The Top Selling Female Artist Madonna Or Mariah Carey

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There has been a lot of debate over who is the best selling female artist. Is it or ? According to the RIAA, the organization that awards album certifications it’s neither. Per the RIAA’s web site, the top selling female act in the United States is Barbra Streisand followed by Madonna and in third. Rounding out the top 5 is Whitney Houston and Celine Dion.

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  1. Realiti Check says:

    Madonna is the top selling female artist worldwide since 1983-2008.

    The SoundScan era only started in 1991 to date. Before than Madonna released 4 studio albums and 4 soundtracks/compilations. Madonna sales 1983-1990 (before the Soundscan era) worldwide/US:-

    1983 Madonna the Album 9,500,000/ 5 x platinum US (estimation)

    1884 Like A Virgin 21,000,000/10x platinum (diamond)
    1886 True Blue 22,500,000/7x platinum
    1987 Who s That Girl 5,000,000/ 1x platinum
    1987 You Can Dance 5,000,000/1x platinum
    1989 Like a Prayer 14,000,000/4x platinum
    1990 I’m Breathless … 6,500,000/2x platinum
    1990 The Immaculate Collection 26,500,000/10 x platinum (diamond)

  2. think says:

    Maybe, but Mariah Carey started singing ten years later!
    if you consider the number of studio albums and Mariah sales… There’s no comparison!
    ten years of Mariah Carey are like 40 of Madonna!

  3. Ryan says:

    Total Album sales; Madonna: 189 Million, Mariah: 146
    Albums released; Madonna: 21, Mariah: 16
    Average album sales; Madonna: 9 million, Mariah: 9.1 m
    Biggest selling album;
    Madonna 26.5 million (The Immaculate Collection)
    Mariah 26 million (Music Box)

    Madonna has sold more, but both artists average album sales are virtually the same. Madonna’s current album Hard Candy has sold almost a million more than Mariah’s new one E=mc2 though. I think the argument could go on forever, but, it looks as though at present both artists are on a par with one another.

    If we are true to total sales though, Madonna is clearly the most successful female recording artist of all time, and the likelihood of Mariah surpassing this is very unlikely.

  4. nathan says:

    I think Mariah is ,even though hard candy sold better than e=mc2 so far,look at the Emancipation of Mimi that sold 15 million, far more than Madonnas confessions on a dance floor, being the top two, the top position fluctuates, last time was Mariah this time Madonna

  5. mario says:

    I want to add that there are besides album sales the single sales of an artist. Madonna is definitely the most successful single artist in the world, even outselling the Beatles.

  6. Marcus says:

    THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, THE DAY MARIAH CARY CAN GO ON TOUR, SELL 282MIL IN TICKETS IN 4TH MONTHS, SELL OUT STADIUMS, PLAY IN FRONT OF 2.5 MILLION PEOPLE, THEN YOU CAN PUT MARIAH CAREY AND MADONNA IN THE SAME SENTENCE. TILL THEN MADONNA IS THE ONE AND ONLY MOST SUCCESSFUL FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST OF ALL TIME IN MUSIC.

  7. Ken says:

    Madonna may be the most successful female recording artist of all time, but she certainly isn’t the most talented. There are far more talented female artists who don’t rely on gimmickry or shock tactics to get their records sold. Let Madonna sell out stadiums; her shows are akin to reality TV and summer blockbuster movies: all flash and no substance.

  8. John says:

    I don’t know why this continues to be debated. Without question Madonna takes the crown for top selling female artist. It’s that simple.

    Madonna both in terms of albums and singles takes the crown. It’s not even close on the total count.

    Madonna’s lead gets even bigger when you measure it in terms of revenue generated. Add up the music, + tours, and her total revenue take is easily at least twice that of Mariah’s.

    Folks can debate all they want about who’s more talented, but there is no debate on who’s the most commercially successful.

  9. RICO says:

    Mariah Carey’s(Voice) is her money maker… That’s Has decreased in that last 5 years even with massive success of her MIMI CD… Still No match for Madonna. Though Mariah does have a better singing voice than Madonna, Still She lacks in public interest… Funny Madonna can still at least over half a million copies of her latest CD Hard Candy in the U.S But roll in 280 million US dollars with her tour. No match at all.. Its all about tickets sales now, cause Madonna knows that where the money is at!

  10. Lawrence says:

    Okay, first off, since when does sold out stadiums, decide who is the most successful. Lucrative maybe but not successful. Mariah Carey has sold 200 million records worldwide. If you add in her single sales as well, that almost accumulates her to 300 million. The success Mariah Carey has had in nearly 20 years, it took Madonna 30 years, that alone should be proof enough. Besides Madonna’s only real strong market is Europe, that’s cause all they like over there is that gay/dance music stuff. Mariah Carey has a poor market in Europe, compared to Madonna, but mops the floor with her in North America and the orient area. The think with Madonna is most of her songs are dance tunes. Mariah Carey on the other hand mixes it up with powerful ballads, songs that are tweaked with R&B and rap. And there is always a few dance songs on there. (Of course her dance songs don’t come close to being as good as Madonna’s). What I am trying to say is that Madonna may be the queen of reinvention, but her sound has always stayed moderately the same, just her image changed.
    Mariah Carey on the other had has shown great versatility. Her first album was power ballad heaven. On her second disc, she changed it up a bit and went for a little gospel/soul touch. And all in all it was a great disc. Then in the mid to late 90’s she changed it again. She infused R&B and rap into her music completely, giving herself a new sound. At this point in her career she just makes the kinda music that she wants. Adding a little bit of what she has done through the course of her career into her new music. So this is why Mariah Carey is the most successful female artist in the history of recorded music.

  11. RICO says:

    ONCE AGAIN….. Before Nielsen Soundscan Madonna Has release 6 releases.. The numbers then or in fact under certified.. When they come to date.. Madonna numbers will be much higher well deserved to be acknowledge..
    Madonna has always been BASHED…. since day one. Mariah has for the most part has been well received. But there was nothing re-Inventived nothing fresh.. And at 40 she still like to ask like a child…Sorry my friend above
    Mariah Carey may have achieved Massive in less time than Madonna.. She may have changed thing here and there.. But has featured 50 artist per track, plus most of Mariah’s hits are NOT solo efforts.. Like 99% of Madonna’s are solo HITS…

    Madonna has always been ahead of the game and her time…Leaving Mariah Carey 5 years behind to date.

  12. janblairn says:

    The title is much deserved by Queen Celine D. because she totally sold out 250 million album copies worldwide, she is humble and down to earth female recording pop artist. she is good and makes her spectators amazed to her ever powerful, echoic 5 octave vocal even not using whistle…

  13. Nassrol says:

    No Mariah is the biggest selling artist..she already receive award by World Music award for Being BEST SELLING ARTIST OF THE MILLENNIUM.And she is the first female artist to get Chopard Diamond Award by W.M.Award for album sales surpassing 150 millions in 2003..and only 2 female artist receive this award so far..Mariah and Celine..No Madonna.

    1.Mariah Carey=13,500,000
    2.Emotion=8,000,000
    3.MTV Unplugged=7,000,000
    4.Music Box=32,000,000 in an interview by radio station Mariah said that she had sold 30 millions albums with music box..you can check Wikipedia and type Best selling album of all time
    ….Merry Christmas=12,000,000
    5.Daydream=25,000,000
    6.Butterfly=15,500,000
    7.#1’s=17,000,000
    8.Rainbow=10,000,000
    9.Glitter=3,500,000
    10.Greatest Hits= 4,000,000
    11.Charmbracelet=5,000,000 sold by late 2008 announced by Universal
    12.The Emancipation Of Mimi=10,2000,000 by late 2008
    13.E=Mc2=2,500,000
    14.The Ballads=600,000 so far released 3 weeks ago

  14. maliha says:

    Celine Dion sold over 230m albums, its official.
    Mariah Carey sold over 200m albums, again its official
    Madonna sold over 180m albums worldwide, once a90gain it is official.

    Madonna sold the most singles for a female artist. 130m(including 4 minutes and gi2m)
    Mariah Carey sold over 100m singles worldwide
    Celine Dion sold over 70m singles worldwide.

  15. precious says:

    oh my oh my!
    Madonna rules!.. even though what you may say.. blah blah blah…
    and why don’t you mind BRITNEY SPEARS?.. in a short span of time she’s on the top list.. as we all know, she’s the POP PRINCESS!

    and to think, Mariah is the WORLD’s SELF-PROCLAIMED DIVA!
    my my my… pity on her!

    MADONNA AND BRITNEY RULES!

  16. Michael says:

    All too funny this goes on all these years later. All one has to do is research (takes about as much time as tying in your disputes here). All one has to do is go to Guinness book of WORLD Records and ALL the information is there for you. Sorry Mariah Fans…it is indeed CERTIFIED to be MADONNA.

    Also, the person posting all of Mariah Carey sales numbers need to check those. They are WRONG! No album in History has sold that many copies other than Michael Jackson’s Thriller AND Shania Twain’s COME ON OVER.

    Best wishes to all.

    Michael

  17. sasha says:

    Dear Michael, you are retarded. music box has sold over 32m copies worldwide, Shania Twain’s come on over has sold over 39m and the best selling album by a female artist is the bodyguard by Whitney which sold over 42m worldwide. Thriller has sold over 67m worldwide. Madonnas best selling album is the immaculate collection which sold over 26.5m worldwide, the next one is like a virgin which sold over 22m worldwide, true blue only sold 19m. worldwide. that’s it. highest selling album of the 90s for Madonna was the ray of light CD, it only sold 15m. and every other one flopped. in 2008, Madonna released her 11th studio album meanwhile so did Mariah. Mariah worked harder in her shorter career span.

    Besides overpriced concerts don’t decide who is the best selling female artist.

  18. Ben says:

    It’s a bit silly to compare Mariah and Madonna, Mariah is a true singer with her own style while Madonna is a performer who is doing some new “tricks” every time.
    I respect Mariah for her talent and Madonna for her
    business-instinct.

  19. James says:

    Guinness world records list Madonna as the greatest selling female artist ever. Only The Beatles, Elvis, MJ, Bing Crosby, and Frank Sinatra have sold more. I would believe that more than what fans say.

  20. gusse says:

    Are you sick? Don’t you know that Madonna is the best selling female artist of all time,and it isn’t some fu**ing Mariah Carey!! Madonna is the queen of pop!!!

  21. gusse says:

    And James, you’re speaking the truth, in Guinness worlds record you can read it. Madonna is the greatest female artist on the earth

  22. Ron says:

    Barbra Streisand is for sure the most talented of all. Not only the best singer in the world but also a great actress. None of the others ever had an A hit movie.

  23. chyldofgod09 says:

    if Mariah isn’t number one than why did Sharon Osbourne announce it at one of her live performances on live television stating that Mariah topped Elvis and also earlier before she topped Elvis she performed the national anthem where they announced her top female recording artist in history. if they were lying it would have been turned into a scandal which it wasn’t.

  24. chyldofgod09 says:

    Sorry I made a mistake but it still proves that she beat Madonna

  25. chyldofgod09 says:

    youtube.com/watch?v=dbRZAYdpyW4

  26. fierce says:

    i don’t think we have to argue about who’s better than the other… Both artist are extremely talented and no one else follows!
    Madonna is best in pop, Mariah, ballad & R & B… By the way, I’m big fan of both… Let’s just be happy that they are both continually giving good music for us to hear!!! Peace!!!

  27. Michael says:

    Wow, what arguments! It isn’t simply talent and “voice.” Mariah has one of the most beautiful voices of all time, no question. I don’t think people should underestimate Madonna’s contributions to music. She, live Elvis, was a pioneer, and is eternally a music legend. She helped change the face of music for female artists. No one should diss on the fact that her accomplishments took 30 years compared to Mariah’s 20. How many artists have the staying power to last 5 years?? That is their true legend, both of them…to be remembered 50 years later like Elvis, The Beatles, Jimmy Hendricks…and so on.

  28. onslaught says:

    Madonna is the greatest female artist of the World. There’s no doubt. Mariah 18 #1’s are only in USA. Outside USA, Madonna has more #1’s than Mariah.

  29. John says:

    Mariah takes the crown indefinitely. Yes, Mariah is behind Madonna with a slight difference. BUT, do not forget, Mariah came out like, what, 10 YEARSS later than the “like-a-virgin” Moodonna!!!

    10 YEARS! Yet, only a slight differnce in their millions of album sales. This all goes to show Mariah’s album’s sales capability. That is, way better than moodonna!

    PLUS. MARIAH WAS THE BIGGEST SELLING ARTIST OF THE 90’S WITH A NUMBER 1 HIT SINGLE EVERY SINGLE YEAR! BEAT THAT – MADONNA!

    AND SHE TOO TRIUMPH MADONNA IN FIRST WEEK SALES DURING “E=MC2” AND “HARD CANDY”.

    Needless to say, MARIAH also has the voice capability Madonna can never reach. yes, Madonna can dance – so WHAT?! EVERYONE can do that, some even better! but not everyone can acquire and mimic Mariah’s god-given voice of 5 octaves or so.

  30. nassrol says:

    Guinness book of records stated Madonna as most successful female artist..but not biggest selling female artist.. Mariah even beat Whitney, Michael Jackson, Celine, Garth Brooks etc to be Most Successful Artist in the 90’s By Billboard Music Award. Plus Mariah Is the FIRST Female Artist To get Chopard Diamond Award by World Music Award.and And World Music Award also give Mariah an award for being the Best Selling Female artist of The Millennium…………….some of them are fools….. the biggest selling album is thriller which believe to sold more than 100 mill. Mariah album music box sold more than 32 million copies.. so far highest selling album by Madonna is just immaculate collection which sold 22 mill… Mariah have 2 album listed as 100 best selling album of all time. Madonna have one.. Mariah’s ‘Daydream’ album sold 25 million. And Sony music stated that Daydream sold 16 million within 6 month only.. for your info… Madonna takes more than 35 years to sell 200 mill record. But Mariah takes 18 years to sell the same amount as Madonna…plus Mariah has 18 number singles. Plus BMI, MTV, World Music Award, Billboard, American Music Awards dubbed Mariah as biggest selling female artist…. Plus hard candy might outsold E=Mc2 by a million.but don’t you remember Mariah 2005 album outsold Madonna by more than 2 million worldwide,and outsold more than 4 million in US market. Where Confessions on the Dancefloor went platinum. And Mariah 2005 album went 6 times platinum. Also US number album in that year. And we belong together also the year best selling single. 14 weeks at number #1…. hard candy does not score any number one single for Madonna..but Mariah has both number one album and single

  31. Nicolas says:

    You have to decide what are criteria to make a decision!
    You can’t just compare numbers like that! Madonna sold 3,5 million copies of Hard Candy in 2008., then we must see same about Mariah! She sold 2,5 millions! 2008 is specific year about album sales! It’s lowest selling year! Coldplay’s Viva la Vida is best selling album of 2008 with 6 millions – which makes Madonna and Mariah one of best selling artist last year! Even that’s their lowest selling albums! You also need to conclude why did Madonna “failed” in 90’es! Her erotica period cost her a lot! Then she sold just 5 millions copies of album Erotica, but today people can understand importance and quality of that album! Madonna was always more controversial than Mariah so that’s the reason why she failed in moments! Absolutely, I have to agree that Mariah is better vocal than Madonna is, but we can’t use that as criterion. Good voice doesn’t mean good artist!
    Someone said that full stadiums are not criterion for this! But I can’t agree! Let’s face it, Mariah can’t do her concerts on big stadiums because she can’t even sell-out her concerts in small arenas (in USA)! And that’s fact! Percentage Sold is between 70-100% in her last tour The Adventures of Mimi Tour (2006)! 5 concerts are even cancelled (Denver, Seattle, Hershey, New York) due to low ticket sales! I’m saying this because Lawrence said something about Madonna’s low sell in USA and gay/dance success in Europe! Lawrence, dance music is not gay. Your sentence can tell us about you don’t know anything about Europe, and you don’t understanding why’s that music style so great for them! Anyway, Europeans think of our music is gay (because of girlie voices in rap, R&B songs – Kanye West, Justin Timberlake,much more…..). What’s more relevant criterion for our debate than concerts and album sales (they are singers!!!!). Madonna sold more albums, she was best solo artist on tour back then in 80’es (in 90’es she toured once because of Evita film and pregnancy), she’s best solo artist today! What else do you need???? I don’t know why is it so difficult to accept????? Madonna is not Queen without reason! And one more, can you tell me who is better paid artist???? Again Madonna! that’s all with reason!
    So, please do not spend time on stupid debate! Answer is so clear!
    Now surely all think that I’m a fan of Madonna! Surprise!!!!!! I’m NOT! I’m fan of Mariah! But I’m objective! You should too!

  32. Q says:

    Well, Nicolas, if you’re a fan of Mariah, you should be supporting and arguing for her :) That’s what fans do for their favorite artists and not be “objective” or whatever you call it. BTW, I call it – “backstabbing” :)

    It’s MY opinion :)

  33. Nicolas says:

    Q,
    i don’t have to be supporting for Mariah because nothing will change my mind! :) I love her, and I will love her no matter how many album copies she sell! :)
    I’m objective, so I must say that Mariah has better vocal than Madonna, but Mariah is not Queen! Madonna is! Well, Mariah is my Queen but that all!
    I LOVE YOU MARIAH! (but I love Madonna too)

  34. Q says:

    I don’t really see Madonna as the Queen. I don’t see any reason why the hell people call her the Queen! What, just because she dance sexy and launched MTV or something?!

  35. Nicolas says:

    Read my first post and you’ll see why… If you don’t get it, I can’t help you!
    I said that good voice doesn’t mean good artist! People want more! And Madonna can give that to them! Her shows are spectacular! You should go on one! She wouldn’t do, what she does if people don’t like that!
    You can write what ever you want and I’ll be happy to explain it to you! :)

  36. raynaldo capron says:

    Let’s make this official
    Madonna is a taste of hard candy.it looks sweet ,you taste,it and its nasty and it gives you rotten teeth.listening to a Madonna album is like taking a rake and rubbing it against a chalkboard.no offense to Madonna and no offense to her fans but I think its complete sh**.
    now a Mariah Carey album is different you get timeless ballads,unforgettable lyrics and unreachable high and low notes.so let the record show Madonna is abetter performer not because of her voice trust me,but because she use flashy lights to make up what she lack.but Mariah has the voice and the talent so Mariah definitely has the upper hand.and she is also a better songwriter as well

  37. Nicolas says:

    Raynaldo, I agree with you in almost everything you wrote!
    Mariah is better singer, songwriter… That’s fact! And I’m supporting her 100%!
    But what we are talking about is best selling, most wanted artist… which is totally different thing! I repeat, good voice doesn’t mean good artist! (which Mariah is, I’m not saying she’s not)
    There’s no place on Earth where people don’t know Madonna and where most of them like her! She can do tours in every city she wants! And it’s not same when it comes to Mariah! She’s not that commercial as Madonna and it’s price for it! Madonna has good sense for success and money and that’s what it makes her biggest female star right now! She’s better entertainer, maybe the best! And that’s why she’s biggest star, and why millions of people come to her concerts….
    But what I can’t agree is that her all song lyrics are sh**! She’s so controversial so her lyrics are too! For example, American Life album has great lyrics (especially Nothing Fails)! And her Erotica album is misunderstood… and whole other! She has some other way expressing her emotions! That’s big difference!

  38. john says:

    Mariah is truly a zero here in Europe. No one really cares. Madonna is a WORLD STAR.

  39. Dandie says:

    Mariah is BIG in the USA and Japan but Madonna is HUGE worldwide.

    Enough said!

  40. NoMoreLies says:

    ..and people don’t call Madonna- The Queen of Pop… for nothing.

  41. Mack says:

    OH my God,,, and they keep fighting even if they see the truth on records!!!!
    they must be either blind or stupid…..

    LONG LIVE THE QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE!!!

    and 26 years of amazing music.

  42. C says:

    Completely agree with you ‘Mack’. Long live the Queen!

  43. Jesse Andrews says:

    Ok let me tell you something

    Madonna sold more…ya….in 30 years!
    Mariah has had 20! lets see how much Madonna sells with 10 years taken of her carrer…who wins..Mariah.
    When Mariah is Madonna age in music…with she can do if she pleases because she has the TALENT, she will out sell Madonna.

    I don’t hate Madonna but honestly besides “COADF” she has hasn’t had a really amazing CD since “The Ray Of Light”

    All Mariah CDs have bean good in my book besides “Rainbow” and “Glitter” and she has that amazing voice that is one of the best of all time, you can’t lie about that. You think Madonna could sing Emotions, didn’t think so.

    Also how has more number 1 singles…MARIAH

    1/2 of Madonna’s fan’s are gay, I don’t have a problem with gay people but there are more gay people in the world then people think. Alot of them just never come out.

    Frig I’m gay……………………………………………………………………………………………….

    but I would rather listen to someone how has true talent can hold a note and wright meaningful songs that make you think. Yes Mariah has her share of pop songs, but Madonna that all you here pretty much the girl should retire because even THE GAY PEOPLE <<<<<<<<< aren’t liking her sh**. Well at least I’m not.

    Mariah forever yes her voice is not as good as it was in the 90’s but she need to rest it because she works all the time. Works a lot harder then Madonna’s diary as, also Mariah have NEVER crossed the line for sex appeal, have you seen the touch my body video, if anything she makes fun of it. Something Madonna HAD TO DO to sell album,

    Madonna’s Erotica anyone”)

    Mariah forever

  44. Dany Carey says:

    OMG !!!
    THE ANSWER IS SO OBVIOUS !!! MARIAH CAREY = BEST ARTIST AND THE BEST SELLING ARTIST EVER.. AND WELL: PRETTY MUCH THE BEST IN MUSIC !!!
    MARIAH 4EVER !!!! YAY !!!! :D

  45. Nicolas says:

    OK, some like Mariah and other like Madonna. There’s nothing wrong about it.
    I’m just saying that Madonna is biggest selling female artist, most wanted, but not best vocalist! She’s too far from good vocalist!
    But, if you ask someone to tell you some Madonna’s songs, everyone would know it! Everyone knows Vogue, Like a Prayer, Like a Virgin, Material Girl, Papa Don’t Preach, La Isla Bonita, Holiday, Frozen, Music, Hung Up, 4 Minutes etc. But I wouldn’t say same for Mariah. People know few her songs. And we talk about regular people, not craziest fans.
    And one more thing! People do not care only about singing, they want whole packing. Madonna is not singer, she’s icon.
    BTW. what’s wrong with gay people loving Madonna. You know what people say about gay. They have have more sense for aesthetics! :)))) (joke) Gay people, don’t be mad at me! :))))
    And we are not talking about what will be in 20 years! We talk about now! Madonna is better entertainer! That’s fact!
    In 80’es, Madonna was on beginning of her career but she was icon then too! And just after 2 albums! Mariah didn’t made that success! Maybe in USA only!
    One question, why Mariah doesn’t have highest grossing tour by a solo artist???????? Madonna’s tours are highest grossing tours or one of highest that year! Sticky & Sweet grossed 280 millions $ with 2,5 millions people watching it, and it not end! She continues this summer, and 1 million tickets are sold at the beginning of sale (that’s 100 millions $). Not to mention that she didn’t go to Japan and Australia, where they want her so much!
    So please, stop being babies and be realistic!

  46. Nicolas says:

    I forgot!
    Look this!
    RIAA
    riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=tblTopArt
    1. Barbra Streisand= 71 million (8. overall)
    2. Madonna= 63,5 million (15. overall)
    3. Mariah= 62,5 million (16. overall)

    And it even doesn’t matter! They are both great! Long live the Queen and Mariah!

  47. Oscar says:

    Madonna is the greatest female artist ever!!!
    Mariah is a big zero, her music is so boring, and her destiny is to disappear.

  48. datf says:

    Madonna is the best selling female artist. she beats Mariah hands down even in the united states. Mariah got 62.5 million certified album because she has tons of shipment. shipments does not equate to sales.
    music box for instance, sold less than 8 million copies according to Soundscan, and yet her company has shipped 10 million copies. her over shipped albums include: emotions, music box, daydream, butterfly, #1’s and glitter. and they are over shipped at least 0.5 million copies each. up to even over 2 million copies for music box and daydream. counting sales, she has sold only about 59.5 million albums in the united states, including her uncertified albums like the remixes etc.
    Madonna on the other hand, has a lot less over shipped albums, her only being bedtime stories, over shipped by 0.7 million copies, and something to remember, which over shipped 0.9 million copies, a lot less than what Mariah can over ship for one album. counting sales, Madonna has sold 62 million albums in the united states. Madonna is still 3 million ahead of Mariah is America.

    as for worldwide sales,
    let me show you the most accurate statistics for album sales:
    this is Mariah Carey’s sales:
    – Mariah Carey: 13,500,000
    – Emotions: 8,000,000
    – MTV Unplugged: 6,000,000
    – Music Box: 25,000,000
    – Merry Christmas: 10,000,000
    – Daydream: 20,000,000
    – Butterfly: 7,000,000
    – #1’s: 13,500,000
    – Rainbow: 8,000,000
    – Glitter: 2,000,000
    – Greatest Hits: 3,000,000
    – Charmbraclet: 3,000,000
    – The Remixes: 800,000
    – The Emancipation Of Mimi: 10,000,000
    – E=MC2: 2,000,000
    – The Ballads: 500,000
    Total: 131,800,000

    now for Madonna’s sales:
    – Madonna: 8,000,000
    – Like A Virgin: 19,000,000
    – True Blue: 21,000,000
    – Who’s That Girl: 4,500,000
    – You Can Dance: 4,500,000
    – Like A Prayer: 12,000,000
    – I’m Breathless: 5,500,000
    – The Immaculate Collection: 25,000,000
    – Erotica: 5,500,000
    – Bedtime Stories: 6,500,000
    – Something to Remember: 6,000,000
    – Evita: 6,500,000
    – Ray Of Light: 15,000,000
    – Music: 11,000,000
    – GHV2: 6,000,000
    – American Life: 3,500,000
    – Remixed & Revisited: 1,000,000
    – Confessions On A Dance Floor: 8,500,000
    – I’m Going To Tell You A Secret: 1,000,000
    – The Confessions Tour: 1,300,000
    – Hard Candy: 3,500,000
    Total: 174,800,000

    Madonna has sold over 40 million copies more album worldwide than Mariah. this is undeniable.
    Mariah, other than being the queen of r&b, is the queen of exaggeration.

  49. wouldn't you like 2 know says:

    Ms. Carey has talent, end of story! Without the flash, she could still wow her audience. Not so sure about the other candidates.

  50. oo says:

    Ms. Carey is just a slut, and her albums are so boring,like her!
    Actually she is only a local star.
    Madonna is the Greatest Female Artist of All Time!

  51. Bob says:

    I think both artist are very good. Financially Madonna is the best, and to be honest, I think she works much harder than Mariah at producing music. We must also understand that talent comes in many forms and cannot be based solely on vocal ability. Mariah is a vocalist and Madonna an entertainer.Album sales post-2000 are generally much weaker than album sales between 1970-2000 as a result of improved technology and the ability to copy, share and download music for free, so using Album sales totals or revenue generated would not be the best measure in determining who is better. The better artist would be the one who has had highest number of cumulative weeks at number 1 over the entire span of their music careers. Here Mariah(79 weeks) beats Madonna(52 weeks). Mariah shares this record with Elvis; even though she has had a shorter career span than Madonna thus far. The rating does not just rely on Album sale, but on many factors, such as radio/airplay hours, number of request,global distribution of demand…etc. Mariah also has 18 number 1 hits compared to Madonna’s 12. She is likely to surpass the record of 20 number 1 hits set by the Beatles. The reason for Madonna having higher sales is because she has been in the industry for longer and also because she is able to market herself better. As I said above, both Artist are good and it would be tough to choose the better. If we look at it from a financial perspective, then Madonna trumps. However, if we look at it from a statistical perspective then Mariah is the better one. I would go with Mariah.

  52. hmm. says:

    No one can be 100% the amount an album sells, there can only be estimates. As for the best selling female artist, well everyone is forgetting Celine Dion. She sold 63 million albums worldwide with TWO albums never mind all her other releases which have sold well. She has sold at least 210 million albums, easily and that is not including her single sales. MHWGO sold about 10 million copies (second biggest single by a female artist.) She has sold tens of millions of french albums for example: D’eux is the BIGGEST selling french album of all time as it has sold 9 million copies worldwide. However, between Madonna and Mariah I think Madonna clearly takes it on single sales (100M+). Fact. Mariah, I think, has sold more albums (190M+).

    However, if the Guinness World Records says Madonna has sold 256M records and she has sold 100M singles, then that means she has sold about 150M albums, yeah? Slightly confusing.

  53. datf says:

    Nah, Celine Dion only sold around 170 million albums. like Mariah Carey, some of Celine Dion’s sales are being exaggerated by the shipment.
    and even if weeks at no.1 or how many hits are being compared, other than USA, Madonna wins everywhere else. Madonna has 13 no.1 hits in UK, while Mariah has 2 only. Canada: Madonna 20, Mariah 7. Australia: Madonna 11, Mariah 2. and of course there are a lot more countries which Madonna has the most hits in, why else would hung up hold the world record for hitting no.1 in the most countries.

  54. Mjau says:

    Celine Dion did NOT sold over 200 million! (real number is about 170 million)
    If Mariah has 18 #1, Madonna has 37 Top 10 singles (more than anybody else)!
    If Celine Dion has second best selling single by female artist, Madonna has highest selling video single of all-time (male or female artist)!
    Madonna is best female artist in every country, Mariah and Celine aren’t!
    Mariah has 5 Grammy Awards, Madonna has been nominated for 29 Grammy Awards, 7 of which she won!
    Madonna has 12 multi-platinum albums (second only to Barbra Streisand)
    Madonna has surpassed The Beatles for the most gold certified singles in the US (25) with the release of Hung Up. (after that she released 4 Minutes – 2x Platinum).
    Madonna is also the most successful female artist on the UK charts with 62 top ten hits!
    She is also the most successful artist on Billboard’s Hot Dance Club Play chart.
    Madonna’s 2005 single Hung Up topped charts in a record 45 countries (world record)!!!!!!!!!
    Madonna is recently ranked as the most successful solo artist (second over-all, behind The Beatles) in the latest issue of Billboard magazine listing the Top Hot 100 Artists of All-Time.

    Queen is still the Queen!

  55. fgs. says:

    Who cares about sales? Mariah, Celine, Madonna, Whitney, Barbara, the female artists of the era. No one can deny how much they have achieved and how much some of them have influenced others. They all give amazing music and some are clearly a lot more talented than others e.g. Mariah: 5 octave vocal range and an unbelievable vocal talent, whereas Madonna doesn’t even come close to the other female artists, vocally. They have all sold hundreds of millions of albums&singles so why is there such a big debate. They all have significant achievements:

    Mariah – 18 Number ones. 180M albums sold worldwide. 5 octave vocal range.
    Celine – Two albums that have sold over 30M. MHWGO is second biggest single by female artist. 200M worldwide. Approx $238M from her Taking Chances Tour.
    Madonna – 100M Singles. 180M albums. Highest tour gross by a female artist, approx $280M.
    Whitney – Not a lot of releases but 140M albums sold and 50M singles which is an amazing achievement considering the amount of albums released. IWALY is the best selling single by a female artist.
    Barbara – Best selling female in the US and 140M albums.

    They have all had some influence within the music industry and on other vocalists who are becoming prominent today. So why does it matter who has sold the most because they have all had success that everyone dreams of.

  56. Mjau says:

    MADONNA – 150M SINGLES, OVER 200M ALBUMS
    it’s big difference
    CELINE – 170M ALBUMS!
    MARIAH – close to 200M

    you can’t take fan web sites for relevant source!

  57. fgs. says:

    Celine Dion has sold more than 170M albums. since the World Music Awards gave her the Diamond Award for sales of 175M in 2004 and it has been 5 years and she has sold millions of albums since then. So its more than 175M. your saying Madonna has sold 350M records, I find that hard to believe but all I was saying was that who cares about sales when they give us music.

  58. Mjau says:

    Ok!
    I doesn’t matter, but that’s the subject of this theme!
    But after 2004, Celine sold around M!
    2005. On ne change pas – 1.5M
    2007. Taking Chances – 3.5M
    2007. D’elles – 1M
    2008. Complete Best – 0.2M
    2008. My Love: Essential Collection – 1.5M
    TOTAL: 7.7M
    So if she sold 170M till 2004, after she sold 7.7M, total number is 180M
    I0m just saying she did not sell as many as Mariah and Madonna!

  59. bob says:

    Madonna is simply a money making machine. Beyonce is heading in the same direction. We can banter all we like about album sales and records and various statistics and use it to justify our conclusions, but at the end of the day each individual will have an opinion of who is better. I prefer to listen to someone who can sing. Madonna has also had a much longer career than Mariah and Mariah has achieved in 10 years what it took Madonna to achieve. Madonna is just there to make money…simple. Celine is even better than her.

  60. Mjau says:

    Bob,
    speak for yourself!
    I prefer listening Madonna rather than Mariah and Celine!
    They are not my type of music!
    And there’s lot of people who agree with me!
    And also, I respect Mariah’s and Celine’s fans!

  61. Erwin says:

    Come on !!!! ….EVEN your grandma, grandpa and little children around the world have heard of Madonna.

    The same can not be said of Mariah Carey.

    Talking about Madonna is like talking about Michael Jackson (RIP). He is the King and she is the Queen.

    There is no debate…Madonna is the Goddess.

  62. Matthew says:

    Mariah Carey is the best selling female artist with a proven (yes proven!) 200 million albums sold worldwide, plus 50 million singles sold worldwide giving her total rounded sales of 250 million records sold worldwide. Also, Mariah Carey is the greatest female singer with the greatest female voice ever. Madonna can’t sing. Michael Jackson is the best selling solo artist, male or female, of all time! The Beatles are the best selling group artist of all time.

  63. Friend says:

    Mariah is not best selling artist! You wish!
    Best selling
    female – Madonna
    male – Michael Jackson
    group – The Beatles

    Mariah’s fans are crazy! Why’s so important to you to hear that Mariah is best selling???
    Madonna’s fans don’t care so much! Maybe because we know she’s best selling female artist! We enjoy her music! Maybe you should do the same, and not be obsessed about numbers! Maybe that’s why Madonna sold more!

    MADONNA IS THE QUEEN (not Mariah)
    and Jackson is the King!

    The End!

  64. vince ciccone says:

    l also think it does not matter who has bad more sells. lt’s hows made the fans and people who are not fans dance for all these years and enjoy feeling good and that’s Madonna and she is the only artist that makes you enjoy life throw her music for her music and shows are uplifting and all the artists that try to be like her are never the same and she made these other artists want to be in the industry cause they all want to be her but as Justin Timberlake said on air,their are so many Madonna wannabees and that he has even dated a few.Also apart from her music the world does everything that she does.Foe example she does yoga,exercises everyday and gives millions of dollars to help children from dying and it makes everyone want to give money to people that don’t have anything and so l think she is not just the one and only queen of pop but the only icon and RIP Michael Jackson as l think apart from Madonna he was the only person that deserves to be the king of pop of all time and even though l was not a fan he did have a lot of great songs back in the day but Madonna is the dancing queen and her music will always stand the tests of time as she starts everything that is great and has been writing and had the producers that she wanted from day one, not the producers that the record company wanted her to have cause if she did not like the way an album sounded she would tell them the way she wanted the track to sound and were she wanted the bass etc and also insisted on producers that never produced before from day one and it worked.

  65. kakadi says:

    Matthew, you arguments are deeply flawed.

    Mariah’s best selling female title is a myth and her sales are inflated. Just because she can sing and she dominates US charts, they don’t make Mariah the best selling female worldwide. Diamond Awards was given based on her sales in the 90s. Her US Number Ones are based on (mainly) airplay not sales. Her digital sales are less impressive than Madonna or Celine Dion.

  66. Lisa says:

    Oh Marcus, comment #6, you speak the truth. And Erwin and Friend and whoever else who an speak from fact that, apart from someone’s OPINION, the FACTS are that Madonna is the best, Madonna stretches our collective imaginations, has extended herself creatively, (hello? has B or Mariah EVER tried something new? No.), has more energy and selling power than anyone. Besides Barbra Streisand, I guess. Well, she’s a legend and Madonna is as well. So there we go.

  67. Darren says:

    Mariah is boring and Madonna is just ok….. They may be the biggest of the 20th and 21st Century but Janet is the best that ever done it on the female side…….

  68. Suzie says:

    Madonna rules! You don’t know what to expect from her! She’s queen of reinvention! Best performer ever!
    Mariah is boring! Very boring! She was good in 90es! But now – very bad!
    Janet????????? Ha ha! You’re trying to be funny????? I won’t even comment this!

  69. here's the facts says:

    enough with all the talking…fans can say anything…and if we look through the history,even the Guinness world book of record has done mistakes in listing the records holders…and not just once,but many times.so I would say here that we should look at the awards that Madonna and Mariah have received… Mariah received artist of the decade award,artist of the millennium,and so on..and has Madonna received that kind of respect???the awards were given by those music experts and are deniable…if Madonna is the best selling female artist,then they would have awarded her,but why they awarded Mariah???i guess all of you can simply think of the answer right???so that’s it, according to the music experts, Mariah went beyond Madonna..that’s why Mariah got the awards

  70. Here's the fact says:

    Here’s the fact,
    that’s your fact! Look better about awards! You said some dumbest things I wouldn’t comment!

  71. Alexis says:

    Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of all time.
    Okay, Madonna has more years of career than Mariah, BUT !!!! let’s remember that Madonna went out of the artistic media for a while, because she was making Evita film, she was pregnant,etc…. so you have to take those years less in those times, Mariah was selling a lot of CDs, those were the biggest moments of Mariah, but when Madonna reappeared on 1998, began to sell more CDs than Mariah Carey, and then Mariah went down.
    You have made some mistakes with some sales, confessions on a dance floor did not sell 8 million, now it has sold over 12 millions so far.
    And well, let’s face it guys, Madonna is a much higher seller, even in her albums of the 80s, Mariah’s 90 CDs sold less than some of them, up to this date is still like that.
    But Mariah is a better vocalist !!! no doubt of that !!! I would call Mariah the queen of r&b.

    Even though Mariah is less successful, is still so successful , and is admirable as a person :D

    But speaking about sales, Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of the world.

    But, as another said, the important is that they are great, and they give us good music.

    So, I would call Mariah the QUEEN OF R&B

    AS WELL AS MADONNA IS THE QUEEN OF POP

  72. Alexis says:

    PD: Nicolas: Thank you very much for being objective and even though you are a huge Mariah’s fan , thanks a lot for recognizing the truth: Madonna is a better seller than Mariah in CDs and obviously much more in tours, see Mariah’s fans ? He is an objective person and realistic, and you should too, and let me tell you, seeing a Mariah’s fan speaking with the truth, that has more value than many other words that others may say.

    Q: How do you want Nicholas to support Mariah ? arguing for her ! and speaking with lies as most of Mariah’s fans do ??? Nope, he he’s realistic. The best way to support her, is to buy her albums, believe in her, love her, being thankful of the music she brings to him, enjoy her !!! But you have to face it Q -> Madonna is a best seller ! That’s the topic, not the voice or the talent.

    But as I said it yesterday. For me Mariah is the queen of R&B

    And now, I’m objective too: Even though I’m a Madonna’s fan, I know she is the best selling female artist of all time in the world (I don’t say it because I’m a fan, I’m saying that because is true, if that wouldn’t be true, I would recognized it for sure) BUT !!!!! I know that she is not the most talented, I know completely that Mariah has a better voice and is a better songwriter and has a much more romantic way to express herself. In fact, I love a lot of her songs like: Love take time —> AW I love that song, Emotions, Heartbreaker,etc…..
    But the topic here, is who is the best seller, and that is Madonna.

  73. brutotucuerpo says:

    COWRIAH FATREY ,sales only in USA she’s nothing in Latin America market ..in Europe nobody like her…only in USA and why because they love the fast and boring food..MADONNA is the queen she’s the best,,get over it MADONNA haters…..

  74. brutotucuerpo says:

    and COWRIAH has more number ones in USA because she use PAYOLA,,that’s the fact,,jajajaj poor girl…

  75. REAL FACT !!! says:

    Ok, for you, here’s the fact:

    If you r asking to search the awards, you should ask also to search for information and biography of both singers ! Mariah received award of artist of the decade , because !! at the beginning of the decade, Madonna was doing sexual scandals and then in the rest of the decade she was NOT MAKING ALBUMS !!! she was making films, was pregnant, etc…. in those times, Mariah was making a CD and selling a lot, but in 1998, Madonna re appeared with ray of light and began selling more than Mariah again in her last CDs, but face it man –> in 2000, Mariah received Millennium award because all she did in 1990s when Madonna wasn’t making albums !!! and when she re appears at the last part of the decade, obviously how would she win that award, she couldn’t do what she didn’t do in a long part of a decade in 1 or 2 years ! DOUH !!! But face that when she re-appeared, she began to sell millions again and much more than Mariah again, and up to this date, each album of Madonna is selling more than each album of Mariah,even in 2005, you say that COADF sold 8 million, but actually, it sold 12 millions, and Emancipation of Mimi sold 11 million, so Madonna won for a million !! Hard Candy also sold more than E=MC2 and let’s not speak about the flops of glitter and Charmbracelet.
    See ? Mariah’s fans don’t wanna see the truth !! If Madonna would have worked in that decade, those awards would also be for her ! Madonna didn’t have that respect ?? of course she has it !! But she has received much more important awards, so good for mi Mariah (who I also love) but let’s face it guys, Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of all time, everybody know this.

  76. Ronald says:

    According to Mariah’s press release for her new album, Emancipation has sold 10M copies worldwide only. Confessions on a Dancefloor sold 9M worldwide. Madonna has sold more outside the USA and Mariah has sold more within her home country. There is no doubt that Hard Candy has outsold E=MC2 on a global sales. 4 Minutes is certified 2X platinum and Touch My Body just 1M. Let us not even talk about Madonna’s sales in UK and Japan, the second and third biggest music markets in the world.

  77. Ronald says:

    Combining single and album sales, hands down to Madonna. By the way, I’m pretty excited about Whitney’s new album called I LOOK TO YOU.

  78. arongaga says:

    first of all , I think Celine Dion’s sales are totally inflated considering the fact that she hasn’t had a smash hit album in the last decade. It’s the same for M Carey, her last international hit must be “my all” like 250 years ago. Mariah only sells good in US (Texas)
    Now why Madonna is the queen of pop: she is an icon for millions of people in the world (not only gays), my grandmother (90yo) knows Madonna but not the others. her Best of “immaculate” album sold at least 32 million (apparently the sales are underestimated, considering that it has officially sold 12 M in US,4 M in UK and 2 M in japan, so do the math) her last world tour is the biggest grossing tour ever by a solo artist, beating her own previous record. Plus never forget that Madonna is no longer played on US radio, because US have a serious problem with electro music, and also a problem with getting more than 30 yo, and also a problem with freedom of speech …I guess they will praise her when she’s dead.
    I think Mariah has 18 N° single in US which is great but not enough to make her a super star. she’s a local star. And last but not least: the biggest selling female is Greek singer Nana Mouskoury, beyond Madonna. but Madonna is Queen of pop who can dance and sing and entertain us for ever!!

  79. vince ciccone says:

    Sorry but it really does not matter what awards were given to Mariah as they mean sh**.For l am from Australia and we actually excepted Madonna a year before America did, when they we saying she would be a one hit wonder and god knows those experts were wrong.And being a dancer and dancing in American in 93, l could not believe that guys did not dance their even though they loved the show, they would always say in America guys don’t dance and of course now it has chanced but still Americans are lazy and these teenagers need to listen to Madonna who makes you want to dance and not Mariah’s music that you can just sing and makes you feel down, that’s why in other parts of the world like Italy people are always happy cause they know we are supposed to enjoy life and are always out dancing and eating well and don’t get takeout food and if Americans actually travelled more they would see what life is about and how to enjoy your music and be proud of what Madonna has done instead of always putting her down cause their not happy in their own lives

  80. Aaliyah says:

    We shouldn’t forget the the topic is TOP SELLING ARTIST

    last I heard HARD CANDY has sold more than a million over E=MC2. and if it’s true that Mariah’s territory is the USA then why the hell did her last singles (Bye bye, Stay in love, loving you longtime) flopped? Madonna however, her single 4 minutes has sold more than Touch my body, even though it never reached number 1 in the US Charts it did sell well worldwide.

    and lets talk about the concert, well girls, top selling MADONNA broke her own record tour, and what’s with Mariah? why didn’t she tour this year?

    and have ya all seen LA Toya Jackson’s blog on Mariah’s performance on the King of Pops wake? Mariah got like 90% negative reviews, saying her voice, her only instrument to sell, has declined. sorry but that’s gonna leave a nasty mark in the music market.

    and with Mariah’s latest release of “Obsessed” from her upcoming Memoir’s CD, the single is plunging down the charts, every blog don’t even care to react, the last I read was “Obsessed” is a remnant trash from E=mc2.

    Now with Madonna’s new single “Celebration” coming out this month, we’ll see who’s gonna sold more.

    but I’m putting my bet on the Pop Queen. For Mariah, sorry girlfriend you wouldn’t last the next decade. and please girl start acting your age and stop using artists to fill up your dwindling career.

  81. European says:

    I’m from Europe, and I have to say something about this subject!
    Madonna is absolutely Queen, and we don’t care about Mariah! You can’t hear Mariah on radio. Maybe just first week when she relase single, but that’s all. People don’t like her or her music.
    Instead, Madonna is really important in music, and you can hear her on radio, watch her on music channels…
    And that’s not because someone boycotts Mariah, it’s because we don’t like her music!
    And about markets! Europe is bigger market than USA! So, Mariah’s 18 No1 singles, doesn’t mean anything! And let’s not pretend that we don’t know the reason! Mariah gets more airplay in USA, and that’s whys she has 18 No1 singles. Not for bigger sale! example -> 4 Minutes vs Touch My Body! Look “Hung Up”…etc!
    Anyway, it’s better to be recognized in whole world, than just USA! And tours have shown, about popularity in USA! Madonna has more fans!
    That’s the fact!

  82. vince ciccone says:

    also l think we need to remember that most people just download music these days and even people that claim to be the biggest Madonna fans are still downloading instead of buying so as much as l love computers if they did not make it so easy for people to get music free Madonnas record sales could be up to a billion and Mariah would not even come close. It’s just a shame that people can’t spend $20 dollars on a CD as its very little money and then Madonnas sells would be back at the 20 million per album at the least and that’s why the concerts are the only way of knowing how popular an artist is and no one comes close to Madonna and she has not even been to Australia since 93 and if she did she would sell at least 5 shows per state and last time she was in Melbourne she did so many shows with up to 90,000 people per show.

  83. Musicforlife says:

    This will solved all your doubts. Its OFFICIAL.(PERIOD!!!!)
    billboard.com/#/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-madonna-vs-whitney-vs-mariah-1004005695.story

  84. Markus says:

    The reason why Mariah is said to sell more in the 90’s than Madonna is that she has released more albums (for any decade), remember how many? I think she released like 10 or more albums in the 1990’s, compared to Madonna who had like 4 I think. Madonna takes a year or two break from the music scene to have time to rest of course! no wonder Mariah had a mental breakdown, she’s the hardest working bitch in the 90’s.

    So for “think” who said what’s 10 years for Mariah is 40 years for MADONNA? Yeah right! like Duh! Well that 40 years for Madonna is like a millennium for Mariah. I would be more impressed is Mariah would’ve surpassed MADONNA on all aspects of sales WORLDWIDE not just bluffing on US Billboard. We should remember that RIAA still holds MADONNA better than Mariah on sales. and what’s stopping MADONNA? NONE!

    Mariah’s album Imperfections are now encountering “imperfections” cancelling every now and then the release date. well like who cares anyway? and for her latest single “Obese” well I heard it is doing poorly on the US Charts, Funny I thought the US Charts is dear to Mimi? She’s being kicked off by artists like Miley and the BEP.

    now back to sales. Madonna’s final offering for Warner is a greatest hits album, not much we can say cause it’s like a greatest hits CD, like it is expected to not sell as much as the Immaculate Col. I’m more geared what surprise the Queen of Music has in store for us when she starts recording for LIVE NATION. Rumors said MADONNA will re-dominate the POP Culture by going back to POP music and should we say MADGE is paying respect to the legacy of his King, Michael Jackson. They both had this HUGE legacy on POP. no other Hip hop acts has sold more than these two, not even Mariah Carey.

    i wonder if Madonna’s Greatest Hits album should again topple Mariah’s imperfections? it’s quite obvious Mariah’s losing grip on reality and fantasy as her career is like plunging.

  85. SUSAN MUENI says:

    Mariah of course. Over 200 million albums sold! And she writes 90% of her music unlike Ms Madonna. And she has her own inimitable style. And she has influenced almost all of today’s female artistes- do you honestly think Madonna has influenced any artistes? I mean, lets be for real, watch any singing competition and people will sing 7 MC songs BEFORE THEY SING BORING MADGE SONGS. Give me ten decent self- written Madonna songs and I’ll give you thirty Mariah ones. And the most amazing thing about MC is that she never rests- she releases an album then the next year, she’s already working on her next one and never suffers from writers block! Mariah Carey is a musical genius- accept it!

  86. Ray of Light says:

    Dear SUSAN,

    “Mariah of course.” Of course???? Do you work in music industry???? How do you know that?! You’ve read it in some newspaper???? Or Mariah’s fan blog?????? After you wrote it like that, we don’t need to read your article anymore!

    “Over 200 million albums sold!” They say same about Madonna. But in real life, you can’t measure album sales. It’s very hard especially in most of countries. It’s easier fos US, it measures in album certification (which btw. Madonna=63,5xPlatinum and Mariah 62xPlatinum). Another important thing is shipments if you know what it is???? If you do, I don’t have to explain it anymore!

    “And she writes 90% of her music unlike Ms Madonna.” Madonna does write her music, but not alone! And some of songs she wrote alone (like “Miles Away” which is great song, even better then most of Mariah’s)!

    “And she has her own inimitable style. And she has influenced almost all of today’s female artistes- do you honestly think Madonna has influenced any artistes? I mean, lets be for real, watch any singing competition and people will sing 7 MC songs BEFORE THEY SING BORING MADGES SONGS.” Maybe it’s inimitable because it sucks! Who listens Mariah (unless US, but in US she can’t sold so much albums as she did)???? Who goes to her concerts???? Do I have to mention Madonna’s tours (example Sticky & Sweet Tour – highest grossing tour by a solo artist and second highest grossing tour of all time, with 3.5 millions people) Believe me, beside regular people, she does influence among numerous music artists! And I would not say same about Mariah! And about that singing competition – those are people who have no idea about singing! Most of them! Have you seen any audition????? Most of girls think they could sing, so they choose Mariah because they heard that she can sing very well. And it’s true, she can! I’m not saying she can’t! Madonna has boring songs????? Have you ever listen to her???? Her music is very dance and pop, and you can dance and party! But it’s not same when it comes to Mariah! Her music is very boring, especially after 2000. She didn’t have any world hit after 2000. So did you ever thought it why???? It’s not because people don’t like Mariah! It’s because people don’t like her music!

    “And the most amazing thing about MC is that she never rests- she releases an album then the next year, she’s already working on her next one and never suffers from writers block!” Well, she has to if she wants to be in music industry! Otherwise would have been forgotten! And if she releases so much albums isn’t it sad that she sold less than Madonna????

    “Mariah Carey is a musical genius- accept it!” We won’t! But, thanks for your suggestion! We do not like lying to ourselves!

    It was my pleasure to explain you real situation!
    And, BTW. how old are you???? 12?

  87. Laurent says:

    I really think that MOST of you should research and make sure that what you find is accurate before posting false info here.

    Madonna’s 1st release was in 1983 and we are in 2009, so that’s 26 years of music from Madonna NOT 30 years. Released 18 albums (including soundtracks, greatest hits, live albums etc…) She has sold more than 280 million albums worldwide, 400 million records (singles included etc…)

    Mariah has been doing it for 19 years (7 years after Madonna) She released 17 albums (including soundtracks, greatest hits etc…) THAT’S 1 ALBUM LESS THEN MADONNA. IF MADONNA WAS RUSHING TO RELEASE A NEW CD LIKE MARIAH DID, THEN IMAGINE HOW MANY MORE ALBUMS SHE WOULD HAVE SOLD.
    Mariah sold more than 200 million albums worldwide (including singles etc…)

    Yes Mariah has surpassed the Beatles, Elvis, Madonna IN THE US with #1 singles.
    Madonna surpassed them all WORLDWIDE.

    We all know that Madonna does not have Mariah’s voice, but every new album released by Madonna is different them the previous ones, and I think that’s what a true artist is.

    Mariah’s albums sound like a continuation of the one before. Don’t get me wrong, I love her music, but it’s always the same, and that’s why in the US she is more successful. The rest of the world is just more open minded and grow with time.

    Both artists are fantastic in their own way.

    I am sure that all of you saying that Mariah writes her own music are so young that you don’t even know that MOST of Mariah’s “HITS” are REMAKES taken from other artists. Legally of course.

    Madonna does write/co-write 99% of her music and has done just a few covers unlike Mariah.

    Make no mistake there people. There is only 1 QUEEN OF POP AND IT IS MADONNA. Mariah may be a pop Princess like Britney, but the CROWN BELONGS TO, ALWAYS DID, AND PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL BE MADONNA’S.

    Like someone else said above, Nielsen scans did not count 7 of Madonna’s 1st releases, so right there is where it all should stop.

    LONG LIVE THE QUEEN

  88. Truth says:

    Proof that lead to Mariah’s chart manipulations are abundance.

    Mariah’s success in the Billboard could not be translated to her overall sales , worldwide. No doubt that she was the biggest selling in the 90s but since Glitter her sales almost inconsistent.

    If Mariah is the biggest selling female of all time, show me the money? How come her wealth doesn’t tally with her records sales. Oh yeah, she is well-know for dropping her singles to 0.49 cents per piece …

  89. Victor says:

    Madonna is definitely the top-selling female artist. Mariah Carey’s boring, all her music sounds the same.

    Madonna has more of a variety of tracks. Dance, ballads, hell, even some “rap” as you may call it.

    But for Mariah, nothing fresh, nothing new… just another album with highly exaggerated high notes that get, well, annoying after a while.

  90. Laura Greenshine says:

    What the fu**, Who fu** care about Madonna, Mariah, Celine, Whitney and Barbara,,They all old and not sell anymore,,,,we need the young and fresh one,,,
    and I think Lady Gaga and Miley had what it takes to be the next best selling female artist,,,,
    Go Gaga and Miley..!!!!

  91. blue says:

    Goodness gracious… the lambs in this thread are terribly young and are in dreamland with butterflies alongside their icon MARIAH who looks more like a horse!!! Sales wise, it is Madonna… And please do not compare the number of years the two have been making music if you cannot make the soundest comparison… consider demographics, population, technology in the 80’s and 90’s when these two stars came out… people in the 90’s have more access to cable tv, radio programs, music formats, et al… then equate that with POPULATION!!… do a simple arithmetic and analysis for all of you to understand why Pariah would sell that number of albums when she came out in the 90’s… 00’s is better footing for both since they are past their major eras… and Mariah still couldn’t come close… and I so agree, Mariah has a far better voice but goodness, only you lambs will pay to see her sing live!!!… have the two go together in separate concerts anywhere in the world (even the USA) and your Pariah will ABSOLUTELY eat dust… how does that make her the queen or the greatest?… I love these discussions… very poor of us all, right?… ha ha ha… mature, lambs!!!

  92. blue says:

    oh by the way, wanna make a bet who sells more with their current releases? Lambs, you tally the sales around the world, ok? America is not the world, please!

  93. jesso says:

    Jeez people… its official… Barbara Streisand #1 Madonna #2 and Mariah #3..LAY IT TO REST!

    1. yeah so Mariah has done so much and made so much in 10 years…have we considered that back when Madonna started times and economic spending was much different? Not to mention that accessibility to music was much diff. Hello if I had iTunes back in the 80s….Imagine if the economy was like it is now when Madonna started…she would have definitely created a MAJOR gap between her and Mariah.

    2. yeah yeah talent blah blah blah…people Madonna has learned the secret to this industry like only some artists have…you have got to sell yourself. give the people what they want but at the same time give them the unexpected. Mariah doesn’t do that. You can almost predict that it will be R&B, Power Ballads, and some sort of gospel solo somewhere on her album. Madonna…well all you r guaranteed is a ballad. She has touched every genre of music and has made it her own. Lets take a look:
    Pop- (like a virgin, most of her early albums)
    R&B/Hip hop- (erotica)
    Electronica/House- (bedtime stories)
    Electronica/Techno/Trance- (ray of light and music)
    Country- (music)
    Dance- (confessions)
    R&B- (hard candy)
    Classical- (Evita)

    The only area she has touched and not been very successful at is Rap/Hip hop…yeah yeah fans I know but lets face it it’s true… Basically what I’m saying is Mariah likes to play it safe and stay inside the box whereas Madonna likes to experiment and play outside the box. It’s like comparing Karl Lagerfeld to Ralph Lauren…

    3. Case and point.. Madonna is a SOLO artist. To have accomplished what she has accomplished, push the envelope, take risks(which has gained her negative reaction a lot), and continue to change the way we think of music and still do this at 50 years old??? That deserves a round of applause. Lets see if Mariah can still stay strong when she is 50 years old.

    4. also lets not forget that most of Mariah’s income is coming from the contract breaking deal that payed her millions.

    5. As for new artists…good luck because I think the day of ACTUAL music artists that write their own music and are about their craft are gone… the only luck you have is with Gwen Stefani. The days of the actual pop icon with longevity like Madonna, Mariah, and Whitney are gone. Gaga and Cyrus are only of the moment…and lets face it…they aren’t that talented. Gaga knows that secret that Madonna knows about selling yourself, but I don’t think she will be able to reinvent herself let alone come out with another compelling album. lets just say I think she blew her all in this first go round. As for Miley…are we seriously considering her an artist? She is Disney people….Disney! Remember Hillary Duff? yeah I thought you wouldn’t…she was at the same level as Miley several years ago.. enough said.

    6. And no I’m not swaying to either side or being a Mariah hater… I’m just stating facts. I happen to like both Madonna and Mariah. so don’t trip chocolate chip~

  94. rcooke says:

    Not sure where this 10 year head start for Madonna over Mariah argument comes from – First hit in the UK was 1990 for Mariah – For Madonna December 1984 – I make that 6 years!! Maybe 8 in America as Everybody, Burning Up etc were club hits 82/83. The facts indicate that Mariah has sold more Albums in the US and about on par globally as Madonna’s early Album sales are not exact (as no artists are due to tracking methods then). Internationally Madonna has the edge on Albums driven by a much stronger presence in Europe notably in Recent years since Mariah went more R&B with her sound. There is little doubt in music circles that Madonna has sold far more singles than any other female artist – helped simply by the volume of releases – some 65 songs in the UK – slightly less in US. Mariah benefits in the US from Airplay that is included in calculating chart placings for singles but in the UK for example Madonna has had 14 top ten hits since 2000, Mariah 6. But guys whilst I understand your loyalty to your chosen artist all the big guns, Madonna, Mariah, Celine, Whitney, Barbara are fantastically successful and Icons in their own right. Why not celebrate all of them and enjoy what they have given us rather than fight over who has sold more – lets face it they have all sold shed loads and have made fortunes so the odd million difference here and there is hardly a big deal. I’m sure their not bothered!!

  95. RIP Mariah says:

    Mariah’s title as the best selling female is hype and this coming from her fan website and her record company. Reality is..Madonna has 5 great years before Carey emerged in the music industry.

    And to make it sweet, Carey has 3 bigger flopped album than Madonna 1) Glitter 2) E=Mc2 3) Memoirs of An Old Diva.

  96. abdul Latif says:

    The biggest selling female artist in the planet earth now and forever is Whitney Houston. Why because she is sincerely sing without using computer like Madonna and Mariah Carey. She only produce 7 or 8 album within 25 years not like Madonna and Mariah Carey which have nearly 20 albums Madonna (30 years) and Mariah (20 years). Can you imagine if Whitney produce 1 album every year like Madonna and Mariah Carey just because she wants to be a [popular artist like Madonna and Mariah]. Of course, total album sales for Whitney may be 600++ million worldwide. No body can beat Whitney until now. Whitney
    1st album and 4th album already reach 33 million and 47 million album worldwide. She can reach to the highest point 33 and 47 million. I don’t think Mariah and Madonna can reach that point. If they try the can get crazy and physical disability.
    Now I give you the list of Whitney album
    Album 1 33 million worldwide 1984
    Album 2 25 million worldwide 1987
    Album 3 17 million worldwide 1990
    Album 4 47 million worldwide 1992
    Album 5 17 million worldwide 1995
    Album 6 9 million worldwide 1996
    Album 7 15 million worldwide 1998
    Album 8 19 million worldwide 2000
    Album 9 5 million worldwide 2002
    Album 10 Not yet in progress 2009
    2nd album 25 million and 3rd album 17 million.
    5th album 17 million and 6 album

  97. neptune18 says:

    oh…long arguments… Mariah is the best selling female artist, artist of the millennium, artist of the 90’s decade! Mariah has done many albums because of the great demand! do you think her company will just let her release albums? Hello! that explains everything ok!

  98. Andi says:

    Mariah is the third best selling female of all time.

    That is official.

    The only internationally recognized governing body of record sales is the IFPI.

    To date, the combined sales of albums and singles have Madonna way, way ahead.

    The only “source” to ever claim Mariah Carey is the World Music Awards which as we all know is a silly made up ceremony based on who will attend any given year. The only internationally recognized source for sales stats is the IFPI.

    Their latest sales stats at September 2007 are:

    The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI) just released their updated figures. The top 20 is noted below. Note that Madonna is the highest selling female artist ever and also the only artist in the top 5 who didn’t have a release prior to 1980. Also note that Mariah still hasn’t topped Nana Mouskouri! She claims to be the top selling female and she isn’t even number 2 yet! Also note that this doesn’t the 10.1million selling massive selling “Confessions on a Dance Floor” CD, 2million sales of I’m Going to Tell You a Secret, 2million of Confessions Tour, 9million sales of Hung Up, 6million of Sorry, 4million of Get Together and 1.5million of Jump.

    01. The Beatles 40+ 400,000,000 UK 60s (1962-1970) Rock/Pop Guinness/EMI

    02. Michael Jackson 14 350,000,000 US 70s-00s (1979-) Pop/R&B MJ Stats

    03. Elvis Presley 150+ 300,000,000 US 50s-70s (1956-1977) Country/Rock

    04. Madonna 16 275,000,000 US 80s-00s (1984-) Pop WBR [1]

    05. Nana Mouskouri 450 250,000,000 Greece 60s-00s (1959-) Pop [2][3]

    06. Cliff Richard 60+ 250,000,000 UK 50s-00s (1959-1969,1977-1979,1986-1999 ) Rock/Pop [4]

    07.The Rolling Stones 54 ~250,000,000 UK 60s-00s (1964-1981) Rock 60.5 million in the US [5]

    08. Mariah Carey 14 230,000,000 US 90s-00s (1990-) Pop/R&B

    Sadly Mariah Carey fans seem to quote silly industry awards and that ludicrous (and retracted) World Music Awards claim and ignore the solitary and only official source of data above.

    Mariah’s management were apparently fined in 2006 for claiming she was the Biggest Selling Female of All Time and all European Mimi adverts stating this claim were withdrawn.

    Poor Mariah fans just can’t handle that she isn’t first, nor second, but is third. Given that she hasn’t been big outside of the US since the 90s, its unlikely she’ll ever overtake Nana or Madonna, especially as Madonna’s sales are strong (Confessions in 2005 was number 1 in more countries than any other album in history and has sold 10.1million copies so far).

    Id expect we get a silly lot of responses from Mariah fans now quoting how many silly “Best R&B Video” and World Music Awards she has won, the facts remain, she is 3rd, and nothing will ever change that.

  99. Fan says:

    These are the facts:

    Madonna is the most successful female singer!

    Total sales:

    Madonna – 350 (200 Million Albums+ 150 Mio. Singles)
    Nana Mouskouri – 250
    Celine Dion – 250 (200 Million Albums and 50 million singles)
    Mariah Carey – 210 (160 million Albums and 50 million singles)
    Whitney Houston – 200 (140 million albums and 60 million singles)
    Cher – 190
    Tina Turner – 180

    Why is Mariah so successful? She is only famous in the USA. Of course, many people know Mariah in Europe or asia but Mariah isn’t as popular as Madonna!
    Madonna is also successful in the USA! The cause is the airplay charts don’t play Madonna songs. But the sales are still good for Madonna! 4 minutes was at number 3 in 2008. In the same year Mariah released “Touch my body” as the first single of her album E=MC2. Touch my body picked number 1 with 1 million of sales. 4 Minutes has sold over 2 Million but why wasn’t it at number 1? They didn’t play Madonna’s songs on the radio….
    Why is Madonna able to fill whole stadiums?
    She has more fans!
    Mariah’s concerts were mostly cancelled….
    She can’t fill stadiums!

    Mariah has got only her voice..
    Madonna has not the same voice as Mariah but she can sing! She can dance, she is able to perform and she entertains her fans!
    The silly Chopard Diamond award shares variable out these awards. MJ has got the price very late! They say: The Chopard Diamond award will only be shared out if the artist has sol over 100 million albums.
    But there are more stars who sold over 200 million albums.
    Celine has sold over, Rod steward too, Jacko too, but what about Pink Floyd? they didn’t win the price… Madonna has also sold over 200 million and she didn’t get it!

    That’s nothing….

    Count every album of Madonna and you get 200 million Albums!
    And add every album of Mariah together, you won’t get 200 million! Add singles and albums together… Madonna’s summary is the bigger one!
    No doubt!!

    go to the CHARTS topic

    Number ones: Mariah Madonna

    USA 18 12
    UK 2 13
    Germany 1 4
    Canada 7 20

    Look! ell me who is more successful in music business!

  100. Wins says:

    Ah.. all this debating is making me crazy.lol..

    You cannot based it all on album sales, tours, and record sales and singles cause they’re all fraud I’m telling you!!!!!!! So around the GLOBE DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY TRACK ALL THE ACTUAL RECORD SALES?? HUH?? THINK OF IT??? LOSERS!!! BE PRACTICAL!

    still got to vote for Mariah for my opinion and the opinion of World Music Awards , Billboard Awards, and I don’t know.., he he still Guinness World Book of records announced Madonna as the best selling female artist of all time.., but is Guinness really in the musical field of expertise to define Music??

    If BILLBOARD said it or World MUSIC Award said it ok, fine its reasonable… and note in just 10 years Mariah collected 160million albums they said and it nearly took 20 years for Madonna to achieve that.. So in math…
    160 divided 10 years is equivalent to 16million albums per year while in Madonna’s hand 160 million divided 20 years is equivalent to 8 million albums per year….

    And by the way Madonna maybe the best selling female DANCER of all time But Definitely MARIAH CAREY is the Best Selling Female SINGER of All Time…

    NOW THAT’S A FACT SINCE MADONNA CAN’T REALLY SING AND MARIAH CAN’T REALLY DANCE… HEHEHEHE….

    PEACE… NO OFFENSE… HEHEHEHE….

  101. Overtook says:

    But Madonna hasn’t sold 160 million albums…. she has sold 0ver 200….
    Total sales for Madonna: less than 350
    for Mariah: 210

    Madonnas career : 27 years, Mariah’s 19 years…

    350: 27= 12,96 average result for Madonna
    200: 19= 10,5 average result for Mariah…

    and if Madonna has only sold 300 million records.. you’ll get an average summary of 11,11 million a year…

    and if Mariah has sold 210 million you’ll get an average summary of 11,05… Madonna sells more a year than Mariah… that’s average!
    Every years has its ups and downs.. Mariah’s: Beginning of 2000…. Madonna’s down began in the early 90s.. (1993)..
    But all in all Madonna is more successful!
    Ask people from Africa… there are only a few who know Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston…but funny enough some know Madonna…
    (Even I love Whitney Houston and Mariah C.!)
    I can’t hear any Mariah songs on our radios.. but Madonna songs!
    I can’t find any songs of Mariah in the European charts… especially in Germany!
    Madonna is the most successful singer! No doubt!
    She can sing! She doesn’t have the best voice…. but she can sing! Look at YouTube live performances…

  102. ooof says:

    Look.The posted in Guinness World Records is about that Madonna is the most commercial, including tickets etc. that’s because most of the people are stupid like her and buy elementary stuff. Success means awards, achievement, MARIAH is then the best selling female artist ever (by selling albums,not concerts) with the best voice ever and huge influence over singing, unlike Madonna. Madonna may also have many hits outside USA but they are no good hits. Sorry but Madonna’s take a bow (her record setting song) topped the charts 7 weeks only, Mariah’s one sweet day -16,WBT-14.Don’t say that hang up is the “huge” hit, because its sh**, that people hear only few times, no longer!

  103. Looker says:

    Yes maybe.
    Mariah has got the best voice. But the official albums sales are lower then Madonnas! That’s the truth!
    Hung Up is the most successful hit of Madonna’s career it topped the charts in 45 countries. Can you say one hit of Mariah that topped the charts in more than 20 countries or.. 10? No her most successful wasn’t One sweet day or WBT it was Without You and Hero! WBT and One sweet day, they were only successful in th USA. Look at Europe, the 2nd most important music market. Madonna has more Hits outside the USA, and also in the USA Madonnas has 37 Top Ten hits, more than Mariah! Hung Up and 4 minutes would have topped the charts in Billboard if only Madonna hadn’t had the Boycott of George Bush!
    The awards… the awards are lent from Billboard… and Mariah is very popular in the USA.. so the price went to Mariah.. not to Madonna! But look at worldwide awards.. Madonna wins them!

    Madonna is the most successful female singer!

  104. Whos Bad says:

    Mariah #1s in the US are the biggest laughing stock in the history of music industry.

    I mean come on, many of her hits came from the 90s era when strong airplay 2:1 compared to her sales. Plus, Mariah has 4 flopped albums to thank for. :(

  105. thee hee says:

    Mariah———–> J A N E T

  106. Truth says:

    Mariah’s 5-octave voice, 18th #1s and the best selling female title are just a marketing tool not more nothing less.

    Even Don’t Cry For Me Argentina carries much ‘credibility’ than Mariah’s We Belong Together in the worldwide scale.

  107. reality check says:

    How Lambs could claim Mariah is the highest selling female while everyone knows she has managed to produce only 1 hit album worldwide for the last 10 years + 4 flopped albums (G)litter, Charmsh**celet, K=Fc2 and Memoirs of An Old Angel?

    Absurd…

  108. Enough is Enough says:

    Lambs could spin as much as they want but without a doubt the fact Madonna is the Queen of Pop.

    Mariah’s credits are just a mere marketing purpose just like her octave voice in the 90s to sell more album hoping music lovers would believe it but majority just had a casual laugh about it.

    She is a fluke.

  109. Robin21 says:

    I live in Europe and she is NOTHING here! :(

  110. Chase says:

    Mooriah Scarey is a product of her own PR people. Sony’s deep pockets bought most of her #1’s in the 90’s, many times discounting her CD singles to .99 and strong arming radio stations to play her songs. I get SO sick of her hype machine, she must pay them a BUNDLE!! Sorry, Madonna is BIGGER than MooMoo will EVER be. MooMoo has ZERO respect or credibility in the industry. She’s on her 3rd record co. for Christ’s sake!!! And the way her sales are these days she may be moving on to her 4th soon.
    If you wanna go by averages, IMHO, Whitney far outsells either of them. She has a FRACTION of the music MooMoo and Madge have and yet if you look at the RIAA stats she is BARELY behind MooMoo (who is THIRD behind Barbra Streisand and Madge). If Whitney had capitalized on her ‘Whitney’ and ‘The Bodyguard’ days and had not taken time-off for the past 7 years she would surely be ahead of MooMoo. If she had put out a CD every year like that desperate slut MooMoo she would be #1 of all time.

  111. george a says:

    To be honest I think the Guinness book of world records is wrong cos every TV program even at the u.s presidents ceremony thing, they all clearly state Mariah is the most successful recording artist, by the way I live in England and she may not have been as successful over here but many people have emotional attachments to her songs wheres as Madonna is made fun of in this country, I watched this comedy show the other day and it showed Madonna come on a stage on a O.A.P scooter and sing horribly down a microphone. and on talent search shows like x factor (UK) and American Idol you see people trying so sing Mariah songs all the time but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone try and sing a Madonna song. by the way I like them both but as far as talent and reaching into peoples hearts Mariah beats Madonna ten times over. in my opinion Mariah is like Michael Jackson in some ways (OBVIOUSLY NOT DANCING) but writing songs that help people through rough times and songs that people can really relate to.
    MARIAH ALL THE WAY

  112. Matt says:

    Madonna is pop queen, Mariah is only big in America!

    Beat goes on! with your head lost in the stars you will never go far!

  113. patrick says:

    Mariah is the best-selling female recording artist in history.Madonna can’t beat Mariah cause she won only one World Music Award in her entirely career,Mariah won more than 15 World Music Awards since her debut till today.

  114. patrick says:

    Mariah is much better than Madonna and has selling more discs than her.Since 1996 till 2004,Mariah won all the Best-Selling awards and Honors .Madonna has won only 1 World Music Award in her entirely career.

  115. brian says:

    Mariah is big not only in America,but in the whole World.Madonna is a little more famous than Mariah only because she’s one of most intriguing people of the world with her scandals and oldness.But Mariah is known in the world above all for her talent and her numerous hits.

  116. Markus says:

    Madonna’s scandals is nothing compared to Mariah’s nervous breakdown and that pathetic TRL stint! Lol! Madonna’s scandals made jaw dropping gold-headlines whereas for Mariah it was made a loser’s shameful act out of a gospel diva. Lol!

    Has this thread been going strong? It is still Madonna, lambs put a lid on it. That stays, Madonna’s sales records will never be surpassed by your drunk diva. Madonna has sold more even in concerts.

    Madonna flop albums
    American Life

    Mariah Flop albums
    Glitter
    Charmed bracelet
    E=MC2
    Memoirs of an imperfect angel (which by the way is her most tanked album to date, it has not reached 1 million yet worldwide)

    tsk tsk tsk

  117. SMallwer says:

    no..
    The most important chart industry is NOT Billboard.. it’s the united chart. Global charts are the most important.
    Madonna has 13 Number ones there!
    Madonna is more famous,
    ALL OVER The WORLD
    Mariah is big in America and Asia look at Europe…
    Nobody is interested in Mariah Carey!
    Mariah has 2 number 1 in the UK
    1 number 1 in Germany
    none number 1 in France
    Madonna has 13 Number 1 in UK
    4 number 1 in Germany and 3 Number 1 in France
    and even 12 Number 1 in America with 37 Top Ten Hits are more useful than 18 Number 1 and just 27 Top Ten Hits..
    REALIZE IT: Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of all time!
    NOT MARIAH
    Proof:
    All Madonnas Studio, Compilations and Soundtrack albums:

    Madonna
    ’bout 9 -10

    Like a virgin
    21

    True Blue
    23-25

    You can dance
    5

    Like a prayer
    11-14 Million

    The immaculate collection
    29

    I’m breathless
    6

    Erotica
    5

    something to remember
    9

    Bed time stories
    8

    Evita
    6-11

    Ray of light
    17-20 million

    GHV2
    7,7

    Music
    11-14

    American life
    4-5

    Confessions on the Dancefloor
    12

    Hard candy
    almost 4

    Celebration
    1,5 until now

    …. around 200 Million Albums!!

    And now beat it with all of Mariah albums…

    And don’t forget singles of Madonna and compare it to Mariah’s….

    Understand it, please, Madonna is the best selling female artist, but not the most talented..

  118. SMallwer says:

    Madonna has sold more than 200 million albums worldwide and is listed as the best-selling female rock artist of the 20th century.[23][24][25] She is ranked as the second-best-selling female artist, behind only Barbra Streisand, with 64 million certified albums in the United States.[26] In the United Kingdom, she has become the most successful female artist, with 11 number-one albums, tying her with Elvis Presley as a solo act with most number-one albums.[27]

  119. SMallwer says:

    Madonna’s album sales: 200
    Celine’s : almost 200
    Mariah : 160
    Whitney 140

  120. Nikky M says:

    Oh my goodness, I’m Horrified that their are so many retarded people out there that can even compare Mariah Carey to Madonna. Madonna is a living legend.Her music is timeless.who cares if she can’t howl & scream like Mariah can when she sings, I hate Mariah Carey’s voice. On The World stage Madonna outsells Mariah at least 100 times over. I’m from New Zealand & Nobody likes Mariah Carey here except for old goats who listen 2 music like Michael Bolton & Celine Dion. Madonna is edgy funky & timeless. Lets face it Mariah is tacky & Horrible & is only big in backward USA. also Madonna is a strong woman that has opinions about things of substance. Mariah Carey is just A really bad Jessica Rabbit Lookalike.
    Like Missy Elliot says in 1 of her songs MADONNA IS THE QUEEN.

  121. Facts says:

    Mariah #1 song in major markets in Europe:-

    Songs:
    Germany: Without You (1994..never since)
    UK: Against all odds (2000..never since)
    France: never had a #1 single
    Italy: never had a #1 single
    Spain: never had a #1 single

    Album:
    Germany: Daydream (last 1995..never again)
    UK: Daydream (1995)
    France: Rainbow (1999)
    Italy: never had a #1 album
    Spain: never had a #1 album

    How come Mariah is the best selling. Tsk tsk..Lambs..stop spreading garbage.

  122. Something to Laugh says:

    There is no question Madonna is the best selling female of all time.

    Mariah, try UK…her sales are nothing but less than Kylie Minogue!

    Ha Ha Ha !

  123. Ty Pauaina says:

    Mariah never had #1 single in France and many European countries? Ghee…what kind of ‘diva’ that is.

    For me she is just a studio singer..nothing more nothing less. Never a diva for any standards.

  124. Ty Pauaina says:

    Since when World Music Awards reflecting sales? Normally, record companies need to apply and submit the artist name for that recognition.

    Flake arguments :(

  125. Jessy says:

    Madonna is the best. Done

  126. JamesUK says:

    Madonna..CLEARLY the winner !

  127. dreamqueen'99 says:

    @125
    I disagree, “Jessy”. Is that even a real name?

    Mariah Carey was cohabitating with A-Rod. I mean, let’s be real. Advantage: Carey.

    Carey had to face the struggle. Madonna did not. Game: Carey.

    Madonna didn’t sing “I Don’t Want A Lot for Christmas.” Set: Carey

    Carey looks closer to her age than Madonna. How can you be 52 without one wrinkle? Match: Carey

  128. Infertile says:

    Mariah is a DONE DEAL..worldwide : Game over (no-fan base) ! LOL

  129. Mimispice says:

    who cares about Spain, Germany, France, etc… those markets are relatively small… even the combined market size of the entire Europe would be smaller than US alone… the largest market in Europe is UK… w/c is even smaller than that of Japan… Mariah owns US and Japan, the two largest markets… all other small European markets are for Madonna… and Asia is without a doubt to Mariah…

  130. Mimispice says:

    biggest selling tour?… I wonder if Madonna can pull off a show all by herself.. she may have sold out tours… but take away the smoke, the glass and the machines that allow her to lip sync and the backup dancers that make her look good.. and what is left is a talentless performer who can’t carry a show alone…

  131. Alexis says:

    Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of all time.
    Okay, Madonna has more years of career than Mariah, BUT !!!! let’s remember that Madonna went out of the artistic media for a while, because she was making Evita film, she was pregnant,etc…. so you have to take those years less in those times, Mariah was selling a lot of CDs, those were the biggest moments of Mariah, but when Madonna reappeared on 1998, began to sell more CDs than Mariah Carey, and then Mariah went down.
    You have made some mistakes with some sales, confessions on a dance floor did not sell 8 million, now it has sold over 12 millions so far.
    And well, let’s face it guys, Madonna is a much higher seller, even in her albums of the 80s, Mariah’s 90 CDs sold less than some of them, up to this date is still like that.
    But Mariah is a better vocalist !!! no doubt of that !!! I would call Mariah the queen of r&b.

    Even though Mariah is less successful, is still so successful , and is admirable as a person :D

    But speaking about sales, Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of the world.

    But, as another said, the important is that they are great, and they give us good music.

    So, I would call Mariah the QUEEN OF R&B

    AS WELL AS MADONNA IS THE QUEEN OF POP

  132. Alexis says:

    PD: Nicolas: Thank you very much for being objective and even though you are a huge Mariah’s fan , thanks a lot for recognizing the truth: Madonna is a better seller than Mariah in CD’s and obviously much more in tours, see Mariah’s fans ? He is an objective person and realistic, and you should too, and let me tell you, seeing a Mariah’s fan speaking with the truth, that has more value than many other words that others may say.

    Q: How do you want Nicholas to support Mariah? Arguing for her! and speaking with lies as most of Mariah’s fans do ??? Nope, he he’s realistic. The best way to support her, is to buy her albums, believe in her, love her, being thankful of the music she brings to him, enjoy her !!! But you have to face it Q -> Madonna is a best seller ! That’s the topic, not the voice or the talent.

    But as I said it yesterday. For me Mariah is the queen of R&B

    And now, I’m objective too: Even though I’m a Madonna’s fan, I know she is the best selling female artist of all time in the world (I don’t say it because I’m a fan, I’m saying that because is true, if that wouldn’t be true, I would recognized it for sure) BUT !!!!! I know that she is not the most talented, I know completely that Mariah has a better voice and is a better songwriter and has a much more romantic way to express herself. In fact, I love a lot of her songs like: Love take time —> AW I love that song, Emotions, Heartbreaker,etc…..
    But the topic here, is who is the best seller, and that is Madonna.

  133. Real fact, stop lying lambs says:

    Mariah’s millennium award was irrelevant for millions of people and not known for many others all around the world, even in US, from where I am.
    Mariah with that award is still not respected and considered the biggest selling ? hahaha what a shame.
    Let me remind ya that Guinness book is one of the most respected statistics of amazing records of the world. Madonna doesn’t need millennium award to be considered as the most successful, just listening her name says it all. Guinness book has said she is the biggest selling.
    Also according to RIAA, IFPI, WARNER BROS INC. Madonna is the top selling recording female singer of all time. And most part of the world knows that and support it, and without an award ! :D
    Thing that Mariah could never achieve, what a shame for Mariah :(
    And someone up there said that Madonna fans don’t take care about sales, and that’s true, they enjoy much more Madonna and feel more comfortable and better because we know perfectly that Madonna is the top selling and beats Mariah in all senses, while Mariah fans are so frustrated and they can’t enjoy their favorite artist like they want

  134. I've something to say says:

    Madonna has a bigger diversity of fans, she has fans of all ages, teenagers (like me, I’m 15), young adults, older people, etc…. gays, straight, lesbians, bisexuals, all kind of people, because real artist have audience of everything.
    I know that Madonna’s the most successful female artist of all time and most successful and famous and that’s fine, but I also like Mariah.
    But lambs must face the reality.

  135. A girl like me says:

    Let me say for the ones who said that lambs are immature, most of Mariah lambs are people from 26 to 40 years old.
    ICONERS of Madonna are of all ages, but many of them are younger than the lambs.

  136. Alexis says:

    Oh come one fan of Britney, fan of Lady Gaga and fan of Miley Cyrus, don’t even mention those girls here, because we are taking about real legends that will be remembered in history forever like MADONNA, CELINE DION, Mariah Carey (well Mariah I’m not really sure, but at least more than Lady Gaga and Miley)not about little stars that will disappear in a while like Lady Crapga, Miley Sh**rus, Sh**ney Spears (no matter what you say but Madonna in the present is still beating Britney Spears in success, sales, fame, Also she has had a most successful career in her first ten years and in the future will obviously will be more successful than that little girl who can’t control her life, no matter what Britney stans say, they are just liars)

  137. Alexis says:

    (When I’m talking about who has been more successful in her first ten years of career is Madonna, check it out fan of Britney, well you know it but you lie because you can’t accept it and you r frustrated, in the present also Madonna beats Britney in success, sales, fame, etc…. and in the future will stay as that.
    PD: Sorry for my English, but is not my language and I really write 2 fast, but that does not have anything to do with what I said, that by the way is pure truth, if someone don’t believe me just check it out to prove it. But well, I don’t need to prove anything, because that’s obvious or at least something that major part of the world knows.
    And also Madonna beats Mariah in all senses as well.

  138. arongaga says:

    Mariah is a payola fraud !! why is it that she has like 18 n°1 songs in USA but cannot confirm this fake success when it comes to touring ! because Payola creates a fake and artificial popularity! why is it that none of her songs reach the top 100 in South America, Canada, Australia, Europe and Japan ? because Payola doesn’t exist in the rest of the world ….If she would be that legendary people would want to see her on stage and her songs would be big HITS because when a song is great it reaches the top (like : poker face or I gotta feeling)… And she’s not even popular in USA : K=FC2 and memoirs of a flopped artist are TOTAL flops ! Madonna is an icon she don’t even have to sell records. FAKEriah is a former wannabe turned has been. FAKEriah is over.period.

  139. Ryan says:

    It is a total mistake saying that Madonna is a flop in United States, that is not true. That’s something that the haters say and what would someone expect from a hater ?? Lies, insults, etc…..
    Being objective and analyzing the achievements and the professional years of all female singers, Madonna is the top selling, most successful, famous and important female artist in history.
    She is more successful than Britney, Mariah, Christina, Celine, Lady Gaga, Shakira, etc….. That doesn’t mean she is the best (because obviously she isn’t) but we have to be objective. Even though we love other female singers like Britney, Mariah, etc…. we have to face that the one who has more fans and is a the top is Madonna.

  140. Ryan says:

    PD: I don’t know if US would be or not the most important market, but even though it would, what is most important is being successful globally and not only in one country (even though it is a huge market) because if someone is an icon in all the world, that beats a huge single market, even the US.

  141. Markus says:

    MADONNA’S first concerts back in the 80’s were not that gimmick-filled with props and smoke, yet they sold out. I remember the Who’s that girl tour, the only thing that Madonna wore the whole time was the sexy leotard then combining them with at most five costume changes, unlike Mariah who did like several costume changes in her last tour (yet it flopped in most countries). so why the hell are some lame lambs on stage props? Madonna just by walking on stage without props the crowd would still go crazy, whereas Mariah walking on stage drunk she would only have “ok” there’s Mimi. next. next. next

  142. Markus says:

    I don’t think there would ever be a female artist who can do the MADONNA effect. Madonna stayed relevant yet unafraid to experiment. She has become an Icon not only in music but also iconic in influencing people’s lives making us strong. she said ” keep your eye on the prize, but hold your banners up”.

    before Katy Perry was even famous, Madonna had already mentioned her name on radio,

    before Antonio Banderas even became famous, Madonna already mentioned his name

    Madonna talks about KD Lang..” I saw Elvis, and he’s beautiful”

  143. The Power of Pop says:

    Ask how many Number One Hits Mariah has in Europe/worldwide compared to Madonna?

    Ask how much tickets Madonna sold for her tour vs Mimi?

    Ask how much Madonna sold outside US?

    Ask how many Grammys Madonna won so far?

    Ask who is the Queen of Pop?

    Ask The Guinness World records who has albums top #1 in 45 countries?

    *(All of this bickering and Billboard Number Ones can’t squash the fact Madonna is worldwide compared what Mariah achieve in just the US )

    Lambs, STFU !

  144. Alexis says:

    Markus and The power of pop:

    You are right, Madonna is the female artist with more stardom in the world and that’s why she is the highest selling female artist of all time, most famous, most successful and most important.
    Don’t worry about crazy lambs, they just know that the real fact is that Madonna beats her idol in all senses, I’ve been making analysis of both career and even though they have difference of 7 years, there are lots of proves that Madonna would still beating Mariah even though they’d have the same years of career.
    Lambs know it, but they cannot face it, that hurts them, so they instead of defending Mariah with facts, they say bull sh**s, are aggressive and insult Madonna because they’re frustrated.
    That is fact, so let’s laugh about them

  145. Mirka says:

    Mariah’s award was irrelevant, the millennium I mean, with that award she is still irrelevant in music business LOL.
    Madonna in the other hand, even though she didn’t receive that award is still recognized by major part of the world as the best selling and major part of the world prefer her more than any other female artist on earth, that is truth, it’s too really easy to prove.
    And is obvious.
    The same as Britney fans, poor comical losers hahaha they are so funny, but obviously they also know that Britney is beaten hard by Madonna in this decade, in the careers, etc… Britney won’t never be a legend and not even 10 years more of career.

    Moreover, Mariah fans pretend they are straight and actually are more fa**ots than Boy George and George Michael together hahaha, maybe the same as Britney stans

  146. clandestine says:

    stop that non-sense arguments. MADONNA still the QUEEN OF POP nobody can beat her MARIAH still a wannabe DIVA ok LONG LIVE THE QUEEN

  147. Zac says:

    Ok I am a huge Mariah Carey fan and I respect Madonna however Mariah Carey has sold more albums than Madonna has. Mariah has sold approximately 265 million albums and singles worldwide and Madonna has sold 235 million and I know this cause I looked it up and calculated it. Plus Mariah has such an angelic voice that sends me through the heavens. Madonna may have sold more concert tours but Mariah has sold more albums which proves that she is the most selling female artist of all time.:)

  148. MOFF says:

    Zac, you’re wrong!

    I think you’ve calculated such wrong numbers!
    Mariah Carey has sold about 160-170 million albums and 50 million singles!
    Madonna has sold more than 200 million albums and more than 100 million singles!
    LOOK IT UP!
    And there are 2 female musicians having sold more than CAREY: Celine Dion and Nana Mouskouri!
    The biggest selling female artist is Madonna, not Mariah Carey!
    More hits, sells more, is more famous!
    LOOK IT UP!
    Add every album of Madonna together
    Add every album of Carey together, who has the higher number?

  149. this is real says:

    According to IFPI, GUINNESS BOOK, FORBES, ETC…. Madonna have sold more than 380 million albums worldwide and 120 million singles.
    Mariah has only 170 million albums sold.
    Celine Dion have sold more than 230 million albums.
    ZAC YOU ARE REALLY WRONG LOL.
    Madonna sold more tickets and Madonna sold more albums than your Mariah, face it lamb.
    Celine Dion also beats Mariah Carey

  150. Zac says:

    Ok both of you are wrong cause Mariah Carey has sold more than 265 million albums worldwide. And album sales include album and singles sales. And Yes Madonna has sold more Albums but Mariah has sold more singles and if you add her album and single sales together Mariah wins. Madonna loses. Sorry :)

  151. mike says:

    here is a small point, but it counts none the less.
    Madonna’s songs are all hers or as far as I know. how many songs are on Mariah albums that are someone elses that she remade. although she recorded them, she didn’t write them………that’s gotta count for something huh?

  152. MOFF says:

    WHAT Are you talking about???
    Album sales include single sales???
    Who said that sh**?
    Madonna has sold more albums and singles!
    200m albums and 120m singles!!
    That’s more than Mariah!!!
    REALIZE IT!!
    Mariah hasn’t sold more than Celine and Madonna!!
    Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of all time!
    How do you know Mariah has sold 265m albums? tell me!

  153. realiti chic says:

    Mariah Carey struggled even to fill up a 3000 town-hall sized arena with her latest tour Angel’s Advocate Tour.

    Now that’s what I call- MEMOIRS OF A PERFECT BOMB!!!! :)

  154. not drunk like Mariah says:

    SORRY, MARIAH HAS 4 FLOPPED ALBUMS …..NO WAY SHE IS THE BEST SELLING FEMALE…

  155. MOFF says:

    Yes you are right..
    she can’t fill halls (stadiums)
    she has more flop albums than Madonna.
    She hasn’t sold more records than Madonna!

  156. Zac says:

    ok MOFF You’re full of sh** because even though Mariah has done some covers she has written all of her number one hits and co produced all of them as well and Madonna hasn’t done sh** for writing so true. Mariah’s a lot better singer and album seller. In your face.

  157. MOFF says:

    Madonna has written A LOT of her songs!
    Not all, but many!
    I realize that Mariah is the more talented singer, but not the better seller!
    Count her album sales!!! COUNT THEM!!!!!! Who has sold more?? ——->>>>> MADONNA!
    I don’t wanna bully you, but you can’t understand that!
    Mariah is NOT as popular as Madonna!
    Mariah only have 2 or 3 WORLD HITS
    Madonna HAS innumerable!

  158. Zac says:

    ok I’ll calculate it again MOFF. I know you are a Madonna fan but do you like Mariah at all?

  159. MOFF says:

    I was a Mariah fan..
    She had good music in the early 90s.. but after 2000…
    MMHH.. Why did Mariah have such a big success in the early 90s? Because Mariah had beautiful albums! But now? SH**
    I accept: Mariah has a wonderful voice, she has powerful voice, she is a fabulous musician.
    But Mariah hasn’t sold more.
    Zac, I don’t wanna fight with you. I like Mariah, too. But not songs as “we belong together” or Touch my body, to bye bye baby.
    I love songs by Mariah like: Without you (covered), or hero, or vision of love, against all odds (covered, too)

    But calculate Madonna albums and single sales: You’ll get more than Mariah!
    Madonna 200m albums,
    Mariah about 160m albums

  160. phil says:

    The greatness of an artist doesn’t measure only on his album’s sales,but also on his talent,artistry and accomplishments.on these points,Mariah is much better than Madonna.Mariah have everything who make an artist greater:a incredible talent, an amazing and unique voice,much many hits, several millions albums sold worldwide,a full of awards and honorific distinctions,a nice figure, popularity and fame worldwide.Have you ever listening Emotions,If it’s Over,Vision of Love,Fantasy or All I want for Christmas is you ? They prove between many other things that Mariah is much better than Madonna .

  161. MOFF says:

    yes I agree.
    Mariah has more talent.
    But: Madonna has sold more records
    Madonna is more popular
    She has more WORLDWIDE Hits
    Mariah’s Hits cannot rival Madonnas Hits
    Like A virgin, papa don’t preach, like a prayer, vogue, music, hung up, 4 minutes,…. they are ALL more successful WORLDWIDE (I mean worldwide, USA is not the WHOLE world) successful than Mariah Carey’s Hits.
    I like Mariah, but I have to say she isn’t as successful as Madonna!!! TRUE!

  162. For ZAC says:

    Hahahaha what ZAC is saying is bull s***t
    Mariah never sold 260 million, she sold 180 million dumb ass !!! According to WMA, IFPI, and even in the back cover of her DVD Adventures of Mimi says that,
    According to IFPI, WARNER, GUINNESS BOOK, FORBES, ETC….. MADONNA HAVE SOLD MORE THAN 380 MILLIONS.
    AND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE SINGLES IS FALSE, BUT ANYWAY MADONNA SOLD, SELLS AND WILL KEEP ON SELLING MORE ALBUMS AND SINGLES THAN YOUR MARIAH CAREY.

    I’M REALLY SORRY BUT YOU JUST PROVED YOURSELF AN IDIOT AND A TYPICAL FRUSTRATED MARIAH CAREY FAN WHO BU THE WAY HAD TO SAY LIES AGAIN :d

    MARIAH LOOSES , SORRY :D

  163. Zac says:

    Ah that’s so sweet of you naming your blog name after me “FOR ZAC” but I love Mariah Carey and it’s just my opinion that Mariah has sold more. And MOFF I now have new respect for you. in a good way.

  164. Alexis says:

    Zac:

    I see that you wrote that Mariah sold more as an opinion, all right you’ve accepted that.
    Just let me remind you that sells or how much success and artist has is not an opinion, that is a fact.
    Madonna is more successful and better seller than Mariah and any other female artist on earth, that is just a simple fact. But if I may, I would like to share my opinion with you.

    Both are different singers with different ideas and with totally different intentions for their fans.
    Madonna is a great performer, and Mariah has an amazing voice.
    I think that this battle should end because the most important thing is to enjoy the artists who we like and stop fighting because it makes no sense.

    So, I think that would be better isn’t it :D ?

    Take care

  165. Tim says:

    Mariah Carey is the greatest female singer of all time and the biggest selling female recording artist in history,no one can’t beat Mariah.

  166. Heather says:

    Mariah Carey is the incredible vocalist, singer, songwriter and she’s so beautiful and sexy. She’s very great, no one can’t beat her. Mariah forever and ever.

  167. Heather says:

    Mariah Carey beat Madonna and Celine,they both can’t sing like Mariah. Have you ever listening Emotions,We belong together,Vision of love, Fly like a bird,Against all odds,Fantasy or Dreamlover? Do you think Celine can sing these songs,ever? No she can’t.Mariah is the greatest and biggest female singer and vocalist of all time,no question about it.

  168. Rick says:

    Yeah! Mariah is so Better than Celine and Madonna, only Whitney can sing like Mariah.

  169. Robert says:

    Mariah is fabulous,her voice is very incredible and she can sing everything in music,she’s really the best.

  170. MOFF says:

    Wow.. very grandiose statements.. respect, respect. I can’t do it better. Mariah has one of the best pop voice the world has ever had. Also Whitney and Celine are very wonderful singers – and sellers!
    But
    can you prove it? Yes you can! But there is only one problem: If you try to prove it (check and calculate sales) you WON’T get as much as Madonna !!!
    Sorry guys..
    Madonna is the biggest selling female Artist of all time
    the biggest selling of all time the most successful one of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    CHECK IT OUT and don’t bother us with wrong and untrue statements.
    Madonna doesn’t have the same voice like Mariah or Whitney but she sells much better!!!

    Pleas PLEASE don’t say Mariah is the greatest SELLING artist on earth, it’s Madonna please realize it!!
    ITS MADONNA!!!
    CALCULATE HER SALES; EVERYTHING –
    Mariah hasn’t sold more than Madonna!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    CHECK IT OUT!! Calculate and calculate again if you can’t understand it!!!!!!
    Ready for calculating – start!

    IT’S Madonna!

  171. howard says:

    I agree with you,so Mariah is the second best selling female artist of all times,just behind Madonna.The 6 best selling female artists of all times are:Madonna ( More than 300 millions),Mariah Carey (more than 280 millions),Celine dion( 265 millions),Whitney Houston (200 million) and Nana Mouskouri (180 million).Mariah is the best female vocalist of all times,Madonna is the best female singer of all times.the sales of Mariah’s albums are:
    Mariah Carey-17 million
    Emotions -13 millions
    MTV unplugged Ep -11 million
    Music Box -32 million
    Merry Christmas -16 million
    Daydream-25 million
    Butterfly-17 million
    #’s -19 million
    rainbow -12 million
    Valentines-0,4 million
    Greatest hits -5 million
    Glitter -4 million
    Charmbracelet-4,5 million
    the remixes -0,9 million
    The Emancipation of Mimi -15 million
    e=mc 2 -6 million
    ballads -0’5 millions
    memoirs of an imperfect angel -0’5 million
    Don’t forget that Mariah is the best selling singles of the world (more than 65 million units worldwide).For me and many others,she’s the greatest female artist of all times.

  172. MOFF says:

    Mhh I think some sales are uncountable.
    These are: Music Box (about 25-30 mill.)
    Daydream (at least 20 mill- to 25 mill.)
    But I have to that The Emancipation of Mimi hasn’t sold 15 million.
    TEOM has sold approx. 10 mill.

    And Mariah is not the second biggest selling female artist.
    Madonna first, over 300 (over 200 million albums and more than 100 million singles)

    Nana Mouskouri second (250 million total record sales)
    Then: Celine Dion (200 million albums almost like Madonna, but Madonna has more and Celine has sold about 50 million singles, so you’ll get: 200+50= 250 million records.)

    AND THEN Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey
    Album sales: 170 million (sources are from 150 to 180)
    And singles over 50 million
    So 170 + 50 = ? IT’S 220 million but definitely over 200 million by total record sales.

    1. Madonna
    2. Nana Mouskouri
    3. Celine Dion
    4. Mariah Carey
    5. Cher
    7. Whitney Houston
    8. Tina Turner

    This is the top 10 but after that… maybe follows Mirielle Mathieu, Britney Spears (150m records) and Donna Summer

  173. Timothy says:

    No, Mariah Carey is the biggest female singer of all time and biggest vocalist of all time.Madonna is the biggest scandalous female singer of all time.

  174. Ali says:

    Why Madonna never win the Chopard diamond award? Mariah is the first female singer win this honor that prove than Mariah sale more albums than Madonna.
    America is the most important music market than whole Europe Mariah rules in Asia too. Mariah beat Madonna.

  175. Mars says:

    For Ali:

    Madonna doesn’t need the Chopard diamond award to prove who she really is.

    And come on, the millennium and diamond awards of Mariah Carey were so irrelevant for millions of people and not known for another ones all around the world.
    Those awards were not enough for Mariah to be considered as the highest selling female by the world ? LOL what a shame !!
    Madonna didn’t need those awards and still she is considered by the major part of the world as the highest selling female artist of all time.
    Is more than obvious that Madonna is not only the queen of pop, but also the most successful , biggest selling female and most famous female artist on earth.
    And Mariah is not the female singer with more singles sold, that is a lie.
    But well, that is typical of Mariah fans, saying lies and don’t recognize that Madonna beats Mariah, they already know it but they can’t accept it, so they insult Madonna and write lots of bull s***s

    And come on, if America was the most important market, then Mariah would be the maximum female star and she isn’t, is Madonna.
    Madonna is the ones who beats Mariah, not the opposite. And at least Madonna can sell out tickets for stadiums in Asia and America in a time record.
    Mariah has been struggling to sell out a 3000 arena and she couldn’t ha ha.

    Madonna is the one who beats any female singer, even though you don’t wanna recognize it.
    Truth hurts, sorry :D

  176. Tiffany says:

    I am from USA, and I can tell you that I have some relatives who work in Billboard and RIAA

    So, I know perfectly well what I’m going to say to you guys: Madonna is still the maximum female star in America and in the rest of the world. Saying that she has no success anymore in USA is a real lie.

    But, I mean……..who cares about that ??
    Personally, I prefer Celine Dion, Whitney and Mariah, and I think that they deserve to be the best selling female singers, but they aren’t, the top selling and most successful singer all around the world and even in America is Madonna (well Madonna in US only behind Barbra). I really don’t like that idea because I think that she doesn’t deserve it, but unfortunately, she is :(

    But, that is not the most important thing, the most important is that we should enjoy the music we like without fighting and just think about how the songs of Mariah, Celine or Whitney touch our souls and our hearts.

    LONG LIVE MARIAH CAREY, CELINE DION AND WHITNEY HOUSTON :D

  177. Mars says:

    This is for Ali:

    Madonna doesn’t need Diamond award, neither millennium award to prove who she really is.
    And if Mariah had that honor, then why those awards were IRRELEVANT for millions of people and NOT KNOWN for many others all around the world, huh ? tell me why. Because, I mean, most of the people keep on saying that Madonna is the top selling female, and that is true.
    The awards of Mariah were not enough for her to be recognized as the best selling female ???? HAHAHA what a shame !!
    Madonna without those awards, was and is still considered officially as the top selling female artist of all time,
    you see ?? awards are not valuable sometimes.

    And is a bull sh** saying that Mariah is the ones who sold more singles, that is not true.

    Mariah fans already know that Madonna beats their idol in all senses, but they can’t stand it ,so they start saying lies, insulting other people,etc…..
    And I mean unfortunately, because they always make battles and always lose. Maybe that’s why they can’t be so happy.

    And don’t come with the excuse that Madonna has more years of career, I mean….they have only 7 years of difference and Mariah has already one more studio album recorded than Madonna. BUT, Madonna has more than 200 millions over Mariah, and that for only 7 years of career is a lot.That means that even though Mariah and Madonna had the same time of career, Madonna would still on top.

    Mariah only sold 160 millions, and Madonna more than 380 millions.

    And come on, US may be the most important market, but not bigger than whole Europe actually, DUH !! And America is a whole continent, not only USA
    And even in America, Madonna is still the maximum female star , and obviously in the rest of the world.

    And if Mariah ruled in Asia, then why she can’t even sell out her tickets for her concerts with a time records just like Madonna.
    The tickets of confessions tour in Tokyo dome were sold out in 5 minutes

    And in USA, Mariah was struggling to sell out a 3000 seat arena , but she couldn’t hahaha.

    And at least, Madonna can sell out stadiums in a record time , if Mariah was a bigger seller or star, she would do the same and everyone would want to listen her songs live, isn’t it ? But why it isn’t like that ??? because Mariah is nothing compared with Madonna, FACT 1!!

    Truth hurts isn’t it ? :D

    PD: I KNOW I’M SOUNDING SO RUDE, BUT IS JUST MY WAY OF SPEAKING AND SAYING REAL FACTS.

    JUST FOR CONCLUSION: MADONNA ACTUALLY BEATS MARIAH CAREY AND BY A LOT

  178. Chris says:

    Sorry for Madonna’s fan,but Mariah Carey is the best –selling artist of all times and she rules the world of disc.Too bad for Europeans if they don’t like Mariah’s music,Mariah get through it very well.She’s the best –selling female artist in America,surpassing Barbra Streisand.Maybe Europeans more start off in eccentricity,vulgarity,provocation and scandals.Fortunately in America,scales tip in the side of quality,talent,artistry and refinement.America’s market of discs is the largest in the world (more than three times Europe’s market).The sales of discs (albums & singles) are more decisive in USA than anywhere.In France (like in many other great Europe’s countries),Diamond ‘s disc certification is equivalent of 1 million discs sold (10 million in USA),in Greece and Lettonia,it’s 100 thousands.Platinum disc is a 100 thousand sold disc (10 thousand in Greece and Lettonia) and Gold disc is 500 thousand sold disc ( five thousand in Greece & Lettonia).There’s even not a measurement for 10 million discs sold certification.It’s just to show you that Europe isn’t a large disc market as America.
    Moreover,to reply to everyone who writes that America is not the whole world (for disc’s sales and hit songs),you see that Europe didn’t even better.Besides,Japan disc’s market combined with all other Asian countries, is as large as Europe’s and often more large.Mariah is the best-selling western artist in Japan.She got several #1’s hits in this country.Many other Asian countries are great supporters of Mariah,like Philippines, Hong Kong,South Korea and Singapore. If Madonna got Europe,Mariah got Asia.Madonna’s world hits are not most popular than Mariah’s.WE BELONG TOGETHER,HERO,ALL I WANT FOR XMAS IS YOU,WITHOUT YOU are even most popular worldwide than many Madonna’s hits.It’s just in Europe that Madonna’s hits are most popular than Mariah’s.Like America,,Europe is not the whole world as one of you tells it.And Mariah is most successful in America than Madonna,as we know it.In just 20 years of career,Mariah won close lo 20 World Music Awards (honorific distinction who reflects the very important sales of each artist),Madonna won just 1 World Music Award in her entire career.Since 1996, Guinness Book of Records recognized Mariah as the best-selling female artist,also in 2000.At 1998 VH1 Divas live Show,Mariah was introduced as the best-selling female artist of the world.She won the Millennium Award in 2000 (more than 150 millions albums sold without single’s counting).She was also introduced at the 2002 Super Bowl as the biggest female recording artist in history.Then she won the Chopard Diamond Award.Mariah is also the world single’s best selling female artist inn the world.
    Then Suddenly,Madonna is presented by some as the best selling female artist in the world.In fact,Madonna’s sales figures (stipulating 300 millions and more) are just estimations and resting more on her fame and celebrity than her real sales.Nothing never proves these sudden and sizable sales figures of Madonna.
    I have many questions for those of you who tells that Madonna sold more than Mariah :
    -Why Madonna didn’t get more than one and only World Music Award in her entirely career ?
    -How much discs (albums and singles) Madonna sold when Mariah won the Millennium Award in 2000,and the Chopard Diamond Award in 2002 ?
    -Why it wasn’t Madonna who get honored by for selling the most albums and singles worldwide ?
    -Why Madonna did never honored by any best selling female artist Award in her entire career ?
    -If it’s true that Madonna sold most discs than Mariah,when Madonna’s sales did catch up with Mariah ‘s ?
    -When did they exceeds Mariah’s sales ?
    These ones proves between many others that Mariah is really the best selling female artist of all times.

  179. Stephen says:

    You’re right.Mariah is the best,she beats Madonna.

  180. Stephen says:

    Mariah Carey is the best –selling artist of all times and she rules the world of disc.Too bad for Europeans if they don’t like Mariah’s music,Mariah get through it very well.She’s the best –selling female artist in America,surpassing Barbra Streisand.Maybe Europeans more start off in eccentricity,vulgarity,provocation and scandals.Fortunately in America,scales tip in the side of quality,talent,artistry and refinement.America’s market of discs is the largest in the world (more than three times Europe’s market).The sales of discs (albums & singles) are more decisive in USA than anywhere.In France (like in many other great Europe’s countries),Diamond ‘s disc certification is equivalent of 1 million discs sold (10 million in USA),in Greece and Lettonia,it’s 100 thousands.Platinum disc is a 100 thousand sold disc (10 thousand in Greece and Lettonia) and Gold disc is 500 thousand sold disc ( five thousand in Greece & lettonia).There’s even not a measurement for 10 million discs sold certification.It’s just to show you that Europe isn’t a large disc market as America.
    Moreover,to reply to everyone who writes that America is not the whole world (for disc’s sales and hit songs),you see that Europe didn’t even better.Besides,Japan disc’s market combined with all other Asian countries,is as large as Europe’s and often more large.Mariah is the best-selling western artist in Japan.She got several #1’s hits in this country.Many other Asian countries are great supporters of Mariah,like Philippines, Hong Kong, South Korea and Singapore.If Madonna got Europe,Mariah got Asia.Madonna’s world hits are not most popular than Mariah’s.WE BELONG TOGETHER, HERO, ALL I WANT FOR XMAS IS YOU,WITHOUT YOU are even most popular worldwide than many Madonna’s hits.It’s just in Europe that Madonna’s hits are most popular than Mariah’s.Like America,,Europe is not the whole world as one of you tells it.And Mariah is most successful in America than Madonna,as we know it.In just 20 years of career,Mariah won close lo 20 World Music Awards (honorific distinction who reflects the very important sales of each artist),Madonna won just 1 World Music Award in her entire career.Since 1996,Guinness Book of Records recognized Mariah as the best-selling female artist,also in 2000.At 1998 VH1 Divas live Show,Mariah was introduced as the best-selling female artist of the world.She won the Millennium Award in 2000 (more than 150 millions albums sold without single’s counting).She was also introduced at the 2002 Super Bowl as the biggest female recording artist in history.Then she won the Chopard Diamond Award.Mariah is also the world single’s best selling female artist inn the world.
    Then Suddenly,Madonna is presented by some as the best selling female artist in the world.In fact,Madonna’s sales figures (stipulating 300 millions and more) are just estimations and resting more on her fame and celebrity than her real sales.Nothing never proves these sudden and sizable sales figures of Madonna.
    I have many questions for those of you who tells that Madonna sold more than Mariah :
    -Why Madonna didn’t get more than one and only World Music Award in her entirely career ?
    -How much discs (albums and singles) Madonna sold when Mariah won the Millennium Award in 2000,and the Chopard Diamond Award in 2002 ?
    -Why it wasn’t Madonna who get honored by for selling the most albums and singles worldwide ?
    -Why Madonna did never honored by any best selling female artist Award in her entire career ?
    -If it’s true that Madonna sold most discs than Mariah,when Madonna’s sales did catch up with Mariah ‘s ?
    -When did they exceeds Mariah’s sales ?
    These ones proves between many others that Mariah is really the best selling female artist of all times.Just recognize it,peace.

  181. ANSWERING TO CHRIS AND STEPHEN says:

    First of all, it doesn’t really matter which market is bigger than other ones……WHAT is really important is how many sales the artist may have, and believe me that Madonna beats Mariah and not only in Europe, BUT, I guess we should go into parts in order to reply your comment my friend.
    First of all, Madonna has much more sales in a smaller continent (Europe) than Mariah Carey in a bigger continent (Asia, or the places that you mentioned to be more specific) or America (US, to be more specific)
    Moreover, I have some observations for you my friend:
    #1 It’s too bad for you saying what you just said about European people JUST BECAUSE THEY DON’T LIKE YOUR IDOL, it’s obvious that you wrote that because of HATE to Madonna and because UR JEALOUS, at least that’s what your way of writing seems to be like.

    #2 Mariah is not yet the biggest selling female artist in America, she hasn’t surpassed Barbra Streisand yet, neither Madonna.

    #3 as I said before, America may be the largest market, but that doesn’t make an artist the biggest one, I mean….look at those rap and hip hop artists for god’s sake!!! They have not a super stardom actually outside some parts of US. Moreover, Europe is not how you are saying and America neither. Europe just has a different way of seeing things and is not of vulgarity, it’s just about different ways of thinking. In America, we’ve been get used to be more close to some kind of things, and it is not bad, is just about culture and different ways of thinking.

    #4: Are you trying to say that Madonna hasn’t diamond certification for her albums ?? Excuse me, but she also has diamond certification albums in USA. And when you speak about Europe, come on !! you are not even mentioning all the countries of Europe but let me tell you what I’ve said before, that doesn’t make the importance of an artist.

    #5 Speaking about Asia, I know that Madonna hasn’t been so successful as Mariah selling discs in that continent, BUT….when she goes to tour there, she causes much more sensation there than MARIAH…the tickets for confessions tour in Tokyo Dome were sold out in a record breaking time of 5 minutes only. The maximum record of Mariah Carey there was of 31 minutes and MADONNA’s maximum record there was 5 minutes! (Record breaking time in ticket’s sales for concerts)

    #6 you are sometimes confusing the sizes of the continents and the importance of market, which HAS NOTHING TO DO ONE TO EACH OTHER. And, you are not even supporting what you are saying with real congruency. America is not actually the whole world of discs and hits and that is truth, but you want to convince that it is, but you won’t make it, because it isn’t actually .Or, are you trying to prove that it is ??? Well…..read everything you have written and you’ll see that you haven’t proved it yet.

    #7: Madonna’s world hits, OF COURSE THEY ARE MORE POPULAR WORLDWIDE THAN THE MARIAH SONGS YOU’VE MENTIONED. What you wrote is such a huge lie!! Where are your proves? huh? tell me….and don’t show me “arguments” from Mariah web sites made by the lambs like all Mariah fans use to do. Just go and check the charts of Mariah and Madonna worldwide and You’ll see that MADONNA’S HITS ARE MUCH MORE POPULAR AND SUCCESSFUL THAN MARIAH’S HITS WORLDWIDE, if you don’t know well….better don’t write ok? And if you come here saying lies, your credibility as a Mariah fan will decrease more and more.

    #8: Actually, Mariah Carey is not more successful than Madonna in America and the reason why many of her last songs haven’t been in good chart position there is because Madonna doesn’t give promotion to her songs in that country actually, but when she makes tours, the tickets in USA are sold out in record breaking time in giant stadiums. What about Mariah Carey??? She has been struggling to full an arena of 3000 people and she didn’t make it!!! Don’t you think that if Mariah was a bigger star than Madonna and more successful, people would definitely want to see her in concert and listen her hits live ???
    So, why it doesn’t happen? it’s easy to answer…..because Mariah is not more successful than Madonna neither in USA, at least not in that sense.
    Moreover, haven’t you seen the comment of a user here called Tiffany??? I guess she is the comment 175, or 176……she has relatives who work in those companies; you can’t know more than she does for god’s sake.

    #9: You are lying about GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS , THAT BOOK published in 2000, in 2007 and in 2008 THAT MADONNA IS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME WORLDWIDE because her sales surpass 338’600’000 millions of albums sold
    GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS NEVER MENTIONED MARIAH CAREY AS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST.

    #10: Mariah received lots of millennium awards and received millennium award and Chopard diamond award, but tell me……..SO WHY MAJOR PART OF THE WORLD DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THAT ??? AND FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IT WAS NOT IMPORTANT AND DIDN’T TAKE CARE OF MARIAH CAREY. And most people , believe me, are still considering Madonna as the world’s biggest selling female recording artist of history.
    Madonna doesn’t need to receive those kinds of awards to prove who she really is, that is something that speaks by itself and without those awards, Madonna is considered by the major part of people worldwide as the top selling female and most successful one. And Mariah even though she has those awards, she keeps struggling to be considered as that and she can’t yet. That is pure truth. So I guess it’s a shame for Mariah.

    #11: Madonna was never presented suddenly by someone as you said as the highest selling, that is something that has been known already, that’s why she is not even interested to publish it in every place she goes. Because she doesn’t need to prove anything else, major part of the world knows already that Madonna is the highest selling female and most successful recording female artist in history.

    #12: The 300 millions are not only estimations, and even though they were, COME ON ! Use common sense: Estimations are almost always approximated to the real sales….I mean….it seems that you’re trying to say that Madonna have sold less than 150 millions ??? well…that is false, she has sold more than 380 millions and it was officially published by Warner Brothers Inc…and not because it’s her company, is because they counted right, but now sales are higher.
    What you are saying about celebrity has nothing to do with sales.

    #13:So, don’t say lies or try to make up many things that and cover your opinions and your illusions as a “lamb” and try to make them appear as facts, because you haven’t still enough fundamentals and tools for your arguments. That’s why most of Mariah fans are irrelevant, because of their lies and come on !!
    Just because you wrote this, that doesn’t make that major part will believe you. Major part of the world is still considering Madonna as the most successful female in music business worldwide.

    # 14: Now, answering to your questions to Madonna fans:
    1) -Why Madonna didn’t get more than one and only World Music Award in her entirely career ?
    As we’ve said before, Madonna doesn’t need to prove anything with the world music awards, she is still the best selling female and everyone recognizes it , but if you want to know why , Madonna has been focusing since the beginning of her career to another types of records, she actually doesn’t care too much about sales. But, haven’t you noticed that there have been a lot of times when Madonna has rejected some awards and some invitations to some events ?? And according to many sources, Madonna hasn’t replied invitations for world music awards lots of times. I cannot tell you why,cuz there are not so specific sources that say this in an specific way, but she have said that a lot of times

    2) -How much discs (albums and singles) Madonna sold when Mariah won the Millennium Award in 2000,and the Chopard Diamond Award in 2002 ?
    By the time Mariah received those awards, Madonna was already known by the major part of the world as the biggest selling female and GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS have published already that she sold more than 338’600’000 million albums sold, with singles counting, but in albums only, she had already more than 200 million albums sold, the rest was of singles.
    2) -Why it wasn’t Madonna who get honored by for selling the most albums and singles worldwide ?
    I’ve already answered that to you in a certain way…..and there are some sources, which to be honest I don’t trust , is also because Madonna didn’t reply to the invitation of the world music awards. But she was honored By GUINNESS, and let me tell you that GUINNESS is much more respected and more important than World Music Awards, because even though they are not specialists in music, they are specialists in the biggest and most amazing records of the world and they don’t give awards….they PROVE AND DEMONSTRATE TO THE WORLD REAL FACTS AND REAL IMPRESSIVE RECORDS!!!
    Mariah Carey with millennium and diamond award was still irrelevant for millions of people………I mean, go and ask to many people and they won’t even know about those awards of Mariah and the first thing that will come to their minds of who’s the best selling will be Madonna.
    And I tell you this, not without tools, because if you notice…………….a very validate way to prove the success is making lots of polls to the people, and believe me, in many important web sites of associations of polls, Madonna beats Mariah carey when people are asked who is the top selling female artist ? who do you prefer ?…..Madonna always wins…………and if you don0t believe me, well….I invite you to research it by YOURSELF :D OK ???
    4) -Why Madonna did never honored by any best selling female artist Award in her entire career ?
    That is not something that is demonstrated by awards, that is demonstrated by FACTS, and proved by real sources of experts in records. Actually that is something of business and it ‘s not so important to receive an award for this, is to be mentioned by the most important source of records (like Guinness Forbes,etc……)
    And as I said before, that is something that comes by itself and is known by itself. That’s why Madonna is still recognized by majorities as the top selling female artist of all time
    5) -If it’s true that Madonna sold most discs than Mariah, when Madonna’s sales did catch up with Mariah ‘s ?
    Madonna had already millions of albums sold in advantage over Mariah Carey when Mariah started, but even though Mariah or Madonna had the same years of career (which is not) anyway……..Madonna would still on the top and doesn’t need awards to demonstrate that.

    Now, you see that awards are not the most relevant or important sources ??
    And anyway, Madonna has much more valuable awards than Mariah……go and research them if you want .
    6) -When did they exceeds Mariah’s sales ?

    I already answered that to you in different ways…………..and of course in this decade Madonna has been beating Mariah.
    Also let me tell you that Madonna had much more achievements in 80s decade than Mariah Carey in the 90s, she also received award of artist of the decade and was already the highest selling female. That is pure truth. She surpassed all the female singers of that time.
    At the early 90s, Madonna was losing many things because of the scandals of erotic, sex,etc……in the middle of the 90s, Madonna wasn’t making studio albums and at the end of the 90s, she came back and returned to the top and began to sell more than Mariah Carey again.
    But moreover, how do you want Madonna to receive 2000 millennium award when she wasn’t really working in studio albums for years ??? But anyway……….she was much more wanted than Mariah in that time and was already known as what I’ve said lots of time before (the top selling female) and that millennium of Mariah wasn’t really important actually for the world’s music business, just for her fans and for her obviously.
    So, it’s nice that Mariah was honored by those awards. But, Madonna has the most important……..the preference and the support of the majorities all around the world.

    Moreover, many people of US mentions it as if it was all America….I know the story of that.
    But anyway…….Madonna has much more fans and success than Mariah Carey in the whole American continent (Canada, parts of US, all Latin America), Europe, Africa and Oceania (even though she never goes to tour there, she has much more success in those places)
    The only place where I believe Mariah could be bigger is in Japan and those places of Asia you just mentioned. But at least Madonna has much more sensation when she goes there than Mariah. Madonna tickets in Asia are sold out immediately and more quickly than Mariah’s ones.
    And in USA, Mariah has no success touring, while Madonna has a record breaking time there selling out big stadiums. If Mariah was more successful or a bigger star, she would do the same or the double, because people would want to listen her 18#1s live, but why that doesn’t happen ??
    Moreover, most of 18 #1s of Mariah are not even remembered……..Madonna in the other hand, many of her 36top worldwide songs are classics even in US.

    AND I FOUND OUT ANOTHER LIE OF YOURS: “MARIAH CAREY IS THE BEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF SINGLES”

    THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!!! THAT IS ANOTHER HUGE LIE DUDE
    MADONNA IS, AND THAT IS A FACT.
    IT SEEMS THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO WRITE LIES OR TO RELATE THINGS WITH OTHER ONES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH AND PUT ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE NO CONGRUENCY, BUT ALSO YOU ARE STEALING SOME RECORDS OF MADONNA AND PUTTING THEM TO MARIAH.

    CONCLUSION:

    I’m sorry Chris, but what you wrote here was not supportive to your arguments, so you have not credibility . You just came to write without analyzing carefully.
    I’m sorry But Madonna beats Mariah Carey in all senses.
    Actually I’ve nothing against Mariah because I know she ‘s a great person and she has made songs that have touched my soul deeply but facts are facts, Mimi loses and that is a fact.

    Now, you see that awards are not important if you don’t count with the support of the audience? BECAUSE THE LAST WORD IS TAKEN BYE THE AUDIENCE
    Madonna may not have those awards but she counts with the support of much more people than Mariah and has much more audience. That’s why she is still considered by almost everybody as the top selling recording female artist and most successful female and most famous female artist in history of all times.
    But I mean, does it really make something important to you ? Why is so important for you that Mariah is the top selling ?? I mean, that is not the most important finally.
    Maybe that’s why Mariah fans can’t enjoy a lot her music, they waste their time with hate and lies.
    Maybe that’s why Madonna fans can enjoy Madonna much more, because they know that she beats Mariah in everything worldwide and they don’t need to prove it. But at the end of the day, everybody says “well she may be the best seller, but the most important is what she convey to us with her music and shows”
    Lambs should do the same

  182. MOFF says:

    .. ok ok
    You are still not able to understand that Madonna is the most successful female singer on earth.

    Calculate Madonnas sales. You will get a summary of over 300 million.
    Calculate Mariah’s sales, you will get a summary of more than 200, but not more than 250.
    Count it! Start!

    Why didn’t Madonna get the Chopard Diamond Award?
    A very important topic..
    Because Madonna didn’t want this awards!!
    MADONNA REFUSED IT.
    But why?

    Madonna is a person who doesn’t want to end a career.
    Madonna has started in 1982 and doesn’t want to see an end until she is dead.
    A Diamond Award would mark an end of her entire career, and it would maybe influence her sales.
    Madonna – Farewell?? No… She is 51. she wants to go on with her music.

    This silly awards.. Chopard, World musics,…. everything BULLSH**
    You don’t have to look to the awards (America)
    You can look to the Grammys.. Madonna has won 9. Mariah 5 Whitney 6 and Celine 6 not more than Madonna.
    But this doesn’t matter.

    Look to the CHART PERFORMANCE, RECORD SALES and to her POPULARITY

    Madonna is on the top!

    Madonna can sell out stadiums.. Mariah can’t do that.
    REALIZE THAT MADONNA HAS SOLD THE MOST RECORDS:

    Madonna is even more popular than Mariah in the US!!

    And I accept that Mariah is good in Asia (Japan) but Madonna also, maybe not like Mariah but everyone knows Madonna songs as well.

    Why didn’t have Mariah number one songs in the WORLD MUSIC CHARTS????? WHY?

    look: mediatraffic.com

  183. MOFF says:

    And PS
    Madonna has exactly 7 years more than Mariah Carey and she has sold more than 336 millions according to Guinness and according to Warner bros. inc. IFPI, 2005 she surpassed 380 million, just imagine now.
    Mariah Carey according to IFPI has sold only 180 millions, come on, Madonna has 200 millions over Mariah and that is a lot ! See ?
    If you look for professional years , YOU’LL see the real fact which says that MADONNA BEATS MARIAH CAREY
    But well…… you are a Mariah Carey fan, you cannot recognize the truth.

  184. MOFF says:

    Stephen, Chris
    you are just wrong
    don’t lie to us.

    Mars is right and Answering to Chris and Stephen is totally right!

    Everything they have written is true and true.
    You don’t have any more arguments.

    Madonna is the most successful female artist of all time.
    THE END

  185. Carlos says:

    Moff:

    You are totally right !

    The one who answer to Stephen and Chris is also totally right.

    Is obvious that Madonna is much more successful and better seller than Mariah Carey

    But you forgot to mention something:

    Madonna also beats Mariah Carey in some parts of Asia, such as Israel….well actually I can’t remember if Israel is in Asia or Europe still, but also she beats Mariah in the Asian part of Russia and some other countries.
    Madonna also beats Mariah Carey in Oceania, Africa, Latin America, and the rest of American continent (Canada)
    And about Europe, is not necessary to mention

    IF TRUTH HURTS THE LAMBS, THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM, NOT OF MADONNA’S FANS

    Madonna wins, FACT!

  186. Karl says:

    Moff:

    You are totally right !! as well as the person who answered very well to Chris and Stephen who by the way must be the same person LOL

    But you forgot to mention something:

    Madonna is not only more wanted by people than Mariah in US (or at least that’s what it seems speaking about tours and speaking about importance of both artists) but she also beats Mariah in some parts of Asia, for example The Asian part of Russia, she also beats Mariah in Israel, and some other countries of Asia. And is right about tickets sales in Asia :D Madonna has much more sensation even there , even though Mariah has sold more records in that continent.

    And obviously, Madonna is much more successful, popular, has much more fans and sells much more in Canada, all Latin America, Oceania, Africa and Europe.

    So, obviously Madonna wins

  187. Zac says:

    All right MOFF you have shown me the light and now I realize the understanding of your statements. And thank you Alexis for your statement but I’m team Mariah and I agree with Alexis 100%

  188. Alice says:

    But you don’t like truth? why you said Madonna sales more discs than Mariah? why you hate Mariah? Why you can’t accept she’s beat Madonna,its true!!

  189. Jerry says:

    Chris and Stephen proof are very good! that explicit Mariah is really the best-female selling discs of all time,not Madonna!

  190. Martha says:

    Yeah! Chris and Stephen are right! Mariah is the best selling female artist of all time.Madonna never beat Mariah,ever! All prove that Mariah win!
    Mariah is a phenomenal diva,Madonna’s suck…

  191. MOFF says:

    Zac now I can understand you. You understand me, that’s good.

    BUT: Martha, Jerry and Alice

    you are persons who declare any things, but are not able to prove them!!
    So stupid!

    Look to the answer of “Answering to Chris and Stephen”
    and you realize why Madonna is the most successful female singer.
    Its Madonna not Mariah
    I beg you to calculate Madonnas sales.
    Please do that, and don’t write any sh** like “Mariah is the best selling female artist in history”
    First count, and then tell!

    If I want to write anything I want to tell you I have to look it up first.
    Or check the things out you are not sure about
    DO THAT

    Awards: Madonna doesn’t want them or doesn’t need even need them. People know Madonna is the highest selling artist.

    Sales: Madonna has sold more records than Carey

    350m for Madonna
    200 for Mariah

    Chart performance: Madonna

    Mariah:
    *1 , Top 10

    USA: 18, 27
    UK: 1, 23
    Germany: 1, 6
    Canada: 6 , 21

    Madonna:
    *1, Top 10

    USA: 12, 37
    UK: 13, 63
    Germany: 4, 25
    Canada 24 , 49

    And now tell me, who is more successful??????

  192. MOFF says:

    You still cannot understand it
    Zac you are ok

    But
    Martha, Jerry and Alice??????

    Can you prove it?? Do that

    Before I declare something I check it out!!
    So do the same
    Who has sold more?
    Look it up!

    Please don’t lie to us, everything you have written is unnecessary stuff nobody wants to hear.
    Prove it and then write!

  193. FOR MOFF says:

    MOFF: You are totally right :D:D:D

    JERRY, ALICE AND MARTHA:

    YOU ARE SO DUMB ASS, AGAIN THE LAMBS ARE HERE WITH THEIR BULL SH**S, LOOK FOR THE COMMENT:

    “ANSWERING TO CHRIS AND STEPHEN”

    AND WHEN YOU READ IT , YOU’LL REALIZE AND PROVE THAT THE THINGS THAT CHRIS AND STEPHEN SAID IS NOT ENOUGH PROVE AND MOST OF THEM ARE LIES!!!!

  194. Cori says:

    thank god there are some lambs who are objective, like Nicholas :D

    I’ve been reading all comments and not only Madonna has more supporters, but I was impressed of seeing that there are some fans of Mariah who really accept that Madonna beats Mariah Carey.

    But as Alexis said before, that is not the most important, so it’s better for you to chill out guys

  195. FOR MOFF says:

    MOFF: YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT :D

    MARTH, ALICE AND JERRY:
    AGAIN THE LAMBS ARE COMING WITH THEIR BULL SH**S!!! YOU STILL CANNOT RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH, YOU ARE THE ONES WHO DON’T WANNA FACE IT (OBVIOUSLY MADONNA BEATS MARIAH CAREY)

    FIRST OF ALL :
    READ “ANSWERING TO CHRIS AND STEPHEN” AND AFTER YOU DO IT, YOU’LL REALIZE THAT WHAT CHRIS AND STEPHEN WROTE ARE NOT ENOUGH PROVES, ARE MIXED WITH OPINIONS AND THAT MOST OF WHAT THEY WROTE ARE REAL LIES!!! LMAO!!

    AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AS THAT USER SAID “MAJOR PART OF THE WORLD KNOWS IT AND SUPPORTS IT AS A FACT”

    BETTER I WILL COPY AND PASTE IT FOR YOU GUYS IN ORDER TO MAKE IT FASTER ^^

    “ANSWERING TO CHRIS AND STEPHEN”

    First of all, it doesn’t really matter which market is bigger than other ones……WHAT is really important is how many sales the artist may have, and believe me that Madonna beats Mariah and not only in Europe, BUT, I guess we should go into parts in order to reply your comment my friend.
    First of all, Madonna has much more sales in a smaller continent (Europe) than Mariah Carey in a bigger continent (Asia, or the places that you mentioned to be more specific) or America (US, to be more specific)
    Moreover, I have some observations for you my friend:
    #1 It’s too bad for you saying what you just said about European people JUST BECAUSE THEY DON’T LIKE YOUR IDOL, it’s obvious that you wrote that because of HATE to Madonna and because UR JEALOUS, at least that’s what your way of writing seems to be like.

    #2 Mariah is not yet the biggest selling female artist in America, she hasn’t surpassed Barbra Streisand yet, neither Madonna.

    #3 as I said before, America may be the largest market, but that doesn’t make an artist the biggest one, I mean….look at those rap and hip hop artists for god’s sake!!! They have not a super stardom actually outside some parts of US. Moreover, Europe is not how you are saying and America neither. Europe just has a different way of seeing things and is not of vulgarity, it’s just about different ways of thinking. In America, we’ve been get used to be more close to some kind of things, and it is not bad, is just about culture and different ways of thinking.

    #4: Are you trying to say that Madonna hasn’t diamond certification for her albums ?? Excuse me, but she also has diamond certification albums in USA. And when you speak about Europe, come on !! you are not even mentioning all the countries of Europe but let me tell you what I’ve said before, that doesn’t make the importance of an artist.

    #5 Speaking about Asia, I know that Madonna hasn’t been so successful as Mariah selling discs in that continent, BUT….when she goes to tour there, she causes much more sensation there than MARIAH…the tickets for confessions tour in Tokyo Dome were sold out in a record breaking time of 5 minutes only. The maximum record of Mariah Carey there was of 31 minutes and MADONNA’s maximum record there was 5 minutes! (Record breaking time in ticket’s sales for concerts)

    #6 you are sometimes confusing the sizes of the continents and the importance of market, which HAS NOTHING TO DO ONE TO EACH OTHER. And, you are not even supporting what you are saying with real congruency. America is not actually the whole world of discs and hits and that is truth, but you want to convince that it is, but you won’t make it, because it isn’t actually .Or, are you trying to prove that it is ??? Well…..read everything you have written and you’ll see that you haven’t proved it yet.

    #7: Madonna’s world hits, OF COURSE THEY ARE MORE POPULAR WORLDWIDE THAN THE MARIAH SONGS YOU’VE MENTIONED. What you wrote is such a huge lie!! Where are your proves? huh? tell me….and don’t show me “arguments” from Mariah web sites made by the lambs like all Mariah fans use to do. Just go and check the charts of Mariah and Madonna worldwide and You’ll see that MADONNA’S HITS ARE MUCH MORE POPULAR AND SUCCESSFUL THAN MARIAH’S HITS WORLDWIDE, if you don’t know well….better don’t write ok? And if you come here saying lies, your credibility as a Mariah fan will decrease more and more.

    #8: Actually, Mariah Carey is not more successful than Madonna in America and the reason why many of her last songs haven’t been in good chart position there is because Madonna doesn’t give promotion to her songs in that country actually, but when she makes tours, the tickets in USA are sold out in record breaking time in giant stadiums. What about Mariah Carey??? She has been struggling to full an arena of 3000 people and she didn’t make it!!! Don’t you think that if Mariah was a bigger star than Madonna and more successful, people would definitely want to see her in concert and listen her hits live ???
    So, why it doesn’t happen? it’s easy to answer…..because Mariah is not more successful than Madonna neither in USA, at least not in that sense.
    Moreover, haven’t you seen the comment of a user here called Tiffany??? I guess she is the comment 175, or 176……she has relatives who work in those companies; you can’t know more than she does for god’s sake.

    #9: You are lying about GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS , THAT BOOK published in 2000, in 2007 and in 2008 THAT MADONNA IS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST AND MOST SUCCESSFUL FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME WORLDWIDE because her sales surpass 338’600’000 millions of albums sold
    GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS NEVER MENTIONED MARIAH CAREY AS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST.

    #10: Mariah received lots of millennium awards and received millennium award and Chopard diamond award, but tell me……..SO WHY MAJOR PART OF THE WORLD DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THAT ??? AND FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IT WAS NOT IMPORTANT AND DIDN’T TAKE CARE OF MARIAH CAREY. And most people , believe me, are still considering Madonna as the world’s biggest selling female recording artist of history.
    Madonna doesn’t need to receive those kinds of awards to prove who she really is, that is something that speaks by itself and without those awards, Madonna is considered by the major part of people worldwide as the top selling female and most successful one. And Mariah even though she has those awards, she keeps struggling to be considered as that and she can’t yet. That is pure truth. So I guess it’s a shame for Mariah.

    #11: Madonna was never presented suddenly by someone as you said as the highest selling, that is something that has been known already, that’s why she is not even interested to publish it in every place she goes. Because she doesn’t need to prove anything else, major part of the world knows already that Madonna is the highest selling female and most successful recording female artist in history.

    #12: The 300 millions are not only estimations, and even though they were, COME ON ! Use common sense: Estimations are almost always approximated to the real sales….I mean….it seems that you’re trying to say that Madonna have sold less than 150 millions ??? well…that is false, she has sold more than 380 millions and it was officially published by Warner Brothers Inc…and not because it’s her company, is because they counted right, but now sales are higher.
    What you are saying about celebrity has nothing to do with sales.

    #13:So, don’t say lies or try to make up many things that and cover your opinions and your illusions as a “lamb” and try to make them appear as facts, because you haven’t still enough fundamentals and tools for your arguments. That’s why most of Mariah fans are irrelevant, because of their lies and come on !!
    Just because you wrote this, that doesn’t make that major part will believe you. Major part of the world is still considering Madonna as the most successful female in music business worldwide.

    # 14: Now, answering to your questions to Madonna fans:
    1) -Why Madonna didn’t get more than one and only World Music Award in her entirely career ?
    As we’ve said before, Madonna doesn’t need to prove anything with the world music awards, she is still the best selling female and everyone recognizes it , but if you want to know why , Madonna has been focusing since the beginning of her career to another types of records, she actually doesn’t care too much about sales. But, haven’t you noticed that there have been a lot of times when Madonna has rejected some awards and some invitations to some events ?? And according to many sources, Madonna hasn’t replied invitations for world music awards lots of times. I cannot tell you why, because there are not so specific sources that say this in an specific way, but she have said that a lot of times

    2) -How much discs (albums and singles) Madonna sold when Mariah won the Millennium Award in 2000,and the Chopard Diamond Award in 2002 ?
    By the time Mariah received those awards, Madonna was already known by the major part of the world as the biggest selling female and GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS have published already that she sold more than 338’600’000 million albums sold, with singles counting, but in albums only, she had already more than 200 million albums sold, the rest was of singles.
    2) -Why it wasn’t Madonna who get honored by for selling the most albums and singles worldwide ?
    I’ve already answered that to you in a certain way…..and there are some sources, which to be honest I don’t trust , is also because Madonna didn’t reply to the invitation of the world music awards. But she was honored By GUINNESS, and let me tell you that GUINNESS is much more respected and more important than World Music Awards, because even though they are not specialists in music, they are specialists in the biggest and most amazing records of the world and they don’t give awards….they PROVE AND DEMONSTRATE TO THE WORLD REAL FACTS AND REAL IMPRESSIVE RECORDS!!!
    Mariah Carey with millennium and diamond award was still irrelevant for millions of people………I mean, go and ask to many people and they won’t even know about those awards of Mariah and the first thing that will come to their minds of who’s the best selling will be Madonna.
    And I tell you this, not without tools, because if you notice…………….a very validate way to prove the success is making lots of polls to the people, and believe me, in many important web sites of associations of polls, Madonna beats Mariah Carey when people are asked who is the top selling female artist ? who do you prefer ?…..Madonna always wins…………and if you don0t believe me, well….I invite you to research it by YOURSELF :D OK ???
    4) -Why Madonna did never honored by any best selling female artist Award in her entire career ?
    That is not something that is demonstrated by awards, that is demonstrated by FACTS, and proved by real sources of experts in records. Actually that is something of business and it ‘s not so important to receive an award for this, is to be mentioned by the most important source of records (like Guinness Forbes,etc……)
    And as I said before, that is something that comes by itself and is known by itself. That’s why Madonna is still recognized by majorities as the top selling female artist of all time
    5) -If it’s true that Madonna sold most discs than Mariah, when Madonna’s sales did catch up with Mariah ‘s ?
    Madonna had already millions of albums sold in advantage over Mariah Carey when Mariah started, but even though Mariah or Madonna had the same years of career (which is not) anyway……..Madonna would still on the top and doesn’t need awards to demonstrate that.

    Now, you see that awards are not the most relevant or important sources ??
    And anyway, Madonna has much more valuable awards than Mariah……go and research them if you want .
    6) -When did they exceeds Mariah’s sales ?

    I already answered that to you in different ways…………..and of course in this decade Madonna has been beating Mariah.
    Also let me tell you that Madonna had much more achievements in 80s decade than Mariah Carey in the 90s, she also received award of artist of the decade and was already the highest selling female. That is pure truth. She surpassed all the female singers of that time.
    At the early 90s, Madonna was losing many things because of the scandals of erotic, sex,etc……in the middle of the 90s, Madonna wasn’t making studio albums and at the end of the 90s, she came back and returned to the top and began to sell more than Mariah Carey again.
    But moreover, how do you want Madonna to receive 2000 millennium award when she wasn’t really working in studio albums for years ??? But anyway……….she was much more wanted than Mariah in that time and was already known as what I’ve said lots of time before (the top selling female) and that millennium of Mariah wasn’t really important actually for the world’s music business, just for her fans and for her obviously.
    So, it’s nice that Mariah was honored by those awards. But, Madonna has the most important……..the preference and the support of the majorities all around the world.

    Moreover, many people of US mentions it as if it was all America….I know the story of that.
    But anyway…….Madonna has much more fans and success than Mariah Carey in the whole American continent (Canada, parts of US, all Latin America), Europe, Africa and Oceania (even though she never goes to tour there, she has much more success in those places)
    The only place where I believe Mariah could be bigger is in Japan and those places of Asia you just mentioned. But at least Madonna has much more sensation when she goes there than Mariah. Madonna tickets in Asia are sold out immediately and more quickly than Mariah’s ones.
    And in USA, Mariah has no success touring, while Madonna has a record breaking time there selling out big stadiums. If Mariah was more successful or a bigger star, she would do the same or the double, because people would want to listen her 18#1s live, but why that doesn’t happen ??
    Moreover, most of 18 #1s of Mariah are not even remembered……..Madonna in the other hand, many of her 36top worldwide songs are classics even in US.

    AND I FOUND OUT ANOTHER LIE OF YOURS: “MARIAH CAREY IS THE BEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF SINGLES”

    THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!!! THAT IS ANOTHER HUGE LIE DUDE
    MADONNA IS, AND THAT IS A FACT.
    IT SEEMS THAT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO WRITE LIES OR TO RELATE THINGS WITH OTHER ONES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH AND PUT ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE NO CONGRUENCY, BUT ALSO YOU ARE STEALING SOME RECORDS OF MADONNA AND PUTTING THEM TO MARIAH.

    CONCLUSION:

    I’m sorry Chris, but what you wrote here was not supportive to your arguments, so you have not credibility . You just came to write without analyzing carefully.
    I’m sorry But Madonna beats Mariah Carey in all senses.
    Actually I’ve nothing against Mariah because I know she ‘s a great person and she has made songs that have touched my soul deeply but facts are facts, Mimi loses and that is a fact.

    Now, you see that awards are not important if you don’t count with the support of the audience? BECAUSE THE LAST WORD IS TAKEN BYE THE AUDIENCE
    Madonna may not have those awards but she counts with the support of much more people than Mariah and has much more audience. That’s why she is still considered by almost everybody as the top selling recording female artist and most successful female and most famous female artist in history of all times.
    But I mean, does it really make something important to you ? Why is so important for you that Mariah is the top selling ?? I mean, that is not the most important finally.
    Maybe that’s why Mariah fans can’t enjoy a lot her music, they waste their time with hate and lies.
    Maybe that’s why Madonna fans can enjoy Madonna much more, because they know that she beats Mariah in everything worldwide and they don’t need to prove it. But at the end of the day, everybody says “well she may be the best seller, but the most important is what she convey to us with her music and shows”
    Lambs should do the same

    THAT IS MORE THAN OBVIOUS !!!!

    COME ON LAMBS, STOP BEING FRUSTRATED AND FACE THE TRUTH, NO MATTER IT HURTS YOU.

    DON’T YOU THINK THAT IF THAT WASN’T TRUE, THEN MANY THINGS WOULDN’T BE LIKE THEY ARE ACTUALLY ??
    FOR EXAMPLE:

    MARIAH WOULD BE THE ONE WHO SELL OUT STADIUMS AND NOT MADONNA (THAT IS JUST OBVIOUSLY A SIMPLE EXAMPLE AMONG MANY OTHER IMPORTANT PROVES)

  196. Zac says:

    Okay everyone chill out. This is ridiculous. I love Mariah Carey and I respect Madonna’s music but does it really matter who has sold more I mean really. I know that there are Mariah haters and there are Madonna haters and they all hate each other but really does it matter. Can’t we just all relax and just enjoy the music cause there is really no point to this cause everyone has their own opinions but no matter what you say it’s not going to change Mariah or Madonna’s chart records or sales so how about everyone just give it up cause it’s not doing anything.

  197. MOFF says:

    Zac you’re right.

    I think there will never be an agreement.
    There are Mariah fans and there are Madonna fans.
    Both fight for their artists.
    But it’s obvious that Madonna has sold more than Carey.
    Every music company can prove it.
    It doesn’t matter if I like Mariah or not.

    Madonna has sold more. End of the story.
    There are so many arguments.

    And for Mariah haters:
    I prefer Madonna. I love Madonnas music more than Mariah Carey’s. But I appreciate her voice. Mariah is a fabulous singer.
    She is one of the big voices in music. She is one of the big sellers in music. She is one of the most important singers in music.

    As you probably recognized, I said she is “ONE OF THE”

    Because : Madonna is the biggest seller, she is the most important singers. But I accept she isn’t the most talented.
    Her voice is moderately.
    But Madonnas talent is: Dancing, Performing, Entertaining, producing and writing excellent music
    AND REINVENTION

    She is the chameleon of the POP Industry and nobody can beat her.
    She is already 51 and it’s weird to see any songs in the Charts WORLDWIDE, not just Asia or America.

    Whether children or old people.. everyone can associate Madonna with music.

    Madonna is the most successful female artist in history.

    THE END

  198. FOR MOFF says:

    Yeah Moff, again you are right.
    But Madonna songs are also very remembered and successful in the charts of hot dance of US and also many songs do very well in Asia.

    And like another user said, Madonna rules in sales, charts of songs, tours, etc…. in WHOLE AMERICAN CONTINENT, Europe, Oceania, Africa,etc…..

    But as Zac said before, chill out !

  199. Alexis says:

    Zac you are totally right, we need to chill out, what if Madonna beats Mariah in sales????
    That is not the most important…..the most important is what they convey to us with their music.
    Regarding for you Zac, you seem to be a cool person :)

    Now…..for the fan of Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus.

    Come on ?? We are talking about REAL SUCCESSFUL LEGENDS LIKE MADONNA, CELINE DION , WHITNEY HOUSTON, MARIAH CAREY who really will make part of music’s history, not about mediocre little stars who will disappear soon.
    And let me remind you that still Madonna is much more successful nowadays than Lady Gaga, want to prove it ?’ Perfect, just go and look for tour records (that is just one proof among many others that you will find)

  200. Alexis says:

    And about Miley Cyrus…….hahaha well, not even to mention her, without her character of Hannah Montana, she is nothing LMAO, she is not even nothing compared with Lady Gaga and if Lady Gaga is nothing compared to the Madonna’s works nowadays, just imagine Miley hahaha.
    Madonna sells much more nowadays than Miley Cyrus and Lady Gaga. Moreover, major part of the world hates Miley.
    And of course that Celine and Mariah keep on selling and they are not so old and they are much more memorable and real status of legends, don’t compare them with garbage like the little mediocre stars you mentioned before

  201. MOFF says:

    So I think everyone agrees with the last statements “Alexis” , “Zac” , Answering to Chris and Stephen” and “MOFF” has written.

    Everybody should enjoy their favorite artist. Whether Madonna or Mariah Carey.
    But Madonna is the more successful one.

    The topic is: “The Top Selling Female Artist Madonna Or Mariah Carey”

    And I think this is the End of the story, IT’S absolutely Madonna.

    And for the ones who want me to chill out.
    It makes me really angry when I still can hear somebody:
    Mariah is the best selling artist!

    So I just want the truth, and NOW I’m gonna chill out for u!

    Let me remember there are still persons thinking Mariah is the most successful.
    So Persons (like Jerry or Martha) : Madonna wins!

  202. Scott says:

    Okay,you’re right.Madonna is the best selling female artist on earth . She sold more albums than MC,but not Celine Dion and Nana Mouskouri.Celine has only 5 albums which sales exceeds 10 millions ,Mariah has 9. Celine’s albums sales Cath up with Mariah’s in 2003 and exceeds Mariah’s sales in 2004 Because of her 2002 release A new day has come which has big success.But since 2005,Mariah take back her supremacy with her worldwide success The Emancipation of Mimi which is seven times platinum in USA and sold more than 5 million worlwide (According recently by her label Island def jam). There are Celine sales :
    • 1983 till 1989 french albums ( released only in Quebec ) :1,2 million
    • Unison : 2 million
    • Celine Dion :3 million
    • Dion chante Plamondon :2,5 million
    • The colour of my love : 15 million
    • D’eux : 7,2 million
    • Failling into you : 30 million
    • Let’s talk about love : 30 million
    • These are special times : 8 million
    • S’il suffisait d’aimer : 4 million
    • All the way a decade of songs : 19 million
    • The collector serie : 0,6 million
    • A new day has come : 10 million
    • One heart : 4 million
    • Miracle : 3,5 million
    • On ne change pas : 0,7 million
    • Taking chances : 4,5 million
    • D’elles :0,4 million

    Mariah’s album sales are :
    • Mariah Carey : 17 million
    • Emotions : 13 million
    • MTV Unplugged EP : 11 million
    • Music Box : 31 million
    • Merry Christmas :16 million
    • Daydream : 25 million
    • Butterfly : 17 million
    • # 1’s : 19 million
    • Rainbow : 12 million
    • Valentine’s : 0,6 million
    • Greatest hits : 6 million
    • Glitter : 4 million
    • Charmbracelet : 4,5 million
    • The remixes : 1 million
    • The emancipation of Mimi : 12 million
    • E=MC 2 : 5 million
    • The Ballads : 0,8 million
    • Memoirs of imperfect angel : 0,5 million

    The top 10 of best selling female singers of the world is :
    1. Madonna 330 million
    2. Mariah Carey 255 million
    3. Celine Dion 230 million
    4. Nana Mouskouri 220 million
    5. Whitney Houston 200 million
    6. Cher 180 million
    7. Alla Puchagueva 175 million
    8. Janet Jackson 130 million
    9. Barbra Streisand 125 million
    10. Mireille Mathieu 120 million

  203. Chris & Stephen says:

    Guys ,don’t worry about what we wrote.We just wanted to express what we think true.We have nothing against Madonna .Take no account of what we wrote about Europeans and scandals,vulgarity,etc. Maybe Madonna sell more discs than Mariah,but don’t say that Celine and Nana Mouskouri sell more than Mariah,cause it’s wrong.As this forum is Madonna vs Mariah,we will not develop this part of Celine vs Mariah or nana,so just stay in the Madonna-Mariah match.

  204. Christy says:

    Mariah is the best-selling artist in Japan and she’s also supported by other Asian countries like Taiwan, Hong Kong,Singapore,South Korea,Philippines, etc…It’s true ,But Madonna is the best selling female artist ,I recognize it.I’m a Mariah,Whitney and Celine fan( I love songs from these ladies,their voices are so…so….so… !!!!)But I like some Madonna’s songs too like La isla Bonita,Secrets,Frozen,You’ll see ,etc.And stop saying that Madonna’s concert tickets sold better tan MC’s, or Madonna has fill stadiums worldwide easier than Mariah.We talking about albums and singles sales,not concert tickets sales .Stop to insult, revile each other of you,or the artists we talk about.We don’t promote our favorite artist like that.We’d better try to help the fans of other artists understand what we love in the work of our favorite artist and why.Maybe they could understand us better and might profit of our favorite artist’s work too.

  205. Scott says:

    Okay,you’re right.Madonna is the best selling female artist on earth . She sold more albums than MC,but not Celine Dion and Nana Mouskouri.Celine has only 5 albums which sales exceeds 10 millions ,Mariah has 9. Celine’s albums sales Cath up with Mariah’s in 2003 and exceeds Mariah’s sales in 2004 Because of her 2002 release A new day has come which has big success.But since 2005,Mariah take back her supremacy with her worldwide success The Emancipation of Mimi which is seven times platinum in USA and sold more than 5 million worlwide (According recently by her label Island def jam). There are Celine sales :
    • 1983 till 1989 french albums ( released only in Quebec ) :1,2 million
    • Unison : 2 million
    • Celine Dion :3 million
    • Dion chante Plamondon :2,5 million
    • The colour of my love : 15 million
    • D’eux : 7,2 million
    • Failling into you : 30 million
    • Let’s talk about love : 30 million
    • These are special times : 8 million
    • S’il suffisait d’aimer : 4 million
    • All the way a decade of songs : 19 million
    • The collector serie : 0,6 million
    • A new day has come : 10 million
    • One heart : 4 million
    • Miracle : 3,5 million
    • On ne change pas : 0,7 million
    • Taking chances : 4,5 million
    • D’elles :0,4 million

    Mariah’s album sales are :
    • Mariah Carey : 17 million
    • Emotions : 13 million
    • MTV Unplugged EP : 11 million
    • Music Box : 31 million
    • Merry Christmas :16 million
    • Daydream : 25 million
    • Butterfly : 17 million
    • # 1’s : 19 million
    • Rainbow : 12 million
    • Valentine’s : 0,6 million
    • Greatest hits : 6 million
    • Glitter : 4 million
    • Charmbracelet : 4,5 million
    • The remixes : 1 million
    • The emancipation of Mimi : 12 million
    • E=MC 2 : 5 million
    • The Ballads : 0,8 million
    • Memoirs of imperfect angel : 0,5 million

    The top 10 of best selling female singers of the world is :
    1. Madonna 330 million
    2. Mariah Carey 255 million
    3. Celine Dion 230 million
    4. Nana Mouskouri 220 million
    5. Whitney Houston 200 million
    6. Cher 180 million
    7. Alla Puchagueva 175 million
    8. Janet Jackson 130 million
    9. Barbra Streisand 125 million
    10. Mireille Mathieu

  206. Stephen & Chris says:

    Guys ,don’t worry about what we wrote.We just wanted to express what we think true.We have nothing against Madonna .Take no account of what we wrote about Europeans and scandals,vulgarity,etc. Maybe Madonna sell more discs than Mariah,but don’t say that Celine and Nana Mouskouri sell more than Mariah,cause it’s wrong.As this forum is Madonna vs Mariah,we will not develop this part of Celine vs Mariah or nana, so just stay in the Madonna-Mariah match

  207. MOFF says:

    Hey,

    Maybe somebody should open a new debate:

    Madonna is the best selling female artist. But who is second and third? Why not?

    Whatever, Where did you get this information:
    2. Mariah Carey 255 million
    3. Celine Dion 230 million
    4. Nana Mouskouri 220 million
    5. Whitney Houston 200 million
    6. Cher 180 million
    7. Alla Puchagueva 175 million
    8. Janet Jackson 130 million
    9. Barbra Streisand 125 million
    10. Mireille Mathieu

    Where is Tina Turner? And Where is Donna Summer?
    They have both sold over 130 million records!

  208. Alexis says:

    Now I see that Chris & Stephen recognize that Madonna sells more discs than Mariah, you see ? Now you accept it because the one who answered to you did it with tools and support for his/her arguments.
    It’s not good speaking without supported arguments just as you did guys, but it’s ok :D
    Maybe we should discuss about sales of tickets because we were talking about albums, but still Madonna sold and keep on selling more discs than Mariah Carey.
    But as I said before, that is not the real important thing, but what they convey to us.

    Madonna is the queen of pop ? OF COURSE!! NO QUESTION ABOUT IT !!

    But I should call Mariah Carey :

    The queen of R&B ^^

  209. MOFF says:

    Alexis I think you’re right.

    Madonna is the Queen Of Pop, the most successful female singer of all time. Whether RnB, Hip Hop or whatever.

    And the Queen of RnB is Mariah probably.

    So we found the solution: Madonna is the best selling female artist

  210. Alexis says:

    Yes Moff, everybody (or at least almost everybody) in all around the world knows perfectly well that Madonna is the highest selling female artist, as well as the most successful and famous female artist of all time.
    I think it’s all right, she deserved it and now she has been that for many years and is still like that.
    Long live the queen :D

    Anyway, I also love another female artist, such as Janet Jackson, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Britney, Lady gaga, Beyonce. Because even though Madonna beats them all in sales, success, popularity, fame and importance, I think that those women are really gorgeous artists and GREAT ENTERTAINERS :D:D:D

  211. Jason says:

    I agree with you,Madonna is the Best-selling female artist of all times.She’s the queen of Pop and Mariah Carey is the queen of R&B .Moreover,Mariah is the best female singer of the world ( not just on a genre of music but on music in general ) for many reasons:
    1. Mariah is one of the best-selling female artist of all times ( second just behind Madonna)in just 20 years of career.
    2. She have a God-given talent for singing.She master’s all genres and kind of music that she touch.She perform with ability Pop, Ballads, Traditional R&B, Contemporary R&B, Rap, Gospel, Soul, Dance, techno, Pop-Rock, etc).
    3. She got a beautiful and gorgeous voice,ranked first between the bests.
    4. She got the widest vocal range ever (5 octaves),whom allow her to differentiate her music with any other artists.Someone wrote that Celine also have 5 octaves and just don’t use the whistle register,but as we know it,it’s false and that’s a big lie.Celine has 2,8 octaves,Whitney had 3 octaves (at her best in the 1980’s and 1990’s),Christina Aguilera had close to 4 octaves ( although nothing proves it in her songs and performances) .Moreover,contrary to the other vocalists,Mariah can sing entirely on the highest register (do not confound with the high notes of whistle register) not just a word or a phrase but a whole song. For example,Celine rise her voice Just on the words ‘love’ (at the end of her song The Power of love) Or ‘myself anymore’ (at the end of All by myself) The reason(at the last part of The reason),only Mariah is able to sing a whole song on this same high vocal level (with obviously short changes of vocal level) .listen Emotions,Mine Again,Circles,Fantasy, Your girl, Now that I know and you’ll know what I’m talking about, Mariah’s voice is the most powerful voice ever.
    5. Mariah Carey received numerous awards in her entirely career
    6. She’s accomplished many philanthropic actions.
    7. She’s beautiful,glamorous,sexy and graceful
    8. She’s one of most influential artists of all times( her music style had influenced many artists )
    9. She’s one of most respected singers and is a model of perfection for many and many people.
    10. She have many hit songs worldwide (although not the most )
    11. She’s very popular worldwide (although not the most)
    12. She had wrote, produce and compose close to 90 % of her material.
    13. She’s the third richest female singer of the world
    14. Even the other great vocalists like Whitney Houston and Celine Dion couldn’t perform most of Mariah’s songs .However,Mariah could sing any song from any female artist.
    Definitively,she’s the best artistically (not commercially).

  212. Francois says:

    You’re right,Jason,and your reasoning is good.But,I don’t agree with much of other reactions and commentaries.So,I want to reply to some commentaries on this topic ‘cause I read all of them(some of them tell that Mariah is a payola artist,she manipulated US charts to lead, some tell that she’s nothing out of US, she’s a wannabe star,she’s a local star,others tell she’s a zero artist,her music is boring,she’s failed in music ,she’s over period , some others distort her name,writing Cowriah, etc…).And now,to reply directly to some of commentaries: Mariah is a singing artist ,Madonna is a singing businesswoman.Mariah sings above of all to do something beautiful,amazing,fineness and of high quality,Madonna sings to do something lucrative that people could like easily.It’s that what she always shock people through her music.Since her debut,she had the need to selfish people for attract them to buy her music,because it was the only way to her to attract people and sell albums.Besides ,this make her music more funny and finally win the sympathy of many people.they get loving to be selfish and Madonna give it to them.And as we know it ,sexual shocks are most attractive than the greatest beauty and refinement for many people.This is the reason by which Madonna is the best-selling female artist,and also most lucrative female artist, contrary to Mariah whom voice ,talent ,artistry and sing ability were the reasons of her success.Without forgetting that most of people don’t like R&B music,but Pop music (they claim that beauty of Mariah’s voice declined in 2000’s and make her albums boring) but it’s false.All of those who know Mariah’s music know that her voice just get more maturity and lost it 1990’s youthfulness,Also , Mariah’s singing style is lightly modify .However,her voice still very beautiful,powerful,sensual,versatile and stay the best female voice ever ( you should listen between many others Loverboy,Want you,Through the rain,Fly like a bird,I wish you knew,Circles,Migrate,I’ll be lovin’ you longtime,I want to know what love is… more attentively).
    To those of you who wrote that Mariah is a PAYOLA singer ,that she manipulated charts to lead,I answer that Madonna most seems to be a payola singer than Mariah because of her multiple scandals.why not this To help her music career?Moreover,we can easily imagine her debut in music,needing to break through in music .I even don’t need to tell more on it,you understand.Cause if you can assert that Mariah is a payola singer,how much more can we maintain what we said of Madonna? It would be most credible to everyone than any lie you could write on Mariah Carey.To the one of you who wrote that Mariah is a zero artist in Europe,And so what ? Madonna is a less than a zero artist in Asia. Don’t confound Europe with The Whole World. Moreover,Mariah would as big as Madonna on this continent if she made Pop albums instead of R&B.Since her R&B orientation,her popularity failed in Europe.To the one who wrote that Mariah is nothing in Europe,Madonna is neither in Asia.Some of you wrote that Madonna hits are most popular worldwide than Mariah’s,but it’s wrong.It’s just in Europe that her hit songs are most popular than Mariah’s.In Asia,Mariah’s hit songs are most popular.See? If you take USA/Asia Mariah’s most popular hit songs and compare them with Europe/USA Madonna’s hits,You’ll see that there is any difference. For the rest of the world( Canada, Africa,Latin America and Oceania )whom represents the smallest part of world disc market,Madonna get advantage with a thin difference,maybe because of her oldness and her massive saturation media coverage worldwide.But,in west indies ,Mariah is the queen.Besides,to the one who said that America isn’t the largest market of whole world,I answer that it is.otherwise,it was before the 2000 decade,when Mariah & Madonna’s sales were very impressive (1980’s and 1990’s)and their hits songs much numerous( as we know it,2000’s are the poorest decade for the great singers of preceding decades). To those who write that Madonna is a better entertainer than Mariah,I answer that it’s only because of her spectacular shows and her pop style.It’s easier to entertain people in great numbers ( on concerts and other live shows) on pop and dance music than R&B music.This is because most of people don’t really like R&B Music ,and didn’t experienced it.They want to dance above of all. But,they can’t dance R&B/rap music because it doesn’t dance the same way than pop music.They feel most comfortable on dancing pop and dance music.Then,it’s not a incompetence or inability from Mariah Carey,but a result of people’s choice and their way of seeing things..Anyway,it’s easier to entertain people with making spectacular , funny, great-organized shows and concerts(with a few imagination,which artist couldn’t? only money could stop them )than the opposite.It’s once again why Madonna sells her concert tickets better than Mariah worldwide.To the one who wrote that most Mariah’s hits are not solo effects,It’s a lie .Only 3 of her 18 # 1 hits are featured.To the one who said that Mariah is a slut,I’ll just say don’t lie to himself cause who can be a slut compared with Madonna?! Everyone know it.To the one who wrote that even Celine sales surpassed Mariah’s sales,I reply That this lie is obvious to everyone and that he never could prove it.To reply another one who claim that even our grandpa,grandma,little children,etc have heard of Madonna,I reply that’s possible and then? As I explained it ,she’s very famous not only because of her music .And there is a difference between heard of an artist and appreciate the work of an artist. She also have 27 years of career,Mariah have just 20.To those whom said that Madonna is the queen of reinvention Moreover,Those of you whom said that Mariah’s music is boring,you’re so retarded that you even know that It’s just your opinion?! What would you say of million of people thinking the opposite?And the one who wrote that Celine Dion’s French album “d’eux” has sold 9 million copies worldwide lies,it’s sold 7,6 million copies worldwide (I’m from France and know what I talk about ).Besides,Celine sold 60 million of two albums,not 63 million.Madonna has won 7 Grammy and was nominated for 29 in 27 years of career,Mariah won 5 Grammy and nominated for 29 in 20 years of career,Mariah get 17 World Music Awards(more than any artist),Madonna get 1.And to those of you who wrote that Mariah is a zero artist in Europe,it’s false.She’s a great singer in this continent,not on her sales and her hits,but in the heart of people.why do you think , on the talent search shows,like X factor or American Idol ,people try to sing Mariah Carey songs all the time,and never try to sing Madonna songs?Do you think that they would try performing songs from a zero artist to compete on talent searching shows ?And if some of you can read a few of French language,go in French blogs and Forums matching Mariah and Madonna,you’ll see that Mariah got more than 70 % of positive reactions.And she also got the best and more convincing arguments.Just to show you that sales are important,but aren’t all and everything.Finally,to all of you whom write that Mariah is a wannabe star,a local star, a self-proclaimed diva,and deform her name,I’ll just say that you are so stupid and petty , you forget that Mariah Carey is one of 5 greatest female artists of all times.In fact,how many female artist do you think will able to achieve what Mariah achieve in just 20 years ? Whom ? Rihanna? Kelly Clarkson? Shakira? Jessica Simpson? Lady Gaga? You see? Even Britney Spears, Beyonce Knowles and Christina Aguilera couldn’t.In just 11 years of career,she sold more than 150 million albums worldwide and in 20,more than 200 million ( without counting of singles sales).this is what you call a wannabe superstar or a self-proclaimed diva?Moreover,Mariah never had the need to attract people with her beauty ,her body, and use trick,artifice or ruse to sale her albums better.Her talent is all her merit.All that she do,she do it by love and fun of it.Even when they cause a discount of her sales.How many of those female artists do you think would able to compete for world title of best-selling female artist,best female voice ,or best musical career ? Your stupidity makes you wrong and unable to write anything than lies to defend your idol Madonna.But we recognize that Madonna is the best-selling female artist of all times,and we know that it doesn’t mean she’s the best female singer or the greatest female artist of all times.
    As a huge fan of Mariah Carey, I have nothing against Madonna and her music( you won’t believe it but I’m a fan of her and have some of her albums),but just against some of her fans because of what they wrote of Mariah Carey.Don’t forget,we agree that Madonna is the best-selling female artist of the world,she’s a great artist too,but some of her fans are ***#*@!!!
    I won’t apologize for my writing errors cause I’m a French language person.

  213. Martha says:

    Guys, please don’t say that Madonna is the best-selling female recording artist of all times as if that mean she’s the best female artist of all times. She’s so far from it.
    -The true best female singer should have more than an average voice.
    – The true best female singer must attract fans and music lovers by her voice and her talent before remainder.
    -The true best female singer should be gorgeous and sexy without pass too much boundaries and crudeness.
    -The true best female singer should have ability to write,produce,arrange and performing her own songs.But also to perform and awake few old others artists hits,and make them more beautiful and successful than before.
    -The real best female singer should can sing anything. ( For example,Mariah Carey could sing easier all songs of Madonna, but Madonna couldn’t sing even easiest Mariah’s songs.)
    -The real biggest diva should amaze art critics and musical experts by her talents, not only amateur music lovers and fans by her provocations,scandals and eccentricities shows.
    In accordance with you,among all songstresses do you know,whom better correspond to these points?
    Who can beat Mariah on those points ?
    So, I agree Madonna is the best-selling female recording artist of all times.But , Mariah Carey is the best female artist of all times.

  214. Becky says:

    Becky
    At last,most people around the world agree with these :

    Best-selling female artists 1-Madonna
    2-Mariah Carey
    3-Celine Dion
    4-Whitney Houston

    Best female vocalists : 1-Mariah Carey
    2-Whitney Houston
    3-Celine Dion

  215. Michelle says:

    Bravo,François!And as Maria Callas said,it’s inconvenient to compare Champagne with Soda.At first taste,champagne seems boring and tasteless compared to sugary soda.But,it much greater than any soda when you used to relish it.Mariah Carey,Whitney Houston,Celine Dion,Barbra Streisand,Christina Aguilera ,Kelly Clarkson and Leona Lewis are Champagne next to Madonna,Janet Jackson,Britney Spears,Jennifer Lopez (in music of course),Shakira, Rihanna and Lady Gaga ,whom are Sodas.Madonna and the other soda pop ladies may be most entertaining and funny,their songs may seems like more attractive at first sight than the Champagne’s ladies and more sugary.But,Champagne ladies have more merit and value because their performances give deeper ,stronger emotional effects,and for much longer duration.Songs from these ladies are timeless and have the ability to raise up great and deep emotions and to touch mind,which songs are much more difficult to do and perform than simple songs which just make dance people.Madonna is the most successful ,and the best-selling soda among all others.

  216. Stacy says:

    Stacy
    You are right at 100%.Anyone can dream of become a singer like Madonna ( without including her level of success which depend on luck),Janet Jackson and all other soda girls,but cannot for Mariah Carey,Whitney Houston and Celine Dion (Champagne Ladies) Because He/she must to have talent above of all.Although I recognize Madonna,Janet,Jennifer LO and others as good and great singers.

  217. Meloni says:

    All right, for the ones who posted that Madonna is nothing in Asia, you are wrong, come on, Madonna causes a lot of sensation when she goes to tour there more than Mariah.
    And don’t say is because of the show and bla bla bla…….that is not the complete reason, Mariah also made great shows and amazing things in her tour, but she didn’t sell out.

    And don’t say that Mariah is champagne, etc…. because even though she has the best voice, a good voice makes no a real artist.

    Many people always say that sex is bad, bla bla , sex sells, etc…. but actually, there are lots of ways to express the feelings not only by ballads and high notes.
    If you have a great vocal ability, but if you don0’t have the gift to transmit to the audience the feelings that are in the songs, you won’t make it.

    Madonna sells more not because she is a good entertainer or a pop music, you just said that because now that is proved that she beats Mariah in sales, now you are gonna say another things like this that are not so valuable neither, that is just your point of view.

    Again the excuse that Madonna has 7 years more of career……….exactly, she has 7 years more of career and she has more than 150 million albums on advantage over Mariah Carey in sales, and that for just 7 years of difference is a lot.

    That proves that even though Mariah and Madonna had the same time of career, Madonna would also win.
    And Mariah was not huge never in Europe.

    And come on……..don’t say all Asia is the whole world and see what you do………you say Europe is not the whole world, Latin America, Oceania are smallest,etc….. so ??
    Asia has only a few powerful countries, most of the countries there are even a smallest part of the markets than Europe, Latin America, etc……

    Madonna is the queen in American continent, Europe, Oceania, Africa (don’t discriminate) and when she tours in Asia, her presence is much more important than Mariah’s presence. And that about Mariah is queen of Asia, is not true, moreover if it was true, that would be just in western part of Asia, because in the other side of Asia like Israel, Asian part of Russia, la India, etc…. There Madonna also rules.
    So, I’m sorry but the winner is Madonna

    And what Jason and Francois said about payola of Madonna has not even sense.

  218. MUSTAFA says:

    Madonna 9,5 Million
    Like a Virgin 20,6 Million
    True Blue 23,5 Million
    Who’s that girl 5,6 Million
    You can dance 6 Million
    Like a Prayer 15 Million
    I’m Breathless 6,8 Million
    The Immaculate Collection 26,5 Million
    Erotica 6,1 Million
    Bedtime Stories 8 Million
    Something to Remember 9 Million
    Evita 10 Million
    Ray Of Light 17 Million
    Music 14,3 Million
    GHV2 6,5 Million
    American Life 4,6 Million
    Remixed and Revisited 1,1 Million
    Confessions On A Dance floor 10,2 Million
    I’m Going to Tel You A Secret 1,5 Million
    The Confessions Tour 1,8 Million
    Hard Candy 3,5 Million
    Celebration 1,5 Million
    Total: 208,6 Million

  219. MUSTAFA says:

    Mariah Carey 15,2 Mio.
    Emotions 9,4 Mio.
    MTV Unplugged 7,5 Mio.
    Music Box 28,5 Mio.
    Merry Christmas 14,2 Mio.
    Daydream 24 Mio.
    Butterfly 12,6 Mio.
    Number 1s 16 Mio.
    Rainbow 9,2 Mio.
    Glitter 2,5 Mio.
    Greatest Hit’s 4 Mio.
    Charmbracelt 3,5 Mio.
    The Remixes 0, 6 Mio.
    The Emancipation of Mimi 9,5 Mio.
    E= mc² 2 Mio.
    The Ballads 0.12 Mio.
    Memoirs of an imperfect Angel 0,5
    TOTAL: 160,5 Mill.

  220. MUSTAFA says:

    Unision 4 Mio.
    Celine Dion 6 Mio.
    The Colour Of My love 19, 5 Mio.
    Falling into you 31, 3 Mio.
    Let’s Talk about Love 31 Mio.
    There Are special Times 11 Mio.
    All The way….. the decade of songs 22 Mio.
    The collectors Series. Volume One 3 Mio.
    A New day has come 11 Mio.
    One Heart 5 Mio.
    A New Day… Live in Las Vegas 1, 5 Mio.
    Miracle 2, 5 Mio.
    Taking Chances 3, 5 Mio.
    My Love: Essential Collection 1, 5 Mio.
    Total: 152, 8 Mill.

    + french Albums (more than 15): 25 Mill.

    Total: 178 Mill

    2009: 200 Mill

  221. Hi my friend MUSTAFA says:

    Mustaffa, I guess you are trying to be clear who is the best selling but you have many wrong facts about sales.
    There are many sales that are from too old information or not real.

    Please give us your sources.

  222. MUSTAFA says:

    8notes.com/biographies/carey.asp
    economicexpert.com/a/Mariah:Carey.html

    I chose average data.

  223. Charice says:

    And all these talk without even noticing the rise of Lady Gaga!

    Hail to the new Queen of Pop!

  224. Alexis says:

    Hahahahaha Lady Gaga the new queen of pop ? hahahaha, if she was the new queen and the new super star, we would be talking and thinking the same as you LOL, which doesn’t happen.

    Here we are talking about real legends that are already part of history of music, such as Madonna, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston,etc…..

    Not about crap and little stars who will disappear in a while and doesn’t transcend and won’t make any part of history in music.

    So get out of here Charice

  225. Martha says:

    Mustafa, don’t lie to us ,Celine is so far to sale that you say.You are a big liar. Celine can’t compare to Mariah and Madonna sales. Stop your lies,its bad.

  226. Stacy says:

    Mustafa is a biggest liar.

  227. Martha says:

    Mustafa ,these figures sales are falsified.Your sources lies or make a big mistake.Because :
    1- It would make of Celine Dion the best-selling artist of the 1990’s.But it’s not a fact.Mariah Carey is the best-selling artist of 1990 decade and totaled more albums sold than any other artist in this decade.

    2-All Celine’s figures sales are increased,then all Mariah’s are exaggeratedly diminished.

    3- Mariah Carey have 10 albums which sales worldwide exceeds 10 million units, Celine have just 5 .

    4- In the 200 decade, as for Mariah,Celine got one hit album ( A new day has come) sold at 10 million units worldwide. Mariah Carey smash hit album ( The emancipation of Mimi) sold more than 12 million units worldwide (on which 7 million just for America).

  228. Morn says:

    Martha, there are some sales you wrote of Celine that are a total mistake.
    Celine Dion sold more than 20 million copies worldwide with “The Coulour of my love”, “Falling into you” sold more than 32 million copies, “Let’s talk about love” sold more than 31 million copies, “A new day has come” has sold more than 12 million copies.

    I agree with you that Celine is not the biggest selling artist of all time.
    And actually are no real sources and not a lot of security to know has sold more, whether Celine or Mariah.

    And about Madonna, mmm yeah…..even though I’m not a fan of her, I must accept that she is the number one selling female artist of history in all the world (yeah and with more than 380 million albums sold, or more ? I don’t know…..but I already knew that, good 4 Madonna)
    But I prefer Whitney Houston by far

  229. A fact says:

    Madonna is the best- selling female artist.

    link simpleindulgence-learnmakeup.blogspot.com/

  230. A Hard Fact says:

    Madonna according to mediatraffic > simpleindulgence-learnmakeup.blogspot.com/2010/04/fact-madonna-is-best-selling-female.html

  231. MUSTAFA says:

    Yeah.
    I know these sales are not correct.
    But you must be honestly, these sales are approximately right. It doesn’t matter whether The Colour of my love has sold over 20 million or 19,5… whatever!

    And actually, some sources say Ray of light has sold over 20.. but I wrote 17.. so actually you have to make a difference of 1-2 million or sometimes 1-5 million copies. So you must be pleased with that.

    In your opinion, I want you to write the sales here, that YOU think it’s right.

    These are estimated sales.. but it’s correct. Celine is the biggest ALBUMS SELLER of the 90s. TOTAL SALES artist is MARIAH CAREY.

    But overall, it’s Madonna

    And I want you not to call me “Liar” only because I have difference of few million…

  232. Jason says:

    Mustafa,your sources are wrong.Celine’s albums sales doesn’t surpassed Mariah’s, specially in the 1990’s.Mariah Carey is the best-selling artist of the 1990’s.Mariah Carey ‘s albums sales surpassed 150 million since 2001,well,your source assert 142.Moreover,the 150 million albums sales would be without adding the increase of sales to albums since this time till today,which approximately would reach 10 million at least.Besides,all Mariah Carey albums are diminished on these figures ,and all Celine’s are increased.For example,the eponymous Mariah’s debut album MARIAH CAREY were more successful than Celine’s The Colour Of My Love and sold more .But according to your source ,it’s the opposite.Nevertheless,MARIAH CAREY was certified 9 times platinum(9 million units sold, just in USA) since early 2007.And it’s one of Mariah’s most popular albums worldwide.Most of Celine’s albums were flopped,except for 7 ,among more than 30.The sales of her 1980’s French albums are useless ( sold only in her native Quebec,where even the sales of her 5 smash hit albums are not significant ).Her best-selling French album d’eux reached 7 million units sold worldwide( Go on D’EUX,THE FRENCH ALBUM,CELINE DION Wikipedia) .Mariah Carey is the one who got 10 albums surpassing 10 million sales since 2008,we used to know it.Celine really begun to compete on success with the other great female artists ( Mariah Carey,Madonna,Whitney Houston,etc) since 1993 with her release The Colour Of My Love. Merry Christmas sold at more than 16 million,not at 14,2 million and it’s the best selling Christmas album of all times by a female artist .And I could carry on with proving that your source is wrong.Moreover,I don’t understand something on your figures sales: for Mariah,the total is 160,5 million and that’s all.For Celine,the total is 178 million and you add “ 2009 : 200” million,what it’s mean? Can you explain this? It’s a proof among all others showing that your sources lies and are subjective.In fact,why Celine’s sales would increased in 2009 while Mariah’s stay the same? that ‘doesn’t seems clearly subjective ? Moreover, just putting together the total of all Celine’s French albums sales is not credible at all .Your sources can’t make it.

  233. Francois says:

    Meloni
    First,it’s normal that you say that my reply about payola’s accusation on Mariah have no sense because you’re a Madonna fan.Your judgement would be right only if you recognized that the ones who wrote first that Mariah is a payola artist were wrong.And what you said about our acceptance of Madonna’s sales supremacy don’t surprised me.But it seems like you don’t understand .Madonna’s fans confuse best-selling female artist with best female singer so,we explained that it doesn’t mean the same . Successful singer doesn’t mean good singer or good artist,but lucrative artist.However,great talent combined with good voice mean good singer and good artist.That’s why the title would be “ best female singer” and no “ most successful female of musical show-business”.The most important here is the artistic aspect,not the commercial.
    And you assert that Madonna get more than 150 million albums on advantage over Mariah’s sales,but it’s wrong.Madonna got on maximum 50 million discs on advantage over Mariah Carey’s sales.And even though the both had the same time of career,Madonna wouldn’t win.For example,for her 11 first years of career,Mariah Carey sold more than 150 million albums.On her 11 first years of career (1983-1994),Madonna sold less than 125 million albums (calculate it).Her 7 years more of career doesn’t worth 150 million,but 50 million.Anywhere on truthful and objective sources ,you could find between Madonna’s and Mariah’s sales a difference surpassing 50 millions.Because between many other reasons,that’s couldn’t proving in accordance with Madonna’s sales.Unless they ‘d falsify her album sales with increase it exaggeratedly,then it could be.

  234. Michelle says:

    Meloni
    First,I don’t discriminate on sayin’ Oceania,Canada,Africa and Latin America are smallest part of world’s music market,I just tell the truth, the same way you tell that Asia had a few powerful countries and they blab la bla….Moreover,Mariah is the second best-selling American female artist in Canada and in Australia.And I don’t said that Asia is the whole world,but that only Europe doesn’t.Well,Asia don’t have only a few of powerful countries,but a lot.Moreover,Japan is the second largest music market of the world ( see Wikipedia list of best-selling singles in Japan ).So,Asian music market is very huge. Mariah is also the best- selling western artist in China who is the third economic power of the world.And come on,Taiwan,Japan,Hong Kong,South Korea,North Korea,Singapore,China,Philippines,…and Mariah get advantage over Madonna in the rest of Asian countries .Besides,the difference between Madonna’s and Mariah’s sales in Latin America,Africa and Oceania is not as significant as in Europe.

  235. Martha says:

    Dear Morn and Mustafa,don’t you ever knew during all the past years by worldwide music mediatization and news, that Mariah Carey is the best-selling artist from 1990 decade? Everyone know this fact,even the most amateur music lovers and fans .Your point of view is so paradoxical.
    Why you don’t recognize that Mariah Carey sales are most important than Celine Dion’s ?
    It’s useless to diminish the true Mariah Carey’s sales and increase the real sales of Celine Dion, you must respect the real facts. Whatever figure sales you claim for Celine Dion,the fact is that Mariah Carey sales surpass it.The 1990’s are the most significant decade for those both artists on sales and Mariah has the advantaged.So ,she wins.
    It’s not by random that people face Madonna versus Mariah Carey at title of “THE BEST-SELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES “.It’s because everyone know the both as the biggest selling female artists worldwide.From the worldwide sales, Madonna is the # 1 , Mariah Carey is the # 2 and Celine Dion is the # 3 behind Mariah Carey.No question about it,and don’t basing you on subjective sites to opposite these facts that everyone used to know.

  236. Meloni says:

    Francois:

    I never said that the ones who said that Mariah was a payola were right, both are wrong if they say that Mariah or Madonna use payola.
    So, my judgement is right, and you must be the one who isn’t right at all, and obviously you are a Mariah Carey fan.
    And for you may be most important the talent and the great voice, etc….. but guess what ???
    The title of this entry is “who is the best selling artist” and that is Madonna.

    And come on, according to Guinness Book of records, Forbes, IFPI, RIAA, etc….. have published many times that Madonna has sold more than 380 million albums, and as well as IFPI and WMA, even Sony published that Mariah sold more than 180 million albums……… so obviously I’m wrong saying that Madonna has 150 million albums on advantage over Mariah, she has 200 million over Mariah.

    And is not 50 million only as you said.

    What you are saying is not truth (as always)…….it’s known that Mariah Carey sales are ones.

    And I never said that Madonna’s 7 years of difference were 150 million over, I’m speaking about GENERAL.

    Another lie of yours, Madonna had already sold much more than 140 million AND WITH LESS STUDIO ALBUMS RECORDED.

    It’s easy for you to say “calculate it” but you have your account of sales, and I have mine right ? And it seems clearly that you are paying tricks:

    “And you assert that Madonna get more than 150 million albums on advantage over Mariah’s sales,but it’s wrong.Madonna got on maximum 50 million discs on advantage over Mariah Carey’s sales.And even though the both had the same time of career,Madonna wouldn’t win.For example,for her 11 first years of career,Mariah Carey sold more than 150 million albums.On her 11 first years of career (1983-1994),Madonna sold less than 125 million albums (calculate it).Her 7 years more of career doesn’t worth 150 million,but 50 million.Anywhere on truthful and objective sources ,you could find between Madonna’s and Mariah’s sales a difference surpassing 50 millions”

    I AM NOT SPEAKING ABOUT 7 YEARS NOW, I AM SPEAKING ABOUT GENERAL….. AND YOU ARE MIXING THINGS.

    Why do you play tricks ??? Because you are a Mariah Carey fan and you will try to make her win right ? But anyway, you comment is not validate.

    You should calculate that Madonna in her first 11 years of career had just less studio albums recorded.

    Now you are saying, truthful and objective sources……….

    IFPI, RIAA, GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS, FORBES, WARNER BROS IC. etc……..
    So those are untruthful and no objective right ???

    See, what you said to me is untruthful and no objective, sorry.

  237. Meloni says:

    MICHELLE:

    First, when I said don’t discriminate I was meaning “Africa” because once another lamb said that Africa is not important because people there are died of hungry and black……….doesn’t it sound like discrimination ??? So, maybe you didn’t want to do so, but I just posted it in order that nobody else try to do it.

    And you are not telling the truth at all, moreover you also try to play some tricks and don’t give specific facts (or well….maybe you wrote 2 fast).

    Mariah is not the second female artist in Canada and Australia as far as I remember……..I cannot speak too much about that because I don’t know 2 much about it, but is also known that Madonna is the #1 selling female and successful American artist in Canada, Australia….as well as in another countries…..anyway…..

    You say that China is the third economic power..well said ! is truth…….and Japan is a so large market as well as USA…………….BUT GUESS WHAT ???
    Even though it sounds hurtful….the markets are huge, excellent !!! But THAT DOES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTIST!!! …..the market is huge, very nice, but what about the artist ??? Nope, the artist may be or not huge, and guess what, Mariah is not huge enough in Asia for surpass Madonna in the rest of the world (Europe, Oceania, Latin America, etc…) Madonna in other continents has sold much more than Mariah Carey in Asia and in another continents…………Mariah sold more than Madonna in those parts of Asia…………..but NOT ENTIRE ASIA.
    The Asian parts of Russia, Israel, La India, and other countries closer to Europe, guess what ??? Madonna beats Mariah Carey there.

    Besides, that is not truth what you said that the difference in Mariah and Madonna sales is not big in Oceania, Africa and Latin America ??????
    HUGE LIE I should say, because Madonna has a lot of difference in advantage over Mariah Carey, moreover, Mariah Carey in Latin America is not even so popular, millions of Latin Americans don’t even know her….You don’t even have great sources ti prove that Mariah is huge there, in the other hand, go and search about Madonna in those places, you’ll find out that Madonna also wins there by a lot.

    PD: Maybe Mariah sold more in those parts of Asia that you have mentioned…..but WHY MADONNA HAS MUCH MORE POSITIVE SENSATION AND HAVE MUCH MORE CROWD WHEN SHE VISITS ASIA, MORE THAN MARIAH…..don’t tell me because of her show, because of sex sells, etc…. bla bla bla, post real facts.

    So, see ?? What you said about the importance of markets is NOT VALIDATE AT ALL pal.
    Because the importance of a market has nothing to do with the artist….ok the market is big, but the artist ?? mmm who knows?….and guess what ? Mariah is not huge, at least Madonna is much bigger in Oceania, Canada, Latin America, Europe than Mariah Carey in Asia and in another continents….see ? you are mixing a headache with a soda.
    And not because Asia has a big size and because their countries are the most important in economy…….that does not mean those are the most important music markets in music business, because actually Europe and other parts of America even though are smaller have much more importance in music business.

    So, excuse me but what you said is not validate at all, at least what I post is more validate.

    Madonna wins, why cannot you accept that , huh ??

  238. Meloni says:

    Francois:

    Also what you have posted is not validate at all.

    You are saying lies as a typical Mariah fan.

    And truthful and objective sources are Guiness book, RIAA, IFPI, Warner Bros, inc, Forbes, etc….

    that’s where I supported my facts, what about you ??

    and I never said that Mariah used payola, but Madonna neither.

  239. Meloni says:

    FRANCOIS:

    And actually, Madonna sold much more than what you posted about her in her first 11 years of career, it’s easy to tell me that I must calculate, when actually you need to calculate because you have made more mistakes than me.
    And when I was saying that Madonna had more than 150 million albums on advantage, I was speaking IN GENERAL, not in 7 years…..Anyway, Madonna had much more achievements, success and sell than Mariah in her first years.

    And you are mixing a lot 50 million with 7 years, and 150 million in seven years, etc………That seems that you are playing tricks, but don’t try to confuse me…. because you won’t get it.
    What can I expect from a Mariah Carey fan ? obviously you post lies because you ar a Mariah fan with no real arguments.

    And maybe for you the most important is who’s the best singer, etc….. but this topic is who is the best selling ….and that is Madonna by far.

    Maybe I was wrong posting that Madonna had 150 million in advantage over Mariah, because according to WMA, IFPI, RIAA, Mariah sold more than 180 million albums….And according to IFPI, RIAA, FORBES, GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS, WARNER BROS. INC, etc…. Madonna have sold more than 380 million albums.

    So, Madonna has no 150 million on advantage over Mariah, but she has 200 million on advantage over Mariah (IN ALL THE YEARS THEY HAVE OF CAREER), but any way….Madonna achieved more in 80s than Mariah in 90s.
    And Madonna didn’t receive diamond award and millennium award because she doesn’t need them and she has said lots of times before that she would never accept those types of awards. Anyway, those awards were not enough for Mariah to be accepted as the biggest selling ? what a shame.
    Madonna is accepted by majorities as that and didn’t need those awards to prove it.

    You said that my sources are no objective and no true.

    IFPI, GUINNESS, RIAA, FORBES, etc….. are untruthful and not objective, huh ? well……show me then which are the most valuable sources.

    At least what I posted is much more valuable than your comment.

    Madonna wins, sorry.

  240. Nicholas says:

    I am a huge Mariah Carey fan but must admit that what is said about Madonna is the biggest selling female artist is true.

    Any way, I don’t consider it the most important thing, but my mates (lambs) should accept that Madonna wins when it comes about sales and records.

    BUT FOR ME, MARIAH IS THE QUEEN OF POP, R&B AND OF MUSIC !!!!!

  241. MOFF says:

    which songs do you prefer?

    Touch my body – 4 minutes
    We belong together – Like a prayer
    Fantasy – Papa don’t preach
    Heartbreaker – Vogue
    Dreamlover – Frozen

    Vogue, Like a virgin-prayer, ….. every of these songs are associated with Madonna.
    Ask anyone: Who sang Dreamlover? … People must think..

    But who sang Like a virgin? … People say of course.. MADONNA!

  242. Chris says:

    Yes Moff, Madonna songs are much bigger hits than Mariah’s songs, everybody knows that.

    But you missed many other hits, but well, it’s uncountable right ? Madonna has such #1 worldwide hits.

    Being number one WORLDWIDE is much more important than USA.

  243. Zac says:

    Ok I haven’t been on here for about a couple weeks but I am confused, who the heck said that Miley Cyrus was the most selling female artist are you kidding me.She is not and will never be the most selling female artist ever. OMG. that is ridiculous that is like saying that Tiny Tim sold more than the Beatles. give me a break. Ok ALEXIS and MOFF are telling it like it’s real. And Alexis thank you for the cool comment. I also think you’re pretty chill. :) you too MOFF

  244. Alexis says:

    Thank you too Zac :)

    And yeah, saying that Miley will be the best selling is like saying that Justin will beat MJ LMAO !!!

    So ridiculous, poor little idiots, they are such a minority, because majorities hate Miley Cyrus and make fun of her stupid career.

    Anyway…..who is Tiny Tim :S:S:S ??? hehehe

  245. Madonna says:

    Madonna of course.. :)

  246. neutral says:

    I see the argument as following…
    Madonna is beyond doubt the most successful of the two in the world excluding the USA, Mariah is more successful or on par with Madonna in the USA. The question is who is the more successful if we combine both of them…

    Madonna supports her claim on the Guinness book of records which is an official source. Mariah’s claim is supported by the World Music Awards which is also an official source. I don’t think people pronouncing Mariah as the most successful female in TV shows and ceremonies count as official sources as they will say whatever the record labels pay them to say so it is not credible.

    If we assume that Mariah Carey was indeed the most successful female artist in the history of music when she received the millennium award (circa around 2000) then it was due to her extraordinary sales in the 90s, but Madonna couldn’t have been that far behind. The Guinness Book Of Record’s claim is right now. Since 2000 Madonna has released 4 studio albums and Mariah 5. In terms of total sales Madonna sold more than Mariah. Music sold much more than Glitter, American Life sold about the same as Charmbracelet, Emancipation Of Mimi sold slightly more than COAD but the difference between those two album is negligible in comparison to the difference between Music and Glitter. Since then Hard Candy sold more than E=MC2 and a compilation (Celebration) sold more than three times the amount of MC’s last studio album.

    So it could be that Mariah was indeed the most successful recording artist in terms of albums sold (if we add singles in then that claim becomes unbelievable) around 2000 but Madonna overtook her since. It is an entirely possible claim

    In terms of singles there is no question Madonna is far ahead Mariah

    For those who argue that Mariah achieved in 10 years what Madonna achieved in 20, that was true around the year 2000 but you have to remember that:
    1) 1990-2000 Mariah released 6 studio albums whereas 1983-2000 Madonna released 8 including one (Breathless) which was totally non-commercial. So despite the gap in the years they are famous, the number of studio released are almost the same
    2) Madonna in her third decade in business (’00s) sold more than Mariah in her second (’00s) even with one studio album release less.
    3) Mariah in her first 10 years was concentrating on her album/singles sales and nothing else. Madonna in her first 20 years did films, books, tours, theatre, babies, etc etc
    4) Although the US is the single largest music market in the world, it is smaller than the EU market (which is combined by 3-4 major markets and 23-24 minor ones)… Madonna’s difference from Mariah in Europe is huge whereas Mariah’s difference from Madonna in the US (if we accept Mariah has sold more over there) is miniscule as evidenced by the RIAA
    5) yes Mariah has 18 #1 singles in the US but Madonna has much more Top 10 hits and the difference in the second market (UK) is huge (13 v 2), so is in every other major market in the world as well as in some unofficial sources such as the United World Chart (Madonna 17 v 3 for Mariah)

    So in my opinion Madonna is the most successful. Moreover (that’s not a credible claim but I will say it) despite the fact that is virtually impossible to know the exact amount of records sold, most neutral chart researchers agree that Madonna is the most successful followed by Celine Dion and Mariah in third place

  247. neutral says:

    I forgot to say about Asia, Latin America, the Middle East and Africa. When we count the number of total records sold, you basically have to take into account the developed countries only because in the other countries the piracy is so big that official record sales are miniscule. Mariah could be far bigger than Madonna in the Philippines but that wouldn’t say much because official record sales there are extremely small. Moreover in countries such as India, Iran, Arabic countries etc the sales of foreign acts are extremely small in comparison to domestic acts. So we can safely leave those markets aside

  248. Alejandro says:

    What Neutral said, is one proof that Mariah’s award of millennium and Chopard diamond were not so relevant for millions of people and not known for many other……

    You are totally right…Madonna is more successful and better seller.

    I’m not against Mariah, I don’t hate her, but the lambs should face the truth at least once…Sorry guys.

  249. Alejandro says:

    But is not true about Mariah achieved in 10 years what Madonna in 20.

    Madonna achieved the same things as Mariah in her first ten years as well (1983-1993) You cannot take 10 years from one, and then 10 from one, that is not validate.

    Any way, Madonna achieved a little bit more in her first ten years even in US more than what Mariah achieved in US in first ten years and obviously much more worldwide.

  250. Jason says:

    First,Celine Dion’s sales doesn’t surpassed Mariah Carey’s sales as I show it on my precedent comment.Besides,anyone said that Madonna wasn’t the best-selling female artist in the world on those last comments.At opposite,everyone agree with this.We just explained that it’s doesn’t mean best female singer of the world .Moreover,we said that Madonna’s album sales doesn’t surpassed Mariah’s with 150 or 200 million of difference.Madonna don’t sold 380 million of albums (without including singles sales).It impossible in accordance with Madonna’s sales.Her best selling album (Immaculate Collection)reached 26 million of sales,her second best selling album reached 22 million sales.she had on maximum 9 albums reaching and surpassing 10 million sales.The sales of her albums on her first 11 years of career doesn’t reach or surpassed 140 million.How this could be possible to sale 380 million albums ? Even if she had 7 albums reaching 30 million sales and all the rest reaching at least 15 million sales each,it wouldn’t reach 380 million in total.Well,it’s doesn’t the case.It’s easy to anyone to claim numerous sales and total,but it is more difficult to prove this in details.We don’t mean that Madonna isn’t the best-selling female artist,but that her album sales doesn’t surpassed Mariah’s sales over 150 or 200 million.It’s wrong and exaggerate ,we know it.Besides,Celine Dion’s sales doesn’t surpassed Mariah’s,as show it in my precedent commentaries.Mariah beats Celine on the 1990 decade,the most important for the both,and nothing proves that Celine get advantage in the 2000’s.Even if it was the case.it would be not enough to her sales to surpassing Mariah’s.Mariah is the second best selling female artist,Celine is the third,Madonna is the first.

  251. XXX WOLF says:

    In fact they both are just pretty females on heat ,so dream to f****k them together.

  252. Zachary says:

    Hey,I am a 100 % Mariah Carey fan,unlike your traitor Zac, I am a true lamb and I’m proud of it. I 12 but I am much more mature than many cowards who can’t defend their favorite artist.Mariah Carey is beautiful and I love her voice. She’s gorgeous physically,vocally and artistically.Madonna is a big gray mare who put on one’s make-up.Mariah have the body of a supermodel (she’s close to 6′ of height) and she’s cute.Celine Dion sings like a 90 years old grand mother next to Mariah.

  253. Meredith says:

    For Zac.
    How old are you Zac? Who are you? A Mariah or Madonna fan?
    Here is not a friendship site but a blog to face two music legends.If you can’t defend one of they both,get out of here.Instead of argue for Mariah Carey,you are pander to Alexis and Moff.That’s a shame for you as such a Mariah Carey fan.You are a coward Zac,you’re sucks !

  254. LLoyd says:

    Mariah Carey is a big cow.Her fans become deaf cause her screams.Madonna voice is better than Mariah,sorry for Mariah’s fans but she don’t know singing,she know screaming.Celine Dion is a Camel with a nasal voice,she’s a true parrot and she know just repeat after Foster,Warren,Afanasieff,Luprano,Goldman,Doelp…
    Madonna is a gorgeous & voluptuous sex diva.She get a real talent and a true voice.
    Long life to the queen of pop,Madonna 4ever & ever.

  255. MOFF says:

    I think we shouldn’t fight for our favorite artist.

    Its okay that Mariah Fans want to prove her success and Madonnas fans her success.

    But let us be neutrally. I like Madonna and she is the best selling female singer.

    If I liked Mariah Carey I though would say that Madonna is the best selling artist. If I like her or not.

    And for Celine Fans: You must accept that Madonna has sold more!

  256. Gary says:

    To Moff

    I am a three languages person and I travel a lot around the world.I’m a music lover since 26 years.Moff, I respect your opinion but I think that you make a big mistake about popularity songs of the both singers.

    First at all, it’ depends of where and who you question that. In America? Europe? Japan? China? Australia?
    Also you must opposite better songs or hits worldwide of each in between they both.

    From Mariah Carey, Hero, I’ll be there, My all, Always be my baby,Without you and O holy night are as popular worldwide as any song of Madonna. Everyone,anywhere worldwide know these songs. Don’t try to claim Madonna’s song are most popular than Mariah’s .I have some relatives living in Latin America,West Indies,Canada ,France and Australia and believe me,according to them,those songs from Mariah are not less popular than Madonna’s hits .You underestimate the popularity of Mariah’s songs worldwide.Even if she doesn’t have many # 1 hits in some of those countries,her songs are very popular .The popularity of songs are not always proportional to their position in charts.
    Madonna is more popular than MC in those countries as an artist,but not always her music.For example,in the West Indies,Madonna is most popular than Mariah,everyone know the character and image of Madonna ,but paradoxically, they knows approximately 6 songs for Mariah Carey for 2 of Madonna.Madonna is above all popular worldwide as a female icon and sex symbol.She’s represent around the world occidental woman liberal and emancipate at male chauvinist world.
    Mariah Carey is popular worldwide as a phenomenal vocalist.She’s popular around the world by her music and her powerful voice before remainder.Everyone get fascination and curiosity for her songs because of her unique high notes of whistle register.
    Moreover, All I want for Christmas is you and We belong together are so much more popular worldwide than many songs of Madonna.This is a FACT. Who worldwide doesn’t know All I want 4 Xmas is U ? Don’t say Hung Up is most popular than We belong together just because this song was a # 1 hit in 45 countries. So what?
    China get much more people than Europe, Africa and Latin America combined.We belong together is known by China people besides the rest of the world. We belong together has been listened to more than 8 billion times in the U.S alone. Billboard Magazine named it the most popular song of the 2000’s and the 13 last years. And also the most-successful song by a female artist in Billboard history. Without talk about others countries where this song had a big popularity, like Australia,Japan,etc. Don’t forget that this song was occupied also great positions in European charts.

  257. MOFF says:

    Very good opinion, Gary

    I must say: You are right

    But I have to say:

    – We belong together isn’t the most popular song of the 2000s or the last 13 years.
    We always have to distinguish:

    Worldwide or only USA?

    If you mean USA, you’ll be right.
    But if you mean worldwide, you’ll be wrong.

    We belong together was a huge success in American, but not in Europe or other countries.
    It even wasn’t successful there!

    Hung up was number 1 in 45 countries.
    But Hung Up was also a success in the USA.

    Comparison: We belong together, successful in the USA, but not rest of the world (I don’t know Asia)

    Hung Up was successful EVERYWHERE in the world, even in the USA (Place 7, 1 million times sold)

    And I agree with you, All I want for Christmas is as popular as songs by Madonna.

    But All I want for Christmas is you, Hero, Without. I think these 3 songs are the most notable songs of Mariah Carey. Three which have been successful everywhere and which are famous everywhere.

    But I also think that Madonna hasn’t got only 3 songs which are notable.
    1. Like a virgin (signature song of Madonna)
    2. Material Girl (less success in Charts, but popular although)
    3. Papa don’t preach (successful in Charts, but it is unfortunately buried in oblivion)
    4. La Isla Bonita (most notable song for Europeans, ’cause it was her first number one there)
    5. Like A Prayer (most successful song for her in the 80s, famous for her huge scandalous video.)
    6. Vogue (best dance-choreography in video, notable for “Vogueing” dance style.)

    Then: NOT take a bow, rain and so on.. they were successful in America, but NOT in the World, that’s why I didn’t number them and put the min the list

    7. Frozen (my heart will go on was number one worldwide, it blocked Frozen to be #1)

    8. Music (her first dance hit in the new decade)

    9. Hung Up (I don’t have to comment it)

    10. 4 Minutes (4th successful single of 2008, AND ALSO SUCCESSFUL IN AMERICA, number 3, two million times sold)

    So I think Madonna has just MORE hits WORLDWIDE than Carey.

    Of course, there are some songs by Carey which are more known than Madonna’s but if you be honestly – Madonna has more notable songs.

  258. MOFF says:

    sorry, I just forgot to remember:

    DO you call “top Ten” successful?
    Yes, you can.

    But do you call “Number one” more successful?
    Yes, you do.

    So I just looked to the charts comparison of “We belong together” and “Hung Up”.

    We belong together has reached top ten positions in Europe. But it has not reached Number one positions.

    Hung Up was “only” number 7 in the USA, but it reached number one in almost every country in the world.

    You’re opinion, you decide, I think the answer is unequivocal.

  259. Marion says:

    Celine Dion get much more popular song hits than Madonna and Mariah Carey.She beats both not only in U.S,but also anywhere worldwide,you must recognize this fact.
    Moreover, Celine Dion is a much better entertainer and dancer than Madonna & MC.(see her performances at the A new day show at Las Vegas).Celine proves that she’s better than the both combined at everything (voice, dance, artistry, talent, popularity) She’s much more gorgeous too,and she’s so sexy!
    Celine Dion for life!

  260. Sebastien says:

    Celine Dion is much better than Madonna and Mariah Carey,everyone know this fact.

  261. MOFF says:

    I think Marion and Sebastien are the same person…..

    Whatever, this is YOUR opinion.
    YOU say that Celine is the best performer
    YOU say that Celine is the best entertainer
    YOU say that Celine is the most awesome singer

    THAT’S YOUR OPINION

    But look at the FACTS

    WE TALK ABOUT BEST SELLING FEMALE ARTISTS

    MADONNA VS: MARIAH CAREY

    AND the Chart success tells us who has more hits!!!

    NOW Sebastian and Marion…
    beat that!

  262. MOFF says:

    How many number ones does Celine have??????

    HOW MANY????

    USA, Worldwide, Germany, Europe, Japan, and so on!!!!

    HOW MANY

    less than MADONNA!

    How many records has she already sold?????

    HOW MANY???

    LESS than MADONNA!!!

    And now: You didn’t tell us proves.

    I HAVE FACTS

    Guinness World Records, RIAA, IFPI,…..

    They all say It’s MADONNA

    and Celine and Mariah are the same level.

  263. Gary says:

    Moff,we talked about popularity of songs worldwide,not their position on hit parade.And we talk about their songs in general,not one or two hit songs.the real difference is that for Madonna,the hits songs are often the same song in every countries,but for Mariah,her hit songs are different in most countries.Maybe Madonna had most hit songs worldwide,but the difference is not as huge as you think.Mariah’s songs are very popular .

  264. Zachary says:

    Hey,get out of here,all fans of Celine Dion.This topic,we talk about the two best-selling female artists on earth,not the three best selling.There’s no place here for your pretentious artist.

  265. Victoria says:

    Mariah Cow-rey and Mare-donna are just two sluts ,two female dogs trying to attract the maximum of mates .Celine Dion is a true singer and is better than they both.She’s a real superstar. Celine Dion doesn’t had the need to attract men through her music.She’s naturally more sexy than Madonna and Mariah combined ,without making eccentricities .She’s also more graceful than Mariah Carey,more attractive than Madonna.Madonna and Mariah are zero artist next to Celine.

  266. MOFF says:

    Yes,

    Mariah songs are also popular.
    They are popular in America, maybe even South America, and Asia. But not in Europe.

    Madonna has more worldwide hits, that’s it.

    And to the topic Celine:

    Get out of here, Celine fans. Sorry for you.
    Victoria, this is your opinion. But what do other people say?
    ..I think something totally different.

    So don’t annoy us with Sexiness or Attraction of a person unless you haven’t heard other opinions.

    Celine is a great singer and artist.
    Mariah is a great singer
    Madonna is a great artist and entertainer, she has everything combined (I know the problem: her voice)

    I think that’s all

  267. For Gary says:

    Gary, let me remind you that even though you are trying to say many things about Mariah’s songs……you are saying lies of a lot of them……….We belong together, Hero, Without you and all I want for Christmas is you are very popular, yeah………but is a total lie what you said that we belong together was much more popular than Madonna songs, that is a total bull s**t!
    Oh, but then you speak about We belong together’s charts and because of that is popular right ?, and if a song is not in the chart then is popular any way among people because your relatives told you right ?? Oh great source.
    Not congruency in what you say….typical liar tricky Mariah fan.

    And we are not talking about charts parade ? Maybe no, but let me remind you that many songs of Madonna (much more popular than MC’s songs) were not only popular in charts, but also among all the people….I mean, Hung Up, 4 minutes, Music, Frozen, Ray of light, Like a Virgin, Material Girl, Vogue, Holiday, etc….. are much more popular than any MC songs ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

    Moff: You are wrong about Latin America, I am from Latin America and believe me, Mariah is not popular here, I know many songs of her because I also like her music, but when I ask them about many songs of her they don’t even know not even thinking, but about Madonna, they remember a lot of songs.

    Now for Jason:

    You ARE SAYING that she couldn’t sell 380 million………even for me is difficult to understand that, but I mean, we cannot mess with IFPI, RIAA, GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS (THEY PUBLISHED IT NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE, BUT THREE TIMES) FORBES, ETC…… So, until now, most of people know that Madonna has sold more than 380 million albums worldwide…..You can guide by your intuition only.

    Now for you fu**ing a**holes fans of MC who are messing with Zac………What does it have to do that he is a fan with Mariah is the best or not ???….I mean, he loves MC but accepts that Madonna beats her……….So for you, being a lamb means lying, inflating sales ? Insulting Madonna because you r jealous ? Well….Now I understand why lambs are so depressed and terribly frustrated.

    And for Marion and Sebastien:

    Don’t be subjective, Celine is not a better performer just because of her dancers you pair of idiots, when you speak about a performer, you mean the artist.

    Celine doesn’t even dance, Madonna does and does it much better.

  268. Alexis says:

    Oh, now because Zac wrote me good comments he is coward and not a true fan ?

    It is much more coward go insulting another artists and their fans and then running away than accept the facts and enjoy their favorite artists BECAUSE OF THEIR MUSIC, BECAUSE OF THEIR ART, BECAUSE OF THEIR MESSAGES INSIDE THEIR SONGS, BECAUSE OF THEIR PERSONALITIES…..BECAUSE OF WHAT MAKE THEM BE WHAT THEY ARE.

    Zac doesn’t need to insult, and post stupid and tricky arguments trying to prove that Mariah is the biggest selling female (he would lose the battle, because MC is not that)

    I remember that when he entered here for the very first time, he was saying that Mariah wins, and that Madonna not and bla bla bla…..finally he accepted the truth, which was REAL ADMIRABLE, not coward……So Zac, congratulations for being honest finally and for understanding that what is most important is enjoy Mariah Carey even though she is not the most successful (that is not the important thing actually)

    Haters are real losers with no lives.

    LONG LIVE MADONNA & MARIAH !!!

  269. MOFF says:

    Yes, “FOR GARY”
    you’re right.

    I didn’t say Madonna was successful in South America.
    I only said “it could be”
    So.. don’t worry. I just didn’t know the “Madonna level” in Latin America.
    So I believe you.
    Madonna is much more popular in Latin America than MC.
    .. and I honestly knew that even before.

    So.. I also have to admire Zac who now understood that MC is NOT the best selling female artist.

    For all Mariah fans: Look at the example Zac!

  270. Victoria says:

    All of you are liars ! how did you dare compare Celine Dion with Madonna and Mariah Carey ,those b***tches? Celine is not just a singer and she’s more than a queen,Celine Dion is a goddess.the goddess of music .The 2 others are just shameless sluts who sing worthless music.You just hate Celine and don’t want to recognize it.Celine is a pure and a true songstress with a real talent.She doesn’t market her ass or her breast to sale albums.It’s a shame for Mariah and Madonna.Otherwise,Celine surpass Maredonna and Mariah Cowrey on everything.Men just fantasize on their breast,and their asses,not on their music.Celine beat them on everything:albums sales ,voice,tours,hits ,etc…and she doesn’t use payola to rule(Celine Dion sold close to 500 million albums and singles worldwide,more than any female artists).fu** you,Alexis ,Gary,Moff ,Michelle,Meloni and all other fans of Cowrey and Maredonna.you are just lesbian and gays!! Liar!!!Celine Dion rules!!!!!!!!!!!!

  271. MOFF says:

    You crazy bitch named Victoria.

    Sorry but I must say that!

    You are not able to fight with us that’s why you insult us!!!

    you don’t know anything!
    You need sources!
    And we didn’t say we didn’t like Celine Dion, she is a great singer and artist!!!!!!!

    SHE HAS JUST SOLD LESS RECORDS!!!!

    MADONNA HAS SOLD MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You are CRAZY WITH YOUR SILLY 500 Million records sold!
    SHE hasn’t sold 500 million albums and singles!!

    At least 250 million records!!
    COUNT THEM!!!!!!!

    Sorry for insulting you, but YOU insulted US!

    So look to the sources first THEN TELL!

  272. Alexis says:

    Victoria:

    I’m afraid to disappoint you, but even though I’m a fan of Madonna and Mariah Carey, I’M NOT GAY :P, so don’t introduce me your brother ok ??

    Moreover I don’t hate Celine Dion, in fact I’m also a big fan of her, but SHE IS NOT AT THE TOPIC OF THIS ENTRY, DON’T YOU KNOW HOW TO READ OR WHAT ???

    Women like you are disgusting and those types of women are the one who I forget that are women, SO GET OUT OF HERE!

  273. Meredith says:

    Are you crazy ? Who do you think you are? Musical experts or Musical judges?
    Do you think you’re better than Mariah Carey fans because of your lies?
    Do you think all Mariah Carey fans are as idiots and useless as Zac ?
    You make a big mistake guys,you can’t frighten me.You’re stupids and crafty, but not enough for afraid me.There is so much lies and confusions into your falsified arguments.According to your lies,Madonna is the female artist of all records.When Mariah’s fans recognized that Madonna sell more albums than her,you don’t satisfy from it .Sometimes you claim Madonna get over 150 million albums sales on advantage of Mariah,sometimes you claim 200 million on advantage of Mariah and bla bla bla…You just mentioned Guinness book of Records,Forbes,IFPI etc. A short time ago,you refuted all musical authorities like World Music Award, Billboard, Chopard Diamond Award etc. because they supported Mariah.But now you try to make Mariah’s fans swallow that Forbes ( who specialize in celebrities fortunes), Guinness book of Records (who’s not specialized in music questions ) just because they support Madonna. RIAA (specialize in sales at U.S countries only.According to RIAA,Mariah is the second best-selling female artist at U.S just behind Barbra Streisand,not Madonna)Sorry for you.Paradoxically,all figures sales of Madonna can’t prove that she sells really 300 or 380 million albums in spite of your exaggerated increase of her figures sales.Do you know calculate? How Madonna could sell 380 million while her best selling album sold at 26 million,her second best selling album sold at 22 million?And she had only 8 albums reaching and surpassing 10 million units sold ?Just the names of the institutions that you cited (Guinness Book of Record,Forbes,etc..) doesn’t resolve this problem.Moreover,the detailed figure sales are most credible than simple and proofless asserts from institutions .
    Now,you try to say Madonna’s songs are much popular worldwide than Mariah’s.All your arguments rest on Europe. Europe,Europe and Europe again.However you didn’t stop to say to Mariah’s fans till now again that America and Asia are not the whole world ,then you continue to claim Europe for Madonna,you’re so confused!
    You decide whom institutions and musical authorities are valid and truthful and which are not credible.And it’s in accordance of your own arguments.You accept a Musical Authority as credible if and only if , it supports your favorite artist Madonna. In the contrary case,you said that this source lie and is not valid.Now you try to be regarded as wiser on this blog.
    FACTS_ Already in 1997, Guinness book of records ( French version) was presented Mariah Carey as THE FEMALE ARTIST WITH THE MOST ALBUMS SALES at this decade.In 1998, at the VH1 Divas Live Show ,among Aretha Franklin,Celine Dion,Gloria Estefan and Shania Twain ,Mariah Carey was presented as THE BEST SELLING ARTIST OF 1990 DECADE. In 2001,Mariah Carey total of albums selling was 150 million worldwide and she won THE MILLENNIUM AWARD.In 2002, at the prestigious Super Bowls show in U.S debut,she was claimed as a BIGGEST FEMALE RECORDING ARTIST IN HISTORY .In 2003,Mariah got the Chopard Diamond Award for the BEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIMES .
    Finally,nothing in the facts doesn’t prove that Madonna sales more albums than Mariah Carey .There are too much confusions and lies into the facts. We will never be O.K on this point.
    We can’t always know Who lie and who said the truth,but if we’re really objective and searching for the truth,we must support and base our researches on the past facts for getting some ideas for now.

    Today,many much websites and biographies are biased and falsify their sources.They try swallow anything to us.Those websites increase exaggeratedly their favorite artist figures sales and decrease those they hate. I don’t know why, but many of those blogs and websites hate Mariah Carey in particular and diminish her figures sales ( particularly Wikipedia).Everyone know that,it’s more than obvious.They try to put even Celine Dion before Mariah Carey in spite of the real facts. A true music lover is which who search the TRUTH ,not anything claim by a websites or mediation authorities claim about an artist. It’s so easier to falsify some figures sales,but it’s so hard and difficult to make a REAL fulfillment. I know many of you will do insult me,but I don’t care ,cause I know insults it’s the best argument that you can use.You prefer to hide the truth. I don’t afraid to said the truth whatever the consequences.

  274. Gary says:

    To (for Gary)
    Don’t try to frighten me by your swearwords and oaths,anybody can use them.But I recognize that truthful and objective assertions are more difficult from people like you.About who had most popular hits songs worldwide,I said that there are many Mariah’s hit songs which are most popular worldwide than most of Madonna’s hit songs and I gave an example.Who talked about popularity of songs worldwide.There are most people worldwide who know ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS YOU, WE BELONG TOGETHER, HERO,WITHOUT YOU, MY ALL,WHEN YOU BELIEVE, ALWAYS BE MY BABY, I’LL BE THERE, O HOLY NIGHT (Mariah Carey’s version)than the Madonna hit songs that you cited.But I recognized that Madonna ‘s hit songs are most popular just in Europe.Just China get much more people than Europe .Even if Madonna got Latin America on advantage over Mariah Carey,she couldn’t win because China had more people than Europe and Latin America combined,So Mariah wins.For Canada,Africa and Australia,the advantage of Madonna is not enough significant over Mariah Carey . West Indies are for Mariah and Brazil is a great supporter of Mariah.So Mariah wins.The real difference between hit songs from Madonna and Mariah Carey is that ,Madonna’s hit songs are often the same hit songs at Europe,US ,Canada,Australia and the rest of the world.However,for Mariah,the hits songs are often different depending of US ,China,Japan,Canada,Australia,etc…For example,at West Indies,O Holy Night from Mariah Carey were the number one Christmas song for 6 consecutive years,All I want For Christmas is You were the top for two consecutive years.otherwise,this is All I want For Christmas is you which is popular at the rest of the world.Moreover, All I want for Christmas is you reappear into the world charts every year, since 1994.It’s normal than this song is huge most popular worldwide than any song of Madonna.

  275. MOFF says:

    No.
    I think the point “popular songs” cannot be finished.

    And we shouldn’t talk more about this topic.

    But the fact is: Madonna has sold more records than Mariah.

    Look at Mariah’s album sales. They cannot reach the 200 million mark.
    But Madonna already surpassed it. FACT

    I really cannot understand why there are so many people trying to push Mariah over the limit and success.
    SHE ISN’T AS SUCCESSFUL AS MADONNA!

    Who many has E=MC² sold compared to Hard Candy?
    How many Memoirs of an imperfect angel compared to celebration?
    But The Emancipation has sold AROUND (doesn’t matter if 1 or 2 million more or less) 10 million
    Confessions on a Dancefloor ALSO around 10 million.

    AND NOW calculate all sales of Madonna in the 2000s decade.
    MORE THAN MARIAH!

    OK. I think Madonna fans have to accept that Mariah was more successful than Madonna in the 90s.

    90s: Mariah won.

    But 2000s: Madonna won.

    So we have a battle.

    But: there are the 80s, where Mariah hasn’t sung.

    so 80s: Madonna won.

    And now two decades are for Madonna.
    I think that should be one of many proves that Madonna has sold more records.

    And NO WORDS about Celine!

    I really want to travel around the world to get information about these two singers.
    Only this way you can find out who is more popular.

    But as I know:

    North American Continent: Mariah + Madonna win

    South America: Madonna

    Europe: Madonna

    Africa: We don’t know exactly I suppose Madonna
    Asia: Mariah a little bit before Madonna, but almost the same ( Asia doesn’t consist only of China, Thailand, and the Philippines, there is also Russia, Israel , Turkey, and so on)

    Australia: Madonna

  276. lucrative says:

    Worldwide who has more #1 hits? Madonna.
    Worldwide Confessions on a Dance Floor (her latest album) sold a HUGE amount and is still selling.
    Madonna’s single “Hung Up” went #1 all across Europe and the world for WEEKS!
    Madonna’s single “Sorry” went #1 in Europe and many other countries (not as many as “Hung Up” though)
    Who is more successful WORLDWIDE? MADONNA!!

    Mariah is so far behind worldwide that she will NEVER catch up to Madonna. Mariah would have had to have been more successful earlier in her career worldwide to think of catching up to Madonna. So, Madonna wins.

    Mariah Carey only beats Madonna in the United States. Well, actually Mariah Carey only beats Madonna in terms of #1’s. Madonna has more Top 2, 5, 10, and 40 singles in the U.S.. She has more gold singles, too. And has sold more records in the United States as well.

    Who is an ICON? Madonna.
    Who is called the “Queen of Pop”? Madonna.
    Just because Mariah may have more #1’s in the US does not make her as well-known or regarded as such an icon.

    Overall, worldwide Madonna beats Mariah HANDS down.
    Overall, in the United States, INCLUDING more then just the amount of #1’s Madonna beats Mariah HANDS down in more categories.

    Plus, Madonna’s TOUR is selling out EVERYWHERE with OUTRAGEOUS ticket prices. That proves something. Not to mention Madonna does not use guest artists to help single’s and she actually speaks her mind and pushes for woman, gays and expression.

  277. FOR MEREDITH AND GARY HAHA HILARIOUS says:

    ANOTHER LIE…….ACCORDING TO RIAA, MADONNA IS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST OF ALL TIME AND THE SECOND ONE IN AMERICA JUST BEHIND BARBRA.

    CHINA HAS MORE PEOPLE THAN EUROPE, SO WHAT ????

    WHAT DOES POPULATION OR ECONOMIC POWER HAS TO DO WITH THE SUCCESS OF AN ARTIST, AND COME ON……….CHINA WOULD BE HUGE, BUT MARIAH HAS NOT ALL FANS OF CHINA……………..AND ANY WAY…………MADONNA HAS MUCH MORE FANS IN EUROPE THAN MARIAH HAS IN ASIA.

    MARIAH SHOULD HAVE SOLD MUCH MORE IN ASIA THAN MADONNA IN EUROPE, A SMALLER CONTINENT, BUT WAS NOT LIKE THAT, EUROPE EVEN THOUGH IS SMALLER, MADONNA SOLD M7UCH MORE THERE THAN MARIAH IN ENTIRE ASIA !!!!

    MOREOVER, AS TYPICAL LIAR FANS OF MARIAH, ALWAYS FORGET EUROPE, ENTIRE AMERICAN C0NTINENT, OCEANIA AND SOUTH AFRICA, WHICH TOGETHER IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN CHINA AND JAPAN.

    And WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE HITS OF MARIAH ARE NOT TRUE……..O HOLY NIGHT WAS NOT EVEN A HIT, NOT EVEN A SINGLE, YOU JUST CAME TO SAY LIES HAHAHA POOR PATHETIC LOSER…….I LIVE IN LATIN AMERICA, BUT TRAVEL A LOT TO AUSTRALIA AND EUROPE AND IS LIKE MARIAH WHO ???

    SO DON’T SAY LIES

  278. FOR MEREDITH AND GARY HAHA HILARIOUS says:

    You say that CHOPARD DIAMOND AWARD AND MILLENNIUM AWARD are the most important ????

    COME ON, IF THEY WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT, MARIAH WOULD BE RECOGNIZED A LOT AROUND THE WORLD AS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE ARTIST, BUT THEY DON’T DO SO AND SHE RECEIVED THOSE AWARDS AND KEPT ON BEING IRRELEVANT ???

    WHAT A SHAME………….MADONNA IS RECOGNIZED AS THAT AND GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS EVEN THOUGH IS NOT SPECIALIZED IN MUSIC ONLY, BUT IS SPECIALIZED AS THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT RECORDS OF ALL THE WORLD IN EVERY SINGLE TOPIC, WHICH MAKE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY SOURCES WHO LOVE MARIAH AND TRIED TO ANNOUNCE HER AS THE BIGGEST SELLING, BUT THEY DIDN’T MAKE IT STILL.

    YOU SAY SOME SOURCES WHO HATE MADONNA OR MARIAH, IS EXACTLY WHAT WMA WERE DOING ANY WAY…………….AND WHY WMA ARE NOT AS POPULAR AS GUINNESS ?????

    ANY WAY…………SO BORING YOU ARE WITH YOUR DELUSIONAL LIES, GOOD BYE.

  279. Gary says:

    To “for Meredith and Gary ha ha hilarious”:Who said here that Madonna wasn’t most successful worldwide at sales than Mariah Carey? I talk about popularity of songs.And don’t dare say that I am a liar cos you are.I talked about O Holy Night as a huge hit in West Indies,not in Latin America,so before to reply any stupid replies,just read carefully what is writen.
    To Moff:I talked about popularity of songs ,not about size of sales or success.I demonstrated that as China,America ,Japan ,West Indies and the rest of Asian countries supporting Mariah Carey are composed of most people than the ones supporting Madonna and so,there are most people worldwide who know Mariah songs than Madonna songs.Most popular songs mean songs which known by most people.Unlike what you said,In countries,the sales must be limited to a part of population,but not the celebrity of a hit song.success songs are known by approximately all people of the countries in which they got success even if the sales are not very impressive.

  280. TO MELONI says:

    Why do you try to rig and distort my comments? To make yours more credible? First,nowhere in my comments,I referred to Africa specifically,even worse I never said that African were hungry and blab bla bla…cause I’m not stupid neither petty.It’s scandalous!All the times that I mentioned Africa,it’s between Canada,Oceania and Latin America.At opposite,I have lot of respect for Africa co’s I know his history.Moreover,my respect doesn’t come from the material prosperity of people but above of all ,from their human values.And I don’t discriminate anyone at all in my posts, So ,don’t try to put on me the responsibility of another one.I even don’t remind that I’ve seen this kind of comment in the blog at all.And I never said that Madonna isn’t the best selling female artist in the world,I said that Mariah is the SECOND BEST SELLING AMERICAN FEMALE artist in Canada and Australia.You’d better read posts more carefully before to reply.Moreover,you said that Madonna wins Mariah with 200 million albums on advantage,but it’s false.It’s not enough to cite some great sources as support,co’s there is any great sources above of doubts as their assertions are not clear .How someone may sold 380 million of albums while his best selling album reached 26 million,his second best selling,22 million and his third best selling ,20 million? Moreover,he has only 22 releases in which,8 reached and surpassed 10 million of sales at all ? it doesn’t seems senseless? And this is while they claim that another one artist which have a best selling album surpassing 30 million of sales,a second best selling 25 million and his third 19 million ( with a total of 10 albums reaching and surpassing 10 million of sales)that his total of albums sales doesn’t even reach 200 million sales ? What that’s mean?According to a neutral newspaper that I’ve read in 1999 and who presented a list of Madonna’s albums with their respective sales,the total of sales doesn’t reached 125 million .And I had a French magazine who asserted that Britney Spears ( just after the release of her fourth album) has sold more albums than Madonna do while 10 years.However,in another popular French magazine released at September 2001 titled GIRLS,it was asserted that Mariah Carey sold more than 148 million of albums and the text clarified “ more than Madonna and Celine Dion”.I still have this one cause I conserved it .And I have many other arguments no dating from yesterday whom disadvantaged Madonna and advantaged Mariah Carey on sales in accordance with their detailed data.Then,there is World Music Awards ,Billboard Magazine,1997 French edition of Guinness Book of Records…As official and public shows,there is 1998 VH1 Divas live,the Super Bowl,etc…Otherwise,we finally agree that Madonna sells more than Mariah Carey.We even don’t challenged your arguments against World Music Awards, saying that Chopard Diamond Award was irrelevant for most of people worldwide , that facts speaks by itself and bla bla bla…But now,you assert that Madonna has more than 200 million albums sold on advantage over Mariah Carey…this have no sense.

    For these ones who said Madonna makes more sensations at tour in Asia than Mariah Carey, I already explained why and you should read our first comments once again.Madonna isn’t appreciated only as a singer,but also as a sexual icon and a worldwide sex-symbol.In fact ,Madonna symbolize the western sexual emancipated and liberated women in Asia,Africa,and Latin America.In those countries,she represents the American and European female liberation.this is why she’s so popular worldwide and her tours make more sensations than Mariah’s.Her image get ahead of her music in some countries and people are excited and hotheaded to get in her concerts and shows.Its also why even out of musical background ,she still very popular.There is no need to be a fan,a music lover or a musician to know Madonna.Even in porn industries,some film titles,actresses,etc..refer to Madonna.And about some artists,it’s not her music who influenced them ,but her image.Unlike to Mariah whom singing style and ability are the reasons of her popularity and success worldwide.

  281. Martha says:

    To Moff and Celine Dion fans
    Moff ,even if you dislike Mariah,don’t say that Celine Dion and Mariah Carey are the same level,it’s wrong.You know very well that it’s false.
    1- Celine is a very huge vocalist,but she can’t compare with Mariah.Mariah Carey voice is not just beautiful and powerful.Mariah voice is versatile and various too.Listening Vision of love, Emotions, Melt Away, Can’t let go,We belong together, Hero, Fly like a bird, Bliss, Heartbreaker, If it’s over, Loverboy,Prisoner, The wind, Without you, You’re so cold… You could believe those songs are singing by many different singers.Celine couldn’t sing those songs cause her voice is so border,and she doesn’t have enough talent to do it.Moreover,Mariah got a vocal bonus in advantage over all other singers: her mastery of whistle register.
    2- Do you know one song of Celine that Mariah couldn’t sing ? ( French songs not include because Mariah doesn’t speak French language and we talk about voice ,not languages) My heart will go on, All by myself, Misled, I’m alive, The reason, The power of love, Love can move mountains, Seduces me, A new day has come,If you asked me to… ? Mariah Could sing all songs of Celine,that prove she get much more vocal talents than Celine.
    3- Celine Dion is just a voice.In spite of so much years to singing,she can’t writing,composing or producing even just one of her songs.Without Foster, Afanasieff,Warren ,Goldman, Luprano, Doelp,she’s nothing. Mariah Carey give 90 % of her musical material.She’s a real artist and she’s truly talented.
    4- Mariah Carey get much more hits worldwide than Celine Dion. At U.S alone,Mariah get 18 # 1, Celine Dion get just 4 .Even in Canada,the home-country of Celine Dion,Mariah got more # 1 hits than Celine.
    5- Mariah Carey sold more albums worldwide than Celine Dion.
    Mariah Carey -Approximately 210 million
    Celine Dion – Approximately 185 million
    6- Mariah Carey is gorgeous and sexy.She’s the one of the most beautiful women worldwide according by many votes on internet and people magazines.She ranked eighth on 100 sexiest women worldwide.Celine Dion is funny and comical,she just know pull faces to entertain people.She can compete with Mister Bean and Jim Carrey.

    Mariah Carey is so much better than Celine Dion in everything.She’s a real Diva.The both are at different levels and Mariah get the supremacy.

  282. MOFF says:

    Yes you are right (TO MELONI)

    but to the best selling albums:

    Do not look to WIKIPEDIA.
    WIKIPEDIA’S estimations are very inexact.
    BUT:
    The Immaculate Collection sold less than Music Box??????

    Hahaha. Some sources say that TIC sold about 26 million.
    Some sources say Music Box sold around 26 million. Some say 30, some 32, some just 25.

    So we have to make a note of that:

    The Immaculate Collection sold as much as Music Box (My opinion is TIC sold more)
    both have the same sales. Agree?

    ok. Now to: “10 albums surpassing the 10 million.”

    Madonna has 3 albums surpassing the 20 million mark.

    The Immaculate Collection,
    True Blue,
    Like a Virgin,
    (Wikipedia also say Ray Of light, but not sure)
    so we have to hold 3 albums anyway!

    Mariah Carey has 2 albums over 20 million:

    Music Box,
    Daydream

    You asked that why has Madonna sold more albums than Carey, whereas Mariah has 10 albums which reached over 10 million.

    That’s right. This cannot fit.
    BUT:
    Madonna has much more albums which sold 1-10 million.
    Again: More albums –> more sales (in case Madonna/Carey)

    And this doesn’t depend on studio albums. (Carey has sold more studio albums than Madonna)

    Madonna has just many albums with over 10 million, she has one more more album than Carey with over 20 million and she has many albums between 1 to 10 million.

    TOTAL: She has more albums sold than Mariah Carey.

    AND: she has sold about 200 million albums if you count them together. (Not only studio albums, I also mean Compilations, Soundtracks and Live-Albums)

    So count them, you’ll get around 200 million.
    (195-205 million)

    Now count Mariah’s sales: You’ll get around 150-160 million.
    NOT MORE THAN MADONNA.

    PLUS: Madonna has sold so many SINGLES (EPs) more than Carey. I think the pretentious number of “380 million” comes about because Madonna has sold 200 million albums and 180 million singles.
    That sounds incredible but count every single together,
    Like a virgin over 4 million, also like a prayer, Vogue over 6 Hung up over 9, 4 minutes over 7 music over 7 and so on.. I think you get much closer to the 100 million mark than you think!

    So 380 sounds bizarre but she has sold 300 million records anyway!
    More than Carey!

  283. MOFF says:

    Martha that’s right.

    Mariah is a better vocalist than Celine.

    BUT: How do you know that MARIAH CAREY HAS SOLD “200 MILLION ALBUMS??????

    THAT IS TOO MUCH!!

    210, that’s probably the number of MADONNA, but not of CAREY!

    160 to 170 are imaginable but not over 200!

    let me know how you got this source! I’m interested!

  284. =^.^= says:

    Of course Madonna is the best selling female artist on this planet! She sold more than everyone! She’s popular in every single country worldwide! In Europe we love her, Mariah? Who the fuc* is this bitch? Madonna is a complete artist, she made different records, she got pop/dance albums, r&b album, intimate/personal album,electronic new age album, acoustic album,sexy album..She made everything, she inspires all the female artists out there, even Mariah.. Her tours are the most successful concerts on earth, she has a business instinct, she’s always in the forefront, she’s original and her voice is unique and personal (fortunately, we like better her voice)

  285. Martha says:

    Don’t say anything,Moff.Everybody knows that Music Box sold more than The Immaculate Collection,not only Mariah Carey fans.Don’t try to deny this fact.Music Box sold more than 30 million units worldwide.And Daydream is sold at more than 25 million units worldwide.How do you think that Mariah could have the title of best-selling artist of 1990’s ? How do you think that the total of her albums sales could reach 150 million units worldwide since 2001 ,if her albums sales were really as low as you try to claim today ? she would be surpassed by many other artists if her sales were as low as you try to assert.You usually accept from Celine Dion fans that some of her albums surpass 30 millions,or that her albums sales reach 250 million although you know that Mariah sold more than Celine Dion,etc…Fortunately,it’s not today that we know that Mariah Carey albums sales are impressive.They were always impressive since long ago,and like for all other artists,her sales grows up through the time.

  286. Stacy says:

    To comments #:It’s just your opinion.

  287. MOFF says:

    Yes Martha,
    Mariah Carey still sells impressive, we all know that.

    Topic Celine: My opinion is that Celine sold more albums than Carey. But it’s unsure. So we cannot talk about that.

    Yes, Mariah is the best selling artist of the 90s.
    I calculated them.
    But I’m still NOT sure if The immaculate collection sold lower than Music Box.
    MANY (I MEAN A LOT of) people say that The Immaculate Collection sold MORE than Music Box, because it also reached the 30 million limit.
    Some sources say 26- to 32 million.
    ALSO MUSIC BOX.
    But actually:

    We know Madonna is more popular WORLDWIDE than Carey.
    Music Box has sold 10 million in the USA, The immaculate collection, TOO.
    So : same sales in the US. MORE sales worldwide.
    But because of her popularity she HAD in the beginning of the 90s she WAS as popular as Madonna in Europe, because she MADE good music.
    Today THE immaculate collection has the same sales as music Box.
    Music Box sold 28, not 30.
    And the sales of the immaculate collection are SKEPTICAL

    Celine: I know that she has TWO albums over 30 million!
    -Falling into you
    -Let’s talk about love

  288. Zac says:

    MOFF is right never look to Wikipedia even though there might be a little info a majority of that is either undecided information, unknown, or just complete bull sh**. never look to Wikipedia. try to find a reliable source. And I do second that Mariah Carey is the most selling artist of the 90’s with her most selling album Music Box with sales ranging from 28-32 mil. but the immaculate collection sold a lot as well so I’m not exactly sure which one sold more. but just so everyone knows most sales figures are estimations but the estimates are almost to be exact so you can’t be absolutely positive about something cause I looked on websites and pages of the sales figures for music box and it ranged from like 24 to like 35 mil. so you can’t be too sure. So this feud between Mariah sales and Madonna sales will never be exact but it is probably estimated to be Madonna. So I agree with MOFF

  289. Victoria says:

    You talk about Madonna as if she’s the best dancer among all the female artists,but she’s so far from this.In fact ,Janet Jackson is a much better dancer than Madonna,and Jennifer Lopez is also better than her on dance.Madonna neither better than the both at music,as singer.All that she get in advantage over Janet and J Lo is her shamelessness and crudeness.Even Britney Spears,Destiny’s Child,Shakira,Beyonce,Rihanna are better dancers than Madonna .And you claim that Madonna is more than a singer,that she’s an icon,but you don’t specify what kind of icon she is.Madonna is above all a sexual icon,but not especially a musical icon.Her image get ahead of her music and she’s much more influential by her image than by her music.

  290. Martha says:

    To Moff & others
    200 million albums sold is too much for Mariah?!! And what do you say about the 300 million albums sold claimed by some Madonna’s fans ?
    Information doesn’t come only from websites ,there is also available sources (specialized books,newspaper,etc…).
    First ,Music Box sold more than 31 million units worldwide .This album was sold close to 3 million in Japan,and it was certified 14 times platinum in Australia,10 times platinum (Diamond) in US,and was very successful everywhere worldwide (Including Europe).Till December 1994,Music Box still in the world charts.Everybody knows that this album surpassed 30 million units sold worldwide since 2007,so why do you try to challenge this fact now?For the Immaculate Collection,everybody always knew that it reach approximately 25-27 million units worldwide.Even Madonna ‘s fans always recognized it .Don’t face Music Box with The Immaculate Collection as if the both are in the same sale level.Music Box sells more,it’s a fact.
    Moreover,now you put 160-170 million albums sales to Mariah Carey because now it’s proved that real Madonna sales reached approximately 200 million.But ,the respective albums sales of the both artists are independent,the sales of Mariah Carey won’t decrease just because you discover that the real total sales of Madonna is lower than you thought.the total of Mariah’s album sales still approximately 200 million.Let’s calculate :Since 2001,the total of Mariah’s albums sales was 150 million.When we add the sale increase of those albums since 2001 till today ,the 150 million become at least 170 million (at the rate of 2 million by year for all her 1990’s albums).Then:
    Greatest hits 5,7 million
    Glitter 3,8
    Charmbracelet 4,3
    The remixes 0,8
    The Emancipation of Mimi : 12 million
    E=MC 2,7
    The ballads 0,5
    Memoirs of an imperfect angel 0,8
    Total =30,6 million for 2000’s
    170 +30,6 =200 million

  291. MOFF says:

    How do you know that Mariah has sold 150 million albums in the 90s????????

    Yeah, 30 million since 2000 is right, Martha.
    I can recognize that Mariah has sold A TOTAL of 150 million albums but not in the 90s. 150 million since 1990.
    Calculate albums of the 90s.. they won’t reach 150 million!
    And to Music Box:
    Don’t discuss.
    It’s sold as much as The Immaculate Collection. Even tough Wikipedia says: 30 million for the immaculate collection and 28 for Music Box.

    And for adding:
    Madonna has sold a huge more albums and singles since 2000 than Mariah!

  292. MOFF says:

    Martha, Look at that!

    I found this ad from the Mariah Carey homepage:

    “Mariah is the best-selling recording artist of today with cumulative sales of over 175 million worldwide.”

    So singles and albums has sold TOGETHER 175 million records.

  293. MARTHA IS A LIAR says:

    MARTHA IS A LIAR, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ACTUALLY THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION (32 MILLION) SOLD MORE THAN MUSIC BOX (28 MILLION)………….SO STOP BULL SH**ING, GET OUTTA HERE!!

  294. FACT says:

    BRITNEY SOLD MORE THAN MADONNA ??? WHEN ???

    FIRST OF ALL…..BRITNEY WAS THE BIGGEST SELLING FEMALE OF THE DECADE IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ONLY !!!

    IN THE REST OF THE WORLD, MADONNA WAS AGAIN THE TOP SELLING FEMALE OF THE DECADE AND THAT IS MORE IMPORTANT (CALCULATE)

    SO, THE ONE WHO SAID THAT A FRENCH MAGAZINE SAID THAT….LET ME TELL YOU THAT THIS MAGAZINE HADN’T GOOD FACTS ENOUGH, MOREOVER, YOU KNOW WHY MANY PEOPLE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT MOST INFO. OF MAGAZINE OF ARTISTS ?? BECAUSE MOST OF THEM POST FALSE FACTS, AND LIES.

  295. Zac says:

    Ok listen there re so many artists in this world and we just love to listen to the music. So everyone and I’m saying this as politely as I can just ignore sales ok cause it’s going to change sales or the perspective of people. it really wont. ok so just give it up Madonna might of sold more but Mariah has the passion and the talent.and I really think in the end the talent matters more.

  296. Meredith says:

    To ( ha ha hilarious Meredith & Gary)
    You think that you’re original with your “Ha ha hilarious” but you’re just ridiculous.And don’t dare treat me of liar ,I’m not like you.All that I said lean on real facts,not on proofless asserts. All that you said had no sense,you just repeat what other Madonna’s fans said before you.So your comments brings nothing new to reply.I already replied correctly at everything you talk about.Your ridiculous laughter doesn’t a grounded argument to challenge what I said.I’m not start off on music since yesterday or last year.I am musically trendy since my childhood.So I am in a position to know many facts about the evolution of Madonna,Whitney Houston,Mariah Carey,Celine Dion’s respective musical careers.I’m also read a lot about those artists as I am not border in English language texts ,but I read also on French and Spanish languages .I can even read a few of German language texts .I got this privilege over most of you.I am in position to don’t swallow anything at all that some entities claim today whatever how they are named.I am guided by what I known and learned through all my years of finding about those female artists.It’s obviously not your groundless speech who will shake my knowledge of divas careers that I’ve build through several years.You’re too much little for that!
    To Moff
    You said that in accordance with your own opinion, Celine’s total albums sales surpass Mariah’s.It’s normal as you like Celine and dislike Mariah.That’s show how much you are subjective. You don’t recognize that Music Box sold 30 million units worldwide ,but you accept that Fallin into you and Let’s talk about love are sold more than 30 million each.Then ,as you like Celine, you don’t challenge any exaggerated increase of her albums sold .However,every objective ones knows that Music Box sold more than TIC.Even websites who hate Mariah Carey recognize the sale supremacy of Music Box over the Immaculate collection.

  297. MOFF says:

    Yes.
    MARTHA IS A LIAR/ FACT you are right!

    I think we shouldn’t talk more about “The Immaculate Collection vs. Music Box”, it doesn’t make sense.

    And Britney hasn’t sold as much as Madonna.

    It’s a long way to reach that status.

    Madonna is the biggest selling female artist of the 80s and of that decade (2000s)

  298. Zakura says:

    Meredith:

    THERE are many objective sources that say that The Immaculate Collection sold more than 32 million and that Music Box sold 28 million (which is not true, because everybody knows that it sold 30 million)

    I am a huge Mariah Carey fan, but I guess that about The Immaculate Collection vs. Music Box = TIC wins =(, BUT , only for 2 million =)=)=)

    But who fu**ing cares about that ???!!!

    The point is that no matter if MANdonna sells more, the point is that MARIAH CAREY has the voice of an angel !!!!

    WHOREDONNA, PROSTITUTEDONNA just sells more but is a wannabe singer

  299. Zac says:

    Ok Madonna is not the most selling female artist of the 2000’s that’s so not true.

  300. MOFF says:

    But she is always among the Top 3.

  301. To Meloni & all others who said that Mariah is not huge in Europe says:

    It’s a misunderstanding to claim that Mariah Carey isn’t great in Europe.People may not like the music of an artist but,recognize that this one is and still a great artist.For example,it’s not because I don’t like Tina Turner or Elton John’s music that I don’t consider them as great singers and artists whatever if I live in Europe ,America ,Asia, Africa , West Indies, South America,etc…Well,Mariah Carey is very appreciated and respected at Europe,even if her commercial success doesn’t reach Madonna’s in this continent. If you ask someone in Europe to cite 5 great international females artists,Mariah Carey will be cited among some others,and if you ask an European to cite 3 great international pop vocalists,it’s obvious that Mariah Carey will be cited.So Mariah Carey is a great artist in Europe,even if she’s less successful than Madonna in this continent. At the talent searching competitions like X-factor, Star Academy ( France),etc… most of competitors try to perform songs from Mariah Carey. Doesn’t it a prove that Mariah Carey is considered as a great artist in Europe?
    Moreover, if you compare the success level of Madonna in Europe with any other female artist’s, you’ll see that Madonna surpass all them. So ,it’s not Mariah Carey who’s not loving at Europe,this is Europeans who like Madonna more than all others female artists.For example,Celine Dion doesn’t have more # 1 hits than Mariah Carey in Europe, neither top 20 or top 40 hits.Otherwise,nobody never challenge the popularity of Celine Dion in Europe.

  302. Martha says:

    To Moff
    How many times in this blog did you see that we talk about Mariah’s Millennium Award and Chopard Diamond award? Why in accordance with you did they honored Mariah specially in 2001? It’s because she were the best-selling artist of 1990’s decade with sales over 150 millions albums worldwide (without including singles sales).This is why I know that Mariah Carey sold 150 million albums at 2001.THE MILLENNIUM AWARD.
    Moreover,if you saw 500 millions albums sold claimed by Mariah Carey’s homepage,would you believe it? Would you tell it as truth in this blog ? Obviously no.In the same way,you must not believe 175 million albums and singles sold by Mariah Carey whether it’s publish by her own homepage or not,because in the both cases,it’s incorrect. You must not challenge only exaggerated increase figures sales,but also exaggerated decrease figures sales,independently of which source it come from.
    About Music Box sales,it’s in the same level sale than Falling into you and Let’s talk about love ( 30 – 32 million).And as source,don’t refer me to Wikipedia! It’s the worse source you could find!It’s even much more reliable to refer to rumors .Everybody knows that now.Even worse that the hate Mariah Carey particularly! It would be almost possible that they claim 10 million for Music Box while they put 30 million for The Immaculate Collection and 50 million for Falling into you!
    The Immaculate Collection it’s approximately sold at the same level than Daydream (25 – 27 million)
    I got the detailed list of Mariah Carey 1990’s figure sales .But I want you first to post Celine Dion figures sales proving that she really sold more than Mariah Carey.

  303. Meredith says:

    To =^.^=
    You talk about Madonna VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ? Face to MARIAH CAREY ???????
    You must be crazy,otherwise your ears doesn’t function normally !!! What Madonna voice got of unique ????? !! As you said that you don’t know Mariah Carey ,it’s forgivable.However ,on which planet do you live ? Pluto or Neptune? That’s a shame for you to ignore the best voice of the galaxy! You’d better shut up and stay out of here if you don’t know what we talk about .

    Moff
    Tell me how many world hits got Falling into you & Let’s talk about love? Did they get more hits worldwide than Music Box & Daydream? Otherwise what explain they reach over 30 million while Music Box doesn’t reach 30 million?
    In fact Falling Into You & Let’s Talk About Love are approximately in the same level sale than Music Box as Martha said it.

  304. Stephen says:

    Martha and Meredith are right.Moff ,you have the audacity to say that Celine Dion sales surpass MC’s? !! You must know that your thoughts and wish can’t change the real facts. You try to put Celine’s sales face to Mariah’s.But you lose your time cause Mariah’s sales beat Celine’s in real facts.Stop your lies , have a little bit of objectivity and let rule the truth.

  305. Francois says:

    To Comment 284 ( =^.^= )
    You said that you don’t know Mariah Carey but you said that Madonna inspires her.What do you mean ? did it have a sense? Your place is in a psychiatric center. You must know that the only musical influences who inspire Mariah Carey are the vocalists Aretha Franklin and Whitney Houston. Madonna can’t inspire a such talented artist like Mariah Carey as Madonna haven’t talent for her own.She can only inspire talentless artists like herself,who use their body and image to succeed in Music. Moreover, Just you can’t talk for the whole Europe! There is many Europeans who love Mariah and think the opposite.And you must know that Mariah is not a bitch unlike your mother or Madonna .

  306. peace says:

    All of you are right!

  307. MOFF says:

    Hey Martha, Meredith and all others..

    Sorry my big lies!! I didn’t say Celine has sold more than Mariah.

    Didn’t you recognized that I wrote Mariah is the best selling female artist in the 90s???

    She is!! And I cannot deny it!

    I don’t wanna push Celine sales up but : Music Box hasn’t sold as much as Falling into you or Let’s talk about love, they sold (a little bit) more.

    And yes, Mariah is popular in Europe as a great vocalist and seller. But she doesn’t have the Chart success and sells like Madonna.

    And please give me the source which says that Music Box has sold more then 30 million copies.

    Martha, whether you are a Mariah fan or not. You actually know that The Immaculate Collection hasn’t sold less than Music Box. You just have wanted to say that Mariah has a best selling album by herself which has sold more than the best selling album of Madonna.

    Why don’t you believe any sources declaring The Immaculate Collection has sold as much as Music Box?

    Real Music Workers and Companies know that The Immaculate Collection has sold more than Music Box.
    End of the story.

    Who cares about Madonna’s or Mariah’s voice?
    No one cares about that!!

    And Francois: We all know you are a Mariah fan.
    But I can disclaim your impertinent behavior!

    Don’t insult Madonna. I don’t say that you are an a**hole but you are because you said Madonna was a bitch.

    Realize Madonna is the most successful female singer on this planet!

  308. Gertrude Rily says:

    Alisha’s one awesome singer

  309. WTF ? says:

    Francois ?

    There are not a lot people in Europe who love Mariah, in fact, there is only a few people who like her there.

    AND STOP INSULTING THE MOTHERS OF ANY OTHER PEOPLE……..WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO INSULT YOURS ????

    And everything is beginning because of a stupid topic, my gosh, you have no life.

    Madonna is the best selling female artist and most successful in all the entire world, n everybody knows that because is a fact and has been proved lots of times.

    But it is not a motive for insulting , isn’t it ????

    In that case, just go and listen to Mariah and end of story.

  310. Alexis says:

    Zac:

    Well, first of all I hope you are fine my friend :D

    Now…let me tell you that in USA obviously Madonna was not the biggest selling female of 2000s, but it is not known yet what about worldwide.
    Some sources said Britney was in USA the highest one of the 2000s but now it’s not sure, because there are many other sources that say it was Beyoncé Knowles <— It is most likely that it was Beyoncé and not Britney.

    But as I said before, worldwide was not definitely Britney, Madonna sold more worldwide in this decade whether she is or not the biggest selling of 2000s worldwide.

    Now….for the ones who said that Celine Dion didn’t have hits with Falling into you like Music Box…………..the hits of Celine reached higher than Mariah worldwide, also in Europe. Maybe you don’t like the idea that Celine is more successful in Europe than Mariah, but it is a fact…………I mean: It’s all coming back to me now, Pour que tu m’aimes encore, Because you loved me, All by myself, etc….. + My heart will go on of let’s talk about love and also Tell him………….all of them were huge worldwide hits, while Mariah’s maximum hits of that time were only Dreamlover and Hero. And of daydream album were only fantasy, one sweet day and always be my baby.

    Personally, I am a huge fan of Mariah Carey, but also love Madonna and Celine Dion…….But we have to be objective about facts.

  311. Zac says:

    I agree with Francois

  312. MOFF says:

    Zac?
    Why??
    You agree with Francois?

    I can understand that you love Mariah more than Madonna but this is not a reason to insult her or other mothers!

  313. Zac says:

    Well Mariah inspires more people than Madonna cause of Mariah’s beautiful voice that’s all I agree with

  314. Francois says:

    Moff it’s you who are an a**hole not me,because your f*cking friend is the first who insult Mariah Carey before I insult Madonna,I just reply to him.Don’t you see it? By what right do you dare treat me a**hole? Why don’t you have balls enough for say to stupids fans of your Idol that they can anguish and discuss without using insults and swearwords against the lambs? But you prefer insult me cause all that Madonna fans do or say are right in your eyes since you are like them a Madonna fan .I don’t care about it, but don’t provoke and insult the lambs or else you’ll be sorry for that.
    Yeah Zac, we know that MC is the greatest voice ever,she inspire true artists with voice like Christina Aguilera, Beyonce Knowles,Leona Lewis,Backstreet boys,etc Anyone can’t deny it.Morever,don’t forget that MARIAH CAREY IS THE BEST FEMALE SINGER OF ALL TIMES !

  315. Lamb of the Lambs says:

    As Zac I agree with Francois.Why do Madonna fans are so hurt by Francois reply to ……..? Don’t you see he was the first who insult Mariah? Don’t you think that the lambs are also hurt like you do ,when you insult Mariah Carey? If you amuse to insult Mariah and her fans,you must accept the reciprocal they insult you and your fade idol Madonna cause everyone can use insults and swearwords.By what right do you insult lambs and refuse to accept them insult you? If you want to be respect,you must respect Mariah and her lambs.
    Long life to Mariah Carey the queen of vocalists and the best female singer of all times!!!!!!!!!

  316. Jacky the lamb says:

    Mariah Carey is really the best female singer of all times.Anyone ever can’t sing Emotions, Bliss, Can’t let go, We belong together, You’re so cold, Melt away, Loverboy, Mine Again, Fly like a bird, All I want for Christmas is you, Dreamlover, Migrate , If it’s over, Without you, I want to know what love is , You’re so cold, Fantasy, etc. Even WHITNEY HOUSTON can’t sing these songs.

  317. MOFF says:

    Ok Zac.
    I agree with you. Mariah inspires lot of people joining a Chasting Show like American Idol etc

    But who inspired Britney Spears?
    Who Christina Aguilera?
    Who Lady gaga?

    Today’s Pop Princesses are inspired by Madonna.
    But Vocalists like Leona Lewis, Kelly Clarkson and lots of others wannabe singers are inspired by Mariah Carey.

  318. Zac says:

    Ok MOFF I agree with a lot of what you say but Christina Aguilera’s main influence is Mariah Carey check this source youtube.com/watch?v=OgYacj5AS6g

  319. Zac says:

    And plus Lady Gaga and Britney Spears aren’t power singers like Whitney, Celine, Mariah not even close

    Madonna is a pop/dance singer just like Britney and Lady Gaga

  320. Stacy says:

    And talking about influence,Madonna influences artists only by her image ( clothing style,eccentricities,etc),but not by her music.However,Mariah Carey influences artists by her music ( singing style & skillfulness, voice).Therefore,Mariah is a great musical influence.

  321. Stacy says:

    To WTF and other Mariah’s Haters :
    You said that only a few Europeans love Mariah Carey but it’s false.It’s not because Madonna is most successful than Mariah in Europe that it’s just a few Europeans who love her.There is not more Europeans who love Shania Twain,Janet Jackson, Celine Dion,Whitney Houston ,Beyonce, Britney Spears,Barbra Streisand than Mariah Carey in Europe.Nevertheless,everybody usually admit that these female artists are loved by much Europeans.However,those female artists are in the same level of popularity than MC in this continent.Madonna surpass all them in Europe,not only Mariah Carey.Therefore,why when it’s about Mariah Carey,you don’t stop to precise her popularity size in Europe ?
    About insults of artists,we must reprimand not only people who insult our favorite artist,but also the ones who insult others’ favorite artists.Cause if we want to pass sentence the ones who mutually insult others’ respective favorite artist,we must blame in the first place ,the one who insult first others’ favorite artist.As we know ,each one defend he’s favorite artist.

  322. Scott says:

    MEREDITH
    To Alexis,Moff and other
    You say that Madonna is the world best selling artists of the 2000 decade,but you are wrong.In fact ,Eminem is the world best selling artist of the 2000 decade .Britney Spears and Beyonce Knowles are probably the 2 best-selling artists behind Eminem ( I am not sure yet).So,Madonna is not one of three best selling artists of 2000’s,as you supposed.

  323. Meredith says:

    Alexis, you said that Celine Dion Hits are most huge in Europe and worldwide than Mariah Carey,it’s FALSE. You lie Alexis,Music box and Daydream got more hits worldwide than Falling into you and Let’s talk about love and they was more huge than Celine Dion’s.Tell me how many #1 and top 20 hits got these two Celine album’s in Europe , Asia, U.S,Australia, South America etc. You cited a few songs of Celine without precise their place at chart singles and you said …All by myself etc. What do you mean by etc? you must be clear Alexis.Everyone who OBJECTIVE know that Celine Dion can’t compete with Mariah Carey at successful hits. My heart will go on was not more huge successful worldwide than Without you. MARIAH GET MUCH MORE AND GREATER HITS WORLDWIDE THAN CELINE ,THAT’S A FACT!!!!!!

    Music Box Worldwide hits

    Hero
    Without you
    Dreamlover
    Anytime you need a friend
    Music Box

    Daydream

    Fantasy
    One sweet day
    Always be my baby
    Open arms
    Forever
    Underneath the stars

    Celine Dion

    Because you loved me
    It’s all coming back to me now
    All by myself
    River deep mountain high

    Let’s talk about love

    My heart will go on
    To love you more
    Tell him

    Where did these albums (Falling into you & Let’s talk about love) got most hit songs than Mariah’s ? Can you precise for us ?

  324. MOFF says:

    Yes, that’s right Zac.

  325. Zac says:

    Thanks and I do agree with a lot you say too MOFF. You tell it like it is

  326. MOFF says:

    To Scott:

    Scott I meant Madonna is always (in each decade) among the top 3 FEMALE artists.

    Yes you’re right that Eminem is the best selling artist overall but best selling female artist is NOT Beyonce ..
    Britney is almost on the same level as Madonna in the 2000s but I suppose that Britney has sold more records during this decade.
    But whatever:
    If you calculate all three decades of Madonna 80s, 90s and 2000s … NO OTHER FEMALE singer can be in the Top 10 best selling artists.
    Madonna is the best selling female artist and has sold more than Mariah all in all.

    AND : Yes, Music Box and Daydream are good albums with huge hits.. not like Madonnas but they were huge.
    Celine has Not the hits Mariah has but her albums sell better.

  327. Meredith says:

    Scott,I know that Eminem is the best selling artist for 2000 decade,I don’t sure who is second or third.

    to Alexis

    MARIAH CAREY
    Hit Songs in some countries
    USA : 18
    Japan, New Zealand, Brazil : 7 ( for each one respectively )
    Canada : 6
    Philippines : 4
    United Kingdom ,Finland : 3
    Netherlands ,Australia : 2 (for each one respectively )
    Ireland,Belgium,Italy,Austria,Spain, Portugal, Israel,Croatia,Switzerland,Sweden,Germany,Taiwan,Hong Kong, China: 1 ( for each country )
    Therefore,Mariah got a total of 73 # 1 hits songs in 24 countries, with 23 different singles.
    CELINE DION
    France : 5
    USA : 4
    Canada : 4
    Australia : 3
    Sweden : 3
    United Kingdom ,Greece,Norway,Belgium,Spain : 2 ( for each one respectively)
    Japan,China,Germany,Argentina,Brazil,Finland,Pologne,Turkey,Denmark,Austria,Ireland,Netherlands,Switzerland : 1 ( for each one respectively ).
    Then,Celine Dion got a total of 34 # 1 hit songs in 23 countries.
    – Datas about Mariah’s and Celine’s # 1 hits in West indies and the rest of Latin American and Asian countries are very hard to find or unavailable,also for some European countries.Then,I just mention all that I can found .

  328. MOFF says:

    Yes Meredith you are right that’s the way I use for looking at the chart success of an artist.

    But you only have to choose the countries you are sure about that they have data of BOTH artists.
    For example you wrote down Greece at CELINE DION but not for Mariah Carey. You must put the same countries for both artists. Maybe: It could that Celine has number ones in Greece but Mariah doesn’t have one. Mariah therefore has number ones in Portuguese, but not in the case Celine Dion.
    (These are not facts, they are just examples for a better explanation)

    10 countries chosen:

    USA, Canada, Japan, UK, Germany, Finland, Spain, Australia, France, Switzerland

    MARIAH CAREY
    USA: 18
    Canada: 6
    Japan:7
    UK:3 (third actually with Helping HAITI)
    Germany;1
    Finland:3
    Spain:1
    Australia:2
    France: 0
    Switzerland:1
    TOTAL 10 countries chosen: 42 hits

    CELINE DION

    USA: 4
    Canada: 4
    Japan: 1
    UK:2
    Germany:1
    Finland;
    Spain: 2
    Australia:3
    France:5
    Switzerland:3

    TOTAL: 25 hits

    Although I chose same countries with chart facts MARIAH CAREY has MORE Hits than Celine.

    But I think actually only because Mariah has 18 number one hits in the USA and 7 in Japan.
    Mariah has more hits there. Only the Europe part Celine is on the same level as Mariah in case of hit songs.

    Alright?

  329. MOFF says:

    sorry I forgot Finland for Celine

    Finland: 1

    TOTAL: 26 hit songs

  330. Meredith says:

    I agree with you Moff,but you choose France for both artists nevertheless you know that Mariah haven’t # 1 hit in this country. So,You must remove it.

  331. Meredith says:

    And you say that Mariah got advantage only because she get 18 # 1 in US and 7 in Japan,but as everybody will see it,it’s false.For all the countries that I show in my precedent comment,Mariah got more than 2 times the total of Celine Dion’s # 1 hits.Even though you remove her 18 # 1 hits at US and her 7 # 1 hits at Japan ( 25 hits in total),Mariah would also win with a huge advantage over Celine.Moreover,Mariah got much more top 10,top 20,top 30 and top 40 hits in every countries worldwide than Celine Dion.

  332. MOFF says:

    Yes Meredith,
    Even if I don’t choose the USA and Japan, Mariah would win in other countries.

  333. Kris says:

    Oh my god ! All of you have no life. Go and get one !!

  334. BEST SELLING OF THE DECADE says:

    All right, some people here argued that Britney was the best selling female of the decade and the biggest selling male Eminem……That is right BUT…………

    I guess that what the Madonna fans said was referring to WORLDWIDE , and Eminem and Britney or Beyoncé were just the best sellers of the decade IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ONLY.

    Worldwide, Madonna sold more than Britney Spears, maybe Madonna was not the best selling female artist of the decade neither worldwide, but one thing is very sure and a fact…….worldwide, Madonna sold more than Britney Spears even in this past decade……moreover, remember that Madonna only recorded 4 studio albums in this decade, while Britney 5 and most sales of baby one more time of 1999 were counted from this decade.

    So…..most people know that Madonna sold more than Britney in this decade SPEAKING ABOUT WORLDWIDE, not in USA.

  335. Scott says:

    No,you don’t understand.I said the world,not America.Eminem is the best selling artist for the world,not only for USA.USA is a part of World,and when it ‘s added to the rest of the world ( Europe,Canada,Latin America,Africa,Oceania,Asia,etc..),the Eminem’s total sales surpass any other artist.And in the same way,behind Eminem,Britney Spears and Beyonce Knowles total sales surpass any other artists. Maybe Madonna sold more at Europe than those artists,but her total sales for the whole world doesn’t reach or surpass Eminem’s, Britney’s and Beyonce’s. Europe is not the whole world as America neither doesn’t. But together, with the other continents, they compose the whole world.

  336. MOFF says:

    Yes you are correct!!

    I also think that!
    But if I count Britney’s Album sales she has sold more than Madonna..
    Even if we don’t add the sales of Baby one more time.

    There are albums like Circus, Oops I did it again, Britney, in the Zone, Blackout, Greatest Hits, and the current, The Singles Hits collection.

    Madonna’s Albums:
    Music, GHV2, American Life, Confessions On A Dancefloor, Hard Candy, Celebration, IGTYAS and The Confessions Tour, Remixed and revisited..

    Has Madonna really sold more than Britney this decade?

  337. BEST SELLING OF THE DECADE says:

    Thanks Moff, thanks Scott:

    Now let me tell you something and analyze this…..

    Britney’s albums in this decade:

    *Oops I did it again – 17 million sold
    *Britney – 9 million sold
    *In the zone – 8 million sold
    *Greatest Hits: My prerogative – 5 million sold
    *Remixes – Not sure
    *Blackout – 2.5 million sold
    *Circus – 3.5 million sold
    *The Singles Collection – 0.6 million sold

    Total: 50.6 approximately…then you add the remixes sales if you know it

    –Madonna in this decade:

    *Music – 17.5 million sold
    *American life – 5 million sold
    *Remixed and revisited – 0.1 million sold
    *Confessions on a dance floor – 13 million approximately.
    *IGTYAS: 1 million
    *The confessions tour: 1 million
    *Hard Candy: 5 million
    *Celebration: 3.5 million

    Total: 46.1 million approximately….
    Exactly, maybe Madonna was the second…..But still is not a victory for Britney’s fans, because consider this………..

    The most important are studio albums, Madonna in this decade made just 4 and Britney 5….then you add the next important thing which is compilation albums……………the remixes and live albums are just for the full the rest actually………… Madonna realizes one less album than Britney and still, she is so close to Britney……….. I guess that what made her fail was American life, which was the only album of Madonna inferior to a Britney album (in the zone), the rest of it was because Madonna realized less albums, but for example, COADF sold more than in the zone, Hard Candy sold more than blackout and circus, Music sold 500 thousand copies more than Oops…. and sold more than “Britney”……….And about the compilation albums, celebration sold much more than singles collection……………………….

    So if Madonna is not in first place this decade is because of American life more than anything…..That’s why Madonna has been receiving more credit still in this decade by majorities…..So, is not victory for Britney fans at all

  338. Meredith says:

    Sorry, Moff. I forgot to read your comment # 326.You said that Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times.But we already deal with this question.Maybe Madonna is the best selling female artist of all times right now,but with a slight advantage over Mariah Carey,as we show it in our comments.You also said that Celine Dion’s albums sells better than Mariah Carey’s although she get less hits worldwide,but it’s false.Me, Martha and many others proved it with several grounded arguments . Although you’d hate Mariah very much,you must admit that Mariah’s albums sell better than Celine’s.This is rightly why Mariah was the best selling artist overall (male & female)of the 1990’s and won the Millennium Award.How many times,since 1996,all facts proved that Mariah is a better album seller than Celine (Guinness Book of Records,VH1 Divas live,Millennium Award,2002 Super Bowl,Chopard Diamond Award….)? Should we repeat all this once again ?Celine got more releases than Mariah,nevertheless,she sold less albums .Celine got only 6 albums reaching and surpassing 10 million sales.And she got much more flopped albums than Mariah (Unison,Celine Dion,One heart,Miracle,Taking chances… ).Among all her French albums ,only 2 are not flopped.Even Columbia label always claimed that Mariah is their highest selling artist (Celine Dion was also an artist of this label ) .
    However,if you talk about the 3 best selling albums of Celine Dion combined face to 3 Mariah’s,therefore Celine Dion would win not only Mariah Carey,but also Madonna.In fact,Celine would beat Madonna even better than Mariah.So you should say that Celine’s 3 best selling albums sold better than Madonna’s and Mariah’s.Otherwise,can you explain what you really mean ? Why do you hate Mariah so much ,to such an extent that you deny her achievements ?

  339. MOFF says:

    Yeah… but
    are you sure that “Music” has sold 17.5 million copies?
    Hard Candy 5?
    And Celebration 3.5?
    Where did you get these sources?

    And to Scott:
    I don’t think that Beyonce has sold more than Madonna.
    Beyonce is not a Global player than Madonna is.
    Her albums and singles sales are lower than Madonnas.

  340. BEST SELLING OF THE DECADE says:

    well…..I remember to see it on a newspaper published last year I think here in my country that published that according to RIAA, the sales were that…….But let me look for it again, it must be in my old stuff now LOL………..

    I’m gonna look for it and them I’m gonna tell you my sources, I hope they are real.

    Anyway, Madonna with less studio albums and less work is or close to Britney or definitely surpassed Britney, because what didn’t help her was American life………but who cares ‘ bout that ??? Majorities all around the world prefer much more Madonna and talk much more about her than Britney.

    All right Moff, when I find it, I will tell you my source….Hope I’ll find them again (so idiot right ? hehe I should have keep it in a safe place)

  341. Stacy says:

    You are wrong, guys. Anyway, Britney sold more than Madonna in this decade.And you forget a lot of artists which the success was specially huge in 2000’s.For example,Destiny’s Child would probably ranked in the third place.In fact,they are the best selling girl band of all times,right ahead the Spice Girls,with more than 75 million albums sold worldwide.They sold two quarter of this total in the 2000’s ( 50 million).So ,they could be ranked third best selling artists.Then come the Backstreet Boys (best selling boy band founded from 1990’s) with more than 95 million albums sold (in which ,at least 45 million sold in the 2000 decade). Therefore,they’d deserve the fourth place.Next,Beyonce Knowles is the 5th best selling artist of the 2000’s.So the top 5 best selling artists of the 2000 decade is :
    1-Eminem
    2-Britney Spears
    3-Destiny’s Child
    4-Backstreet Boys
    5-Beyonce Knowles
    Again,this without include a lot of 2000’s great selling artists like Usher,50 cent,Mary G Blige,Nelly,etc…The best selling artists of the 4 last decades are:
    1970’s-Beatles ( Elvis Presley as solo artist)
    1980’s-Michael Jackson
    1990’s-Mariah Carey
    2000’s-Eminem
    So,Mariah Carey is the only female singer who is the best selling artist of a decade.All others are male singers.

  342. For Stacy says:

    Stacy:

    Don’t be subjective ok ? You need to be precise when you are posting something ??

    In many parts you are saying, they deserve this….they deserve to be in this place…..You are not even giving real sources…..

    And if Britney sold more this decade, you have read what BEST SELLING OF THE DECADE said….so you’ll know why.

    It seems that the one who is wrong is you, and forgive me but you are generalizing everything……….in the 80s the biggest selling female artist was Madonna and she achieved more in that decade than what Mariah in 90s specially worldwide.

  343. Don't you understand ? says:

    All right guys all of you don’t understand or what ???

    When they are speaking about best selling of the decade they are referring to UNITED STATES only, and that is true.

    Just for to MTV web site or any other sources and you’ll see that when they speak about best sellers of the decade, they are just taking the sells in United States.

    And is totally different from WORLDWIDE.

    WORLDWIDE, Madonna registered more sales than Britney even in this decade with a slight difference, but Madonna realized less albums this decade any way and still beat Britney worldwide.

    ***

    NOW………….DON’T YOU READ THE TITLE OF THIS ENTRY ????

    MADONNA OR MARIAH CAREY ??????

    I DON’T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT MARIAH CAREY SO I WILL RESEARCH ….THEN I’M GONNA SAY WHO DESERVES THIS TITLE…….SO FAR, I GUESS IS MADONNA, BUT NOT SURE ABOUT IT………………….I’M GONNA LOOK FOR IT

  344. MOFF says:

    Ok guys..

    I agree with you.
    We should talk about sales WORLDWIDE and not only USA.

    Best selling MALE Artist of the 80s is Michael Jackson.
    Best selling female artist of the 80s is Madonna.

    And I don’t hate Mariah at all I only don’t like her music NOW- Her music back in the early 90s ( Without you, hero, fantasy) was so fantastic!
    But now? Sh** like Touch my body, Obsessed, We belong together, don’t forget about us??

    SH**

    Madonna is the best selling female artist of that decade.
    Not Mariah

  345. Michelle says:

    MARIAH CAREY ‘s
    Hit Songs in some countries
    USA : 18
    Japan, New Zealand, Brazil : 7 ( for each one respectively)
    Canada : 6
    Philippines : 4
    United Kingdom,Finland : 3
    Netherlands, Australia ,Spain: 2
    France,Cyprus,Ireland,Belgium,Italy,Austria,Spain, Israel,Croatia,Switzerland,Sweden,Germany,Taiwan,Hong Kong, Portugal,China: 1 ( for each country )
    Mariah got a total of 76 # 1 hits songs in 26 countries, with 23 different singles.
    CELINE DION’s hit songs in some countries
    France : 5
    USA, Canada: 4
    Australia, Sweden: 3
    United Kingdom ,Greece,Norway,Belgium, Denmark , Netherlands,Spain : 2
    Japan,China,Germany,Argentina,Brazil,Finland, Pologne, Turkey, ,Austria,Ireland, ,Switzerland : 1
    Celine Dion got a total of 37 # 1 hit songs in 23 countries,with 10 different singles.

  346. Stacy says:

    Meredith,about Mariah’s hits in Music Box,there is also the top 5 hit “Never Forget you”.So,as Daydream,Music Box got 6 hits:
    Without you
    Hero
    Dreamlover
    Music Box
    Anytime you need a friend
    Never forget you. So,Let’s talk about love got 3 hits,Falling into you got 3 hits too.
    It’s false.Madonna doesn’t accomplish more than Mariah in her first 10 years of career.It’s the opposite,as we show it in our precedent comments. We already deal with this question,guys. Madonna is a great singer and her total sales surpass Mariah’s .But we must give to her what really belongs to her. Don’t anger ,guys,I understand you.I feel the same when others deny the achievements of Mariah.I respect Madonna and I know that she’s actually the most successful female artist of the world . But Mariah is the second most successful female artist,Celine Dion is the third.

  347. Becky says:

    In accordance with their accomplishments ,Madonna and Mariah Carey are both the greatest female artists of all times.Obviously,Celine Dion & Whitney Houston are also great, but Madonna & Mariah surpass them .There is the list of 4 greatest female artists of all times ( in order):
    1-Madonna
    2-Mariah Carey
    3-Celine Dion
    4-Whitney Houston

  348. Stacy says:

    First,I’m not subjective.And now we talk about the sales worldwide for the respective decades ,not the sales only in the USA or in Europe .No matter if sales at Asia,Latin America,Africa,Oceania,Canada and Europe are more significant for a artist face to another one.The most important is the tota of the sales anywhere,not the size of sales in non- USA countries.WORLDWIDE mean USA,Canada,Europe,Asia,Africa,Oceania,Latin America.USA is not excluded in the world.What make you think that we talk only about USA for best selling artists ? Did the sources who assert that Destiny’s Child sold 75 million records ,mean that it’s only for the USA? The ones claiming that Backstreet Boys sold 95 million records ,mean only sales in USA? If it was the case,therefore Destiny’s Child and Backstreet Boys sales in US would surpass Barbra’s,Mariah’s and Madonna’s.Moreover,their worldwide sales would be more higher.All that I said were right.Yeah,I know that Madonna is the best selling female artist of 1980’s,but the list that I show composed with best selling artist OVERALL( male & female ).Michael Jackson is the best selling overall artist of 1980’s,not just best selling male artist.And Mariah Carey is the best selling artist OVERALL of the 1990’s,not just best selling female artist. Madonna was the best selling FEMALE artist of the 1980’s,not overall .Contrary to what someone of you said,Madonna didn’t accomplish more in her first 10 professional years than Carey in hers,we already show and proved it several times in our comments.And you beg me to give sources to support my asserts about Destiny’s Child,Backstreet Boys,etc…,How many sources did you cited to support yours? Did you forget that you don’t cited any source who claim that Madonna is the best selling artist of the 2000’s,or one of the top three ? And that you just supposed ? However, the facts speak by themselves.We all know the sales of Destiny’s Child and Backstreet Boys,so It’s just a logical question.Don’t get angry with me just because what I said doesn’t favored Madonna,I’m simply objective.

  349. MOFF says:

    Yeah Stacy I agree with you.
    We need facts and proves to cement our statements.

    Fact 1: Madonna is the best selling female artist of the world.

    Fact 2: Mariah is the best selling artist overall in the 90s but only in case of sales.

    Fact 3: Madonna has NOT sold as much albums as Mariah in the 90s but she had more hit singles worldwide.

    And is doesn’t matter if it is an artist overall or only male or female.

    Michael Jackson has had such a big success Madonna couldn’t top.
    In the 90s Michael Jackson’s success decreased.
    Mariah hadn’t really a rival to fight against.

    IF WE LOOK AT THE SALES OF AN ARTIST WE CAN DECIDE WHICH ARTIST IS MORE OR LESS SUCCESSFUL

  350. MOFF says:

    Since 2000 Eminem has sold the most records.
    I think he has sold over 70 million albums.
    Madonna although has “only” sold about 40 Million albums.
    (proof? Look at her album sales)

    But Madonna has sold much more singles.

    Look at “United World Charts” they research album and single sales.

    Britney, I calculated it, has sold more albums than Madonna but less singles.

    So: Madonna is surely in the top 10 of the biggest selling artists of that decade.

    We don’t need any sources we can check them out!

    And if you calculate all sales: Madonna has sold more records than Mariah and Celine in this decade!

    It doesn’t matter if I am a Mariah, Madonna or Celine fan – I am a person who looks at facts.

  351. MEREDITH says:

    Moff,I can understand that you hate Hip Hop or R&B music,but don’t say Mariah’s Touch my body,Obsessed, Don’t forget about us or WE BELONG TOGETHER !!! are Sh** ,cause these songs are very good and beautiful.Mariah is very perfect in everything she sing ,Pops,Ballads ,R&B,Gospel,Dance,Soul,Hip Hop etc.Even her remixes are very unique!! If it was a lamb who said first these same words about Madonna’s songs, you’d get certainly very angry .So ,Just say that you don’t like R&B music or Mariah’s R&B music.
    What do you mean by “Mariah Carey is the best selling artist overall in the 90’s but only in case of sales” ?? Doesn’t in case of sales, you claim that Madonna is the best SELLING female artist of all times ? And you say that Madonna sold more singles worldwide than Mariah in the 1990’s ?!!! Did you mean that Madonna is the only artist who get success out of USA ? You’re mistaken.How many the best selling single of Madonna did reach ? Everybody know that Hung Up doesn’t reach 8 million sales worldwide although it’s the best selling Madonna’s single.Even worse,in the 1990’s,( and also in the 1980’s)Madonna never had a single who got the success of Hung Up,so how her 1990’s single’s sales could surpass Mariah’s ? It’s also false cause Mariah was not only the best seller of albums in the 1990’s,but also the best seller of singles.It’s rightly what who made of Mariah one of best single sellers worldwide and overall.Mariah got more #1 singles than any currently active recording artist .Maybe Madonna total more sales of singles cause she release much more ones ,since 7 years ago before Mariah.Moreover,there is a great difference between Best selling artist overall and best selling male (or female )artist .Best selling artist overall mean that the sales of this artist surpassed all other artists, whether they are Males or females .But ,best selling female ( or male) artist mean that the sales of this female artist (or male artist) surpass ONLY other female artists, (or other male ones).Therefore,it’s a huge difference cause surpassing all male and all female artists is more significant than surpassing just male artists or just female ones.

  352. MOFF says:

    Yeah Meredith I agree with you.

    I know that “BEST SELLING MALE / FEMALE ARTIST” mean!
    Madonna has more hit songs WORLDWIDE than Mariah In the 90s.
    Don’t Forget “Vogue”, “Justify my love” or Frozen and Don’t Cry for me Argentina.
    These songs were more successful than Mariah’s number ones in America!
    Her only WORLDWIDE BIG success was “Without You”
    also Fantasy and Vision of love were huge successful outside the USA.
    But they don’t have the level of Madonna songs.
    Mariah HAS SOLD more albums but not more singles.

    But because album sales are huger in general than Single sales, Mariah Surpassed Madonna’s sales in the 90s.

    I don’t like Mariah’s songs NOW that’s my opinion.
    I know that Many other people still like Mariah’s songs.

  353. Markus says:

    blah blah blah

    I’m sorry but the RIAA still states that MADONNA is ranked second to Barbra while Mariah is still ranked behind the POP Queen, considering that to be only in the USA, take the world charts, I dare you.

  354. Markus says:

    it is also because MADONNA’s songs like VOGUE has a massive appeal to all ages that’s why she IS THE GAME WORLDWIDE, unlike Mariah’s songs, THEY only tackle broken hearts crap, one sweet day to bye bye, love takes time to butterfly to etc etc etc.

    Mariah’s songs don’t grow, they only intend to sell

    Madonna’s songs intend to educate, selling is the risk she takes as long as she liberates the audience.

  355. Markus says:

    MADONNA IS THE QUEEN OF POP
    SHE CAN SING AND DANCE

    Mariah can only sing.

  356. Markus says:

    Meredith,

    why don’t you compare MADONNA’s VOGUE to Mariah’s WE BELONG TOGETHER on sales.

    VOGUE is number 1 in 30 countries, for starters….

  357. Markus says:

    in the 80’s Madonna had to deal with a lot of Music Icons like Michael Jackson, Tina Turner, Prince, Whitney Houston, Dr. Dre, MC Hammer, Bon Jovi, Cyndi Lauper, Lionel Ritchie, Dionne Warwick, Janet Jackson, U2, George Michael, New Wave, Hair Bands, voice divas,etc etc etc….

    all have impressive vocals that have been praised throughout music history, yet MADONNA dominated the female category on US Billboard, MTV, the World Charts and GUINNESS.

    in the 90’s Mariah had no contention except Janet Jackson, Alanis, and Celine Dion, Boy bands, and grunge. It’s surprising that MADONNA landed 6th on decade of the 90’s top artists, Michael Jackson wasn’t even on the top 10 list.

  358. Abbie Lingel says:

    She has dropped out of her recent movie just days prior to filming was scheduled to begin, fueling rumors that the she is pregnant.

  359. MOFF says:

    Yeah Markus you are so right.

    Madonna is and will always sell more than Mariah Carey

    – Bad truth!

  360. Alexis says:

    All right, some of you told me to be more exact in my facts about Celine….But due to the fact that I’m not a huge fan of her as I am of Michael Jackson or Janet Jackson, I can’t because I don’t care too much about her :P haha

    But……what everybody knows some facts:

    In some things Celine beats Mariah and in another things Mariah beats Celine:

    Celine beats Mariah in :

    Tours, worldwide impact to people and actually is ranked to be a higher superstar (not exactly about hits but in general)

    Mariah beats Celine in:

    song hits, number ones, album sales (maybe with a slight difference),etc….

    BUT! it all depends on our music taste who we love more =) Personally I prefer Mariah’s music, but maybe someone of you would prefer Celine’s music……….

    Guys, let’s not fight all right ??? Let’s respect each other ok :D ??

    I won’t say anything about Madonna because even though she is the winner in all senses among female artists, there are more good artists :P

    SO LET’S LOVE EACH OTHER :D

    MICHAEL JACKSON, JANET JACKSON, MADONNA, THE BEATLES, MARIAH CAREY AND CELINE DION FOREVER !!!!

  361. GARY says:

    Moff, You said that Mariah Carey hadn’t really a rival to fight against at 1990 decade cause Michael Jackson 90’s success decreased. You are wrong Moff, Mariah Carey had a lot of huge rivals at this decade : Boyz ll Men, Ace of Base,Celine Dion, Toni Braxton, Shania Twain ,Backstreet Boys,Spice Girls ,etc. who added to 1980’s singers as Michael Jackson,Madonna,Whitney Houston,Janet Jackson,Michael Bolton, Bryan Adams, Elton John, etc… At 1980 decade,Madonna had obviously less rivals to fight against.

  362. MOFF says:

    Yeah Alexis!!!

    Finally anybody who doesn’t want to fight!

    We all have our artists and we should love them and not fight!!

    My favorite artists are:

    MADONNA, MICHAEL JACKSON, CELINE DION , MARIAH CAREY, WHITNEY HOUSTON, THE BEATLES, TINA TURNER!

  363. MOFF says:

    OK GARY,

    what about (80s) Whitney Houston, Tina Turner, Phil Collins, Bon Jovi, The Pet Shop Boys, Wham, a-ha, Alphaville, Depeche Mode, Culture Club, Cyndi Lauper, The Bangles???

    Typical stars of the 80s!!

  364. MOFF says:

    And DON’T FORGET MICHAEL JACKSON, the biggest one of all stars!

  365. Alexis says:

    MOFF:

    Now…..about what you said about Britney sold more in this decade, here is why:

    First of all, remember that most of the sales of Baby one more time were counted from 2000s (the other half was from 1999) and from then you have Oops…., Britney, In the zone, blackout, circus,greatest hits…….

    In total, we have 6 studio albums of Britney in this decade and…..Madonna only realized 4 studio albums in this decade and American Life didn’t help too much because of the flop that the scandals caused………..BUT, still, Madonna was behind Britney with a very slight difference in sales………….So Madonna has much more advantage, because she is so close to her with only 4 studio albums and one flop, while Britney had 6 studio albums and one flop.

    Moreover, majorities all around the world mention Madonna as a better seller than Britney and prefer much more Madonna than Britney……….that’s what the Madonna’s fan used to prove their arguments and I guess is really true……..Madonna has the advantage over Britney and is the winner.

    Is not that I have something against Britney, because I also think she is good, but the fact is that Madonna beats her…..moreover, add to that the tours :D

  366. MOFF says:

    Ok. Now Alexis, I understand what you meant.

    Yeah, Madonna wins (I also like Britney, but I prefer Madonna)

    You said that Madonna sold more with less albums and that’s right but independent from how many albums an artist releases.. Overall Madonna hasn’t sold as much as Britney.
    Yeah Madonna has sold more discs than Britney with LESS albums but Britney has sold a little more than Madonna with MORE albums.

    Right?

  367. Alexis says:

    MOFF:

    Exactly my friend :D that’s what me and that the comment above meant :P

    So, Madonna realizing less albums and selling more than Britney has much more merit than Britney selling a little bit more than Madonna realizing more albums, right ? :P

    That is the explanation why most people gives more credit to Madonna than to Britney Spears for this past decade….That’s why most Britney fans do respect Madonna and many of them don’t argue that Madonna beats Britney because is true :P
    and actually, it is NOT an opinion, but a simple fact……..’cause whether I prefer Madonna or Britney -> that is another point.

    And don’t forget about the tours :P hehehe

    Well……….Take care everybody :D

    Wish me luck for my final exams Moff hehe

    And don’t forget about the tours

  368. MOFF says:

    Yeah Alexis..

    Good Luck!!

    Everything alright with the tours!

    Confessions Tour: Most successful of an female artist until 2008, Stick and Sweet Tour: most successful tour of an solo artist, 2nd overall!

  369. MEREDITH says:

    Moff,Gary was already deal with you about popularity songs of these both artists,don’t turn back this question now.So ,don’t say that “Justify my love, Vogue,Frozen and Don’t cry for me Argentina were more successful than Mariah’s number ones , it’s false.Don’t search the causes or reasons which make an artist more successful than another one ,because the causes and reasons exist relatively for all people ( for example the reason which made Madonna best seller female artist at 1980’s ,was that Whitney Houston released just two albums at this decade. These Whitney album sold better than all Madonna’s at 1980’s). Moreover ,Mariah has sold more albums and more singles worldwide than any artist at 1990 decade.
    Markus, in accordance with RIAA,the difference between Mariah and Madonna sales at USA is just one million,not more. Besides,don’t say what you know about popularity songs. Hero, Vision of love,Always be my baby,one sweet day,Fantasy ,My all , etc… are huge at popularity next to all people,since children till old persons.And Mariah’s songs doesn’t incite anyone to immorality,but to love,true love, not intercourse.Her songs talk about many interesting questions that everyone could ask in life.
    How do you dare compare Vogue with the an incredible song like We belong together?? Don’t you know that We Belong Together is the most successful song at whole Billboard history , And it sold much more than Vogue ??!!How many the single of Vogue sold worldwide? HOW MANY ???

    Mariah Carey is THE QUEEN OF SINGERS OVERALL !!! She’s huge everywhere worldwide ,not only in US.You’d better read our previous comments.
    MARIAH CAREY IS THE QUEEN OF OVERALL MUSIC AND SHE’S A VOCAL ICON
    SHE SING LIKE NOBODY CAN DO,NOT LIKE A GRAND MOTHER ( at 40 ,her voice stay the best among all vocalists ).
    Madonna can dance, (anyone can dance,there are so many people who can do, even much better than Madonna.But how many people can sing like Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston ? As Simon Cowell said “ To sing a Whitney Houston song is very hard,to sing a Mariah Carey song is vocal suicide “ ).
    MARIAH CAN DANCE BUT she doesn’t because everybody can do it,so she prefer to do something that everyone can’t do,and something that she can made much more better than anyone ( so she dance only a few times).

  370. GARY says:

    For all of you who think that Celine Dion is most popular and is a huger superstar than Mariah Carey ,let me tell you:
    Unlike Celine Dion, Mariah Carey was always a huge diva and superstar worldwide since her first debut in 1990, with four hot 100 number 1 at Billboard U.S, Two number one in Canada,1 number one in New Zealand and Brazil,and a lot of top 10 and top 20 hits worldwide,two Grammys Awards and many others Awards distinctions. She was always a huger superstar than Celine Dion.
    The musical career of Celine Dion break through in 1994 with the integration of The power of love as her first number one at U.S Hot 100.But,Celine Dion’s success really begun to compete with Mariah Carey’s in 1996 with her fourth international release album “Falling into you”which got a huge success worldwide . Why do you think that Celine is a greater Superstar than Mariah?

    CELINE DION BEAT MARIAH IN :
    -World Tours (Celine wins)
    MARIAH CAREY BEAT CELINE IN :
    -Voice beauty (Mariah wins)
    -Singing Skill (Mariah wins)
    -Vocal Range(Mariah wins)
    -Talent (Writing,Composing,Producing,Arranging) (Mariah wins at 100%)
    -Influence and inspiration on other artists (Mariah wins with Huge difference)
    -Albums sales (Mariah wins)
    -Singles sales (Mariah wins with Huge difference)
    – # 1 Hit songs worldwide (Mariah wins with Huge difference)
    -Top 10,20 and 30 hit songs worldwide ( Mariah wins with huge difference )
    What do you mean about Celine Dion by “Worldwide impact to people” and “Higher Superstar” ?
    How just the world tours of Celine Dion can make her a huger Superstar than Mariah Carey? And Which impact do you talk about ? In facts,Celine never has as much impact to people as Mariah . Do you talk about impact to people in World Tours,while concerts ?If it’s what you talk about,so you’re right. Otherwise,can you explain ? How many artists claim Celine as their main musical influence ? What about Celine’s songs presence on worldwide talent searching competitions ( relatively to Mariah’s) ? Where did Celine is a # 1 musical influence ? Who is a worldwide Vocal Icon ? Celine Dion is just a performer , she’s even not a songstress,unlike Mariah Carey.Her songs are lacking of personality,of soul and of originality.She doesn’t contribute at all in their making .She just perform… under the management of producers.This is not very artistic from her and it seems too much like a job instead of artistry.After selecting some songs from composers and writers, hop! At recording studios! And even there ,the producers and the arrangers make all the work.It’s not astonishing that she made so much albums and that they have each 15 or 16 songs,this is relatively easy to her.She’s just a “music device or robot,manufactured in the style of 1990’s vocalists ”.There’s anything inside : any talent,any personality,any originality,any creativity.She just do what producers tell her to do.But all this make of Celine more a worker than an artist.Although personally,I know that she have some good albums ( The Colour Of My Love,Falling Into You & Let’s talk About Love.
    Alexis,as you said it,let’s not fight .My respect toward Celine Dion still intact . But as everybody know,we have to be objective.She’s a good singer ,and my third favorite female artist behind Mariah and Whitney( personally,I think that it’s paradoxical to like just one of these three artists and dislike the others ).For Madonna,my favorite songs are Like A Prayer,La Isla Bonita,Like A Virgin and You’ll See.

  371. YOU MEREDITH says:

    SEE HOW SUBJECTIVE YOU ARE !!!!

    FIRST OF ALL YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT MARIAH CAREY IS THE QUEEN OF MUSIC !!! MARIAH CAREY IS THE BEST !!!!! ———> THAT IS NOT A FU**ING FACT THAT IS YOUR FU**ING OPINION!!!!!

    HOW WOULD YOU DARE TO SAY THAT WE BELONG TOGETHER WAS MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN VOGUE WORLDWIDE HUH ???”

    BE OBJECTIVE PATHETIC LOSER………. MADONNA IS THE ONE WHO HAS SOLD MORE SINGLES AND ALBUMS WORLDWIDE THAN ANY OTHER FEMALE ARTIST AND IS MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THE MOST IMPORTANT IS BEING A NUMBER ONE IN ALL THE WORLD….. AND MARIAH CAREY WAS ONLY #1 IN USA………… MADONNA OWNS THE REST OF THE WORLD WHICH IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.

    MADONNA IN THE WORLDWIDE CHART (UNITED WORLD CHART) HAS BEEN ON TOP FOR MORE TIME THAN MARIAH CAREY.

    STOP POSTING SUBJECTIVE COMMENTS MAKING THEM LOOK LIKE FACTS AND BE OBJECTIVE.

  372. YOU MEREDITH says:

    AND STOP SAYING MARIAH SONGS ARE MORE POPULAR CUZ THAT IS NOT TRUE……

    I FU**ING HATE WHEN SUBJECTIVE LAMBS TRY TO SAY THAT MARIAH IS A WORLDWIDE ICON WHEN SHE IS NOT……….AND MANY OF HER SONGS ARE NOT EVEN REMEMBERED BY CHILLDREN NOR GRANDPAS……………….MADONNA SONGS ARE REMEMBERED BY ALL PEOPLE……………….WE BELONG TOGETGHER WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL SONG IN BILLBOARD….YEAH BLA BLA,,,,,,,,,,AND WHAT ELSE ????

    WHAT ELSE CAN YOU SAY ??

    ABOUT MADONNA…..PFF WE HAVE LOTS OF WORLDWIDE RECORDS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN WE BELONG TOGETHER OF MARIAH………… JUST BECAUSE U THINK IS AN INCREDIBLE SONG DOESN’T MEAN IS THE HUGE STUFF IN ALL THE WORLD……… ONE THING IS THAT YOU LOVE IT AND ANOTHER THING IS THAT SOCIETY TAKES CARE OF IT….

    BE OBJECTIVE AND ACCEPT THAT MADONNA’S SONGS ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL WORLDWIDE IN CHARTS AND ARE NOW CLASSICS……… AND MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN MARIAH CAREY’S SONGS……… MARIAH CAREY ONLY WITH WE BELONG TOGETHER WAS 6 WEEKS IN THE WORLDWIDE CHART AND MADONNA MORE THAN 15 WEEKS WITH HUNG UP <................JUST AS A PART OF THE RECORD.AND IF YOU ARE GONNA BE SUBJECTIVE LIKE A TYPICAL LAMB AND BULLSH**T, SO GET OUTTA HERE !!!

  373. The Objective one says:

    Why Madonna is the best selling female artist – not Mariah Carey

    #1:
    First of all, Madonna has much more sales in a smaller continent (Europe) than Mariah Carey in a bigger continent (America, Asia).

    #2:
    Mariah is not yet the biggest selling female artist in America, she hasn’t surpassed Barbra Streisand yet, neither Madonna.

    #3:
    Madonna also has diamond certificated albums in the USA. And when one speaks about Europe, one is not even mentioning all the countries of Europe but that doesn’t make the importance of an artist.

    #4:
    Maybe Madonna doesn’t sell so much in Asia but when she goes to tour there, she causes much more sensation there than Mariah. The tickets for her “Confessions Tour” in Tokyo were sold out in a record breaking time of 5 minutes only Mariah’s only in 31.

    #5:
    Madonna’s world hits are more popular worldwide than the Mariah songs.
    It’s proved by sales and chart success.

    #6:
    Mariah Carey isn’t more successful than Madonna in America and the reason why many of Madonna’s last songs haven’t been in good chart position there, is because Madonna doesn’t give promotion to her songs, but when she makes tours, the tickets in USA are sold out in record breaking time in giant stadiums. Mariah in contrast has been struggling to full an arena of 3000 people and she didn’t make it.

    #7:
    Guinness World Records published in 2000, in 2007 and in 2008 that Madonna is the best selling female artist because her sales surpass 338.600.000 millions of records sold. Guinness never mentioned Mariah as the best selling female musician.

    #8:
    Mariah received lots of Millennium Awards and received the Chopard Diamond Award. But why major part of the world doesn’t even know that? Most people are still considering Madonna as the world’s biggest selling female artist of history.
    Madonna doesn’t need to receive those kinds of awards to prove who she really is.

    #9: 300 million records are not only estimations, and even though they were, use common sense: Estimations are almost always approximated to the real sales.
    She has sold more than 380 million records and it was officially published by Warner Brothers Inc. And not because it’s her company, it’s because they counted right.

    Answering to Not-Believers

    1. Why Madonna didn’t get more World Music Awards than Carey in her entire career?

    Madonna doesn’t need to prove anything with Awards, she’s still the best selling female and everyone knows it.
    Madonna’s been focusing since the beginning of her career to another types of records, she actually doesn’t care too much ‘bout sales. Many times she has even rejected awards and invitations. And according to many sources, Madonna hasn’t replied invitations for World Music Awards lots of times.

    2. How many records did Madonna sell when Mariah won the Millennium Award in 2000 and the Chopard Diamond Award in 2002?

    By the time Mariah received those awards, Madonna was already known by the major part of the world as the biggest selling female. Guinness World Records have published that she sold more than 338 million records.
    In case of albums, she had already more than 200 million albums sold, the rest were singles.

    3. Why it wasn’t Madonna who got honored for selling the most albums and singles worldwide?

    Madonna didn’t reply to some invitations of World Music Award.
    She was honored by Guinness. And today, the Guinness Book is much more respected and more important than a World Music Award.
    Mariah Carey with her Millennium and Diamond Award was still irrelevant for millions of people. Even polls and websites accord Madonna is the biggest selling female artist and the one who people prefer much more.

    5. If it’s true that Madonna sold more discs than Mariah, when Madonna’s
    sales did catch up with Mariah’s?

    Madonna had already millions of albums sold in advantage over Carey when Mariah started, but although Mariah or Madonna had the same years of career (which is not); Madonna would be still on the top and doesn’t need awards to demonstrate that.
    And anyway, Madonna has much more valuable awards than Mariah.

    6. When did they exceed Mariah’s sales?

    Even in this decade Madonna’s been beating Mariah.
    Madonna was more successful in the 80s than Carey in the 90s; she also received awards for being the best selling female of the decade.
    In the early 90s, Madonna wasn’t so successful because of her scandals. (Erotica, SEX…). In the middle of the 90s, Madonna wasn’t making studio albums. But by the end of the 90s, she came back, returned to the top and began to sell more than Mariah Carey.
    That’s why Madonna didn’t receive that Award. How do you want to get an Award if you haven’t really worked on an album?
    They preferred Mariah because she produced lots of studio albums during the 90s.
    Madonna has much more success than Carey in the whole world.
    The only place where Mariah could be bigger is in parts of Asia (Japan, Korea, Taiwan etc.) But Madonna instead, has much more sensation when she goes there than Mariah. Madonna tickets in Asia are sold out immediately and more quickly than Carey’s ones. And if Mariah was a more successful star in the USA, she would do the same as Madonna, because people would want to see her 18 number ones live, but why doesn’t that happen?

    Conclusion:

    Madonna beats Mariah Carey in all senses apart from vocal skills.

    Awards aren’t that important.
    The last word still has the audience.
    Madonna may doesn’t have those awards but she wins with her record sales, her touring and the support of much more people around the world than Mariah Carey.

  374. MEREDITH says:

    TO “ YOU MEREDITH”
    See how OBJECTIVE I am. I not subjective at all, but you do. then it’s you who refuse to recognize Mariah Carey fulfillments.I recognize all Madonna’s without deny nothing in them ( she sold slightly more albums than Mariah and more singles).But you refute all Mariah’s supremacy over Madonna ( Talent,Voice,Sing Skill,Revolution of Pop Music,Musical Influence on other Artists,Musical Records,etc… ).You’re rightly so subjective that you said Mariah’s achievements are just MY OPINION,this is all you find to deny them,but unfortunately THIS COULDN’T NEVER MAKE IT.All objective people who will read this entry will see it very obviously (the true objective ones,not crazy Madonna’s fans who hide under this designation ).In accordance with you,Madonna is the only international female artist in the world,but it’s FALSE.She just got more success in Europe than other female artists.Maybe she got a slight more success over other female artists at some countries composing the rest of the world.But,it doesn’t mean that other female artist ( like Mariah,Whitney,etc..) are just national artists,cause their sales ,fame and popularity proves the opposite..In facts,who got the record of best selling western album in Japan ? China ? Who is the # 1 musical influence in several countries ?Who is the best selling artist in Asia ? Who got the record of most consecutive weeks at # 1 in Brazilian hot 100 ? Do you think that just a US sensation could achieve this records ? Who got a classic Christmas song worldwide ? Who revolutionized world Pop Music (by collaborating with Rap & Hip Hop artists ) ? Mariah got all these records and achievements,and obviously several others ones worldwide.Just these ones proves that Mariah is a world sensation and not just a US phenomenon.She’s a vocal icon worldwide, today.About Madonna’s total sales The difference between her US sales with the rest of the world ones is approximately the same than Mariah’s at US and at the rest of the world ( this proves that their respective popularity outside US isn’t very different and that Mariah is also a great artist out of US ).Madonna just got more hit songs than Mariah’s at world hit parades,and also most sales outside US.And we know the difference ( 200 million albums sold to Mariah and 210 million ones to Madonna).Moreover,Mariah is the second female best seller of singles worldwide. The number of Madonna’s hit songs supremacy over Mariah outside US is not proportional to the advantage of her sales outside US over Mariah .The respective total singles sales of both artists proves it.
    To defend your idol Madonna,all that you got is just sales,sales and again sales (Almost nothing else).As you know Mariah beats Madonna in all musical fields ( except sales,although Mariah is rightly second to Madonna at this point ).So,what you find to decrease Mariah’s fulfillments ? You try to reduce them at US alone,but you wouldn’t make it. Mariah’s records and fulfillments are WORLDWIDE achievements . Even when I know that it’s obvious,let’s see Some facts proving that Mariah’s achievements are world achievements and have GREAT impacts on music in general( Even more than many Madonna’s) :
    -In just 20 years of career,Mariah sold 200 million albums ( in which 63,5 million for US ).In accordance with all Mariah haters who claim that Mariah is just a US sensation,where did the 137 million remaining are sold ?
    In accordance with Billboard:
    In 20 years of career,Mariah sold 63,5 million albums at US alone.
    In 27 years of career,Madonna sold 64,5 million albums at US alone. Among the both,who is the most successful artist at US ?
    -Mariah Carey is the best selling western artist in Asia
    -Mariah Carey is the second,third and fourth best selling female artist in several countries .
    -Mariah Carey is one of three female artists who got the most # 1 ,top 10,top 20 & top 30 hits song hits in the world .
    -Mariah Carey’s music influences 80 % of today’s artists whether they are in Asia, America, Canada, Australia or even Europe.
    -Mariah Carey revolutionized Pop Music.Her Remix of Fantasy revolutionized Pop music today. She’s the first pop artist to work with a rapper ( Fantasy Remix).Since the success of this song,every pop artist begun to sing with hip hop artists , in such a way that it’s a standard for all pop artists now.Even Madonna isn’t an exception to this norm.
    We say that MARIAH CAREY is THE QUEEN OF MUSIC for the same reasons (even more reasons ) than the ones of you who said MADONNA is THE QUEEN OF POP.First,you are trying to say that Madonna is the queen of Music in general, just because she beat Mariah Carey with a slight difference in sales,and got more hits in Europe.You deny all others Musics records that Mariah Carey got but Madonna hadn’t as if they aren’t important.In accordance with you,all merits which have importance for an artist stay the sales and the songs hits outside US. You forget that Madonna is not the only artist in the world who got songs hits outside US. Mariah got songs hits outside US too. Maybe Madonna got more than Mariah ( Madonna also got 7 active years over Mariah Carey and release more singles).In facts,she just got most number 1 songs hits at Europe than Mariah,as Mariah got most songs hits than her at US.
    Why can’t you specify the size sales of VOGUE single worldwide if this song was so successful worldwide as you said ? You see obviously that number 1 hits in several European countries doesn’t mean more success at sales .Madonna got more number 1 hits in Europe than in US although she sold more albums in US than in Europe.So,it proves that US is a greater music market than Europe. Don’t forget that USA is constituted of more than 50 States (as Europe is constitute of more than 30 or 40 ones).So,it’s not more significant to have number 1 hit songs at Europe than at US.And you say that it’s my opinion about WE BELONG TOGETHER’S quality,but the facts proves the opposite.In fact,the sales of We Belong Together show clearly that what I said is the opinion of most people than yours about Vogue.
    Can you say the top 10 best selling Singles of Madonna ?

  375. Simple fact says:

    Meredith:

    Just let me remind you that Madonna has reached much number ones than Mariah not only in Europe……….but Worldwide…in the United World Chart..so that has much more merit that in a country of 50 states–> anyway, that has nothing to do with the importance of an artist in music…..don’t mix the number of states with real importance of an artist….

    Actually Mariah is fantastic, but the most successful female artist and biggest selling in entire American continent, Europe, Africa and Oceania (also in the Asian parts of Russia) is Madonna with more than 380 million album sold according to IFPI, RIAA, GUINNESS BOOK…..same sources that say that Mariah has sold 170 million….For only 7 years of difference is a lot.
    So, Meredith, actually you have my total respect, not like that pathetic person who insulted you…but sometimes you are objective and sometimes you really don’t……Madonna is more successful with a huge difference over Mariah……..but Mariah is more talented because of her singing and writing skills

  376. Simple fact says:

    Meredith:

    let me remind you that being many weeks in number one in the AIRPLAY of Brazil does not really prove the supremacy of an artist…..actually, Madonna has had much more number one songs in Brazil than Carey, so obviously she beats her.

    Maybe Mariah is better seller in Japan and I know that because I live here….but Madonna in the rest of the continents sells much more……Meredith, I also like Mariah Carey and I definitely not hate her, but in terms of success and total sales….Madonna is the absolutely queen…………Madonna also inspired a lot of artists, maybe not because of her voice but because of her image.

    Finally is our own musical taste…I prefer Madonna (and the major part of the world I must say) but there are also a lot of people like you who prefer Mariah and that is totally respectable. As Alexis said, let’s not fight…..and don’t even respond to pathetic idiots like “YOU MEREDITH” who only are insulting others.

  377. MEREDITH says:

    We never denied the fact that Madonna has more number one hits worldwide than Mariah.However , a Madonna’s fan ( Markus )challenged the success of We Belong Together face to Vogue.HE said why I didn’t compare Madonna’s Vogue to Mariah’s We Belong Together on sales.In accordance with what he said, Vogue is by far a greater song than We Belong Together because it reached number one in 31 countries.I proved him that We Belong Together was more successful than Vogue by its sales and its records.Although Vogue got more success in charts worldwide, We Belong Together got more success next to public, as it was sold much better than Vogue. We Belong Together was much more than an ordinary number one song,it was the most successful song by a female artist through all Billboard history and got a lot of other records.So,even though it wasn’t a number one in several countries,it was more successful than many others songs just reaching # 1 in several countries. I didn’t mix the number of states with real importance of an artist.I just wanted to show you that a number one in many non-USA countries doesn’t mean more sales than a # 1 at US only,as all Madonna’s fans always claim ( besides,We Belong Together reached # 1 not only in USA,but also in some other countries).
    Actually,Madonna is more successful than Mariah,but her total albums sales isn’t 380 million but 210 million.I already said it many times,I repeat it once again. All facts proved that Madonna’s albums are sold 210 million on maximum,all of us saw it.About Guinness World Records and all other sources ,they make a big mistake to claim 380 albums sold by Madonna.Guinness,IFPI,FORBES,etc… will never can prove this number by detailed data, because everyone know the true sales of each Madonna’s albums.Unless Guinness World records and others bought certainly the 170 million remaining of this silly 380 million ,as it’s just 210 million which are proving by her sales worldwide.No matter which institution claim 380 million for Madonna’s,the fact is she doesn’t sell this number. So Madonna sold 210 million of albums and Mariah sold 200 million ones,the difference is 10 million for 7 years .All of you who say anything to defend Madonna (without analyze the arguments claiming by some sources and their validity) destroy the credibility of your sources and yours instead of convince people of your asserts,because everyone know approximately the real sales of each album of Madonna. Thanks for your respect,I respect all of you too,but I must tell the truth and stay objective.And don’t worry about the ones who insult me cause I can reply to their insults very well.
    About Brazil First, Mariah’s I Want To Know What Love Is got the “Record of longest running number 1 song in the Brazilian Singles Chart History,spending 27 consecutive weeks atop the Chart”, not just “many weeks on number 1 in the Brazilian AIRPLAY”.It’s much more important than some ordinary number 1,because it’s a huge RECORD.
    About the sales of both artists in the continents,let’s the facts speak by themselves.And This is YOU ( Madonna fans ) who always claim that Mariah is a great artist just in USA,but I proved the opposite. And we know that Madonna inspired a lot of artists because of her image.But Mariah inspired more artists because voice and talent touch more artists than image.Madonna got more fans and supporters,but Mariah inspire most artists.We never denied the greatness of Madonna although all Madonna’s fans show that they have a particular hostility against Mariah Carey.When something’s positive or exaggerated is said about Celine Dion ,Britney Spears,etc.., Madonna’s fans doesn’t reply,or just reply calmly . However, when someone say something positive about Mariah ( often without provoke Madonna ),it hurts you particularly and You ( Madonna’s fans ) immediately said all you find to frustrate their asserts,even if it ‘s an established fact .For example,without proving facts,all Madonna’s fans accepted that Celine’s total albums sales was 200 million ( before the 170 million proved by facts ).However,with proving facts,the same number was challenged by you just when it comes to Mariah Carey. Moreover,you always admit Celine Dion ,Britney Spears,Whitney Houston,etc..as great superstars worldwide.However,you always isolate Mariah Carey and claim that she’s a great superstar ONLY IN USA .Nevertheless,Mariah surpass all those artists in many achievements & records out of USA.In accordance with their respective accomplishments,Madonna deserve the titles of Queen Of Pop & Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times, Mariah Carey deserve the titles of Best Female Singer Of All Times & Female Artist Of All Times .

  378. MOFF says:

    Yeah Meredith, you are totally right!!

    Even though I like Madonna more, I’ve already told it to you, I must recognize your detailed reply. It’s awesome that somebody can prove the reality and show it to others who just believe what the media say.

    OK
    I think everything which is discussed in all details by Meredith, Alexis, Martha, Markus, the objective one, Stacy, Tiffany, and MOFF should be reputable.
    Everyone tried to explain one’s opinion, one’s researched facts and details.

    Whatever a person says, don’t insult the opinion of somebody, just because you have another one.
    And unfortunately, that happened.
    For everyone here in this debate, this should be a place where people can bring out their opinions. And it should be a brashness for the ones, who insulted any others!

    We know the real facts now and this debate is a only one of few examples where people insult others….

    About sales: Meredith, 380 million albums is often mistook. They (Guinness, RIAA,…) mean total sales. So singles + album. And if you add single sales 380 will be right.

    The topic’s called “The Top selling female artist Madonna or Mariah Carey”

    And we have the solution and for the one who still think Mariah has sold more records: Wrong

    Madonna is the top selling female artist.

  379. Alexis says:

    HI MEREDITH:

    Yeah, I’m totally agree with you. However, not all Madonna’s fans are like that.

    I’m not gonna tell you about the records of We Belong Together as I don’t know them very well…but there is something that I’m gonna tell you WITH TOTAL RESPECT TO YOUR PERSON AND TO MARIAH CAREY:

    When you are giving some records of we belong together and try to say that is more important than any number one of Madonna outside USA you are totally wrong, because you are completely ignoring the super records that Madonna has in the worldwide charts in radios, sales and impact to the public….we belong together was an excellent record, but there are also songs of Madonna that were number one worldwide but that had superior worldwide records than we belong together……Even though we belong together also did super in the world and is a fantastic song…but you need to be more exact and if you analyze, if you take this record of Mariah, there will come many records that you should say about Madonna before disqualifying her.

    Now, it is not true about Mariah sold 200 million albums worldwide, because everybody knows that Mariah Carey sold more than 170 million albums worldwide……Now, I’m gonna tell you the reasons why most of people actually say or think that Madonna sold more than 380 million albums worldwide….. is because they take care more about IFpi, RIAA, GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS (that actually has been more respected than any musical sources because their honesty and so approximate facts) maybe the numbers of Guinness are not exact, but are so approximated, so if they have published three twice that Madonna sold more than 380 million albums, that must be true approximately.

    Let’s not argue about that, you say that everybody knows that Madonna sold 210 million but that is actually false, the reality is that everybody knows that Madonna has sold more than 380 million albums.

    That has been proved a lot of times and we don’t need to convince anybody of that because is something known already by majorities.

    Believe me, even though Guinness or Forbes are not musical sources, they are very important because they touch records of any topic very approximated and many times have been more exact than many musical sources like RIAA or IFPI which many times the put a certain number, and the next day they use to put another one different.

    That would be a reason why many people know that Madonna has been much more successful than Mariah.

    And is not something subjective, actually, my favorite artist is not Madonna and I’m not a super fan of her, but I have to be objective and recognize that speaking about sales and success, Madonna is the one who rule over Mariah Carey and with a big difference.

    But, Mariah Carey has also been one of the most successful female artists of all time and has had a precious gift that is very important.

  380. A fan of Mariah & Madonna says:

    Well, as you can see, my Nick name says it all hehe.

    Guys, as Alexis and some other people said: we don’t have to argue and fight with each other of who is the best…maybe some of you will think that for me is easy to say it because I am a fan of Madonna and Mariah Carey, but believe me that I use to fell more frustrated than an only Mariah fan or an only Madonna fan, because you don’t know how happy I would be if I saw the two teams united.

    Now, something that Mariah fans who hate Madonna must accept is that is true that Madonna is the most successful female artist of all time.

    Meredith, of course that is true that everybody knows that actually Madonna did sell nearly 380 million albums, is not a lie as you say….as well as is true that Mimi sold 180 million albums and that is something perfectly known by everybody

    But, Madonna fans who hate Mariah must accept that the best voice of the world is from Mariah Carey and she has better writing skills than Madonna, specially when writing love songs.

    But, there is something that everybody must see:

    Both women have different interests and convey different messages with their music in their very own way.

    Madonna: Touches different themes against racism, abortion, love, and messages to the world to stop making mistakes that would end with our world—> that topic she touches in a rude way, but very effective.

    Mariah Carey: Their messages are about basically about love, and having faith towards the problems so you can go on….as she said before: “after every storming, if you look hard enough, eventually a rainbow appears” =) hehe.

    Now: Mariah has been a great influence for many artists like Beyonce, Christina Aguilera, Kelly Clarkson, etc….. because of musical style, voice, etc….

    But, let’s not disqualify Madonna as an influence in a musical way, maybe she is not a great musical influence, but add that to her influence about image and that makes her as a real influence artistically, because as you know, image is also something really important as an artist.

    We already know that Madonna has been much more successful and a much better seller than Mariah Carey, but Mariah Carey has a much better voice and a special sensibility towards music that Madonna hasn’t.

    Finally, is our very own point of view who we will chose. I’m not gonna choose just one of both because I really love them both at the same level. But maybe someone of you prefer Madonna (like part of majorities I must say) or Mariah (a very huge amount of people as well)……….but one thing is very sure—>no matter what haters would say, nobody will bring them down or try to make them appeal as something they aren’t.

    Finally:

    Watch this video ^^ I’m sure you will like it. It has been made by a fan of Mariah Carey who wants love & peace for Madonna and Mariah’s fans:

    youtube.com/watch?v=FSG0ocwttvI

  381. A fan of Mariah & Madonna says:

    youtube.com/watch?v=FSG0ocwttvI

    Meredith: you are wrong about Madonna didn’t sell 380 million, that is actually true and everybody knows that.

    But well, anyway….I’m a huge fan of Mariah and Madonna at the same level and I want everybody to watch this video

    youtube.com/watch?v=FSG0ocwttvI

  382. Rob. says:

    Mariah has sold around 160M albums since her debut & from a recent article posted by Billboard she has sold 31M singles in the USA according to the RIAA. So without taking into account her single sales in Japan, Europe and the UK, she has already sold 191M records. Which is an amazing achievement. She is the most successful international female artist in Japan, out selling any other female artists by a lot. Although not on the scale of Madonna or Celine she has still been amazingly successful in Europe! Mariah has sold around 220M WW.

    Madonna has had a remarkable career. She has sold around 170-175M albums. Why do I say 230M? Or some ridiculous number like that. That’s because there’s no actual proof of her sales in the 80s. Although probably extremely high, there’s no way of knowing, since sales weren’t tracked by then. Anyway, her single sales are probably the highest of all female artists, around 70M, meaning she has sold around 240M WW. This is an accurate figure – not 450M and all of those crazy numbers. Although Mariah has success with her tours and made a lot of money, Madonna and Celine are the female artists that are owning that area in the industry.

    I’m a lamb and I love Mariah. But I’m not stupid. Mariah is the second most successful female artist of all time. Madonna is the first. Whether that changes remains to be seen. Like nowadays, Lady Gaga. She could easily surpass Madonna and Mariah at the rate she is going. Already within a few years she has sold over 12M albums and over 40M singles. 52M records in like 3 years. That’s very impressive.

  383. BRANDON says:

    Hi everybody,I’m a Michael Jackson fan,but sometimes I listen Cher,Britney Spears, Gloria Estefan, Madonna , Mariah Carey ,etc….Moreover,I’m interested in music question in general then I found this entry.This debate is very interesting and I send my congratulations to all Madonna’s and Mariah Carey’s fans, particularly to Moff and Meredith. Meredith argue and discuss very well…She also give many information. I love you all. Personally I prefer Madonna,but my brother Kevin prefer Mariah Carey.The both are gorgeous and great artists worldwide.

  384. BRANDON says:

    However,We must recognize that Guinness Book of Records,World Music Award and others sources estimations are very exaggerated and inexact sometimes. It would be more persuasive to everyone if you bring arguments and show by detailed facts your asserts so that everyone can see the truth easily,instead of repeat after Guinness,World Music Award,etc… In facts,who didn’t know the opinion of Guinness, WMA, IFPI ,Billboard and Forbes about those artists’ sales ? That’s why there is this kind of entry : for allow well-advised people to exhibit what they know and show us what they learned from facts.But ,don’t fight and just argue and bring arguments,I follow the debate.Peace.

  385. MEREDITH says:

    Brandon : Thanks ,it’s nice from you.
    Moff : I agree with you Moff,your reasoning is right.In facts,if Madonna sold 210 million of albums and 170 million of singles ,the total would be 380 million,it’s plausible.But I don’t know if Madonna’s total singles sales would really reach 170 million.Moreover,don’t forget that Mariah is a better singles seller than Madonna,compare their respective 10 best-selling singles and you’ll see that Mariah got the advantage.Madonna got advantage only by the number of her singles released.I don’t yet find their respective total of singles sales,but I’ll look it up.Anyway,there is a slight difference between Madonna’s total sales and Mariah Carey’s (till proof of the opposite).However,what you said got much more sense than Alexis’. I hope that you’ll stay objective in your reasoning.
    Alexis : Thanks for your respect .
    Alexis, About what you said ( we Belong Together )first I don’t disqualify Madonna’s hits.I just show that Mariah’s hits are greater than you tried to claim (“ you”means Madonna’s fans ,not Alexis personally). You said that there are number one songs of Madonna worldwide which HAD SUPERIOR WORLDWIDE RECORDS THAN WE BELONG TOGETHER. Alright, now cite and clarify all them to us ,with the respective records they got.I await them.And also ,give to us all other Madonna’s records you talk about in your post.
    You must know that as Madonna’s fans,your role is to show and prove Madonna’s records and achievements,not to deny or decrease Mariah’s.The both artists can have many respective records ,so you can prove Madonna’s fulfillment without necessary decreasing Mariah’s! It’s not Mariah’s fans role to prove Madonna’s records ,since they don’t deny or decrease them ( personally, I don’t know many records of Madonna.I just know that she got numerous # 1 song hits worldwide,in hit parades.So,I would like you show me her records ).We don’t disqualify Madonna when we show Mariah’s achievements,we prove that Mariah is a great artist and deserve the titles of Best Female Singer Of All Times and Female Artist Of All Times.But,you too,you can bring arguments ( since she get proving arguments )to show and prove that Madonna really deserves the titles you claim she have .However,you spend much more times on denying and decreasing Mariah’s fulfillments than on proving Madonna’s.This is your main problem.
    About Mariah’s album sales,we already proved by many detailed facts that her total reach 200 million and Madonna’s 210 million.You said that everybody know that Mariah Carey sold more than 170 million albums,Who do you mean by “ everybody “ ? Madonna’s fans or ill advised people ? Well, we are not here in this entry just for repeat what everybody say,but to find the truth by facts and proof about what is usually said by “everybody “ . When I said “ everybody know that Madonna’s total album sales is 210 million” ,I meant people who are not blinded by Madonna’s fanaticism.

    About Madonna’s 380 million albums sold claimed by Guinness Book Of Records,IT’S FALSE ! There’s no one who believe in this silly assertion , except for subjective Madonna’s fans obviously.Come on Alexis,we are not stupids ! Since when proofless asserts were more credible than proved facts ? In facts,why people would believe something who cannot proved instead of something else who is clearly proved ?Just because it’s Guinness, IFPI, etc… who claim it ???!! Even thought they’d stupids,they’d never accept proofless asserts instead of proved facts !
    There is ANY source and institution above doubts since their asserts are NOT PROVED ! Guinness ,IFPI,Forbes,etc…are all constituted of HUMANS,as any others institutions.Their credibility lie in what they claim and do,not in what they are.There is any valid reasons you cited which would make people believe in the 380 million claimed by Guinness…Moreover,in all entries,forums and sites that I read about Madonna’s total album sales,I usually see 200 or 210 million albums sold for Madonna ( sometimes even claimed by Madonna’s fans ) ,Never 300 or 380 million.They know that Madonna’s detailed sales could never match with this silly sizable number.Now Alexis,give to us the detailed figure sales of Madonna’s albums proving that their total reached 380 millions worldwide,otherwise everybody will see that you’re a very subjective person.
    Besides,you said that the 380 million has proved a lot of times ,but it’s false. Guinness never proved the 380 million,otherwise,can you remind us ? By what did the 380 million albums sold were proved.
    You also said that Guinness Book of Records is more respected than any Musical source cause “ their honesty and approximate facts”. How do you know that these sources are honesty ? Just because they exaggerate the true Madonna total sales ? Where did you get this subjective information ? And what do you say about the other sources ( WMA,Billboard,etc…)? They are not honesty ,cause they doesn’t increase the true Madonna’s total sales at 380 million albums ? Let me tell you something: RIAA, Billboard and World Music Award are the greater musical sources and the most reliable. They are specialized on musical questions ,studying ,supervising and following the sales of each album since their release till their relative stabilization sales.That’s why they always know how many each album is sold worldwide and their increase through the years.They supervise ALL albums sales,not only best selling albums ,since their release .Guinness Book of Records doesn’t make all this work cause it’s not specialized in music question and doesn’t get a particular authority on music question unlike RIAA,World Music Award or Billboard.Its main role is to publish the records in every fields ,when they are established.For example,about the Madonna’s 380 million albums sold,Guinness probably just pick up this number from Madonna’s label ,without checking it ( as we know,some labels grows exaggeratedly the sales of their artists )and just publish it.Then,in accordance with Guinness,this Record is established ,so published without any previous supervision of the sales . Anyway, Guinness is a more reliable source for established and checked records ( Example: The most Grammys Award winner, the richest person,the taller man,woman,etc… )than other records inspected by specialized institutions,which require deep previous analysis.So,RIAA,World Music Award and Billboard are and stay the better sources which can say something about music statistic.
    A fan of Madonna & Mariah : Thanks,I watched the video and I think that it touches me.And I understand what you said.Me too,I dream that MC’s fans doesn’t quarrel with Madonna’s fans anymore. But,first of all,there is the need that the both sides come to an agreement,otherwise it’s impossible. Personally,in my previous post,I admit that Madonna deserve the titles of Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times & Queen Of Pop.However ,I claimed the titles of Best Female Singer Of All Times & Female Artist Of All Times to Mariah Carey,but it seems that its hurt Madonna’s fans.So,it’s not the lambs who doesn’t want to collaborate,it’s Madonna’s fans .We don’t really know what they expect from us ( lambs ). Besides,actually we don’t really fight,we just looking for the truth .About the 380 million albums sold by Madonna,I know that Guinness, IFPI, etc…claim it many times and that there is many people who believe in it ( in which most are subjective ones and ill advised ones ).Therefore, it’s not because many people believe in it that it’s a truth.Personally, I never believe in something who got hidden proof. Let’s try to discover why Guinness claim 380 million for Madonna ( good or bad motivation) .Do you really think that Madonna got 200 million of albums sold over Mariah Carey?I don’t think so. It’s a totally mistake,any fact never proved it.Don’t you know the number of Madonna’s three best selling albums ? Compare them to Mariah’s.The total of 3 Mariah’s surpass Madonna’s.Moreover,Mariah got more albums reaching and surpassing 10 million than Madonna ( 8 for Madonna and 10 for Mariah ). There is many facts proving that Madonna doesn’t really 380 million albums even though most of people believe in this number.Here is one of them : IT’S IMPOSSIBLE THAT MADONNA SOLD 380 MILLION ALBUMS WORLDWIDE
    AS : USA IS MADONNA’S WORLD GREATEST MARKET ,HOWEVER,SHE SELL 64,5 MILLION ALBUMS THERE.EUROPE IS HER SECOND BETTER CUSTOMER ,ASIA IS HER THIRD,OCEANIA AND CANADA HER FOURTH,LATIN AMERICA HER FIFTH,AFRICA HER SIXTH.HOW MANY ALBUMS DID MADONNA SOLD IN THESE RESPECTIVE CONTINENTS AND COUNTRIES ? ( WE ALREADY KNOW FOR USA,HER GREATEST CUSTOMER ).BELIEVE ME ,THE GREAT TOTAL OF ALBUMS SOLD IN ALL THESE CONTINENTS AND COUNTRIES COULD NEVER SURPASS 210 MILLION . MOREOVER,HERE IS THE LIST OF 12 BEST SELLING ALBUMS OF ALL TIMES BY FEMALE ARTISTS :
    1-THE BODYGUARD ( Whitney Houston )
    2-COME ON OVER ( Shania Twain )
    3-JAGGED LITTLE PILLS ( Alanis Morissette )
    4-FALLING INTO YOU ( Celine Dion )
    5-LET’S TALK ABOUT LOVE ( Celine Dion )
    6-MUSIC BOX ( Mariah Carey )
    7-BELIEVE ( Cher )
    8-BABY ONE MORE TIME ( Britney Spears )
    9-THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION ( Madonna )
    10-OOPS I DID IT AGAIN ( Britney Spears )
    11-DAYDREAM ( Mariah Carey )
    12-WHITNEY HOUSTON ( Whitney Houston )
    This is the list of the 12 best selling albums from female artists,known by everybody.As you see it, I don’t put the figure sales to avoid fighting.However, how many Madonna’s albums do you see in this top 12 best selling albums list ? If she were really sold 380 million albums,don’t you think that AT LEAST THE 6 TOP BEST SELLING ONES SHOULD MADONNA’S ? However,she got just one,and the ninth.

    Furthermore,there’s nothing who could show that we ( MC’s fans) hate Madonna.Everyone will see it through most of our posts we was always concentrated on proving Mariah’s records and achievements,unlike Madonna’s fans which contented with deny and decrease MC’s fulfillments instead of proving Madonna’s.I really want peace between MC’s & Madonna’s fans.But first,let’s see what Alexis will bring to us ( as he got the proof of the Madonna’s 380 million albums sold by Guinness Book of Record ).

  386. FRANCOIS says:

    Alexis,as you claim that Madonna’s total album sales is 380 million ( in accordance with Guinness, IFPI ,Forbes…),please give us the detailed list of Madonna’s album sales proving that the total is really 380 million.Don’t forget to also give us her top 10 best selling singles,so that we see who said the truth and who lied.We all await them now.

  387. Christopher --- Hey Alexis says:

    Hey Alexis:

    You don’t need to prove them anything….don’t you see their tricky comments ??

    They don’t show achievements at all is just that Meredith debates great.

    Guys, visit this:

    We know that Wikipedia is not so good, but believe me, its sources and links are pretty reliable and true

    es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Discograf%C3%ADa_de_Madonna

    There you will find everything !!!

  388. Christopher says:

    es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Discograf%C3%ADa_de_Madonna

    Look for each detail….as you may notice….Madonna’s fans are so lazy to find her amazing achievements when the idiots can’t see that many of them are bigger than many of Mariah….as well of many of Mariah are bigger than Madonna.

    MARIAH fans love to look more about her achievements…

    But yeah, as Meredith say…. Madonna is the most successful female artist of all time and best selling.

    I leave the source there again and begin looking for any source and everything….Alexis must be too lazy for that

    es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Discograf%C3%ADa_de_Madonna

  389. Alexis says:

    As I am a fan of Mariah and Madonna………….and as someone here said, Alexis is too lazy….yeah, I’m too lazy for looking out for details and sources….Actually I’m not subjective, is just that I guide for the first I see…….I just looked for Guinness and RIAA, as well as WMA for Mariah and the back cover of adventures of Mimi DVD………..

    If there is someone who prove all about Madonna and Mariah, go ahead….I0m not gonna spend all my beautiful day looking for idiot things when I can spend it making a lot of great things in life…Sorry guys

    Think whatever you want about me..don’t care

  390. Someone says:

    Meredith:

    Just watch this:

    You say that any people who say Madonna sold 380 million because Guinness published it in 2007 and 2008 are subjective and fanatics of Madonna….and that everybody objective doesn’t believe in it ?? can you prove it ?? You know it perfectly well, don’t you ???? THAT HAS NO SENSE…..BE OBJECTIVE IN THAT SENSE!! so you know all the persons you know Madonna sold 300 million right ??
    I agree with you in many things but actually in that part you are being so subjective.
    Come on for God’s sake, analyze what you say….you are generalizing and actually if someone say Mariah sold more than 200 million is so objective no ?

    There you prove as well that you are not so objective at all and in big fantasy of Mariah Carey.

    Come on, analyze what you write……..many people are not even fans of Madonna or even haters of her like some fans of MJ or Janet say that Madonna sold nearly 380 million because it has been something proved already.

    NOW: ONE THING: I’M NOT GONNA COME BACK TO THIS WEB SITE, I WAS JUST LOOKING AROUND, BUT JUST ANALYZE IT…..IS NOT FOR YOU TO ANSWER IN A COMMENT, JUST THINK OF IT..IS YOUR HOMEWORK.

    AND NOW, YOU’VE SAID THAT YOU DON’T KNOW MOST OF THE RECORDS OF MADONNA RIGHT ???

    SO JUST POST THE ONES YOU KNOW OF MARIAH AND LEAVE IT LIKE THAT !!! AND STOP MESSING AROUND WITH MANY THINGS YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW !! COME ON !!!

  391. MOFF says:

    OK GUYS!!!!!

    EVERYBODY WANTS TO SHOW OPINIONS and WE ALL SHOULD RESPECT THAT!!

    OK I think the main topic now is “Guinness and Madonna’s 380 million”

    To Guinness: I know that Guinness sometimes is not very detailed. For example the citations that says Michael Jackson’s Thriller has sold 110 million copies.. Actually one music experts know that it’s false.
    It’s about 60 million, now after his dead, the sales are standing about 70 million – I suppose.

    My thought to the 380 million is, like I’ve already told it is that Madonna’s COMBINED SALES reach 380 million.
    We talk not only about ALBUMS, we talk about ALBUMS AND SINGLES
    So 380 is totally right WHEN WE PUT THESE SALES TOGETHER.

    I – as a Madonna fan – know that Madonna can’t reach 380 million ALBUMS ONLY because I know Madonna’s album sales.

    So Guinness: is clarified.

    Now again to Mariah’s album sales.
    Meredith I respect you.
    But you’re list of the biggest selling album of female singer is not quite right.

    – Baby one more time hasn’t sold more than TIC.
    – Cher’s believe is NO WAY in the Top 10
    – Oops I did it again can’t be in the list because it has sold LESS than Like a virgin and true blue and you know that exactly.
    And there are so many proves proving that.

    And to single sales:

    I don’t think that Mariah has more top sellers than Madonna.

    do you all mean physical singles sold or everything combined?
    Examples

    -4 minutes more than 7 million
    -hung up more than 8

    Plus: Madonna’s top sellers in the 80s were like a prayer and like a virgin with both over 4 million.

    Vogue has sold over 6 million.

  392. Becky says:

    As many previous posts claimed it,Mariah is very popular worldwide,not only in USA.For example,people of China have voted Mariah their favorite international female artist. She was featured on the cover of the Chinese magazine Crazy English Reader. The readers of the publication participated in an online poll, which asked who the best international diva was. 77% of the readers voted Mariah as their favorite diva. Whitney Houston and Celine Dion only received 23% combined ). Madonna received 0 % .

  393. Michelle says:

    Hey everybody, just stop the bull crap here! Come on, Alexis ,Markus,Chris & Moff! Martha,Stacey,Maredith,Michelle, all those bitches need to be fu**ed by you, guys. Exactly as Alexis did to Meredith. Give it to them ,Markus Vs Stacy,Moff Vs Martha,Alexis Vs Meredith !Let’s go!!!!!

  394. Michelle says:

    Hey !! COWARDS !! DON’T USE MY NICKNAME TO POST YOUR B*****,OK ??? STUPIDS COWARDS !!!

  395. X WOLF says:

    OK,it’s me who wrote the post # 392 in the nickname of Michelle.So What ?? I’m not afraid by YOU !!!

  396. MOFF says:

    What do you want from us?

    Michelle and Becky are the same person?
    And who is X WOLF? Also Michelle?
    i don’t understand it and I am not going to understand it because it has nothing to do with the discussion here.

    the topic is called: Madonna vs. Mariah Carey – Who is the best selling female artist?
    #And not who fights better…

    I wouldn’t like to fight against Meredith or Martha because many of the things they post is very true und shouldn’t be ignored or anything other.

    And why do some people still debate?

    We have the clarification: Madonna is the best selling female artist.

  397. Michelle says:

    What you say ? Are you crazy ??!! This fool use my nickname!! Even I would crazy,I’d not fool enough to post insults against myself and against other lambs .I’d rather insult Madonna’s fans obviously!!!I am the true Michelle.This fool named XWolf already post a stupid comment ,in the reply # 250 !!

  398. STACY says:

    I don’t think Michelle would insult other lambs,neither with this kind of comments.This fool had nothing better to do with his time,so he try to frighten lambs.But,it’s useless,and anyway,Mariah is the second Best selling Female Artist of Times and the best Singer Overall of All times.Sorry for Pathetic cowards and losers.

  399. MOFF says:

    Just beside…
    I hope you all know the United World Charts a company which look for sales and airplay success for songs and albums of artists.
    I think this is the most important Chart Track .
    It’s not USA, not UK, Not Germany, IT’S WORLDWIDE:

    Hey Jude Beatles 18
    I Will always love you Whitney Houston 18
    I Gotta Feeling Black Eyed Peas 17
    Macarena Los Del Rio 17
    Believe Cher 16
    Candle In The Wind Elton John 16
    Hip’s don’t lie Shakira 16
    My Heart will go on Celine Dion 16
    HUNG UP MADONNA 15
    Apologize One Republic 14
    LIKE A PRAYER MADONNA 13
    Irreplaceable Beyonce 12
    MUSIC MADONNA 12
    Wherever Wherever Shakira 12
    4 MINUTES MADONNA 11
    Don’t Punk With My Heart Black Eyed Peas11
    Mack The Knife Bobby Darin 11
    Without Me Eminem 11
    Hey Ya Outcast 10
    Jumpin’ Jack Flash 10
    Let It Be Beatles 10
    Sexy Back Justin Timberlake 10
    This Love Maroon 5 10
    Umbrella Rihanna 10
    Can’t Get You out of My Head Kylie Minogue 9
    Hello Goodbye Beatles 9
    Honky Tonk Women Rolling Stones 9
    Jailhouse Rock Elvis Presley 9
    Lady Marmalade Christina Aguilera 9
    Oops I did it again Britney Spears 9
    AMERICAN PIE MADONNA 8
    Boom Boom Pow Black Eyed Peas 8
    Crazy in Love Beyonce 8
    Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car Billy Ocean 8
    I’m A Believer Monkees 8
    Poker Face Lady Gaga 8
    Somethin’ Stupid Frank Sinatra 8
    Something Beatles 8
    That’s The Way It is Celine Dion 8
    The sweet escape Gwen Stefani 8
    Theme From ‘A Summer Placeb Percy Faith & His Orchestra 8
    Tik Tok Kesha 8
    Tom Dooley Kingston Trio 8
    Venus Shocking Blue 8
    Wanna Dance With Somebody Whitney Houston 8
    Yeah Usher 8
    A Whiter Shade Of Pale Procol Harum 7
    Baby One More Time Britney Spears 7
    Bring Me To Life Evanescence 7
    Faith George Michael 7
    Genie In A Bottle Christina Aguilera 7
    Get Back Beatles 7
    I Kissed A Girl Katy Perry 7
    Lady Madonna Beatles 7
    Love don’t Cost A Thing Jennifer Lopez 7
    Nothing Compares 2 U Sinead O’Connor 7
    Sorry Madonna 7
    Survivor Destiny’s Child 7
    (Now And Then There’s) A Fool Such As I Elvis Presley 6
    All You Need is Love Beatles 6
    Bad Michael Jackson 6
    Bad Romance Lady Gaga 6
    Beatiful Christina Aguilera 6
    Cathy’s Clown Everly Brothers 6
    Dirty Diana Michael Jackson 6
    I Just Can’t Stop Loving U Michael Jackson 6
    I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) Aretha Franklin & George Michael 6
    If I were A Boy Beyonce 6
    It’s All In The Game Tommy Edwards 6
    One More Try George Michael 6
    Shape Of My Heart Backstreet Boys 6
    TAKE A BOW MADONNA 6
    Tequila The Champs 6
    The Ballad Of John and Yoko Beatles 6
    The Letter Box Tops 6
    Walk Like An Egyptian Bangles 6
    White Flag Dido 6
    All I Have To Do Is Dream Everly Brothers 5
    Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Green Day 5
    Candy Shop 50 Cent 5
    Express YourselfMadonna 5
    Feel Robbie Williams 5
    It’s My Life Bon Jovi 5
    La Isla Bonita Madonna 5
    Lonely Boy Paul Anka 5
    Massachusetts Bee Gees 5
    Penny Lane Beatles 5
    Right Round Flo Rida 5
    Toxic Britney Spears 5
    WE BELONG TOGETHERMARIAH CAREY 5

    Here is a list with Songs which have been number one for more than 5 weeks!
    (I wrote Madonna BIG, so you can find her easier. -Mariah, too)

    Title
    Hey Jude Beatles 18
    I Will always love you Whitney Houston 18
    I Gotta Feeling Black Eyed Peas 17
    Macarena Los Del Rio 17
    Believe Cher 16
    Candle In The Wind Elton John 16
    Hip’s don’t lie Shakira 16
    My Heart will go on Celine Dion 16
    Hung Up Madonna 15
    Apologize One Republic 14
    Like A Prayer Madonna 13
    Irreplaceable Beyonce 12
    Music Madonna 12
    Wherever Wherever Shakira 12
    4 Minutes Madonna 11
    Don’t Punk With My Heart Black Eyed Peas 11
    Mack The Knife Bobby Darin 11
    Without Me Eminem 11
    Hey Ya Outcast 10
    Jumpin’ Jack Flash 10
    Let It Be Beatles 10
    Sexy Back Justin Timberlake 10
    This Love Maroon 5 10
    Umbrella Rihanna 10
    Can’t Get You out of My Head Kylie Minogue 9
    Hello Goodbye Beatles 9
    Honky Tonk Women Rolling Stones 9
    Jailhouse Rock Elvis Presley 9
    Lady Marmalade Christina Aguilera 9
    Oops I did it again Britney Spears 9
    American Pie Madonna 8
    Boom Boom Pow Black Eyed Peas 8
    Crazy in Love Beyonce 8
    Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car Billy Ocean 8
    I’m A Believer Monkeys 8
    Poker Face Lady Gaga 8
    Somethin’ Stupid Frank Sinatra 8
    Something Beatles 8
    That’s The Way It is Celine Dion 8
    The sweet escape Gwen Stefani 8
    Theme From ‘A Summer Place Percy Faith & His Orchestra 8
    Tik Tok Kesha 8
    Tom Dooley Kingston Trio 8
    Venus Shocking Blue 8
    Wanna Dance With Somebody Whitney Houston 8
    Yeah Usher 8
    A Whiter Shade Of Pale Procol Harum 7
    Baby One More Time Britney Spears 7
    Bring Me To Life Evanescence 7
    Faith George Michael 7
    Genie In A Bottle Christina Aguilera 7
    Get Back Beatles 7
    I Kissed A Girl Katy Perry 7
    Lady Madonna Beatles 7
    Love don’t Cost A Thing Jennifer Lopez 7
    Nothing Compares 2 U Sinead O’Connor 7
    Sorry Madonna 7
    Survivor Destiny’s Child 7
    (Now And Then There’s) A Fool Such As I Elvis Presley 6
    All You Need is Love Beatles 6
    Bad Michael Jackson 6
    Bad Romance Lady Gaga 6
    Beautiful Christina Aguilera 6
    Cathy’s Clown Everly Brothers 6
    Dirty Diana Michael Jackson 6
    I Just Can’t Stop Loving U Michael Jackson 6
    I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) Aretha Franklin & George Michael 6
    If I were A Boy Beyonce 6
    It’s All In The Game – Tommy Edwards Tommy Edwards 6
    One More Try George Michael 6
    Shape Of My Heart Backstreet Boys 6
    Take A Bow Madonna 6
    Tequila The Champs 6
    The Ballad Of John and Yoko Beatles 6
    The Letter Box Tops 6
    Walk Like An Egyptian Bangles 6
    White Flag Dido 6
    All I Have To Do Is Dream Everly Brothers 5
    Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Green Day 5
    Candy Shop 50 Cent 5
    Express Yourself Madonna 5
    Feel Robbie Williams 5
    It’s My Life Bon Jovi 5
    La Isla Bonita Madonna 5
    Lonely Boy Paul Anka 5
    Massachusetts Bee Gees 5
    Penny Lane Beatles 5
    Right Round Flo Rida 5
    Toxic Britney Spears 5
    We Belong Together Mariah Carey 5

  400. MOFF says:

    It shows you the titles of artists which have been number one for more than 5 weeks.

  401. MARIA-ROSE says:

    Alexis,Meredith,Moff,and others, you are all wrong. REBA MC ENTIRE IS THE BEST !!! She blow Mariah,Madonna,Whitney and all others away in everything : talent,originality,success and popularity !!! Reba sold more than 100 million albums worldwide ( not including singles sales ). She’s the most selling female artist of all times !!She’s also more beautiful and more human !!!

  402. DIVAS ACHIEVEMENTS says:

    CELINE DION BIOGRAPHY & MAIN ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS

    ( If Someone knows others Celine’s ,Whitney’s ,Madonna’s or Mariah’s main Records and Achievements,just put them down there .Bring only the most significant ).
    NAME : Celine Claudette Dion
    HEIGHT : 5 ft 8 in ( 173 cm)
    Birth date : 1968
    WEIGHT : 55 – 60 kg
    OCCUPATION : Singer, Entrepreneur
    GENRES: Pop,Dance,Ballads,Soul,French Pop.
    ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS :
    -World Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times ( 2004-2005 ,after Mariah Carey )
    -Actual Third World Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times
    -Best-Selling French Album with D’EUX,The French Album
    -Two albums ranked in the top 10 best selling albums by Female Artists
    -One single ranked in the top 10 best selling singles by Female Artists
    -Second richest female singer of all times
    -Fourth highest Grossing selling Tours (behind Madonna,Michael Jackson and Tina Turner )
    -Seventh Best Voice ever ( MTV,Blender Magazine,…)
    -Celine Dion,is also a entrepreneur ( Fragrances,stores,etc..) ,a performer ( A New Day Shows at Caesar Palace,Las Vegas),etc…

    WHITNEY HOUSTON BIOGRAPHY & MAIN ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS
    NAME : Whitney Elysabeth Houston
    HEIGHT : 5 ft 10 in (178 cm)
    WEIGHT : 52- 58 kg
    OCCUPATION : Singer,Songwriter,Model,Actress,Record-Producer
    GENRES : Pop,R&B,Dance,Ballads,Gospel,Soul
    ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS

    -Fourth World Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times
    -Most American Music Awards by a Female Artist ( 22 )
    -World’s biggest Selling soundtrack of All times ( The Bodyguard )
    -Best Selling Single Of all Times by a Female Artist ( I will Always Love You )
    -Best Selling Gospel album Of all Times ( The Preacher’s wife )
    -Whitney’s version of The Star Spangled Banner is the only Version to be certified platinum and to be turned at a pop hit in the US hot 100
    -Second Female Artist with most # 1 Hits Worldwide
    -Second Best Female Voice ever,Third Best Voice Overall ( MTV,Blender Magazine,etc…)
    -Best selling album by a foreign Female Artist in Brazil ( The Bodyguard )
    -Whitney ( I will Always Love You ) and Mariah Carey ( We Belong Together )are the only female artists to have a song spend fourteen weeks at # 1 on the Billboard Hot 100.
    -Second Female Artist ( with Madonna ) with the most # 1 hits on the Billboard Hot 100 ( 12 )
    -Second most influential Artist
    -First Female Artist to have two diamond albums ( Whitney Houston & The Bodyguard )
    -I Will Always Love You is the most successful song by a Female artist since music history till the end of the 1990 decade.
    -Pop Vocal Icon

    As everybody know,Whitney had a career of actress in the 1990’s ( The Bodyguard,Waiting To Exhale,The Preacher’s Wife,etc…).

    MADONNA BIOGRAPHY ,MAIN ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS

    NAME : (Madonna) Louise Veronica Ciccone
    NICKNAME : Queen Of Pop
    Birth date : 1958
    HEIGHT : 5 ft 6 in ( 168 cm)
    WEIGHT : 52- 58 kg
    OCCUPATION : Singer,Song-writer,Actress,Dancer,Writer,Record-producer,Entrepreneur
    GENRES :Pop,Dance,R&B,Electro,Disco
    RECORDS & ACHIEVEMENTS :

    -Best Selling Recording Female Artist Of All Times ( Since 2006 )
    -Best selling Female Artist in Europe
    -Best-Selling Greatest hits album by a Female artist
    -Most # 1 hits songs in the World by a Female artist
    -Best selling Album in United Kingdom
    -Highest Grossing selling Tour s
    -One album ranked in the Top 10 Best Selling Albums by Female Artists
    -Richest female Singer Of All Times
    -Most top 10 hits in the Billboard hot 100 singles
    -Second Female Artist ( with Whitney Houston ) with most number one hits in US ( 12 )
    -Song reaching # 1 in Chart of most countries Worldwide ( Hung Up,45 different countries )
    – Most Sexy Artist of all times
    -Most Popular Female Artist Of All Times
    -Third Most Influential Artist of the World
    -Sex-symbol & Pop Icon
    Besides of musical entertainment,Madonna has experiences as such actress ( Evita,The next Best Thing ,A League of their Own,etc…),Book writer,entrepreneur .
    MARIAH CAREY BIOGRAPHY & MAIN ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS
    NAME : Mariah Angela Carey
    NICKNAME : Queen Of R&B , The Voice.
    Birth date : 1970
    HEIGHT : 5 ft 9 in ( 175 cm)
    WEIGHT : 58- 70 kg
    OCCUPATION : Singer,Songwriter,Model,Actress ,Record-producer,Composer,Entrepreneur.
    GENRES : Pop,R&B ,Dance,Rap,Ballads,Gospel, Jazz, Soul,Techno, House
    ACHIEVEMENTS & RECORDS :
    -First World Best Selling Female Recording Artist Of All Times ( 2000-2003 )
    -Actual Second World Best Selling Female Artist Of All Times
    – World Best-Selling Artist Overall Of the 1990 Decade ( Only Female Artist With this Title )
    -Best-Selling Western Artist In Asia
    -World Best Selling Christmas Album Of All Times By a Female Artist
    – World Best-Selling Christmas Single Of All Times By a Female Artist
    -Two Singles ranked in the top 10 Best selling Singles by Female Artists
    -Best Selling Western Album in Japan ( # 1 ‘s)
    -Best Selling Western Album in China
    -Two Albums ranked in the top 10 Best-Selling Albums Of All Times by Female Artists
    -Most Platinum Singles by a Female Artist in History
    -Only Artist Ever to have first 5 Singles go to # 1 in Billboard Hot 100
    -Only Female Artist to have 10 albums certified 4 x platinum or better
    -Third Richest Female Singer Of All Times
    -Mariah Carey give 90 % of her musical materiel (Composing,Writing,Producing,Arranging) More than any other Female Artist.
    -Most World Music Awards than any Artist Overall( 17 )
    -Most # 1 hits wrote or co-wrote by a Female Composer ( 17 ) Carole King is ranked second to Mariah -with 9 songs reached # 1
    -Third Songwriter Overall with most # 1 Songs penned (17 Songs) Behind Paul McCartney and John Lennon.
    -Most # 1 hits in US single Chart ( 18 )
    – Third Female Artist with most # 1 Hits Worldwide
    -Second Female Artist with most top 10 hits in US Hot 100 ( 27 )
    -Most weeks at # 1 in US Hot 100 ( 79
    – Longest time at the # 1 position (consecutive weeks) with “One Sweet Day” for 16 Weeks.
    -Billboard’s Most successful Song ever by a Female Artist ( We Belong Together ).
    – Longest-running # 1 hit in Brazilian History ( I Want To Know What Love Is ,27 weeks
    – Best Voice ever overall (MTV,Blender Magazine,etc…)

    -Most extended Female voice ever ( 5 octaves range).
    -First international soundtrack ever to achieve number-one status in Japan ( Glitter)
    -Revolution of world Pop music by her Remix of Fantasy .Mariah is the First Pop singer ever who collaborates with rappers and Hip Hop artists.Since this Remix,Every Pop artists work with hip hop artists now.
    -Pop Vocal Icon worldwide
    -Second most Sexy Female Singer ( Among the Female Artists with more than 100 million records sold worldwide ).
    – # 1 Musical Influence for 80 % artists of Asia,America,Europe,Oceania and Latin America
    -One of most Popular International Singer s Worldwide .
    MARIAH CAREY is an accomplished artist.She’s not border in just music.She has experiences as such actress ( in the films : Glitter, Tennessee, Precious, Wisegirls, etc…),model ( fashion shows for VERSACE, PINKO,promotions for PINKO and for her own fragrances,launching of a fashion style,etc…) ,business ( Fragrances ),etc…She won the Legs Of goddess Gillette Venus Award for the most beautiful legs in 2006.

  403. MOFF says:

    FOR YOU MARIAH ROSE!!!!

    Your star isn’t the best selling female artist!!

    Did you calculate her sales?
    You say 100 ,000,000 albums???

    OK, but how many has Mariah, Celine and Madonna sold???

    DO YOU KNOW THAT?

    It’s a shame that someone put untrue things to this debate.

  404. FRANCOIS says:

    ALEXIS : There is one week since we await your proof about the 380 million of albums sold by Madonna, but you cannot give it.That prove clearly that Alexis is a SUBJECTIVE person and a LIAR. Now, everyone know that and nobody will never believe in anything you’ll claim,cause you destroy your own credibility yourself at this entry by your lies. Take advantage of your beautiful days instead of come here and say many lies to defend Madonna and run down Mariah Carey. Let the few people who lose their beautiful days on searching arguments and proofs ,argue and discuss in this debate.Cause they know what they say and they can go to the end for proving their asserts.You’re just a coward and hypocritical person.You claimed that you also like Mariah but now,everyone know that you lied.In all entries talking about Mariah, you always just put down her fulfillment and never claim something positive about her.Why you don’t have balls to admit that you hate her? You are one of some Mariah Carey’s haters .Markus got much more balls than many of you cause he always show very clearly that he hate Mariah Carey,he never try to hide it,at least he’s sincere. It’s because some crazy fans like you that Mariah’s fans and Madonna’s fans still always fighting.You preferred to hide the truth instead of recognize the obvious facts.In spite of all wisdom of Meredith who concede that Madonna is the Queen Of Pop and Best-Selling Female Artist Of All Times,you still fight with your LIES about the 380 million of albums.That’s a shame for you,most of us knew that you lied since the debut but besides, you just give the proof that you did .You were trapped and you got any way out,so you imagined this emergency exit ( saying that you are too lazy & bla bla bla…. ).Therefore,It’s just till now that you remark you spend your time on idiots things,just not before.It’s a disgrace ,you show that you are less than nothing Alexis,you sucks. I have pity on you.

    Moreover,I must precise that Alexis,Christopher and “Someone” are the same persons.

  405. TRISH says:

    SALES OF THE SINGLES WORLDWIDE
    1. Hey Jude Beatles 26
    2. Candle In The Wind Elton John 25
    3. I Will always love you Whitney Houston 22
    4. ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS YOU MARIAH CAREY 20
    5. I Gotta Feeling Black Eyed Peas 17
    6. WE BELONG TOGETHER MARIAH CAREY 17
    Macarena Los Del Rio 17
    Believe Cher 16
    7.
    Hip’s don’t lie Shakira 16
    My Heart will go on Celine Dion 16
    8. WITHOUT YOU MARIAH CAREY 15
    Apologize One Republic 14
    Irreplaceable Beyonce 12
    9. HERO 12
    Wherever Wherever Shakira 12
    ONE SWEET DAY MARIAH CAREY 11
    Don’t Punk With My Heart Black Eyed Peas11
    Mack The Knife Bobby Darin 11
    Without Me Eminem 11
    Hey Ya Outcast 10
    Jumpin’ Jack Flash 10
    Let It Be Beatles 10
    Sexy Back Justin Timberlake 10
    10. WHEN YOU BELIEVE Whitney Houston and MARIAH CAREY 10
    This Love Maroon 5 10
    Umbrella Rihanna 10
    Can’t Get You out of My Head Kylie Minogue 9
    Hello Goodbye Beatles 9
    Honky Tonk Women Rolling Stones 9
    Jailhouse Rock Elvis Presley 9
    Lady Marmalade Christina Aguilera 9
    Oops I did it again Britney Spears 9
    FANTASY MARIAH CAREY 9
    Boom Boom Pow Black Eyed Peas 8
    Crazy in Love Beyonce 8
    Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car Billy Ocean 8
    I’m A Believer Monkees 8
    11. DREAMLOVER MARIAH CAREY 8
    Poker Face Lady Gaga 8
    Somethin’ Stupid Frank Sinatra 8
    Something Beatles 8
    That’s The Way It is Celine Dion 8
    The sweet escape Gwen Stefani 8
    Theme From ‘A Summer Placeb Percy Faith & His Orchestra 8
    Tik Tok Kesha 8
    Tom Dooley Kingston Trio 8
    Venus Shocking Blue 8
    Wanna Dance With Somebody Whitney Houston 8
    Yeah Usher 8
    A Whiter Shade Of Pale Procol Harum 7
    12. I’LL BE THERE MARIAH CAREY 7
    Baby One More Time Britney Spears 7
    Bring Me To Life Evanescence 7
    Faith George Michael 7
    Genie In A Bottle Christina Aguilera 7
    Get Back Beatles 7
    I Kissed A Girl Katy Perry 7
    Lady Madonna Beatles 7
    Love don’t Cost A Thing Jennifer Lopez 7
    Nothing Compares 2 U Sinead O’Connor 7
    VISION OF LOVE MARIAH CAREY 7
    Survivor Destiny’s Child 7
    (Now And Then There’s) A Fool Such As I Elvis Presley 6
    All You Need is Love Beatles 6
    Bad Michael Jackson 6
    Bad Romance Lady Gaga 6
    Beautiful Christina Aguilera 6
    Cathy’s Clown Everly Brothers 6
    Dirty Diana Michael Jackson 6
    I Just Can’t Stop Loving U Michael Jackson 6
    I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) Aretha Franklin & George Michael 6
    If I were A Boy Beyonce 6
    It’s All In The Game Tommy Edwards 6
    One More Try George Michael 6
    Shape Of My Heart Backstreet Boys 6
    MY ALL MARIAH CAREY 6
    Tequila The Champs 6
    The Ballad Of John and Yoko Beatles 6
    The Letter Box Tops 6
    Walk Like An Egyptian Bangles 6
    HONEY MARIAH CAREY 6
    White Flag Dido 6
    All I Have To Do Is Dream Everly Brothers 5
    Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Green Day 5
    Candy Shop 50 Cent 5
    Feel Robbie Williams 5
    It’s My Life Bon Jovi 5
    EMOTIONS MARIAH CAREY 5
    Lonely Boy Paul Anka 5
    Massachusetts Bee Gees 5
    Penny Lane Beatles 5
    Right Round Flo Rida 5
    Toxic Britney Spears 5
    LOVE TAKES TIMES MARIAH CAREY 4
    HUNG UP MADONNA 4

  406. MOFF says:

    Trish, where did you get this information?

    Tell us your source please!

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