When Critics Meet Pop

Sasha Frere-Jones of Slate online is wondering why are some writers so afraid of or other pop stars. She says in regards to those who criticize the *NSYNC star for not being as involved in the songwriting process: “Do we know exactly what Thom Yorke contributes to Radiohead songs, other than singing? Do we know what Jeff Tweedy does, exactly, in Wilco? When Pink Floyd takes a year to make a record, is that ‘spontaneous’? Wasn’t Bob Fosse hyperchoreographed? It feels a bit tortured to avoid the most obvious explanation for Madonna and Justin’s records: that Madonna’s and Justin have a lot to do with their music, and how they make it up and get it done is no more important than it is for any other artists with their names on the marquee.” Read more.

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9 thoughts on “When Critics Meet Pop

  1. babet says:

    Justin’s an EXCELLENT songwriter and singer and producer and dancer…… he’s my multi-talented-multi-millionaire man.

  2. jimmypee says:

    yes we do know what those artists contribute to the songs because they are the only ones with legal credit for them and they don’t need to lie. unlike Justin who is listed alongside a hundred other people and is desperate for credibility.

  3. weebongo says:

    On all of Madonna’s newer stuff from Ray of Light to American Life she has writing credits, mostly top writing credits. Madonna is also listed as a producer for all her tracks. I don’t think Justin is listed as a producer for any of his songs. That’s thanks to the Neptunes. Without them Justin would be nothing and in the same position as Nick Carter.

  4. Diablo27 says:

    Justin is very talented. Look at the people he’s been compared too. I think he can very easily be around in 10 years from now. He’s already an icon and he can very easily be a legend in the future. Hes a phenomenal song writer. Every solo single and 3 singles of ‘Celebrity’ were all written by him. He wrote his entire album and wrote the majority of each song. He’s got a great voice, plays many instruments, and is an incredible dancer. How much more talent do you want on a musician. Only someone who is close-minded wouldn’t realize just how talented he was. They don’t realize it because they put the hate be4 the talent. I have 1 question for the people how don’t like Justin. If Justin wasn’t in Nsync, and he was a brand new artist new to the scene. Would you still look at him the same way and put his music down?

    There are a lot of people out there that deny his talent. And it gets annoying. Justin sings, dances, beatboxs, plays instruments, writes songs, produces songs, does vocal arrangments, and a lot more. And all of that comes naturally to him. And also the people he worked with (Neptunes, Timbaland, Janet, etc) for them to work with Justin, they obviously think he’s talented.

  5. weebongo says:

    The reason Justin is being compared to Michael is because he’s copying everything about him to his clothing to singing style to dance moves. It’s so obvious that it’s pathetic. Justin should really do his own thing and not try so hard to ride trends and imitate 80’s pop stars. Michael Jackson created trends in the 80’s and that’s a true testament to a real Pop Icon.

  6. jujusdevilchild says:

    This article is actually quite silly, as Justin wrote every song on his album, the only other person credited after him was the producer. So no, there is no endless line of people added on, it’s just him & then the producer adds some bits. He is an amazing song writer & from his production on the last Nsync album, he is good at that as well. Now this Micheal Jackson ish, is a pile of Bull*****. I’ve been a Micheal fan since I was two & remain a huge fan and am a huge fan of Justin also. If you actually take the time out to look & listen to both, you will see Justin is not trying to copy him. Their songs, moves & look are completely different. The only similarity is the falsetto, which Micheal did not create. The only artist out there I see actually imitating Mike is Usher, with the moves & covering his songs in concert etc… Even Mike himself said Justin is one of the best things to happen to the music industry. So stop making ridiculous judgements solely on the fact that he was wearing a similar hat at the VMA’s. Mike, although he is great is by NO means original, where do you think he got his moves from? Do James Brown & Fred Astair ring a bell? Or how about the look, credit it to Frank Sinatra.

    I wrote a mistake in my post. The article itself is good, but the people who say Justin doesn’t write need to research before speaking.

  7. AiRMERiCAxAO says:

    Definitely not saying Aaron has a perfect voice here, but I’ve heard clips from his first few shows and more recent ones and there are definitely a difference. It has to do with stress and stuff that’s going on with his life, which is a lot obviously, and this woman/man obviously didn’t know. Keep up the great work,Aaron.

  8. BlackQueen says:

    It doesn’t matter what other people have to say about Justin’s talent at all. These people, who constantly discredit his abilities, always will discredit him. Their minds are set. And if its one thing I have learned in my 20 years, is that the human mind and way of thought, is something that is incredibly impossible to educate. By educate I mean produce evidence and facts that support your own thoughts. This is because it’s your own thoughts, not theirs. Only opened minded people except change and the possibility that things can be different. If rock music, is the only music that someone thinks is “true” music, then unless they are “open minded” they discredit any other genre. Hip Hop did change the way music was being made. Like it said in the article. To someone who is used to making music with a guitar, bass and drums, this new and ‘different’ way of making music may have confused them, especially if that particular genre sells more than yours. And in typical human fashion, jealousy sets in. The change that is happening doesn’t favor you, so you try to discredit it so you don’t seem all that unimportant, and you’re getting the attention again. I remember the days when kids in school had those “RAP is CRAP” shirts on. Now ironically, I see some of them now, and their wearing NY hats tipped to the side, baggy Fubu jeans and throw back jerseys. Except change, and the idea that, as people grow, they evolve, in an attempt to figure out who they are, and who they want to be. Just imagine if we all still acted and thought the same way we did when we were five. Although I sometimes think most of you who post, do. (I won’t name names, that’s not my style.) PEACE

  9. tena says:

    Who cares how long it takes Pink Floyd to write an album? They have incredible talent and creativity, and in a league by themselves. and so is Radiohead, which is a group and it isn’t the same if the lead singer doesn’t write the music all by himself. And its true that Justin has a lot of people on his credits. And their were some highly renowned acts that didn’t write their own music, Elvis Presley.

    You made a lot of interesting stuff including rap. Now, I for one am not a rap fan, nothing to do with jealousy just a preference. I like some of it. but older stuff. You are right it is a different way of putting sounds together to make music, and some involves samples which of course include instruments. And singers sometimes get criticized for not playing an insturment, which is absurd, because they can use their voice as an instrument, and they can put things into the singing, like emotions that make it real. I actually do like artists that write their own stuff, but, if they don’t, just don’t pretend you are something you are not. and have other qualities to make up for it. And as far as Madonna, she wrote stuff like Lucky star and a few others. And the man who is one if not the most celebrated music icon, has almost no songwriting credits. and some would argue that he simply ripped off black artists, well that’s a whole other story in itself, the engima of Elvis Presley.

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