Dire Straits – 52,300,000
    12 / Celine Dion – 51,900,000 [incl. 1M for Taking Chances]
    13 / Rod Stewart – 43,500,000
    14 / Elvis Presley – 43,300,000
    15 / Bee Gees – 41,500,000
    16 / Robbie Williams – 40,800,000
    17 / Genesis – 39,900,000
    18 / Bruce Springsteen – 37,600,000
    19 / Simply Red – 36,900,000
    20 / Paul McCartney – 35,400,000

    That means while Madonna is comfortably way up as the THIRD biggest selling artist (male, female, group) of ALL TIME in Europe (and the highest ranking NON-EUROPEAN and the BIGGEST SELLING SOLO ARTIST), Celine IS NOT EVEN in the Top 10! Your Celine is merely in 12th place! (and Mariah is not even in the Top 20!)

    Celine only topped Madonna in ONE MARKET in Europe (w/c is France), while Madonna is a CLOSE 2nd there and RULES EVERYWHERE else!

    So to summarize Female Artist ranking in Europe:

    best-selling female artist in Europe

    1 – Madonna – 74,600,000
    2 – Celine Dion – 51,700,000
    3 – Whitney Houston – 31,800,000
    4 – Tina Turner – 28,000,000
    5 – Mariah Carey – 26,700,000
    6 – Sade – 24,400,000
    7 – Barbra Streisand – 24,000,000

    The difference between #1(Madonna) and #2 (Celine) is a GAPING 22.9 Million! (and has sinced WIDENED as Madonna continues to sell BIGGER in Europe than Celine even as we *speak*! Celine is also a big flop in Germany!

    So… PLZ.

    As to Australia.. Madonna IS the foreign artist with the MOST HITS in Australia and is the highest charting and selling female artist there.

    There is a greater difficulty ascertaining numbers in Asia, but in Japan, Madonna and Mariah are neck and neck, while Madonna outsells Mariah most everywhere else. (btw, Mariah was from SONY, so… LOL)

    In Latin America, NO CONTEST. Madonna RULES. She is the biggest seller in the Top 3 Markets in L.America: in Mexico, Brazil, and Argentina.

    Now, let’s get to the “artist” part.

    Celine is a SINGER OF OTHER PEOPLE’S SONGS, and even if Mariah makes insipid music, AT LEAST SHE WROTE/CO-WROTE MANY OF THEM. Celine just SINGS. So, dears she CANNOT be the “artist” of all time. Getz?

    And Lord, Celine is in serious competition with Mariah in terms of having some of the MOST INSIPID AND BANAL SONGS EVER. Celine’s music is the VERY EXAMPLE of mainstream pap, safe and corn-fed commercial, and totally LACKING in adventurism, significance, artistry, or depth. She makes music for the sappy sentimental people of the AC market whose taste in music goes just *here*..

    So.. NO. Celine doesn’t cut it.

    CELINE IS THE QUEEN OF THE CHEESY, SAPPY, INSIPID, BLAND SONGS FULL OF CHEAP, SYRUPY GOO LADEN SENTIMENTS.

    But if you like her.. then..

    hahahahahahah!

  240. samanticx says:

    FLASH!

    TIME MAGAZINE just named Madonna as one of the 25 MOST POWERFUL WOMEN OF THE PAST CENTURY.

    Here’s what it says about her:

    “Every pop star of the last two to three decades has Madonna to thank in some part for his or her success. The triple threat who does it all — chart-topping singer, energetic dancer and all-around provocateur — left her home state of Michigan with $35 in her pocket and a dream to make it in New York City, and far exceeded that goal with hit singles like “Vogue,” “Like a Virgin” and “Ray of Light.” The one-named wonder’s memorable music videos and live performances, which almost always include extravagant dance numbers, over-the-top outfits and eyebrow-raising concepts, made her one of MTV’s most popular artists. After causing no shortage of controversy with her unabashed sexuality and outspokenness, Madonna has since turned some of her efforts toward being a mother and humanitarian — but not before cementing her place in pop culture as the best-selling female rock artist of the 20th century.”

    time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2029774,00.html

    So.. dears, Madonna is OF the league of REAL HISTORICALLY IMPORTANT WOMEN.

    I mean, WHO are these other poseurs compared to HER??

    I’ll be kind and leave it at that..

    ;)

  241. Celine ! Celine ! Celine ! says:

    You suck Samanticx.Celine is the real Diva ! Even if Celine doesn’t write and produce songs,she ‘s the best.Only Celine can sing a good rendition of traditional songs like O Holy Night, The Star Spangled banner or God Bless America ! Madonna can’t,neither Mariah.

  242. Victoria says:

    Madonna doesn’t have a beautiful voice,neither can sing as well as Celine or Mariah.She can’t be the female artist of all times.This title goes to a great,skillful singer/performer.So,it’s Celine Dion.Celine is the female artist of all times.

  243. Momo says:

    Celine can’t sing as good as Mariah.So,Mariah is the real holder of this title.

  244. BrtineyLover says:

    sorry but you are wrong Madonna has sold more than Mariah Carey and neither of them are making music anymore. And for those delusional Mariah Carey fans Madonna has sold 250-300 million albums while Mariah Carey sold 175-200 albums.I personally perfer Britney Spers though…..

  245. Tabitha says:

    Personally I prefer Mariah.Even if she look half naked like Madonna and Britney.At least she can sing and can give a very good rendition of traditional songs,unlike others.Besides,she’s able to create her own songs.Have you already hear Oh Santa ? that’s really amazing.About Celine,she just make albums with recycled songs…LoL! And she depend only on songwriters and producers.She’s not a real artist…Lol! and her voice sound so nasal…LMAO! Honestly,I think Mariah is really the greatest female artist of all times.

  246. Marcus says:

    WELL MOST OF THE POSTINGS HERE ARE WRONG. ACCORDING TO THE UNITED WORLD CHART, WHICH COMPILES MUSIC SALES FIGURES FROM SOUNDSCAN, RIIA, IFPI THE ONLY FEMALE SINGER LISTED ON THEIR TOP 10 SALES ARTIST OF ALL TIME IS MADONNA. ACCORDING TO THE GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS SHE HAS SOLD 280MIL ALBUMS AND 145MIL SINGLES. MADONNA HOLDS EVERY SALES RECORD IN THE WORLD, INCLUDING THE UNITED STATES. IF ANY OF YOU DOUBT IT, LOOK AT THE BILLBOARD MAGAZINE 50 YEAR ISSUE. THEY LIST MADONNA AT #2 BEHIND THE BEATLES IN THE LIST OF MOST SUCCESSFUL SINGLES ARTIST. NOT MARIAH OR CELINE. THE IFPI AND GUINNESS HAVE LISTED MADONNA AS THE BEST SELLING FEMALE SINGER IN THE WORLD FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS. AROUND THE WORLD, SHE HOLDS EVERY SALES RECORD, INCLUDING HAVING THE RECORD OF HAVING HER LAST 4 ALBUMS OPEN AT #1 IN 45 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. MARIAH HAS 3 #1 IN EUROPE, NONE IN SOUTH AMERICA OR CANADA, AND 2 IN ASIA. MADONNA HAS LANDED OVER 40 SINGLES IN THE TOP TEN WORLD WIDE, 23 OF THEM AT #1. SHE OUTSELLS CELINE IN EUROPE BY ALMOST 10MIL UNITS. AND SHE’S THE ONLY ARTIST IN THE WORLD TO SELL OUT STADIUMS IN EVERY MAJOR MARKET, FROM LOS ANGELES TO ST. PETERSBURG. SO IF YOU ADD EVERY TICKET, RECORD, SINGLE, DVD, CASSETTE, VHS, DOWNLOAD AND MOVIE TICKET, THE PROOF IS IN THE FIGURES, MARIAH DOESN’T EVEN COME CLOSE. MADONNA THIS YEAR DIDN’T HAVE AN ALBUM OUT AND MADE 45MIL FROM CATALOG SALES.

  247. Mandy says:

    Maybe Madonna is the best selling female artist ,but she doesn’t sold 280 million albums nor 145 million singles !Madonna sold 80-100 million singles and even Guinness claim she sold 200 million albums. Madonna’s best selling album sold 26-28 million copies,she have 8 albums selling over 10 million copies( Mariah’s best selling album sold 32 million copies,and Mariah have 10 albums selling over 10 million,nevertheless,people say that her sales doesn’t reach 200 million marks ).Madonna can’t sell over 200 million albums worldwide,even though she’s the best selling female artist.

  248. TRISH says:

    You’re crazy marcus.Madonna doesn’t sold 280 million albums and 145 million singles.It’s so funny and STUPID !Mariah sold more records than Madonna,everyone knows that.Mariah is the indeniable queen of singles worldwide!Mariah blow away all that Madonna could ever do in music.This is Mariah who is in the same league with Elvis presley and beatles,not Madonna.Mariah rules in Billboard Hot 100 with those legends as Mariah in a legend too.Europe is not impressive besides USA alone.All sales proves it many times.Mariah is light years ahead Madonna in everything: Sales,talent,voice,achievements,musical skills,influence,contribution in music,etc…Mariah is the real master of the game.END OF STORY !

  249. MOFF says:

    TRISH
    YOU ARE THE LAST PERSON I WOULD BELIEVE!!
    I thought you learned something (the truth) after the big discussions about “who is really the best selling female artist”, and now I know that your brain is not able to get more information in your head, just untrue opinions and untrue sales about Mariah Carey!
    Trish, as a part of this debate, you should recognize the statement about Madonna, that Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time, it’s not Mariah!
    You can say, like you already said of your opinion, that Mariah is the talented, most beautiful, and so on, you you can not dare to say Mariah has sold more records than Madonna!
    I have nothing against Mariah, I have nothing against Madnna.
    BUT I NOW I WILL HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST YOU IF YOU DON’T STOP SAYING THESE STUPIDITIES!!!

    Madonna HAS SOLD MORE RECORDS THAN MARIAH, you must understand it, everything has its proves!
    Madonna has sold MORE SINGLES (over 100m) AND MORE ALBUMS (200m)

    TRISH : You make me go crazy!

    STOP SAYING LIES; STOP POSTING UNCORRECT SALES; and never say : “Mariah is light years ahead of Madonna”

    Trish, I respect you, because your last post doesn’t include bad insultings like you did before.
    But now you’ve got to recognize that Madonna has sold more records than Mariah -> FACT

    I hope anybody here in the world understands me …

  250. SH**donnaSucks says:

    @ Moff

    Mariah Carey is the best selling female act of all time. BITHCdonna got owned. COWdonna has to die. I can’t stand that FLOPPED old cow.

  251. SH**donnaSucks says:

    samanticx = delusional TRAMPdonna’s fan

    TRAMPdonna is a worthelss flopped cow. It’s a waste of time to talk about that flopped animal.

    To WHOREdonna’s fans (LOL):
    youtube.com/user/MANdonnaTransvestite

  252. MOFF says:

    SH**donnaSucks :

    You are the most stupid person I’ve ever known.
    We’ll ignore you then.
    End of story.

  253. To Moff says:

    You’re not better than him Moff.At least,SH**donnaSucks doesn’t try to hide his hatred towards Madonna.He shows clearly that he hate Madonna.You hate Mariah,but you never admit him.However,all that you do prove it obviously.So,you’re most stupid than him Moff.You’re the worse
    Mariah hater that I’ve ever known.

  254. MOFF says:

    Dear, “to MOFF”…

    Shouldn’t there be a world without insultings?
    Without violence? Without Hating?

    I think you didn’t realize how to complain, how to say words, how to give an opinion to others!
    Sh** Donna sucks is a person who doesn’t know how to discuss. She (he) insults others, and Stars, without knowing how much they’re worth!

    I’m not a liar, if I were one, I would insult, I would give untrue facts to this debate!
    But I didn’t and I will never do it!
    I dont’t insult others if I want to show my mind.

    Think about that!

  255. To Moff and other Mariah's haters says:

    Moff :
    You insult lambs when you said that Mariah’s records sales are 150 million albums and 50- 60 million singles .I am not a liar like you said ,and neither you don’t know the real facts about Mariah’s sales .You pretend that you’re objective,but you just support everyone/everything who favor Madonna,whereas you refute every facts who favor Mariah Carey. No ,the post before meant 150 million albums worldwide when Mariah won the Millennium Award by 2000 year,while Madonna’s total albums sales was about 120- 130 million at these times.Mariah’s total albums sales reached 170 million by 2003 when Mariah won the Chopard Diamond Award.That’s why the year after (2004),Celine’s albums sales surpassed Mariah’s with 175 million sales worldwide.Then Celine pick up the Chopard Diamond Award from Mariah.But the sales of TEOM ( from 2005 ) has added to Mariah’s total album sales ,so that her new total album sold stand at 182 million. Moreover ,when the worldwide sales of Mariah’s 2008,2009 and 2010 releases are added to this amount,Mariah’s current total albums sold stand at 185-190 million . No matter if Mariah was never declared the best selling female artist of all times by Guinness World Records, as every major and specialized musical medias and sales-devoted channels/organizations worldwide always did .In the other hand , only Guinness claimed Madonna the best selling female ,no other institution did .Guiness isn’t a specialized organization in these questions ,that’s why it make that huge mistake ( more than 100 million too much ) about it initial claim of Madonna’s total album sales.Besides,Mariah had feature the 1996- 1997 Guinness Book Of Record for being the best selling female artist of the 1990’s .

  256. Susan Ruuuuuuuuules ! says:

    Susan Boyles kills all of them…Lol! Mariah,Whitney,Aretha,Barbra and Celine on singing ability ! Susan Boyle also kills Madonna on success…LMAO !! Unlike these women Susan got a true talent although she’s a little bit less beautiful than them( It’s because she’s too fat).Susan is the real winner ! Long life to Susan Boyle,the best diva ever the new best seling female artist of all times !

  257. MOFF says:

    MMh will she last long like others did ?

  258. Susan ruuuuuules !! says:

    Moff,Susan is better than all of them in everything.You must recognize it !

  259. Mariah is the Female artist of all times ! says:

    Susan Boyle ??? You dreamed a dream my dear ! She’s too far to be as good as singer compare with Mariah,just compare their respective Christmas album.You forget that no one can’t compete with Mariah on voice and sing ability…lol! Maybe just Whitney Houston,nobody else ! hahaha !
    About sales you must know that Susan is just a new worldwide sensation.Hey everyone,you always confound best selling artist with greatest artist.There is not only sales,but also LEGACY, TALENT,NOTABLE SONGS,VOICE,INFLUENCE, etc…,etc…Mariah Carey is the female artist of all times,everything show it.She combined everything,we must recognize that !

  260. MOFF says:

    no ?
    We can talk about that after 20 years! !

  261. MJNI.COM ! says:

    MJNI.com has posted a list of the top 100 best selling albums of all times. Michael Jackson tops the list with his 1983 album, ‘Thriller,’ with over 54 million copies sold. The Beatles have the most albums on the list with six, followed by Michael Jackson and Mariah Carey with five each. Read on for a list of positions filled by pop artists.
    Michael Jackson – Thriller (1983)
    13. Backstreet Boys – Millennium (1999)
    14. Celine Dion – Let’s Talk About Love (1997)
    16. Celine Dion – Falling Into You (1996)
    19. Mariah Carey – Music Box (1993)
    21. Michael Jackson – Bad (1987)
    23. Michael Jackson – Dangerous (1991)
    27. Backstreet Boys – Backstreet Boys (1998)
    31. Britney Spears – …Baby One More Time (1999)
    33. Whitney Houston – Whitney Houston (1985)
    34. Madonna – The Immaculate Collection (1990)
    39. Mariah Carey – Daydream (1995)
    41. Madonna – True Blue (1986)
    47. Madonna – Like a Virgin (1984)
    49. Ricky Martin – Ricky Martin (1999)
    52. Britney Spears – Oops! I Did It Again (2000)
    53. Whitney Houston – Whitney (1987)
    60. Celine Dion – A Decade of Song (1999)
    66. Mariah Carey – Mariah Carey (1990)
    70. Michael Jackson – History (1995)
    73. NSYNC – No Strings Attached (2000)
    77. Michael Jackson – Off The Wall (1979)
    78. Janet Jackson – Janet (1993)
    79. Mariah Carey – Butterfly (1997)
    81. Mariah Carey – Merry Christmas (1994)
    98. Celine Dion – The Colour of My Love (1993)
    100. Madonna – Ray of Light (1998)

    So,we see clearly that Mariah Carey surpass other female artists in everything ,including sales,and that she sold more albums than Madonna and Celine Dion.

  262. MOFF says:

    The list doesn’t show how many albums an artist has sold!
    You lie!
    e.g.
    Barbra Streisand has sold more records than ..Ricky Martin, but although – she has NO album in that list!
    You can’t just say that Mariah has sold more albums than Madonna. We need a complete list!

  263. MOFF says:

    haha!
    And if I see that:

    Merry CHristmas and Butterfly have sold both more than Ray Of Light!
    Haha!
    Thats funny, it’s not correct, they have sold LESS than Ray of Light

  264. Malcolm says:

    She didn’t even beat Michael Jackson!!!!!!!!!! MJ Has Thriller so he sold more than every artist

  265. Malcolm says:

    Ok? Put Susan Boyle up against Michael Jackson. Susan can’t outsing Michael Or Aretha.

  266. Mariah4 ever ! says:

    Moff,of course Merry Christmas and Butterfly sold both more than Ray of Light.So What?

  267. MOFF says:

    Prove it.
    Merry Christmas: 12-14 million
    Butterfly: 14 million

    Ray of Light: AT LEAST 15 million. Estimation: 17 million, Wikipedia with “over 20m” is too high. lol.

  268. Both are legends says:

    To the live performances:
    Madonna surely has not got the best live-voice, but to become a world star in the music business, voice is perhaps only 10% worth!
    Think about it: how many girls / women have you ever heard singing and you thought: ‘The one can compete with a great world star? Many, of course …
    E.g. in my class there are 2 – 3 girls. I always think that they have a brilliant voice, so let’s say … at least every 15 has a voice like Madonna, but there a greater vocalists than her!
    BUT:
    Why Madonna has done it so far?
    Because voice is just a small fraction of a music career

    1. Madonna belongs in almost every of her songs to major producers, which proves her great talent for songwriting, and talent to produce what is sold in millions!
    2. Market Talent: A Scandal is the best advertisement for a star, because many who do not even know where they get attention! (eg through media)
    3. Performance: In my opinion (although her live voice isn’t good), Madonna concerts are by far the best ones! That’s because she dances great choreographys, with many dancers on a brilliant stage (No other star has). People are not interested in the voice of a star, that’s proved by this argument:
    Her concerts are the most successful and highest grossing!
    And if you are not satisfied with her live voice, why don’t people just listen to their MP3 Players to enjoy Madonna music?

    I hope that now those who do not understand why Madonna is the No.1, now finally understand why she is the entertainer of music of the world!

  269. Mariah4 ever ! says:

    Wikipedia ? Let me laugh ! Hahaha! Since when Wikipedia was a reliable source ??? This site is the worse Mariah hater,Moff exactly like you ! Merry Christmas and Butter fly are sold each more than 17 million worldwide since 2006.Ray of Light is about 10-11 million sales worldwide ,not more !

  270. MOFF says:

    MAriah 4 Ever:
    Did I say Wikipedia was a reliable source ?????
    Did I say it???
    Did I say that I trust in the information Wikipedia releases?????

    Mariah4 ever, if you can’t read, learn it!
    I said: “Wikipedia with over 20m is too high, lol”
    What does that mean ?

    IT MEANS THAT WIKIPEDIAS IMAGINATION OF THE SALES FIGURE OF RAY OF LIGHT IS MUCH TOO HIGH!!!
    UNDERSTAND? – TOO HIGH!!!
    REAL estimations are from 14 million to 18 million!
    And your estimation from 10-11 is MUCH DECREASED _ YOU LIE!!!!!!!!
    And when I hear Merry Christmas and butterfly sold more than 17 million units worldwide – hahaha
    Mariah4ever: HAHAHA

    Madonna sold 200m albums
    Mariah 170

    is that enough?
    “Mariah4ever”, check out REAL FACTS

  271. Mariah4ever ! says:

    Moff,why did you laught at my post ? Do you want to play with me ? Do you want to provoke me ? I wanna know what game you play ! There is so many sources which according to what I said .

  272. MOFF says:

    @Mariah4ever:

    I wanna remind you, that you laughed about my post!
    “Let me laugh, hahaha!” … …

    So?
    You want to you which game I play?
    I DON’T play a game. I want you to get the correct information about Ray of Light sales.
    Butterfly and Merry Christmas NEVER sold MORE than Ray of Light.
    give me a source, is it Billboard? Media Traffic?
    Alone in Europe, Ray of Light has sold more than 7 million copies. Its proved by IFPI because it has got a IFPI Platinum Award.
    RIAA Certification for Ray of Light:4 times Platinum.
    We have, because they are the most important certifications, 10 million AT LEAST for Ray of light.

    So do you think it has sold (in the other countries like Germany, France, Japan, especially UK, Brazil and so on) just 1 million more, because like you said, it has sold just 10-11 million ???
    Do YOU want to play a game with me ???

    Butterfly get 1 IFPI Award for 1 million shipments in Europe and was certified 5 times Platinum by RIAA. She has also got a Million Award from Japan.
    So Butterfly (IFPI+RIAA) = 6 million.
    ???
    Butterfly has sold more than Ray of Light. AHA !

    To Merry Christmas:
    IFPI: 1 (!) time Platinum
    RIAA: 5x platinum for over 5 million sales.
    TOTAL: 6 million.

    Let us don’t forget that these figures are ONLY EUROPE + USA.

    Worldwide, Ray of Light has sold surely more than these albums, like I said roughly 14-18 million.

  273. Mariah 4 ever says:

    @Moff : My proofs for Merry Christmas and Butterfly
    Mariah Carey has said herself that Butterfly sold over 17 million marks worlswide back to 2007,in the popular French TV show “ Tout Le Monde En Parle “.Besides,it was certified 5 times platinum in USA,2 times platinum in Europe,sells more than million in Japan alone,sells over 500 000 in China,and millions more in all the rest of Asia.So it really sold more than Ray of Light. About Merry Christmas,The source one poster showed you in the Blog “ Continuing Top Selling Artist Madonna vs Mariah Carey “ ,calling ” reference for sales and chart achievements for Mariah carey ” said clearly that Mariah’s Merry Christmas sold over 16 million worldwide back to 2006 ( Reference for sales and chart achievements of Mariah Carey ).Now,Merry Christmas sold over 17 million worldwide as it charted especially each years.

  274. MOFF says:

    Usually when artists talk about “records” they mean albums+singles.

    –>1998: Mariah said herself in an interview with Vibe Magazine that Emotions sold about 10 million records worldwide (when artists say ‘records’ they usually mean albums and singles, Mariah said she sold 150+ million albums and singles in 2001, which we know were albums and singles). Emotions officially sold 8 million albums, so she sold 2 million singles from the Emotions album.

    –> So if Mariah said that Butterfly sold 17 million “marks” worldide, she surely didn’t mean 17 million albums sales only -> single+album sales combined, so we can come my number of about 14 million!

    –> US: 5xP , Europe 1xP , Japan 1M

    Merry Christmas has sold 14million worldwide because:
    USA: 5x Platinum
    Europe 1x Platinum
    Japan 2.5x Platinum

    8.5!

    Ray Of Light:
    Europe: 7x Platinum
    USA: 4x Platinum
    11!
    Alone these 2 certifications of Eur+US are enough to outsold Merry Christmas. See ?

  275. Mariah4ever says:

    No,no .Mariah is not stupid.she meant albums only,not records ! Don’t say that Moff.You said that because this album got the same name than the Single.Butterffly is sold 17 million worldwide,that’s why MJNI.com listed it in tis list of 100 best selling female albums of all times.

  276. MOFF says:

    Mariah4ever:

    Do you now understand that my certifications of Ray of Light outsell “Merry christmas” and Butterfly” ?
    Ray of Light is even mentioned in the Top 120 best selling albums of all times by the source worldwidealbums, mediatraffic (it was in the list, so it’s about on place 110-101)

    Butterfly and Merry Christmas NOT!
    See ?

    And actually, Ray of light was a much more popular album in charts than B+MC …
    In every country at No. 2 because of Celine Dion’ Let’s talk about Love and Titanic OST!

  277. Mariah4ever ! says:

    mediatrafic and,blablabla…What can you find else for put Mariah sales down ? I repeat you accordig to sources that I already gave here that Butterfly and Marry Christmas are sold each over 17 million worldwide !

  278. MOFF says:

    Didn’t you find any more arguments, Mariah4ever ?
    Or do I have to call you “Broken T” or “Jefrie” .. ?

    Do you think that mediatraffic, and like you said “blablabla” are unreliable sources?
    Do you think mediatraffic etc. wants to put Mariah Carey sales down ?
    NO – they show the real truth!

    Where is your prove for Butterfly and MC which have both sold over 17 million in your opinion .. ?
    There’s no prove.

  279. Vince says:

    Well, Celine Dion (according to Sony BMG in 2007) has sold over 200 million records.

  280. Mariah4ever says:

    Moff,do I have to call you Shutup or Lucky Luke or “ Right “ ? Well,Butterfly and Merry Christmas have both sold over 17 million worldwide not just in my opinion ,but in true facts.Live with it hater !

  281. MOFF says:

    ohhh … as a little sister of Trish .. may I call you “child” ?
    Can I name you this way ? Would you mind ?

    You are so crazy! They have sold LESS than Ray of Light.
    Source, please. And then write back, not before you posted your link of a real prove.
    Mariah4 ever: give us your reason.

    Or …
    oh yes! I try to believe Mariah4 ever!
    Oh Yes ! Butterfly and Merry Christmas have both sold over 17 million copies..
    they were so more successful than Ray of light !
    Oh yes! You are so right !!!
    SOOOO RIGHT !!
    SOO RIGHT !!

    Oh yeahh !! They were more successful in sales !
    Oh yeah ! 17 million for both ..
    mmhh yes ! They have sold more than Ray of light ! YOU ARE SO RIGHT “Mariah4ever” !!

    HAHAHAHA …
    Where is your home located ? Mars ?

  282. Mariah4ever ! says:

    I’am not “Right” Moff,only Lucky Luke is ! You love him so muuuch ! Where is your home located? Lucky Luke’s bathroom ? I repeat Butterfly and Merry Christmas sold more than Ray Of Light with sales of 17 million worldwide ! END OF STORY !!!!

  283. MOFF says:

    Proves ?

    Sorry If I didn’t mention it: I am the Pope !!
    Dont believe me ? ok .. then ..

    Mariah4ever: WE NEED PROVES ! you don’t have to repeat it, we know that your opinion is wrong!

    Child ..

  284. Mariah the diva ! says:

    Mariah Carey is the greatest female artist of all times.END OF STORY !

  285. MOFF says:

    Either you are Trish or Mariah4ever (maybe even the same).
    greatest – your opinion
    best selling: facts.
    Madonna is the best selling female artist and you couldn’t answer to my post before. So now you hopefully recognized that Madonna has sold more records than Mariah Carey

  286. Mariah4ever ! says:

    Madonna best selling artist is your opinion Moff.Mariah Carey is the greatest female artist of all times and the best selling female artist of all times !

  287. tane says:

    mariah has sold more than 2oo million albums worldwide
    her net is worth 500 million
    she brought a 125 million home
    all this as of 2010

    she is a diva she is the best…the biggest selling female artists of all time…madonna came out 10 years before MC so that makes Mariah a bigger seller!…..

  288. tane says:

    merry Christmas and butterfly have sold 17 million as of 2010…you know moff! things don’t stay the same forever meaning Mariahs albums will never stop being brought by er devoted fans that’s why her album sales have increased somuch, people don’t stop buying them even her old ones!

    so enough about the Madonna crap!

  289. MOFF says:

    Mariah4ever:

    Madonna is not only the best selling female artist of all times in my opinion, she is also claimed as the best selling female artist by IFPI, RIAA, Guinness, Mediatraffic, Worldwidealbums etc etc.

    You know NOTHING

  290. MOFF says:

    1. Tane, you are Trish (Mariah4ever)
    You are the first person claiming 17 million for Butterfly and 200 million albums sold for Mariah Carey.
    You are wrong cause you have no proves. Give me proves and I’ll believe you. ok ?
    ok ?

    2. Its doesn’t matter that Madonna was 7 years before MC, cause she is still a better seller than Mariah.
    All her albums in 2000s outsold Mariah, except TEOM which was a great success for Mariah.
    But .. all others were flops.
    Stop posting lies, TANE

  291. tane says:

    im not posting lies if youd just take the time to search Mariahs album sales you’ll see I’m not lying, you’ll see I’m telling the truth but no you just can’t do so

  292. MOFF says:

    Research Mariah sales and give me links ..
    album sales Mariah: 170m
    Madonna: 200m

    Guinness announced Madonna as the worlds top selling female artist!
    Dej Jam 200 million records sold for Mariah Carey. Dont turn it around

  293. TRISH says:

    Tane ,we are right.This hater don’t stopping to say every lamb take part in debates are me.Butterfly and Merry Christmas sold 17 million each. Ray of Light doesn’t surpass 13 million !

  294. MOFF says:

    Then prove it.

  295. TRISH says:

    Moff,this debate is not about sales.Let’s respect the title of debates.We talk about sales in the Madonna Vs Mariah entry.Don’t try to reduce every debates on sales questions. Mariah Carey is the greatest female artist of all times !

  296. MOFF says:

    Why didn’t you mention it before you posted 17 million for Butterfly ?
    I don’t mind. If you want to go on with sales, then please post true sales, which you are able to PROVE.

  297. TRISH says:

    Moff,I act like I feel it,OK ? I decide to talk about sales in Madonna or Mariah debate cause it’s the title.Every debates are not borders in sales questions.The title of this entry is Mariah Carey the female artist of all times.Yes she is !

  298. MOFF says:

    OK. So let’s talk about sales in the other topic. And do not claim “17 million for Butterfly” or “Mariah as the BEST SELLING female singer” again.

  299. TRISH says:

    Mariah Carey is the female artist of all times !

  300. MOFF says:

    Trish is a big liar.

    Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time!

  301. TRISH says:

    Moff is a bigger liar than me. Mariah Carey is the greatest female artist of all times !

  302. MOFF says:

    And Madonna has sold more records.
    Trish is lying.

  303. MOFF says:

    HAHA Trish:
    You said: MOFF is a bigger liar than me.
    So: that means YOU LIE ?

  304. TRISH says:

    Moff,you are the worse debater I never met.You don’t know argue cause your arguments are so childish ! That’s why you refer your opponents to Shut Up and Lucky Luke’s lies ! You can’t even bring something by your own ! What a shame ! Here,is not a blog talking about your slut idol. GET OUT OF HERE MOFF !!!

  305. TRISH says:

    Hello I’m Trish-.
    I am a very bad debater and I don’t have any proofs for Mariah Carey record sales.

    MOFF is right and SHutup and Luky Luke are also right.
    I am a big liar.

  306. nicko says:

    i don’t give a damn to all ye’ people but all I can say is that the whole united fu**ing states is crazy over Mariah Carey, everywhere in the world Mariah’s well known even in asia korea,philippines, japan, in Europe in spain, in africa, in Australia damn! Mariah so hot and the voice, man! Incredibly good and I cannot say anything other than MARIAH CAREY’s really the best whether you like it or fu**ing not! GO Mariah! The whole world loves you so so so much!!! how I wish all singers are like you!

  307. MOFF says:

    Of course “niko” you love Mariah Carey, as others love Madonna or Celine or Tina. But you also have to face that there are other artists in the world who have been more successful than Carey in their career. There is 1. Madonna and 2. Celine Dion.
    I tried to understand people saying “Mariah is the best selling etc” and now I hope we all know that this is not true.
    Calling Mariah “the greatest female artist” is just a matter of opinion.
    There are other aspects, apart from singing, that belong to naming somebody a real “artist”.
    According to my opinion, Mariah has a much more powerful, beautiful and skilful voice than Madonna, she is ca. equal to Celine.
    But in case of record sales, the point goes to Madonna.

    Lambs are crazy for Mariah, like other fans are crazy for Madonna. But what really matters is that there are institution out there in the world and many different sources which show us, that Mariah is not the best selling female artist, the title which she probably deserves for many millions of people.
    IFPI claimed Madonna as the top selling female artist in the world, Guinness as well in 2011 and 2007.

    There is no link or proof that shows me that Guinness stated: 380 million albums sold by Madonna. None. If you see one, then tell me it, please.

    I have nothing against Mariah but she is definitely not the best selling female artist.

    Her album sales stand are standing at around 165 million. That’s clear. Madonna’s at 200 million.

    Def Jam reported “200 million albums, singles and videos worldwide”, which proves my statement.

    In 2003, Mariah got her Diamond Award for 150 million albums sales.
    That means: From 1990 to 2003 Mariah has sold an amount of 150 million albums. To date, she has sold further 15 million albums; including “The Emancipation of Mimi”, “E=MC2”, “Memoirs ..” “the ballads” and “Merry Christmas 2u”.

    In the 90s Mariah was obviously the biggest seller, male or female.
    She sold more then Celine Dion, her biggest rival in terms of album sales at that time – but by now, Dion has sold a bigger amount of albums sold: 185 million.

    The way to check correct album sales can be difficult, you can just believe what institutions like RIAA, IFPI, WMA, mediatraffic, worldwide albums say or you can look after their particular number of an album has sold.

    We can check it: We both know that The Immaculate Collection and Music Box have sold around 30 million of copies.
    We can see it at mediatraffic’s list.
    TIC is ahead but that it is just an estimation.

    But we see that both albums have sold an equal number of copies sold.

    Surely lambs can increase or decrease album sales like many of here did in that debate but that doesn’t really change the actual situation.

    Maybe doing some research in the Internet will show you the truth:

    Facts are facts:

    “Like A Virgin” has sold more than “1#s”.
    “Daydream” has sold more than “Ray of Light”.
    “like a Prayer” has sold more than “butterfly”
    like “Something to remember” has sold more than E=MC2.

    Some people say this, some say that. We can fight about Music vs TEC or True Blue vs Daydream. But even if we do that, nothing will change the total record sales of Madonna or Mariah Carey.

    Unless .. you .. DID NOT INCREASE ALL ALBUM SALES !

    Lambs claiming 17 million for Butterfly or 14 million for The Emancipation of Mimi is just a way to provoke.

    I couldn’t see any proofs for these incredible sales.
    But .. if they think that .. let them.

    These are sources in the internet which are pretty accurate and interesting:

    mediatraffic.de/

    worldwidealbums.net/

    ifpi.org/

    The 200 million albums sold by Madonna is proved by this:

    ifpi.org/content/section_news/plat_month_20060913.html

    Its obvious that Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time!

    Sorry when I posted that here, but its just bullsh** saying 17 million for Butterfly or Mariah or Celine have sold more records than Madonna.

    Quote of Trish: “End of story”.

  308. MOFF says:

    Everyone, I hate Mariah and her lambs.I idolize Madonna my favorite bitch and Celine my best clown that can make me laugh! To be honest,I admit that I can’t find nothing to demand for Madonna and Celine next to Mariah except for concerts…They are so far to be as talentuous as Mariah musically and artistrically. but I’ll always defend them although I know that Mariah sold much more records than both combined.Me ,Lucky Luke and Shut Up combined our lies against Trish cause we all hate Mariah so much. I’ll always deny every assets she got in facts over Madonna and Celine.I know that Celine’s true albums sales worldwide are around 160-165 million but I rather claim this number for Mariah since I hate her.About Madonna,she sold barely 170 million albums worldwide but I always say 200 million.In facts,this is Mariah Carey who sold 200 million albums worldwide,Hehehe ! Fortunately, there is so much fake sources and links by biased institutions that lie for Celine and Madge .They create several partial links in favor of Celine and Madonna.Trish is 100 % right in everything she said,but I could never admit it ! I’ll continue to base my incoherent arguments on biased links and sources for putting Trish’s solid arguments and facts down ! I hate Trish cause she’s too much advised,smart and intelligent by discovering all our lies and the partialities of our sources.This girl makes me sick ! I can’t debate like her cause I have any coherent fact, just the biased links and sources as weapons,I must accuse her to be a liar for tryng to destroy her credibility in these blogs,hehehe !

  309. TRISH says:

    Moff try desperately to impose his delusional lies here after that everyone discover Mimi is the best selling female artist of all times ! He’s so pathetic.He continue to base he’s pitiful lies on Lucky Luke’s and Shut Up’s.No one worldwide has reach Mariah’s level of success in Music ! Mariah is the undeniable number 1 followed with a respectable difference by Madonna.Celine is far behind them.It’s true,Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of all times ! She’s also the Greatest Female Artist Of All Times ! Apart singing,Mariah also beat Madonna,Whitney,Aretha,Barbra,etc… ( Celine doesn’t deserve at all to candidate for the title of Greatest Female Artist Of All Times,cause she’s too much limited as artist )in every “other aspects,that belong to naming somebody a real artist”.Mariah has a much powerful,beautiful and skillful voice than not only Madonna,but than any female artist.She surpass Celine by far,you know it damn well !
    Mariah beat every female artists on these aspects:

    – Popularity ( The Winner of FUSE Poll about which female artists that have the most fans.Mariah wins with 12,4 million votes ). Moreover,Mimi is the most popular artist in US, Latin America,West Indies, Asia, Oceania.She’s also get a great popularity in Africa and Europe !

    – Voice ( Best Voice Ever ! MTV Countdown,Blender Magazine,Cove Magazine,Rolling Stones, …)
    – Legacy ( she’s the female artist that left the most considerable legacy in Music )
    – Influence (Most Influential artist worldwide )
    – Singing Skills and interpreter abilities( Mariah )

    – Vocal Range: Largest Vocal Range Ever (5,2 Octaves.She already outsang the piano by her performance of Emotions at the MTV Awards of 1991,when she had hit a G#8 note. Guinness World Records credit her the largest vocal range ever for the only living human that can hit the higher note and also the lower note )

    – Musical Skills (Writing , Composing,Producing,Arranging)
    – Huge Contribution in Pop Music and in R&B music.
    – Diversity Of Musical Genres mastered
    First: Moff lie cause IFPI never said Madonna the top selling female artist in the world
    Second: Even if IFPI did,it would lie cause it claimed Nana Mouskouri sold 200 million albums but still never able to prove it by any means.I showed Nana true total sales many times,that reach barely 50 million.I even explained her sales per countries/continents !I also cited her greatest market ! Who among you knew that before ? Every debaters just repeated Nana’s fake 200-300 million albums sold in accordance with IFPI ! Even Lucky Luke did ( I don’t know if it was by ignorance or simply because he wanted to lie ! Even Lucky Luke who is a Greek wasn’t able to refute these explanations,specially when I show Nana’s sales in Greece,his own country ! And when I claimed Nana is the best selling artist of Greece ( instead of Madonna or Celine,like many debaters always believed as they knew Madonna and Celine are the best selling female artists everywhere in Europe ! )and that I give her number sales there ! As such a Greek debater,Lucky Luke was in the best position to refute my claims about Nana Mouskouri and to prove I am wrong ! But no.He couldn’t Because I’m right !
    Third: IFPI is not to be trusted,cause it base all its certifications data on estimations,not on real counts.That’s why this institution usually make huge mistake and partiality in its statements.
    Fourth: Guinness already said Madonna sold 280 -300 million albums in the past,in accordance with Madonna stans .Then it rectify this number by 200 million albums for 2011.So,this institution can’t be trusted .
    Fifth: Guinness isn’t allowed to state who is the best selling artist since this institution is not specialized in musical sales nor an official organization that count sales in every countries.its claims are based just on estimations.
    Sorry,but Mariah Carey is the top female seller ,not Madonna.
    @ Moff : You said Mariah sold 150 million albums since 2003 without any 2004-2011 album sales and 55 million singles by now.Then you say 200 million albums + Singles+ Videos by 2011 according to Def Jam.Do you see how your silly argument failed ?
    Your pathetic arguments just fail. The Voice sold 200 million albums and 100 million singles worldwide since 1990 to 2011 hater,take it.Your wannabe singer sold 170 million albums and 65 million singles worldwide.You cite RIAA and WMA among your partial sources (IFPI, Mediatrafic),can you tell us how many World Music Awards ( that count every impressive sales per years) Madonna has for her entire career?

    We all know that The Immaculate Collection sold 26 million copies worldwide and Music Box have sold over 32 million of copies.
    We can see it at its detailed list by each country as we know that Mediatrafic’s ( Mediatraffic is a Madonna supporter,like many others biased sources,like IFPI,Guinness,etc…like everybody know ) lists are biased and can’t be trusted..

    Madonna’s and Celine’s fans always increase or decrease album sales ( like Moff,Lucky Luke and Shutup always did ), but that doesn’t really change the actual situation.
    Maybe doing some research in the Internet will trap you most and put you deeper in mistakes cause most of links and sources available on the internet are lying ,cause they are created specially to elude non-advised people .
    Facts are facts: Facts show Mariah sold more than Madonna and Celine !
    “ # 1’s” has sold more than “ True Blue”.
    “The Immaculate Collection” has sold more than “Emotions”.
    “like a Prayer” has sold more than “ MTV Unplugged EP”
    “Music” sold more than “Glitter”
    like “Something to remember” has sold less than “Charmbracelet”
    Some people would love that their opponent just applause to their lies in their increasing of their favorite artists sales.
    If Madonna’s sales were so high,she would receive much more World Music Awards than what she has in fact.Madonna’s album sales were never impressive next to other female artists.In the 1980’s, just the 2 albums released by Whitney Houston and Whitney surpassed all Madonna’s on sales and success ! Whitney Houston two 1980’s albums are both the best selling albums of the 1980 decade,by a female artist ! And her single “ I Wanna Dance With Somebody “ is the best selling single of the 1980 decade by a female artist .Whitney Houston is the first female artist to have 2 diamond certified albums in Us !And Whitney is also the first female artist to have 2 albums selling 20 million or more worldwide.
    Madonna ? Hahaha ! All she had as really impressive were her extravagances and her sexual eccentricities,not her sales !Madonna managed to be the best selling female act of the 1980’s only because she released much more albums than Whitney Houston ! All these explain why Madonna never had World Music Awards for her albums,unlike Mariah !
    In the 1990 decade,Mariah Carey blown away every other artists,male or female.Every Mariah releases in the 1990 decade were all smash hits ,and any of them haven’t sold below 10 million worldwide ! It’s not astonishing that she had World Music Award all along the 1990’s.That’s explain why Mariah is the artist having the most World Music Award( 17 ) ,while Madonna is the artist having the less ( just one ). It’s because all Mariah’s albums in the 1990’s were records on sales,unlike Madonna’s .These are the facts that made Mariah the best selling female artist of all times,not just links and partial sources in the internet .
    This is by late,that biased institutions and sources as Mediatrafic and IFPI increase Madonna sales and give Madonna and Celine fake certified sales that she doesn’t deserve in facts ! Idem for Celine Dion.That’s why,these institutions try to impose these both women suddenly as best selling artists over Mariah.In facts,Madonna and Celine are far to be close to Mariah on sales !
    Madonna’s fans claiming 16-17 million for Ray Of Light or 12 million for Confession On A Dance Floor , 23 million for True Blue,30 million for TIC ,etc….is just a way to provoke. Cause they know that all these albums sold much lower.
    We must regard on past facts to have an right idea about the success and sales of albums cause many today sources lie and make partialities in favor of some artists ( Madonna and Celine ).All sources and links available on internet are partial and biased cause most of them are based on IFPI ,Mediatrafic,Guinness,… biased estimations.We already know IFPI and Mediatrafic’s lies about sales,it’s useless to repeat them in every of your posts.So,it would be too much easy by giving only these fake sources and links to prove that Madonna and Celine sold more than Carey.Sorry,but Mariah sold more than these women.
    By the way, I remind you that this blog is about “The Greatest Female Artist Of All Times” ,not just “ The Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times ‘ .Even though Mariah is also the best selling female artist, we must stay in the theme of the debate and call her THE GREATEST FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES. The obvious answer,Mariah Carey is the greatest female artist of all times ! Your hating can’t change the reality Moff,live with it dear hater !

  310. MOFF says:

    Like I said, you have NO proofs for that Guinness claimes “300 million albums sold”
    Or?

    You have no proof for “200 million albums sold by Carey”

    And No proofs for “100 million singles” by Mariah Carey

    Who believes such a obsessed Mariah Carey fan?

  311. BUTTERFLY says:

    Neither you ,have no proofs about anything you claim here.You just spread some of your thoughts and deliriums,based on IFPI,Guinness and madiatrafic partialities.Who would trust a such sick Madonna fan as you ?
    Mariah Carey is the greatest female artist of all times while Madonna is the greatest bitch of all times !

  312. MOFF says:

    Like I said, you have NO proofs for that Guinness claimes “300 million albums sold”
    Or?

    You have no proof for “200 million albums sold by Carey”

    And no proofs for “100 million singles” by Mariah Carey

    Who believes such an obsessed Mariah Carey fan?

    100 million singles, proof ?
    200 million albums, proof?
    300 million records, proof ?

    Trish, go to hospital.

  313. BUTTERFLY says:

    I already proved everything on Mariah’s 200 million of albums and 100 million singles worldwide. you have no proofs about anything you claim here.You just spread some of your thoughts and deliriums,based on IFPI,Guinness and madiatrafic partialities.Who would trust a such sick Madonna fan as you ? Madonna sold 168 million albums and 68 million singles worldwide,you can’t prove more sales for her.
    Mariah Carey is the greatest female artist of all times while Madonna is the greatest bitch of all times !

  314. MOFF says:

    So prove it.

    Like I said, you have NO proofs for that Guinness claimes “300 million albums sold”
    Or?

    You have no proof for “200 million albums sold by Carey”

    And no proofs for “100 million singles” by Mariah Carey

    Who believes such an obsessed Mariah Carey fan?

    100 million singles, proof ?
    200 million albums, proof?
    300 million records, proof ?

    Trish, go to hospital.

  315. js says:

    latest sales for Mariah Carey album
    as of 2011

    Mariah Carey 15 million worldwide

    emotions 8 million worldwide

    musicbox 32 million worldwide

    merry Christmas 15 million worldwide

    daydream 25 million worldwide

    butterfly 17 million worldwide

    1’s 21 million worldwide

    rainbow 10 million worldwide

    glitter 3 million worldwide

    charmbracelet 5 million worldwide

    greatest hits 4 million worldwide

    remixes 2 million worldwide

    emancipation of mimi 12 million worldwide

    E=MC² 3 million worldwide

    memoir of an imperfect angel 2 million copies worldwide

    merry Christmas II you 1 million worldwide

  316. js says:

    i love Madonna music
    but I’m a big fan of Mariah Carey
    if you compare lyrical content
    madonna theme is about sex or in short explicit.
    Mariah Carey theme is very inpirational about love respect god.
    question is are you going to let your kids, future kid, or other kids out there to listen to those sexual about song?
    no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  317. js says:

    yes Madonna is sucssfully top the charts in europe
    Mariah Carey not

    but she has a lot of number 1 in asia than any other artist

    here in asia if we hear the word Madonna the impression is, old bitch, whore, trying hard to sing while she is old already, sexual explicit,
    whitney houston,Celine Dion and Mariah Carey is respectable diva in the whole asia……….
    madonna is not.

  318. MOFF says:

    but she is .. undeniable .. the most successful female artist of all time.
    She has much more number ones and top tens all over the world if you look at their respectively discographies.

    Of course both are successful, but Madonna is more.

    AND: Number ones (MC) : 21 million ?
    Sorry .. but 21 million is increased. You surely meant 17 million.

    and for Butterfly? 13 million is better.

  319. js says:

    no number 1’s sold 21 million you can watch her interview
    and even read Wikipedia about number 1’s

  320. js says:

    i read also the discography of Madonna Celine and Whitney and all my favorite singers.
    and I can say that Madonna and Mariah is really amazing
    madonna has number 1 in europe.
    mariah has more number 1 in asia and america

  321. js says:

    and Mariah Carey alway introduce as world best selling female artist in special and big events

  322. js says:

    and always remember that Madonna started in 1982
    while Mariah is 1990
    and Madonna is lucky because there is no piracy in her time. that why the music industry is very alive. even low charting album can sold 2 to 5 million.
    just like for example Mariah Carey’s merry Christmas charted at number 3. but manage to sell 5,100,000 copies in the united states,
    while today her memoir of an imperfect angel did at number 3 but manage to sell 500,000
    all music sales today is breaking down
    femme fetale? goodbye lullaby, bionic,and celebration, those album owned by superstars, they manage to sold 500000 or 1000000,

  323. js says:

    mariah is big in asia
    example their sales in japan
    mariah is the best selling inter national artist in japan
    madonna is second for female but with a big diferrences
    Mariah Carey sold
    27million records in japan
    madonna sold
    950,000 records in japan
    wow.

  324. js says:

    mariah voice is incoparable too
    nut Madonna is.
    try to listen to Kylie Minogue.
    hehehe almost same tachnique

    anyway Mariah voice is praised by many singer in the world.
    while Madonna praised her dancing skill.

  325. js says:

    60’s is for Elvis presley
    70’s is for the beatles
    80’s is for Michael Jackson
    90’s is for Mariah Carey
    00’s is for eminem

    where is Madonna?
    whitney?
    celine?

    missing!

  326. MOFF says:

    Madonna has the Guinness Citation for being the best selling female artist of all time.
    IFPI stated that she has sold over 200 million albums.

    Carey album sales: 165 million.
    Celine: 185 million.

    Mariah got her Diamond Award for 150 million albums sold in 2003, remember: 2003!

    Since then, she has sold a further 15 million albums of Memoirs, Emancipation, E=mc2, The ballads and merry Christmas to you.

    So her album sales now stand at 165.

    I wanna see the link Mariah saying 21 million sold of 1#s, because real sales show it has sold about 17 million worldwide.

    See:

    South Africa 100.000
    Germany 250.000
    Argentina 100.000
    Australia 100.000
    Austria 25.000
    Brazil 1.250.000
    Bulgaria 175.000
    Canada 300.000
    Singapore 200.000
    China 1.000.000 (shipped) 610.000 (sold)
    Korea 300.000 (
    Denmark 58.000
    United States (BMG Music club) 1.000.000
    United States (RIAA) 5.000.000 (5x Platinum) #4 (2 weeks)
    United States (SoundScan) 3.413.000 (until 01/08/2004)
    Spain 100.000
    Europe 2.000.000
    Philippines 100.000
    France 680.000 (2x Platinum) #2 (3 weeks) – compilation chart
    Greece 50.000 (Platinum)
    Holland 80.000 (Platinum) #13
    Japan (Oricon) 2.810.000 #1 (2 weeks)
    Japan (Shipments + Imports) 3.600.000
    Italy 300.000 (3x Platinum)
    Israel 20.000 (Gold)
    Malaysia 300.000 (6x Platinum) #1 (15 weeks)
    Norway 20.000 (Gold) #6
    New Zealand 30.000 (2x Platinum) #8
    United Kingdom (BPI) 300.000 (Platinum) #10
    Czech Republic 10.000 (Gold)
    Sweden 80.000 (Platinum) #8
    Switzerland 50.000 (Platinum) #3
    Taiwan 400.000 (8x Platinum) #1 (12 weeks)
    Venezuela 15.000 (Gold)
    India #2
    Belgium #6
    Finland #9
    Hungary #15

    With these numbers you get 15 million. + other countries: 17 million, not 21 million.

    Now to your “decade for” list:

    I just concentrate on the 5 singers Whitney, Michael, Celine, Mariah and Madonna ok?
    I want to show you that it doesn’t matter which singer was number one or how successful the singer has been during a decade.

    80s: 1 for Michael, 2 for Madonna, 3 for Whitney.
    90s: 1 for Mariah, 2 for Celine, 3 for Madonna.
    00s: 1 for Madonna, 2 for Celine, 3 for Mariah.

    I excluded Michael’s sales after his death.

    BUT: Actually Celine Dion has sold more albums than Carey in the 90s. But because Mariah’s sales were counted and clear by the end of the 90s, she was called “best selling female of the 90s” etc..

    Celine got the Diamond award 2004 (!) for 175 million albums sold worldwide.

    Madonna has more number ones worldwide than Carey, even in Japan (22).

  327. js says:

    hello.
    of every singer has catalogue
    and by year they still sell a lot of album
    just like for example
    musicbox in the 90’s sold over 28 million but already shipped 32 million. because it still sell a lot just like her other album, so its has a lot of effect in her record sales and over all she sold 200 million records
    same with Celine Dion 200 million records
    just like ABBA they still sell 2 to 3 million records per year.

    here read about number 1’s
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_1’s_(Mariah_Carey_album)

    it has sold 5 million alone in us not including bmg
    3 million in Japan and after a years it will shipped into 4 million.2 million in europe. what about the other part of the world ryt.

    Michael Jackson thriller sold 27 million in us but as of today it has sold 29 million and as time goes by it will turn 30million

    so the 160 million records of Mariah Carey is increasing and became 200 million.

    imagine the merry Christmas originaly sold 8 million in US but now sold 15 million all I want for Christmas is you sold 1.1million in Japan but it has also certified million in digital which means has sold it has sold 2million plus in japan…..

    emancipation of mimi originally sold 7.5 million in 2005
    in 2006 it has sold 10 million
    but it still selling a lot so as of 2011 it has sold 12 million

    am I making sense?
    catalogue is still selling alot
    that make an increase in Mariah record sales

    yes Madonna has 22 number 1 in japan
    but she has 950,000 sales there
    but Mariah 27 million.
    so who cares about chart?
    specially in the asia even through the rain that is not successful in us and europe. still top in asia,

    hello Mariah Carey is the number one influenced by many singer here in asia…..
    because her voice is just so fantastic

    and admit it Mariah has a better voice than Madonna you know it!

  328. js says:

    1990 Mariah Carey million
    1991 emotion million
    1993 Music Box 2x Million
    1994 Merry Christmas 2x Million
    1995 Daydream 2x Million
    1997 Butterfly Million
    1998 Number 1’s 3x Million
    1999 Rainbow Million

    thats just her 90’s album not including her sigle sales and 00’s album

  329. js says:

    hello? Madonna is number 1 in 00’s?
    you not making sense moff!
    eminem tops it and for the female its Beyonce and Britney made it to top 8 !you are joking me! hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    madonna and nowhere
    billboard.com/features/artist-of-the-decade-1004053060.story#/features/artist-of-the-decade-1004053060.story

  330. MOFF says:

    Yes I know that Mariah is a better singer. Shes better than Madonna, I don’t deny it.

    But Madonna has sold 300 million records.
    Mariah Carey more than 200 million records, you’re right.

    But Madonna 950.000 records sold in Japan ??

    The Immaculate Collection ALONE sold 1 million in Japan.

    Madonna is the biggest selling female artist.

    And 1#s of course got cataloge sales but surely NOT up to 21 million!

    18 million is a good number.
    So how would True Blue stand ?
    27 million ?
    Like a Virgin? 25 million?

  331. js says:

    and trivia
    Mariah Carey tops the decade end as well as we belong together
    means? she is reign in song of the decade for 20 years!

  332. js says:

    and for your info this page is not Mariah Carey vs Madonna ats for Mariah only.
    why are you here? go to Madonna page!

  333. js says:

    mariah certified sold over 200 million records in the world as she always introduce.
    and as time goes by she will outsell Madonna

  334. js says:

    i did not tell that Mariah out sold Madonna
    i just said her album sales is increasing! are you out of you mind? read the sales about number 1’s I gave it to you already. I don’t hate Madonna she has a huge sales what I’m trying to say is Mariah Carey album sales is increasing. do you understand?

  335. js says:

    see you you have just said Mariah Carey sold 200 million. why are keep on telling that she just sold 160 or 175 million? because you hate her

  336. js says:

    ofcourse Madonna is ahead of Mariah Carey an released more album than Mariah Carey
    music box 32 million
    daydream 25 million
    number 1’s 21 million
    Mariah Carey 15 million
    butterfly 17 million

    good album sales record ryt just like Madonna .

    besides glitter soundtrack is just underated album
    but try to listen to its content even better than rainbow

  337. js says:

    remember Japan and USA is the 2 biggest music industry.

  338. js says:

    what about thriller can you explain why it has sold 110 million?

  339. MOFF says:

    Thriller has not sold 110 million. Sure, its the best selling music album of all time, but it has sold 60 to 70 million copies worldwide. Certifications prove it.
    I don’t hate Mariah, I don’t hate Madonna.
    Carey has sold: 165 (170) million albums + 55 million singles.
    So that does mean: 220 million records sold in total.

    Madonna has sold 200 million albums and over 100 million singles = 300 million records.

    I think Mimis time is over. She has released flops since 2005 and has only one hit album in the whole 00s.

    You cannot know Mimi will outsold Madonna. Because Madonna has catalog sales, and she of course produces more albums. But : As proved by her albums during the 00s (besides American life) she can even hit number 1!
    Hard Candy reached Number one in 38 countries and COADF 40 countries. Celebration was even number one in a few countries and has sold over 2 million by now.
    Every album of the 00s has sold more than any of Mimis (not TEOM)

    and: We belong together is just the most successful song in the USA, not worldwide.

    I know its about “Mariah Carey”, but I dislike people claiming wrong facts in here.

  340. js says:

    hey. thriller reported to be sold 110 million worldwide
    Mariah Carey is not over, she’s on break right now,
    are you a fortune teller to dictate what will happen in the future?
    and Mariah has still a potential to beat the beatles in number singles and sold a lot of records. Madonna then will retire because she is old.

    you know what e=mc2 is not a flop and charmbracelet.
    memoir of an imperfect angel flop as well as the other artist like Christina,avril,Britney….
    because of illegal downloads.
    just like what I’ve told you last time Madonna is lucky because in her time there is no illegal download until 90’s

  341. js says:

    how dare you say that Mariah Carey career is over!
    and give me an evidence that celebration sold 2million in us did not reach 300000?
    atleast Mariah 2nd Christmas album is close to 500000 in us. and as time goes by it will sell like merry christmas

  342. js says:

    glitter 3 million
    greatest hits 4 million
    charmbracelet 5 million
    emancipation of mimi 12 million
    e=mc2 3 million
    memoir of an imperfect angel 2 million

    not bad!
    hello its hard to sell album these days
    kesha’s animal only sold 2 million worldwide!
    it hard to sell 3 million rcords worldwide today!
    celebration 260k in us?
    ryt! too hard to get gold certification,
    celebration got gold because it is a double album!

  343. MOFF says:

    Music: 11 m
    Greatest Hits: 6 m
    American Life: 4 m
    COADF: 11 m
    IGTTYAS: 1 m
    TCT: 1 m
    Hard Candy: 4 m
    Celebration: 2 m (1,4 m by the end of 2009)
    S & S DVD: 0,7 m

    …. more than Mariah ..

    OK. We don’t know Mariah Careys career is over, but the last few years have shown us that Mariah will probably release again a flop album, I don’t it, but we can suppose.
    Same Madonna, maybe she releases a flop, maybe a hit album.
    But because Madonna hasn’t released a new studio album since 2008, we can probably assume a hit album. But: I don’t know.

  344. Shannon says:

    Mariah’s career is not over since she stay the VOICE.The ultimate vocalist that ever lived ! Mariah’s reinvent herself,her vocal reputation with her INCREDIBLE Chritsmas album by 2010 which blow away every Christmas albums by any vocalist ! Mariah’s success will back with her next album taht Madonna’s career is over because she’s old and can’t amaze her fans by sexuals tricks and moves.

  345. Shannon says:

    Js ,you are right.Noone can say Mariah’s career is over,only haters.Mariah’s voice and talent stay unique.Listen on Oh Santa,When Christmas Comes,O Come All Ye Faithfull,etc.Mariah’s voice still incredible after 20 of career.Everyone await Mariah’s new album.Moff lied,Mariah is the best selling female artist of 1990’s not Celine.Moff lie,Madonna’s Music album doesn’t sold 11 million,neither COADF.
    Mariah sold more records than Celine worldwide.Mariah’s 1990’s albums sold better than Celine’s.
    Mariah
    Greatest Hits 6 million
    Glitter 4,5 million
    Charmbracelet 5 million
    The Remixes 700.000
    The Emancipation Of Mimi 13 million
    E=MC2 3,5million
    Memoir Of An Imperfect Angel 2,5 million
    Merry Christmas II You 800,000

  346. MOFF says:

    Celine has sold more records than Mariah Carey, more albums.
    She got her Diamond Award for 175 million album sales, Mariah for 150 million. See ?

    Memoirs 2,5 million ? Disputable ..
    Also Greatest Hits 6 million …

    Mariah sold more records and albums during the 90s, that’s right, therefore she received the Millennium Award, but overall in the 90s, because of Lets Talk About Love etc, Celine has sold more. Fact.

  347. Mariah4ever says:

    Mariah Carey sold way much more albums than Celine for all the 1990 decade.All Mariah’s 1990’s albums surpassed 10 million sales worlwide, Celine Dion had only 5 albums selling over 10 million in the 1990’s .Mariah sold 150 million albums back to 2001,Celine has sold less than 130 million.
    Whitney Houston had sold much more albums than Oldonna in the segment 1985-1994.Whitney was then the best selling female artist of all times,not Oldonna.
    Aidsdonna just showed her naked body and made sexual scandals to sell her crap.Unfortunatelly,Mariah beat her on sales.Mariah is the best selling female artist of all times,Oldonna isjust The Most Immoral Female Artist of all times.

  348. Mariah4ever says:

    Music 9,5m
    Greatest Hits 4m
    American Life 2,5m
    COADF 9
    IGTTYAS 0,5
    TCT 0,4
    Hard can-dick 2m
    Celebration 1m
    All these trashes sells much less than Mariah’s releases in 2000 releases.
    Everybody,Moff is just a delusional she-male that lives as if he was a female whore just like his immoral idol Madonna.Don’t pay attention to the crap he keeps posting herein favor of his alter-ego Aidsdonna.

    Mariah is the greatest female Artist Of all Times.

  349. MOFF says:

    You are so silly :)

    Madonna is the best selling female singles artist of the USA 00s !!
    Second is Christina Aguilera!

    You decreased every album of Madonna !

    Madonna has sold around 40m albums in the 00s, Mariah just 25 m !!

    Hard Candy was a much better seller then E=mc2 because IFPI listed it as the 11th best selling album of 2008 and Mediatraffic as the 9th best selling!

    It has sold over 4 million by now.
    Celebration has sold over 1,4 million according to Mediatraffic, and now it has sold over 2 million!

    Your Memoirs has not sold even 2 million yet!

    You are silly, how do you know “these” sales?
    9,5 Music?

    Celebration 1m ?

    HOW ?

    Are you part of a music institution?

    NO.

    EVERY Madonna album of 00s has more platinum, gold or silver certifications than one of Mariahs worldwide, apart from TEOM.

    FACT

  350. BUTTERFLY says:

    Moff is so delusional ! Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist at 2000 decade behind Britney Spears.Madonna just top the list of greatest bitches of all times among Tiffany Mynxx,Jenna Jameson,Alana,Sylvia Saint,etc…Madonna has nothing to do with an artist,neither a singer.
    Every Madonna’s 2000 release are either platinum,silver or gold in European micro markets like Germany,Italy,Luxembourg,Portugal,Poland,etc…But,Every
    Mariah’s are platinum or gold at least in US and Japan,the two biggest music markets worldwide by far !
    Moff said that Mariah’s career is over.He just forget that Madonna’s ass is creep and spoil,so that she couldn’t amaze pervert anymore by showing her wrinkled ass.
    Mariah is THE VOICE ! Everyone await to her next album !
    FACT
    Madonna never was the best selling female artist,Whitney Houston was.Whitney topped the list of best selling female artist of all times from 1985 to 1995 while Madonna topped the lists of the most scandalous and pervert female artist.
    Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist of all times !
    Get a life,stupid she-male !

  351. MOFF says:

    Shut up, TRISH!

    Mariah is NOT the best selling female artist of the 2000s!

    E = MC2 ?
    Memoirs ?
    Merry Christmas T U ?

    SUCCESSES ?????

    1. Hard Candy has sold 1 million more than E=MC2.
    2. Celebration has sold over 2 million, Memoirs not.
    3. Merry Christmas T U was expected to be a good and successful album, but NO. 0,8 million is not a success.
    Sticky And Sweet instead, its just a Live Album, a DVD and sold as much as Merry Christmas!

    Forget your crap, you lie.

    I think everyone awaits Madonnas next album because she hasn’t released a studio album since 2008, but Mariah has released Merry Christmas T U 2010, so …

    Madonna has sold over 300 million records.
    Mariah 220.

  352. js says:

    hey moff.
    mariah recieve diamond award in 2003 and Celine in 2004
    since the in 2007 they calculate Mariah Carey catalogue and there is a big increase in sales
    in single and album. since then 2003 she didn’t release her emacipation which help her to reach 200 million. and more! in 2007 music box sold already 32 million. with 4 million increase. and alli wabt for Christmas is you ha gone sold 14 million copies worldwide! and her and merry Christmas has sold 15 million.
    and now in 2011 Mariah’s number 1’s officially sold 21 million!
    which gave her, her third bet selling album worldwide.

    and officially emacipation sold 12 million! and we belong together 10 million!

    and moff Madonna is not the best selling sige artist in USA where
    mariah has 3 mutiplatinum single 12 platimun and 25 gold singles in united states en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_certification
    madonna has 26 gold 6 platinum and 3 multiplatinum
    means Mariah out sold Madonna in us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    hellllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooo! try to read!
    and your telling Mariah is over !!!!!!!
    no! infact she had a Christmas concert and all of her performance is standing ovation! and she’s preggy! hehehehe Madonna try to listen to her like virgin and 4 minutes there is a big damage to her voice! like a virgin is kinda small voice while 4 minutes is husky already! and for your in for Celine Dion is flop in sigles!!!

    celebration sold 260000 in us and poor worldwide! memoir sold 2000000 worldwide!

    merry Christmas to you is like merry Christmas it will come back seasonal to conquer the market!

    all of these album is already a success!!!!!!!you hell!
    see the music industry today! its falling down! sales of 3000000 is already the best selling in us! notlike before you should be diamond or so to become the best selling album! and 3 million worldwide is really big today! only single sales increase a lot today! merry chistmas to you is holiday album! and only sold every christmas!

    do you think maiah carey cannot top anymore? that hell must see!
    if Mariah tops again! you kill your self for you bad fortune telling!

    to all Mariah Carey lovers here

    mariah hater is delusional,obscene,insecure,.
    because if they are not!!!!!!!!!
    than why are they visitting this site?
    its not even Mariah vs Madonna!
    its only Mariah Carey the best female artist of all time!!

  353. js says:

    Mariah Carey sold 175 when she recieve chopard award
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chopard_Diamond_award
    read properly!!!!!!mofffff
    since then her album increase in 2007 here is the sales

    musicbox 28million to 32million
    merry Christmas 10 million to 12 million now 15 million
    daydream 21 million to 25 million
    butterfly 15 million to 17 million
    1’s 16 million to 21 million
    rainbow sold 10million as of 2007
    charmbracelet 4million to 5 million

    plus the sigle sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    one of her best catalogue sigle is
    hero!
    all I want for Christmas is you!
    fantasy!
    one sweet day!
    without you!
    when you belive!
    those catalogue is selling a lot!

    plus after chopard award Mariah release emancipation of mimi
    which sold 12 milion album alone and we belong together 10 million and other single sales combination of 7million
    and remember touch my body and obsessed reportedy sold 5 million each!
    means she sold more than 200 million!

  354. js says:

    hey moff I gave you the link of best selling musc artist of 2000’s where in Mariah is the forth in female. and Madonna is nowhere. try to read or do you want glass?

  355. js says:

    moff your notreading to the link I gave you!!!!!!!!!!!1
    madonna is nowhere to the best selling artsit of 2000’s!!!!1111
    mariah is in the list!!!!!!!! try to read!

  356. js says:

    why are you here moff? this is not Mariah vs Madonna

  357. js says:

    madonna read as best selling female artist of all time
    Mariah Carey declare as best selling emale artist of all times!

  358. MOFF says:

    Guinness: “Madonna is the top selling female artist of all time – 75 million albums sold in USA and 125 abroad”
    —> a total of 200 million albums worldwide.

    1. how do you know she got an increase of her catalog sales?

    2. Yes I read properly and it says: “Mariah Carey has sold over 175 (175!) million SINGLES, ALBUMS AND VIDEOS worldwide.

    –> SINGLES, ALBUMS and VIDEOS !!!

    = ?

    = RECORDS, total records !!!!

    The Emancipation of mimi, E=MC2, Memoirs etc have sold a total of 15 million copies worldwide.

    As of 2003, Mariah has sold 150 million albums worldwide + her 15 million since 2005 = 165 million albums!!!!!!!!!

    Why don’t you believe me?

    Celine got her award for 175 million ALBUM sales, ALBUM, not RECORDS!

    WHERE exactly did you get your information of Mariah Carey single sales?

    I’ll show you the right sales:

    Here they are:

    mariahjournal.com/infozone/charts/singles/worldwide/index.shtml

    Didn’t you know Madonna is the best selling female singles artist of the 00s?
    Billboard declared it!
    Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time, not Mariah Carey

    THE DEBATE is called Mariah Carey, female artist of all time, and for YOU she probably is, but she is NOT the best selling female artist of all time, because its Madonna.

  359. BUTTERFLY says:

    Madonna as best selling female artist is just your opinion and wishes Moff.Mariah is the best selling female artist of all times.Madonna has most albums and singles released than Mariah,but Mariah’s sold much better than Madonna’s.Same goes for Celine,she has more than 50 albums released but Mimi totalized more records sold than her.Awards doesn’t say everything on sales,Celine could receive a Award for selling 500 million albums or records worldwide,but it would be not relevant.Only facts doesn’t lie.Celine has 111 million certified sales worldwide while Mariah has 118 million ones.See? About singles,can you tell me how many multimillion and million seller Celine has compare with Mariah at 1990’s ? Can you tell me how many multimillion and million seller singles Celine has at the 2000’s compare with Mariah’s ? Celine even got any single reaching million sales during the entire 2000 decade.So.how can you dare say that Celine sold 50 million singles and Mariah 55 – 60 million ones ? Is this because you hate Mariah ? How can you say that Celine sold 20 million records over Mariah ? Where these delirium sales come from? How do you dare deny that Mariah’s 1990 albums outsold Celine’s ,when every worldwide institution always admit it ? You just repeat Lucy Luke’s crap lie that Mariah’s albums was ahead Celine’s just at the 1990’s.either their respective albums were counted by soon or by late,what is matter is that Mariah’s 1990 albums surpass Celine’s by a respectable difference.Celine has only 2 albums that sold very great in the 1990’s compare with Mariah’s.Mariah has many albums that sold much more better than Celine’s.Just Falling into You and Let’s Talk About Love are not enough to explain that Celine could outsold Mariah by 20-30 million albums.This is ridiculous ! Mariah has Music Box and Daydream that sold very great too.Moreover,Mariah’s # 1’s, Mariah Carey,Merry Christmas,Butterfly,Emotions,MTV Unplugged albums that outsold by far Celine’s All The Way,The Colour Of My Love,These Are Special Times,Celine Dion,Unison,D’eux,The French Album,S’il Suffisait D’aimer,etc…How could dare you said Celine sold more albums than Mariah ? Because the Chopard Award claimed it? You’re so delusional Moff.
    Mariah’s singles alone are more than enough to make her outsold Celine by 40 million records the less.Keep your words straight dear,there is no stupid person here that could swallow your craps.Celine doesn’t sold as much records as Mariah in facts.About Madonna,the Guinness citation mean nothing when any fact doesn’t support its claims.Madonna never sold 200 million albums and 100 million singles worldwide,this is a pure myth !
    The debate is called Mariah,female artist of all times.She is not just for her fans,but for everyone in this planet since no one combine as much assets and achievements as Mariah Carey.Mariah is not only a huge records seller,but also : a unique vocalist,a ultimate singer,an exceptional composer and producer,a legendar Hits maker,an exceptional influencial artist,etc… etc…Love her or hate her,you can’t deny these facts.Mariah is better in those accomplishments than all other huge female artists,So,you can continue to deny it here by posting lies and crap links and arguments,but the facts will never prove the opposite.
    Mariah Carey is the Greatest female Artist of all times !

  360. js says:

    you said Mariah sold 200 million, 220million, 150 million,175,
    you are confusing but not she sold 200 million!
    yes Madonna sold 200 million. as I read and you keep on claiming 350 million!
    where did she sold 150 million?
    so that means they are in the same position.
    billboard diclare Eminem as best seller usher is second Beyonce is third
    mariah is eleventh but 4th in female category! Madonna is just a dance club artist of the decade!

    andwhy are you here?
    this is not Madonna vs Mariah Carey! its only Mariah
    the voice! the female artist of all times!
    and its says here the female artist of all time not best selling female artist of all times!

  361. js says:

    dont you know that Mariah Carey has sold 88.1million records in the united states alone
    and Madonna sold 84.7 records in the united states

    in fact this source Mariahjournal.com/infozone/charts/singles/worldwide/index.shtml

    is not true a big lie its not even her site
    all I want for Christmas is you? only sold 4.5million?
    hell no! 500,000 in the physical sales in us
    and 2,000,000 digital!
    1,100,000 in Japan physical sales and 1,000,000 digital
    670,000 in uk.
    and then 4.5 million?
    its an untrue source

  362. js says:

    butterfly is right!

    give me the link that billboard declare Madonna as bestselling female artist in 2000’s

    about Mariah Carey sales of 2000’s
    Mariah Carey rainbow was released in 1999 november
    and sold a lot in 2000 which is already consider as 2000’s sales!
    so she is not a flop in 2000’s! in fact if you just listen to glitter it is great album! but just underrated becus of film!

    madonna is the one hit wonder of 2000’s with music!
    mariah has 4 number 1 which place her to the second! with most number 1 in 2000’s

  363. js says:

    Mariah Carey rules! Madonna is just old in music industry that is why she has guiness or other reputed sales!
    but if 10 years from now Mariah sales will shipped more that Madonna!
    just like in 2003 Mariah declare as best selling female
    after a year maddona surpass Mariah.
    but AFTER THAT MARIAH WILL RULE

  364. MOFF says:

    Ok guys, but I don’t want here “Mariah is the best selling female artist” ok ?

    TRISH:
    You lie, you lie, you lie.
    Which “facts”
    What do you understand as “Facts” ????

    I claim: 300 million records for Madonna, and TRISH, if you believe in what WIKIPEDIA says (111m Celine and 118m Mariah)

    — YOU SHOULD ALSO BELIEVE THAT MADONNA HAS MORE CERTIFIED SALES than Mariah ?!

    157.3 million ! EVEN more than Michael Jackson!

    What do you say .. ?

    Trish. Celine has sold more albums and Madonna has sold more albums than Mariah. That is s fact, and its proved. Proved by Guinness, by IFPI and Celines Diamond Award which you still call “biased” and irrelevant.

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